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[–]dontlikereddit 2 points3 points ago

/replaceable

[–]DesertPunked 1 point2 points ago

I don't even care about replacing batteries, rather actually just not having to use a charger what so ever.

When my battery runs low, I switch it out with another battery and put the current empty battery to charge.

[–]deyv -1 points0 points ago

How many times have you actually replaced a batter on your phone?

I'm not asking this to be a jerk, I'm just genuinely curious because I've never actually had to personally.

[–]cardstocks 1 point2 points ago

not so much that i can replace it, more so that i can take it out to fix whatever issue might present itself.

a complete reboot can fix a lot of problems with electronics.

[–]Taodeist 0 points1 point ago

I have a SII and after a long year of lots of use, it needs a new one.

Other than that, this thing is amazing.

[–]greenlion22 1 point2 points ago

I like to purchase another battery to keep a fully charged extra on hand if needed. They're pretty cheap on Amazon or Ebay.

[–]Weibull 45 points46 points ago

Wow, iphone 5 only has 1gb of RAM?

That is pretty bad as far as competition goes.

[–]3019605275 12 points13 points ago

i thought apple never revealed the actual memory size and we usually wait for ifixit's teardown for the specifics

[–]InstantHandSanitizer 2 points3 points ago

Back when I had an iPhone I remember having an app from the app store that could, on my non-jailbroken phone, tell me basic system info like total RAM, used RAM, running processes, system log information, and other such stuff. It was 'read only' since the phone wasn't jailbroken, but it did provide what seemed like accurate information. I'm sorry I can't remember what it's called, but they may be using that app or an app like it.

EDIT: I'm also a moron.

[–]3019605275 5 points6 points ago

the iphone 5 isn't even out yet, how would they use the app!??!!?

[–]fuckicantfindauserna 2 points3 points ago

good question, but is that your phone number?

[–]vote100binary 1 point2 points ago

Call them maybe?

[–]ScotteeMC -1 points0 points ago

Hey.

[–]dianexis -1 points0 points ago

I just met you.

[–]Rambosherbet 3 points4 points ago

At least you tried.

[–]FakeAnswers -2 points-1 points ago

and this is crazy, so I'll combo break this, try other thread maybe?

[–]Fire_Man[!] 0 points1 point ago

Yes. He lives in god's country. Pee Gee County.

[–]3019605275 0 points1 point ago

that depends, are you a girl?

[–]PCLOAD_LETTER 2 points3 points ago

The ad is from Samsung -they probably made the ram for the iPhone 5

[–]InstantHandSanitizer 0 points1 point ago

Oh, good point. Looks like I need to step away from the reddit for a few hours.

[–]Turbojugend27 5 points6 points ago

What apps/games are using 2 gigs of ram, that don't work on 1 gig of ram?

[–]irwiss 18 points19 points ago

Safari killing pages from cache with just a few tabs open because of memory constraints, rather annoying feature.

[–]w1tt 1 point2 points ago

you have hundreds of free web browsers in the app store, Dolphin Browser is my favorite check it out.

[–]jacobchapman 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, but you can't change the default browser. I love the Chrome app, but any links I click from my email or wherever open in Safari.

[–]Maklite -1 points0 points ago

Jailbreak to the rescue! Browser Changer from the Cydia store will allow you to change the default browser. It supports Chrome and a couple of others.

[–]irwiss 0 points1 point ago

I'm aware there's third party browsers, they have their own problems though.

All the third-party browsers start dropping cache even earlier than safari. Taking chrome for example, opening just 3 moderately sized pages makes the third drop the cache for the first... No fast tab switching :(

Also, third party browsers are slower because they don't have accelerated javascript (apple's sandbox limitation apparently ).

Granted I'm still using Chrome for iOS because it syncs with my desktop nicely, but I'm not too happy with the fact it's balls are cut off - no true chromium engine, slower, and restricted memory and it hurts my experience as a consumer which for me is the more important issue than ios/android squabbles.

Probably going to hop to Android for a year to check it out on my next phone purchase.

[–]wretcheddawn 0 points1 point ago

Chrome is available on the App Store now.

[–]moarthenfeeling 0 points1 point ago

Wait for it!

[–]fuckingnihilists 0 points1 point ago

No one knows how much RAM the iPhone 5 has yet.

Edit: OK, now we know it has 1GB RAM.

[–]PCLOAD_LETTER 21 points22 points ago

Except Samsung -who probably made the ram for the iPhone 5.

[–]fuckingnihilists 1 point2 points ago

The fact that Apple never reveals this information would make me assume Samsung—if they were, in fact, the supplier of the RAM—would be under an NDA regarding the specs.

[–]wretcheddawn 0 points1 point ago

I'm the biggest apple hater I know, but I wouldn't say 1GB is that bad, espeically for an iPhone which doesn't support multitasking. The HTC One X and GS3 both have 1GB, except for the US GS3, which has 2GB, and that's halfway to the theoretical maximum of 4GB for ARM CPUs.

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[–]TrancePhreak 16 points17 points ago

iOS 6 is not like running a full OS, but Android can be thanks to services.

[–]--Heisenberg-- 1 point2 points ago

[–]fluffyponyza -5 points-4 points ago

In what sense? I have a headless virtual server running with a gig of RAM (nginx reverse proxying into Apache for non-static objects) that serves several thousand simultaneous connections at peak across eleven sites. I can't fathom why my phone needs more than a gig of RAM unless the UI and preemptive multitasking is so badly hacked together that it's full of memory bloat. I guess it comes down to heritage: I'd take BSD over Linux any time.

Edit: seriously - this comment pissed you off enough to downvote it? Get a grip. It's a phone. Your opinion is noted but rather unnecessary at this stage. Your religious fervour, however, is an embarrassment to the geek old guard. Our generation would never behave like this over a phone.

[–]Mr_P 5 points6 points ago

I have a headless virtual server running with a gig of RAM

Processing plain text doesn't take very much ram. On the other hand, mobile apps often deal with ram-consuming image data. For example, you'd want your web browser to be able to fit rendered pages in ram so you can switch tabs quickly, and you'd expect a maps application to keep satellite imagery in ram, to provide a smooth interface, free of hiccups due to swapping out to disk.

Besides, even if a single app never takes advantage of all available ram, extra ram will always help with caching disk and other apps. I'd bet that this would also improve battery life, since apps can be resumed from ram, as opposed to being re-read off of disk and doing any initialization over again.

... preemptive multitasking is so badly hacked together that it's full of memory bloat. I guess it comes down to heritage: I'd take BSD over Linux any time.

I don't think "Preemptive multitasking" means what you think it means, and it's a completely orthogonal concept to any discussion of ram usage. Regardless, both BSD and Linux allow for preemptive multitasking (assuming you're talking about scheduling algorithms), and it's the same for any interactive OS. I am curious, however, as to what specifically differs between the BSD and Linux kernels that you believe would reduce ram usage.

[–]fluffyponyza -1 points0 points ago

Processing plain text doesn't take very much ram. On the other hand, mobile apps often deal with ram-consuming image data. For example, you'd want your web browser to be able to fit rendered pages in ram so you can switch tabs quickly, and you'd expect a maps application to keep satellite imagery in ram, to provide a smooth interface, free of hiccups due to swapping out to disk.

Of course - bearing in mind the server in question has GD performing tasks for about 70% of the page requests, and has a very heavily tracked mysql instance. I'm not claiming a general use-case. Additionally, given the speed of the flash disk on mobile devices, swapping to disk becomes less of an issue than on traditional, platter-based drive driven systems.

Besides, even if a single app never takes advantage of all available ram, extra ram will always help with caching disk and other apps. I'd bet that this would also improve battery life, since apps can be resumed from ram, as opposed to being re-read off of disk and doing any initialization over again.

On a system where power consumption is measured in such infinitesimally small amounts, the refresh power consumed by the additional RAM vs. the amount of power drawn by both the CPU and the solid-state disk for occasional disk swaps is a lot closer than the draw of a platter-based disk. I would hazard a guess that a company that openly prides itself on attention to detail (regardless of personal opinion on the product) has measured this and has opted for the best possible scenario based on several years of real-life statistics to draw on. Supposition is great, and I welcome vigorous debate, but I can only imagine that Apple have made a decision based on knowledge and not based on a cost analysis, as their products are rather pricey as it is.

I don't think "Preemptive multitasking" means what you think it means, and it's a completely orthogonal concept to any discussion of ram usage. Regardless, both BSD and Linux allow for preemptive multitasking (assuming you're talking about scheduling algorithms), and it's the same for any interactive OS. I am curious, however, as to what specifically differs between the BSD and Linux kernels that you believe would reduce ram usage.

Sorry - perhaps I was being ambiguous. Both operating systems allow for preemptive multitasking, but I made it quite clear that I was referring to heritage. Android's implementation of background processing when it comes to apps is distinctly different to Apple's approach. Where Android has a rather nice implementation of memory allocation for background apps, it is still essentially allowing a background app to manage itself, and thus it is forced to manage each process (including apps) at the same priority level (essential services aside, of course). On the other hand, Apple forces apps that wish to do background processing to use various SDK hooks to perform a limited set of possible background tasks, thus enabling an easier control of background tasks.

Specifically, I'm guessing that Android is based on a reasonably current Linux kernel, which would mean that its multitasking (and Linux's in general) is based on the Completely Fair Scheduler. On the other hand, the Mach kernel still implements a Multilevel Feedback Queue, albeit with some tweaks (such as a dedicated idle queue). I'm given to understand (and I claim no particular specialist understanding of scheduling) that in the limited frame of reference when discussing Android and iOS, that an MFQ manner of scheduling lends itself quite nicely to the iOS background apps implementation, and due to the tighter control less RAM is required, as the specific SDK hook an application is using will dictate when that app's active memory stack+heap needs to be rotated back into RAM.

If I may posit an example: let's say I write an application that is an alarm, and will sound a warning at 6am tomorrow. On iOS I hook into an SDK that tells the OS that I need to do something at 6am tomorrow. Until then, I am quite literally cycled out of memory, freeing the RAM up for other tasks. At 6am, I am rotated back into memory and I resume processing. On Android, on the other hand, I would run in the background, polling the time every few seconds or whenever to see if it was time yet for me to take the necessary action. The stub I maintain in memory may be small, but overall it adds up to a greater memory requirement for similar tasks. This is quite possibly an overly simplistic example, and no doubt I've made errors in what I've written, but I do stand by what I originally said; the way the OS handles things like task scheduling will most assuredly affect RAM utilisation and tasks queues in memory.

And just to clarify - this isn't an "iOS good, Android bad" debate - my example of choosing BSD over Linux is likely down to personal preference at this stage. That having been said: I do think that if iOS can run blazingly fast on a high resolution display with a gig of RAM, and Jelly Bean can't, then surely the fault has to lie in the underlying OS?

[–]utnow 1 point2 points ago

The ram issue in the phone is largely not an issue. It's always nice to have more but ios handles it expertly.

[–]fluffyponyza -1 points0 points ago

Yeah I do tend to agree with you - it's always nice to have more, but as long as iOS can run at pace without needing more than I suppose it's an unnecessary hardware cost:)

[–]Zuxicovp -4 points-3 points ago

But then, you need to consider the system optimization that occurs for iOS. It's like how consoles have only 512mb of ram total (PS3 & XBox) and are able to play the latest games with that, (Even with bad graphics) when they have weaker hardware than newer smartphones

[–]rauls4 70 points71 points ago

That's the difference right there: iOS 6 vs. Android

The rest is meaningless.

[–]IriquoisP 45 points46 points ago

Yeah, it really just named a bunch of interface features on android and none of iOS 6's

[–]rattoucher 93 points94 points ago

its almost like they are biased as to which product is better.

[–]IriquoisP 13 points14 points ago

My god... what is this shit.

[–]eschatonic 3 points4 points ago

A bunch of those are TouchWiz features, not vanilla Android ones.

[–]RomeFlower 7 points8 points ago

So what does iOS 6 do that android does not?

[–]rauls4 -1 points0 points ago

It's not what it does. It's how well it does it. You might not agree but after using an android device for over a month I was really glad to come back to iOS.

[–]TheIslander829 -1 points0 points ago

Apps. It's the apps, bro.

[–]RomeFlower 2 points3 points ago

there are many apps on android also.

[–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point ago

I know, but the ecosystem on iOS is as good as it gets. Also, the updating system Apple has is amazing. iOS 6 is set to be released next week, and even people that have a 3GS (a 2009 device) are still gonna get the update for free and on the same day as everybody else.

When the Galaxy S3 came out, it didn't even have the latest Android software.

Apple works on a unified system, while Android is disorganised as fuck.

[–]RomeFlower -1 points0 points ago

i will wait for the iPhone 5s.

[–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point ago

I have a 4S. I'm waiting too. This phone is still crazy fast. I can do without an extra row of icons and 4G. There's no 4G in my area anyway, so...

[–]RomeFlower 0 points1 point ago

Im jailboken on my iPhone 4 , my mom has 4s and its not noticeably faster, the camera also.

I think if I had a 3Gs or some other brand of phone and I was not happy then I would consider the iPhone 5. As it is iPhone 5 is too little difference for me to justify.

[–]--Heisenberg-- 1 point2 points ago

Wait what?

What does system updates have to do with apps?

When the Galaxy S3 came out, it didn't even have the latest Android software.

Yes it did.

[–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point ago

It didn't have Jelly Bean, and it didn't get it for a couple of months after it was released... vs. Apple giving you the updates for your phone immediately and all the phones all the way back to 2009.

What does system updates have to do with apps?

I was just listing shit... I dunno man, it's 3 am, I just got home and I'm drunk..

[–]--Heisenberg-- 0 points1 point ago

It had 4.0, which was the latest Major version. I agree that Android's updating needs to be looked at, because it's ridiculous that it goes Android > Manufacturer > Provider > Customer in terms of release, but hopefully they'll resolve that, as it's a major downside of Android.

However, there are 600 devices that use Android, around a dozen devices (not counting any different specs), for iOS (not sure on the exact amount, but it's small). It's always going to be easier. It's the same tired argument people make about Macs vs Windows PCs. Macs only have a very limited number of configurations, Windows has thousands, and they make Windows to be far more backwards-compatible than Apple does, even with their limited configs.

Lastly, let's not forget the whole update process for Apple isn't exactly smooth either. When the retina display for iPad came in, it made lots of websites look shit, so they have to be configured explicitly for those devices, and everytime they change resolution, it fucks up the layout of all the apps, because they can only be written for fixed sizes, whereas Google have to make sure different resolutions can be catered for.

I'll quit now, as I'm starting to sound like an Android fanboy, when I'm only anti-Apple lol.

[–]weakvitalsigns 13 points14 points ago

As someone who really doesn't like Apple all that much and generally avoids all of their products... I made the switch from Android to iOS and was blown away. I'm sure I can't be the only one, but there software is absolutely flawless.

[–]fatal-error 15 points16 points ago

there software is absolutely flawless.

iTunes

Need I say more?

[–]jacobchapman 0 points1 point ago

Well, there is more to say.

For starters, I used iTunes on Windows for a couple of years and ran into bugs upon bugs. It would crash often, and messed up during syncs all the time.

I've been using iTunes on my MacBook since 2009, and have experienced way better performance. Not saying it's perfect, but it's definitely developed better for OS X.

[–]fatal-error 1 point2 points ago

Its sad they resort to this to try and get people to move to Mac.

Microsoft write really decent software for Mac, they even follow UI guidelines, Apple couldn't give a shit about Windows or the quality of their Windows software.

[–]dlsspy 1 point2 points ago

Microsoft write really decent software for Mac

My experience has been mostly around the time I was forced to use the Outlook thing they had for the mac. Basic key sequences didn't work, much less "ui guidelines."

Everybody gets everything wrong.

[–]fatal-error 0 points1 point ago

I've been using their latest version of office for mac which is pretty good.

[–]tobsn -1 points0 points ago

but nobody uses iTunes...

[–]weakvitalsigns -1 points0 points ago

I don't use iTunes for anything more than podcasts, which I download directly to the phone and which work perfectly. Spotify is where it is at, unlimited HQ music for $10/month, great looking app, never crashes.

[–]eagleapex -1 points0 points ago

I think Apple saw too. You can do the whole iphone without itunes now.

[–]KingOfFlan -3 points-2 points ago

I recently purchased an iPad and I have never had to use iTunes. It simply isn't necessary. The apps on the appstore completely blow away anything on the google play market.

[–]fatal-error 0 points1 point ago

Sure, if you're into the horrible linen texture and glossy skeuomorphic UI on iOS.

The ability to plug your device in literally anywhere and add/remove/edit content is an essential feature.

[–]KingOfFlan -1 points0 points ago

Is it? I thought it would be but honestly I have no reason to plug my iPad into a computer ever. Everything I need to do with it is on the iPad itself. I can get files onto and off of the device through dropbox.

[–]fatal-error 0 points1 point ago

Yes, it is. I don't need to use a cloud service or an acceptable wireless network to access my files, I just drag them off.

By all means, have fun transferring 720p video over Wi-Fi.

[–]KingOfFlan -1 points0 points ago

Personally I find pulling 700MB files from my FTP server on my computer to my iPad in less than a minute to be pretty fun. Also I enjoy doing it from my couch. But have fun being physically connected to your computer.

Everything you are trying to tell me is a disadvantage I have an answer to that is better than what you were telling me I can't do. I don't think you've actually had a chance to use these products to their potential. You are feeding off of unreasonable Apple hate. iPads and iPhones are good products. There is a reason they are so popular. I have been using android phones for years now and I am way more impressed by the iOs than I ever was of android.

[–]fatal-error 1 point2 points ago

Android can do all of that as well, if you really must.

It also has the advantage of not having a UI that looks like it was inspired by Windows XP.

[–]KingOfFlan -1 points0 points ago

So your only legitimate problem with iOS is that you don't like how the default UI looks. You realize you can change that right? And I don't think you ever used Windows XP or iOS if you honestly think they look similar. I honestly don't even know where you got that idea from. They look nothing alike.

And yes, everything that I said you can also do on Android. The difference is that the appstore for the iOS is incredibly better than the google play store. I don't think you have any idea how good some of the apps are for the iOS. This is because developers don't make nearly the amount of money that they do on Android as they do on the App store. They know that they won't make as much money so if given the choice between the two operating systems they will always develop for iOS.

[–]IBCreepin 5 points6 points ago

I don't know why you're getting downvoted for presenting a valid opinion... I'm currently struggling with Android OS, and iOS is sounding better and better.

[–]weakvitalsigns 1 point2 points ago

Which Android platform did you have? I was running 2.2 on a Droid X and made the jump to iOS right around the time Android 4 came out. I haven't had too much experience with Android 4, but I was just over dealing with lag, crashing apps, and a surprisingly bad audio jack (something that is very important for an audiophile on the go).

[–]SirHaxalot 0 points1 point ago

As someone who is using an iOS device for the first time after 2 years of Windows Phone, I gotta say that I miss the interface and fluidness (although this might be because I got a 3GS) of Windows Phone. It's the little things that makes the difference.

That said it's very nice to have a device that it not totally neglected by everyone on the market.

[–]weakvitalsigns 0 points1 point ago

Considering that this is the iPhone 5 launch... You are three generations behind. Three. This is going to make a huge difference, you have to realize that. I'm currently rocking the 4S and have no intention of upgrading, but that is a fairly old device.

[–]SirHaxalot 0 points1 point ago

Yes, I'm aware of that. It doesn't really change anything in terms of general UI layout though.

[–]weakvitalsigns 0 points1 point ago

I guess I haven't used Windows Phone enough then... I've had my hands on one a time or two and disliked it, but that probably isn't enough time to get the feel for it either.

[–]SuiXi3D 0 points1 point ago

I've enjoyed the jump myself. GarageBand alone is too much to give up by switching back.

[–]prince_odd 5 points6 points ago

I'm reading this on my Samsung galaxy sIII. And yes it really is amazing.

[–]fallenazn 2 points3 points ago

Looks like Samsung is done fucking around.

[–]mch026 2 points3 points ago

After reading about the iPhone 5, I did a little math. The iPhone 5 screen is 25.9% smaller than my Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Also, its 1136x640 resolution is still not HD, with 21.1% less pixels than 720p. They tout their Retina display with its 326 ppi but still can't watch HD on the screen.

[–]SexyBacon 3 points4 points ago

I actually was unsure of the differences between the SIII and the Nexus.

[–]fatal-error -2 points-1 points ago

The nexus is slightly less powerful, but you have stock android without the shitstain that is touchwizz and you are guarenteed updates.

[–]SexyBacon 0 points1 point ago

What is touchwizz? And why does the SIII not have stock Android or guaranteed updates?

[–]fatal-error -1 points0 points ago

Its samsung's incredibly ugly and tacky UI skin they put onto all of their Android devices, they have to apply this skin and test it on each new version of android which makes updates take longer (Assuming they haven't dropped support for your device)

The Nexus is a developer device, its in Google's interest to keep you up to date and writing up to date apps. Samsung just want to sell you their latest phone.

[–]Maklite 0 points1 point ago

TouchWizz is an Android based UI. Not guaranteeing updates forces phone upgrades.

[–]Banshee90 0 points1 point ago

Touchwizz is kinda like a wrapper over top of stock android. its the exterior they screwed around with the user interface a little to make it special or something. The Guaranteed Updates is do to driver support, the cell phone makers make the drivers so they can basically kill an older cell phone by no longer supporting it, Though one can root there phone and trust the internet community to provide bug free drivers and run stock Android.

[–]lindymad 6 points7 points ago

Shake to Update? I can imagine now people find their samsung broken, shake it in anger and it gets updated to a working version. Or more likely it's working fine and then gets "shaken" while in the pocket and updates to a broken version ...

[–]the_satch 0 points1 point ago

This reminds of the Aero feature in Windows 7. Grab a window titlebar with the mouse and shake to minimize all other windows.

[–]senorsandman -2 points-1 points ago

I don't even know why they bothered listing some useless features like turn over to mute. Who cares about something as meaningless as that?

[–]MaRmARk0 40 points41 points ago

Actually this is one of most used features. I use it every night. Just go to bed, rotate your phone and sleep. It will be totally quiet except alarm. Perfect.

[–]r2001uk 6 points7 points ago

What?! I can leave it on loud and it will stay silent if placed face down? I've been setting it to silent every night since I bought it because of those infuriating midnight junk emails!

I thought the feature only worked while a call was coming in...

[–]MaRmARk0 0 points1 point ago

Actually I have HTC One X and it is basically the same phone as S3 so I assume it will work on both devices as this is Android's feature. If not there are plenty of apps doing it like FlipSilent etc.

[–]squeakyL 0 points1 point ago

That was how it worked with HTC phones when they introduced the feature.

[–]metellius 0 points1 point ago

I've been using Silent Time for this every night for years now.

[–]josephpatricks 0 points1 point ago

if you got the s3, the other cool thing is nfc - textile (sp?) and you can make your phone do all sorts of neat things with a tap to the tag.

[–]MaRmARk0 0 points1 point ago

Also One X does it :)

[–]josephpatricks 0 points1 point ago

in a few years I suspect all phones will do it, it makes too much sense. Tap your phone here before walking into the movies, cars already set to make use of it, stores that have you tap to get the latest ads or coupons/etc. What will be amazing is when your groceries will be able to scan like this/rfid, and then you can just tap your phone to pay before you leave.

[–]WasayZ -5 points-4 points ago

Everyone looking for reasons to claim Samsung is better than Apple.

[–]daman345 11 points12 points ago

Even if you take out all the bullshit items the Samsung still comes out better. Not that I'd ever get either, though.

[–]WasayZ 0 points1 point ago

As an owner of a 4s, I think the Galaxy is better, but not enough people have it for it to reach its full potential yet. I'll stick with my iPhone for now, but we'll see in a few years.

[–]Banshee90 1 point2 points ago

I don't understand this comment what does not enough people have it have to do with your purchase, Is it not trendy enough for you? Apps wouldn't make sense at all given that its running the most popular (not necessarily better) Andrioid OS. Maybe Accessories, but Iphone 5 is a different form factor and uses a different connector than its predecessors.

[–]nerys71 0 points1 point ago

Not sure who your talking too but I don't need to look for a reason to say samsung is better than apple.

IT IS better than apple. Fact.

apple needs to find a reason to say its better than samsung and the ONLY thing apple has going for it is inertia and the lame (to me personally) "cool factor" of its an iphone that fans seem to go crazy for even when its lame hardware.

it does not even actually have a 4" screen. its the same stinking 3.5 inch screen I hate just a little taller.

now I guess I am abnormal (relatively speaking) in this regard but I have BIG hands. I am 6'4" I am a big dude and I can't stand those tiny little screens.

[–]Turbojugend27 4 points5 points ago

A different plug? After 10 years, how many have you had Samsung? I like the SIII too, but don't talk shit.

[–]loamoku 19 points20 points ago

I think it has to due with the fact that the microUSB is now a standard throughout the world and I believe is law within many European nations, if not the entire EU. The microUSB is an overall better plug since so many more people have it.

However the iPhones new plug can be put in either way. There is no right side up.

[–]moarthenfeeling 5 points6 points ago

Well, I guess they understood their mistake. They don't make that anymore.

[–]HiddenText 6 points7 points ago

I think the point they were trying to make is that you will need all new peripherals if you purchase a new iPhone, whereas Samsung are using a standard micro-usb.

And it's not so much about the plugs they have had in the past, it's the future compatibility as well that people need to take into account.

Most companies, especially in Europe, are moving onto standardised connectors to minimise wastage on chargers and other appliances. Apple are one of the very few companies who have not done this with their latest model of phone.

http://www.ghacks.net/2011/01/01/european-mobile-charger-agreement-comes-into-force-today/

^ Although, that may have something to do with the iPhone 5 already being in production at the time of signing the agreement.

If the next iPhone/iPad released does not have micro-usb then Apple will lose a lot of sales in Europe, as most of their competitors will all be using micro-usb by then, and people will be less likely to purchase a new iPhone/iPad if they have to purchase extra peripherals whereas they would not have to do so with other brands.

[–]kingsmuse -3 points-2 points ago

The next iPhone/iPad won't have USB as for charging purposes it's inferior to Apple plugs.

I an charge my iPad from absolutely dead to full in a couple hours max.

My Nexus 7 takes all night to do the same.

[–]josephpatricks 1 point2 points ago

high capacity chargers should quick charge your nexus as well, mine charges in under two hours..(the galaxy s1 at least, I just picked up the s3, havent had it really eat up any power yet).

[–]kingsmuse 0 points1 point ago

Hmm, I'll have to get my hands on one.

Thank you for the info

[–]josephpatricks 0 points1 point ago

no prob. I searched amazon with micro usb quick charge, but it looks like there is a little bit to wade through. Good luck!

[–]rougegoat 1 point2 points ago

Well, Samsung uses the same plug as Motorola, HTC, Archos, Asus, Nokia, and every other smartphone and tablet maker. Apple uses their own one. So Samsung is factual in their statement.

[–]illegible 6 points7 points ago

If i wanted a tablet i'd get a tablet. I want a phone in my pocket, not a tablet sized phone.

[–]Waff1es 8 points9 points ago

The same Apple fans who said that any screen bigger than 3.5 inches was too big.

[–]illegible -3 points-2 points ago

while i'm not a fan of it getting any bigger, keeping the same width seems a nod to actual ergonomics instead of specsmanship.

[–]deyv 1 point2 points ago

But the new iPhone is starting to push it to a larger size bracket than I'd like.

[–]rougegoat 0 points1 point ago

A Nexus 7 tablet fits comfortably in my pants pocket with other things. A 4.85" phone is considerably smaller. I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be able to fit easily and comfortably in your pocket.

[–]jest3rxD 0 points1 point ago

I have a 4.5" screen and it fits perfectly in my pocket, plus my screen is big enough to actually use without my fingers feeling crammed like they did on my iPhone 4.

[–]kirillthekrill 3 points4 points ago

One would think that Samsung would have learned to think twice before publishing a list of the similarities between their device and Apple's.

[–]paradigmx 0 points1 point ago

The loss in court has actually been the best marketing Samsung could ask for, it just proved to the world that the iPhone and S3 are basically the same, but the S3 is bigger, higher resolution, faster and has a removable battery. And with the lawsuits that Samsung, HTC and Motorola are filing, backed by Google, they should recoup most of their losses in the process.

[–]ThaDon 0 points1 point ago

The ad is spot on, Android is a bit of a weed in the mobile space <trollface>

[–]thegreatvortigaunt 1 point2 points ago

It doesn't take a genius

Isn't "Genius" an iTunes feature? Apple lawsuit imminent.

[–]GrammarFailure 0 points1 point ago

I for one am completely okay with my 4S's screen size. I can comfortably touch both corners of the screen with one thumb.

[–]yafeelzmeh 1 point2 points ago

Only reason i like android better is because all the phones i've had with android have been durable as hell. Last iphone i had was the iphone 4(work phone) I broke 4 within 6 months. Yes, one of the falls would have broken any phone without a doubt, but the other three shouldn't have done anything, but those three were destroyed. I can see why apple makes so much money.

[–]louicifer 0 points1 point ago

but does it put lotion on its skin

[–]jimmjy 0 points1 point ago

Why is a removable battery so good? I have this phone and it only last me until the evening worth of battery. Are you telling me it is good to get a second battery for the already crazy priced phone just so I can use it the way it is?? I love the display and the camera app but not so sure this phone is all that great. I am missing my iPhone already :(

[–]cadcamm99 -1 points0 points ago

Where's the market for NFC. Seems useless if you can't use it. And if people hold on to these phones until there is one, Samsung will have lost sales on newer phones.

[–]rattoucher 2 points3 points ago

Google Wallet, and wireless sharing without a internet connection can be done via NFC as well I believe.

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[–]rattoucher 5 points6 points ago

Last I looked it works at 300,000 paypass locations.

[–]Olive_Garden -1 points0 points ago

Are they all in New York or something? None where I live.

[–]rattoucher -1 points0 points ago

I'm in Ontario and Google wallet isn't officially supported but people can still put it on rooted phones. Almost every McDonald's and Tim Horton have payloads.

[–]paradigmx 0 points1 point ago

I see paypass machines all over the place, I even bought a a Pepsi using it to see how it worked. I live in Edmonton, Canada, which isn't really the center of the technological universe.

It was actually pretty cool to see the look on the cashier's face, she had never seen anyone pay by swiping their phone, it's usually all credit card using paypass.

[–]ZombiesBeStylinOnMeh 2 points3 points ago

Just went to Macy's and saw "Google Wallet" was being accepted at their location

[–]shorty6049 3 points4 points ago

that's why they need to put it in the iPhone though. Without an NFC iPhone, most places will continue to not support NFC. It's a great technology but if it remains an android/windows only thing, its chances of succeeding aren't as good

[–]loamoku 0 points1 point ago

agreed 100% but google wont do that until they are done updating their NFC system to include travel documents and even farther into the furture, passports.

[–]super6logan 1 point2 points ago

Anywhere with paypass works which means basically every fast food restaurant in the country and several grocery and convenience stores, among other places.

[–]Duze 1 point2 points ago

Visa and Mastercard has spent several hundred millions the last couple of years working on an NFC based credit card solution. I know because my master thesis project got turned down as the major players already had a solution in the works.

Once something like that kicks in, NFC is going to become big.

[–]WasayZ -5 points-4 points ago

If Samsung wants to list features as useless as last those last 5, they really should have started to list some of the iPhone's discreet features as well.

10 mins in the hands of an Apple fanboy, the left side of the list would be twice as long as the right.

[–]austex_mike 20 points21 points ago

Wait? Are you claiming the a user removable battery is a useless feature? Because that is a feature I consider a deal breaker. Having multiple batteries is a HUGE advantage over other phones.

[–]WasayZ 2 points3 points ago

Hell no, I wish iPhones had removable batteries. That is the furthest thing from a useless feature. I mean something like tilt to zoom.

[–]kingsmuse -1 points0 points ago

Only when you have a phone that has crappy battery efficiency (Which most Androids do)

I've never needed an extra battery for my iPhone but have needed them for every Android I've ever had.

[–]metroidaddict -2 points-1 points ago

Honestly I've never had a problem with not having a removable battery. I regularly keep my phone charged so there is no need to have an extra battery.

[–]SirAdrian0000 -2 points-1 points ago

Here's a challenge for an apple fan with photo shop skills: Fix this add to include apples other features.

[–]jest3rxD 0 points1 point ago

Such as?

[–]malacide -2 points-1 points ago

Nice try Samsung marketing rep.

[–]lambaz1 -2 points-1 points ago

Why advertise the fact that your phone is heavier?

[–]Boondoc 5 points6 points ago

i would think in the interest of full disclosure. or at least the appearance of making an attempt at it.

[–]NotTheNews -2 points-1 points ago

Because Mac phones are flimsy fools.

[–]speckledspectacles -1 points0 points ago

Anyone else think the S III screen looks cracked from the image?

[–]crokethinky -1 points0 points ago

Looking forward to seeing the "we found the nerd with the smallest dick" posts... Oh wait, that only happens with cars!!

[–]Steameffekt -1 points0 points ago

Lets not forget about Gorilla Glass. Something Apple should really look into for their products. Cleared up.

[–]jipijipijipi 6 points7 points ago

Iphones have gorilla glass, in fact it was steve jobs who convinced corning to re-develop it for the first iphone.

[–]Steameffekt 0 points1 point ago

Oh, I see. I was going by this list here and Apple wasn't mentioned at all. Upon further investigation I found this.

Due to customer agreements, we cannot identify all devices that feature Gorilla Glass. Your favorite device may include Gorilla Glass, even if you don’t see it listed. Ask your manufacturer or retailer to learn more.

Is there a reason that Apple hides the fact that it uses Gorilla Glass?

EDIT: Added link.

[–]jipijipijipi 0 points1 point ago

I have no idea why they don't broadcast it, clearly something stops them from boasting about it while it would logically be beneficial for both companies.

Based solely on this quote by apple about jobs in the us : "Corning employees in Kentucky and New York who create the majority of the glass for iPhone..." This sentence can be read both way, either Corning is not manufacturing all the glass themselves, which would prevent both companies to advertise about it, or they manufacture much of the glass outside of the US which would harm their claim that they are great jobs creator. I'm wild guessing here obviously.

[–]rougegoat 0 points1 point ago

Must not be the good stuff then. If I had a dollar for every iPhone screen I've seen cracked or shattered I'd be able to replace my Nexus S with a phone that wasn't smashed by a car. Oh, and despite my phone going through that, its screen has no cracks.

[–]ParrotDrumStickBitch -2 points-1 points ago

Can you smell that? That's the smell of a lawsuit coming.

[–]eagleapex 0 points1 point ago

Who wants tilt to zoom? Isn't it obvious to pinch? Oh right patents.

[–]RomeFlower 1 point2 points ago

I am very disappointed with the iPhone 5, it is what the iPhone 4s should have been.

Every feature is only a minor upgrade with the implementation of a new proprietary dock connector with which Apple can make more money out of.

other phones have better features including OS, I am most looking foreword to seeing what the nokia 920 has to offer.

I am a Apple fan, I have owned and currently own over the years. iBook,Macbook Pro,ipod shuffle,ipod nano (x2),iPod touch,iPhone 4.

[–]runswithsquirrels -2 points-1 points ago

Might as well use a tablet as a phone.

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[–]Banshee90 0 points1 point ago

NFC?

[–]crazytigerr -3 points-2 points ago

Most of the features of android that the iphone doesn't have are retarded anyway, and not really necessary... I get the pros and cons to both, but still.

[–]TjallingOtter -2 points-1 points ago

To be fair, S Voice blows and the phone is heavier.

[–]jest3rxD 0 points1 point ago

To be double fair, siri also blows. It's just marketing, only slightly less shameful than apples.