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[–]TheEndsOfInvention 10 points11 points ago

TIL I should move to Iceland.

[–]RothKyle 5 points6 points ago

The U.S is a sad, sad country, indeed.

[–]dragos240 1 point2 points ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

[–]hedgeworth 1 point2 points ago

TIL I should not move to Turkey.

[–]schvince 6 points7 points ago

if we seperate Bavaria from Germany, we probably would be over 80%

[–]Meeeehhh 0 points1 point ago

Yeah! I was so disappointed by how low we were, now i'm relieved.

[–]veryoldfart 4 points5 points ago

If you erase the black line that was drawn to fool the eye, there is only a slight correlation between between the two, with Turkey and the USA being out liers.

[–]HansAnders 0 points1 point ago

Besides that, the equation that was given for the black line can't possibly be correct. A linear equation resulting in a curved line? Not sure how that could happen.

[–]ashpanash 2 points3 points ago

[–]veryoldfart 0 points1 point ago

y goes like 1/x, not x. Looks like the equation was tuned to go through the Bosphorus then reconnect Czechoslovakia.

[–]ZellnuuEon 1 point2 points ago

The difference between 45% and 80% is still a lot but I agree that Turkey should not be included in the line of best fit. There still is correlation between wealth and belief in evolution but not as much as this graph makes it out to be.

[–]VerneAsimov 0 points1 point ago

I think it's closer to a +.5 or +.4 correlation.

[–]litteringAnd____ 7 points8 points ago

Where does Canada fit in?

[–]Phallindrome 2 points3 points ago

61% of Canadians believe in evolution, up 2% from 4 years ago.

Back in 2008, when the Canadian dollar was 0.9USD, Canadians made 92% of American income or $43,100USD to American $46,800USD. That's not recent enough for my taste, so I went crazy and divided 1.736 trillion (Canada's GDP in 2011, USD) by 34,482,779, our population in 2011, for a figure of $50,500USD. In 2011, according to the World Bank, US per-capita GDP was still only 48,442USD.

So, on the graph we would be a hair below and a bar and a half to the right of Switzerland.

[–]Kaylen 2 points3 points ago

I came here to ask the same question, but we have to remember. If this was american made, we always gt clumped in with the states, regardless, because we are "america junior'.

Or at least that's what I've been told. Hope I'm wrong.

On a side note though, I'm willing to wager we're nowhere near the 'USA' dot on the graph.

[–]litteringAnd____ 0 points1 point ago

I hope not. But i live in a very wealthy area in alberta and holy man the church's we have dwarf any other church i've seen even in Edmonton. Mormons are pretty common here suprisinly.

[–]Otzlowe 0 points1 point ago

Honestly, the "America Junior" or "America's Hat" thing is just a joke. Some people probably believe it, but anyone going out to make a chart like this probably doesn't foster the concept that Canada is worthless because America.

[–]magicmagininja 3 points4 points ago

only 39% of USers believe evolution? really

[–]keoShine 5 points6 points ago

From last I heard, yes. It's somewhere around 60% believe that a deity created the human race as is. Considering 70% of the population is Christian, I'd say that's a fair estimate. I know not all Christians deny evolution, but Christianity and Disbelief in Evolution aren't mutually inclusive, so there are people of other faiths that can add to the 60% without contributing to the 70%.

I may've heard wrong, though, so don't trust me completely.

[–]Blazeron 0 points1 point ago

I have lived in florida my entire life (17 years granted) and have never once met a creationist, what am i doing wrong? well over half my friends are atheist even. The rest seem to be fading every day

[–]keoShine 0 points1 point ago

I don't know what the distribution is, so I wouldn't be able to say what you're doing "wrong". I'd say you're not doing anything "wrong", though. I wouldn't want to be surrounded by creationists.

[–]Prezombie 5 points6 points ago

Turkey is practically Middle easten demographically, and the USA is widely diverse in education standards re evolution. Remove Muslim governed Turkey, refit the best fit line, and then place each US state as a seperate body, and the states would blend right into the crowd.

[–]Dani212M 3 points4 points ago

I know it's hard to try and group the entire U.S. together, but I'm sure other countries have different sections just as diverse, so the fact that it is an average is fine. Just my two cents.

[–]ZioTron 2 points3 points ago

I'm not sure to fully get the meaning of the chart, if anybody can enlight me with a detailed description that would be great.

However, I can say that for what I understand, USA has a higher percertage of people believing in creationism than other countries have, even in the wealthy (therefore supposely more educated) part of the population.

Actuallly USA situation appears strange to a foreigner. I live in a fully catholic country, but evolution is not on discussion...

The pope himself support evolution... o.O"

I always I admired the church way to get around things anyway...

you see their most powerful answer is: "God talks to men only in terms that they can understand, that's the why science can differ from God's word"

In this way they can face every science discovery..

But I'm talking too much now, you? what do you have to say?

TL:DR As a foreigner, USA population surprise me for their strong denial of science efforts of understanding the world...

[–]SomeGamerKid 0 points1 point ago

Maybe if we were smaller, stupid people would be closer to smart people, and therefore would be less stupid.

[–]david71119 0 points1 point ago

The chart is trying to say that the more the contries belive less in science are generally more poor. I also don't know why the US is like this...

[–]Wirenutt 0 points1 point ago

Good grief, I live in the US in upstate NY, and right now I want to move to the UK. I am ashamed of the anti-intellectualism of my country.

Let people believe in whatever god they want, but treat it like your dick; be proud of it, use it whenever it makes you feel good, but don't be waving it around in public, and for fuck's sake, don't force it on people who don't want it.

[–]ellipsisca -1 points0 points ago

Just drive north for a few miles and you will get the same thing without having to fly all the way across an ocean.

[–]Wirenutt -1 points0 points ago

I had a GF from England who had no inhibitions, just how I imagine most European women are. If Canadian women are like that, I'll be in Toronto tomorrow... :-)

[–]ellipsisca 0 points1 point ago

Head toward Quebec if you want crazy uninhibited women.. there be some crazy ass bitches in Montreal...

[–]Slattz 1 point2 points ago

Wouldn't it be better to measure quality of life rather than GDP per Capita?

From talking to several people who have lived in the US and Europe I understand that would be a more equitable measurement.

[–]Crazeeman 1 point2 points ago

as usual, Canada is skipped over. Thanks.

[–]xdzgor 1 point2 points ago

What do you mean? USA is to the lower right.

[–]SomeGamerKid 0 points1 point ago

USA ≠ Canada.

[–]samaey 0 points1 point ago

I would have thought that Belgium would be well in the 90%, like I would have expected for all the other European nations. Well I guess it's because of all the old people here.

[–]TheMortalOne 0 points1 point ago

also lots of muslim immigrants

[–]Altiondsols 1 point2 points ago

Of all the things I have learned from r/atheism, the one that sticks the most is that Norway is a wonderful place to be.

[–]5thKeetle 0 points1 point ago

Actually the statistics are mostly wrong, because most Lithuanians actually do believe in evoliution, I don't know from what source this was made from.

[–]briancb 1 point2 points ago

I thought Norway would be much higher in terms of the amount of people who believe in evolution (at least > 80% of the population would be my initial guess). Hmmm. Research must be done into this....

[–]Armen138 1 point2 points ago

not sure I understand the phrase "belief in Evolution". Do you believe 2 and 2 make 4?

[–]I_throw_pinecones 0 points1 point ago

You know you can't compare those two things.

[–]I_throw_pinecones 0 points1 point ago

I actually don't believe that data is valid. Only 2/3 of my homecounty ( Germany ) believe in evolution? Nu-uh mister.

[–]AlwaysGoingHome 0 points1 point ago

I've seen these numbers before, maybe it was on Wikipedia? Don't know. But this chart is not alone with the numbers about Germany. If I think about the people I know, it's hard to believe. But you have to take into account the masses of religious old people you never interact with. Maybe they're the 1/3. And when I think about, I've never really asked anybody directly, if they believe in evolution. I just assume it. Maybe there are more of those people among us - scary!

[–]I_throw_pinecones 0 points1 point ago

Well, you got a point there. Scary indeed.

[–]ReposterBot 0 points1 point ago

I wouldn't write your thesis on that that fit.

[–]SomeGamerKid 1 point2 points ago

ONLY 40 PERCENT?!?! Hey Canada, is there any room for me?

[–]Aratix 0 points1 point ago

Ho..lee...shit. 60% of us Americans don't believe in evolution? I knew it was bad but, this bad?

[–]david71119 0 points1 point ago

I don't think this graph get's the main message across... I think everyone knows this, but as 'cool' as it would be for us atheists to use this as an argument, it's not very well like this, see it this way:

If country is rich and good life quality -> means good education

If country is rich/poor and has bad life quality -> means bad education

&

When education is bad -> there are more religious people

That's why the countries that are poor/bad quality of life match with those that have a bad education, and because they have bad education they are more religious. Simple as that.

[–]magnetar5135 0 points1 point ago

Once again, Norway kicks ass. If only they knew how jealous I am of them.

[–]Conkernog 0 points1 point ago

I'm very very suspect about these figures. Ireland seems to be only hovering a bit above 60% - The first time I found out that there were evolution deniers was when I started redditing, never heard anyone contest it before.

[–]clopensets 0 points1 point ago

but... that means Norway is statistically more creationist than its worth!

[–]joeshmoe16 1 point2 points ago

The U.S doesn't believe in staying on the graph.

[–]Phlexonance 0 points1 point ago

I don't like how the european countries are split up (as it should be) but the USA isn't split up by states

[–]audioeric 0 points1 point ago

You forgot Czechoslovakia while you were apologizing for America! Liberal scum!

[–]Eksos 0 points1 point ago

why the hell is Norway so low? Why the hell are so many of the others so low??

[–]Nokia_Bricks 0 points1 point ago

I may be nitpicking, but "understanding" would be a better word than "belief".

[–]Lord69 0 points1 point ago

WHERE IS CANADA?

[–]Wauughlord 0 points1 point ago

Just for those who wanted to know, myself included, Australia sits at 71% who agree with evolution (and think that it's still occuring) as of 2010, and our GDP per capita (PPP adjusted) is $40,800; according to the same website.

This puts us (Australia) pretty much at the tail of the 'g' in "United Kingdom", however, this is using data four years younger than the rest of the data - and things can change a lot in that amount of time.

[–]potsmoker420 0 points1 point ago

stop using "belief in evolution"

[–]Riverboater1 -2 points-1 points ago

THE USA IS NOT THE AMERICAS

[–]ZioTron 0 points1 point ago

JAPAN IS NOT THE (WHOLE) EASTERN ASIA

[–]ZioTron 2 points3 points ago

I DON' KNOW WHAT WE ARE YELLING ABOUT

[–]SomeGamerKid 0 points1 point ago

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