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[–]Chazzelstien 29 points30 points ago

TIL muhammed was adorable

[–]djm1st 13 points14 points ago

In all fairness he probably looked really scraggly... so did Jesus... he actually probably looked like someone most people wouldn't want to sit next to on a flight going to New York...

[–]GandTforme 6 points7 points ago

Wouldn't mind sitting next to Jesus, though, on the flight.

Stewardess: "Hello, sir. Would you like anything to drink?"

Me: "Yeah, I'd like two cups of water."

Stewardess: "Here you go."

Me: "Thanks. Hey, Jesus, think you could hook me up, bro?"

SHAZAM

Jesus and I are now drinking two cups of wine. We spend the rest of the flight talking about his wife's magnificent rack and why God doesn't seem to talk to people as much any more.

[–]mavriksfan11 0 points1 point ago

But he would most likely look Middle Eastern (with a beard) and he'd probably be harassed excessively before he got on the flight (I would know as an Arab with a beard).

[–]acsoul 1 point2 points ago

Well, Jesus was born in the middle east.

[–]jjosh 1 point2 points ago

in Bethlehem, West Bank. I think its pretty well known since I remember being forced to sing songs about Jesus being born every Christmas in Elementary school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlehem

[–]snuckasneak 2 points3 points ago

Or on the subway

[–]elgiorgie 1 point2 points ago

Be careful....extremists hate it when you call their made up God/prophet adorable.

[–]ohsnapitsrags 118 points119 points ago

Why would the jew have a swastika on his arm?

[–]Ell975 246 points247 points ago

For the same reason that Obama is an atheistic, socialist Muslim, who sacrifices children to Satan.

[–]helpmesleep666 59 points60 points ago

How do you think Obama created 250k jobs. With the death of each infant a new job opening becomes available in the public sector.

[–]FatherofMeatballs 46 points47 points ago

So abortionists are our best job creators?

[–]jsmayne 37 points38 points ago

Vote pro-death

Abort 'em All

(think of all that tender baby veal)

[–]NoMoreMissNiceGirl 14 points15 points ago

We can't waste an ounce of that baby though! Don't forget to press out all the Baby Oil and grind the bones into Baby Powder!

[–]Tarbourite 13 points14 points ago

It is good to see that even in these difficult economic times that there are people like you who care about our future and our planet.

[–]Zorodude77 6 points7 points ago

Nice try, Jonathan Swift...

[–]heb0 2 points3 points ago

Abort 'em All could've been a great Metallica album.

[–]jsmayne 0 points1 point ago

i always think Kill em' All is a song and an album.

was going to make up alt lyrics

[–]daklassy1 0 points1 point ago

Back to the 1700's with you Jonathan Swift!

[–]picalo 2 points3 points ago

You use that "250k" as if it is a BIG number...when in reality is is dismal at best.

[–]dezeiram 1 point2 points ago

Damn better than 0.

[–]daxattacks 2 points3 points ago

Because people think Obama made up the holocaust?

[–]superpastaaisle 2 points3 points ago

A dark-skinned, anti-war socialist who wants everybody to have access to healthcare.

Jesus 2012.

[–]getemfox 61 points62 points ago

new conspiracy theory: jews controlled hitler, and made him kill jews so that jews could take advantage of western guilt and get Israel.

[–]ZeroGSpaceCow 9 points10 points ago

That's a hell of a long-con...

[–]monkeedude1212 2 points3 points ago

You'd be surprised how well that argument can be ignored by any conspiracy theorist.

[–]bouchard 32 points33 points ago

Directed by that guy.

[–]Teh_Warlus 8 points9 points ago

Sadly, that's not new at all. Yay humanity!

[–]bigcooter 1 point2 points ago

That's actually a belief held by many conspiratards.

[–]daxattacks 2 points3 points ago

Close. They believe that the whole thing was made up.

[–]uaa 0 points1 point ago

Not made up. Exaggerated.

[–]Dignified 0 points1 point ago

that's old. Look up Prescott bush, Paul Warburg, Standard oil, ig farben, ig farben america.

[–]trollwarIord 0 points1 point ago

Just wanted to say I think there is a conspiracy theory reminiscent of this somewhere out there. I at least know people who believe it.

[–]toodrunktofuck 24 points25 points ago

You're right. Islamists actually sympathize with Nazism very much. And Heinrich Himmler admired Islam for being a "warrior's religion".

[–]dickcheney777 8 points9 points ago

Just take the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Some of his friends.

[–]Fallschirm123 10 points11 points ago

There were a few Muslim SS regiments from Saudi Arabia IIRC.

[–]BS-O-Meter 6 points7 points ago

Only in that my enemy's enemy is my friend. Nazi Germany would have treated Muslims the same way they have treated Jews and Gypsies.

[–]TheOneFreeEngineer 0 points1 point ago

and Germans didn't like the British either

[–]RobertTheSpruce 4 points5 points ago

Maybe he's a HinduJew?

[–]bouchard 12 points13 points ago

The correct term is Hinjew.

[–]misterfanwank 1 point2 points ago

Or possibly Hinbrew. I've never understood the difference between Hebrew and Judaism.

[–]first_five-eighth 1 point2 points ago

Hebrew = language

Judaism = Relgion/ethno-cultural identity

[–]drilkmops 0 points1 point ago

LOOK OUT BE-HINJEW.

[–]elgiorgie 2 points3 points ago

I think some see the Israel occupation of Palestine as "nazi-esque" But also, it's just way more fun to not make any sense.

[–]Sanity_prevails 2 points3 points ago

Let's riot! Let's burn something!

[–]spongemonster 0 points1 point ago

That's not a swastika. It's drawn wrong. It's a hindu symbol.

[–]Fallschirm123 9 points10 points ago

No, it's still a swastika.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

uhhhhhhhhh

[–]spongemonster 7 points8 points ago

Hey, you're right! And I learned something today. Thanks for the correction.

[–]Exonik -1 points0 points ago

The swastika has a white circle and a red background.

[–]spongemonster 2 points3 points ago

I was reffering to the fact the the swastikas shown in the image is a mirrored version of the nazi swastika.

[–]farfigneugan 0 points1 point ago

Yup. The easiest thing to look for is if it looks like two S' overlapping, or weird L thingys.

[–]spock_block 1 point2 points ago

Because Hitler eight nine.

[–]MS_Paint_Dicks 0 points1 point ago

Venus=swastika=satan

Saturn=hexagram=satan

[–]wolf156 0 points1 point ago

I'm guessing because we use the swastika as a sort of universal symbol for fascism.

[–]27131006231262 1 point2 points ago

not only that, but its backwards too

[–]PietOlsen 0 points1 point ago

Many reasons, The Finnish Airforce used to have the Swastika plastered all over their shit.

[–]kissfan7 1 point2 points ago

The relationship between Arabic and Farsi media and National Socialism is... complicated.

There are a few themes, though, with some examples: 1) The Holocaust didn't happen. 2) The Holocaust happened and it was a good thing.. 3) The Holocaust happened, but Israelis as bad or worse than Nazis.

The cartoon is satirizing 3). For a great overview of Arab treatment of Jews and Israelis, I recommend this great book.

[–]Zahne1977 0 points1 point ago

If it makes you feel better, the artist drew the swastika's backwards.

[–]Zelcron 0 points1 point ago

One of them self loathing jews.

[–]dbubes 48 points49 points ago

well this picture probably just caused like 4 deadly riots overseas

[–]the_great_dane 3 points4 points ago

Like those, when this happened?

[–]dbubes 25 points26 points ago

[–]brnldz 3 points4 points ago

I think he was referring to, what we Danes call the Mohammed-crisis, where several riots broke out and jihads were given, because of about 12 drawings of Mohammed in a newspaper (with additional being fabricated for propaganda). A lot of trade with Denmark was boycotted too, along with a death sentence for the original cartoonist who now lives in hiding of fear for his life. He was attacked in his home a couple of years ago by a Muslim extremist trying to axe murder him.

[–]Red_AtNight 6 points7 points ago

[–]Eeizbee 10 points11 points ago

Shit son, are you trying to get reddit bombed?

[–]black_les_atheist 7 points8 points ago

I think the point people are missing here is that in many Muslim countries, anti-Semitic cartoons are features in major papers similar to cartoons in our newspapers. Major newspapers in Iran, for example, publish pictures of hook nose Jews, cartoons mocking the Shoah, and the use of swastikas to mock Jews. I can cite pictures in Al-Watan of Saudi Arabia, Ash-Sharq of Qatar, or al-Wifaq in Iran. These are not smalltime leaflets, but major newspapers with multiple international publishing outlets. You never, ever, ever hear a single Muslim diplomat or head of state condemn these caricatures or anti-Semitic articles. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are routinely invoked in these newspapers and by the leaders of some of these countries. Yet, and still, you do not see any sort of retaliatory violence on the part of Jews when these things are published. I don't think that Iranian embassies in countries where there exists any Jewish population has to worry about their embassies being attacked, burned, and overtaken. They don't have to tiptoe around a rabid Jewish public when a sculpture, cartoon, movie, song, op-ed, or viral video comes out of their country. There is no denying that only one major religion holds free speech and free expression hostage to its violent passions, and that is Islam. When these cartoons are published in the Saudi newspapers, you do not hear calls from across the globe for the government to intervene or denounce these newspapers the way the Danes were menaced by the Egyptian and Pakistani diplomats were. This cartoon is perfectly accurate if it is in reference to the way Muslim societies tolerate the virulent and hideous anti-Semitic images in their media outlets, but throw an absolute fit when a single offensive thing about Islam is uttered or spills from the tip of a pen.

It is blindness or dishonesty to pretend that majority Muslim countries don't want to enforce upon the world a double standard. They wage an attack on the principles of freedom of expression immune to government sentiments or violence (they are aided in this by a cowering media) and have never shown a hint of disturbance over the vile bigotry belched out of their own media markets. I think the linked cartoon is not making the argument that Muslims spend their time drawing crude and disgusting caricatures of Jews, but think nothing of the images coming from their own media outlets.

[–]lolsalot2 5 points6 points ago

Why are those swastikas reversed ?

[–]Awkward_moments 1 point2 points ago

I wondered this a few times. Most of the time I see a swastika it seems backwards, wondered if there was a shitty law or something on it.

[–]holomanga 1 point2 points ago

In some countries nazi-style swastikas are illegal.

[–]Awkward_moments 0 points1 point ago

Yea that’s what I was thinking, seems a bit stupid to me though. I mean everyone knows it I meant to be a nazi swastika. If it’s backwards its almost the same, ban neither of them or both.

[–]HulkyKrow 3 points4 points ago

Okay, this is too douchey to let by seeing as the post on the FRONT PAGE pretty much sums up how not all Muslims are like this. They held a damn pro-US rally today in response to the death of the ambassador and violence. Just... really? (I never get serious like this, but something just compelled me to reply to this in such a manner.)

[–]Bcd_corey 2 points3 points ago

That is a colorful lead pencil.

[–]c32484 3 points4 points ago

Intriguing. A lot people on here seem to be staunch defenders of the muslim faith. I see lots of hate being directed at Christians but as soon as islam gets criticised then out come the accusations of racism, bigotry, prejudice and stereotyping.

[–]REWARDIT -1 points0 points ago

It's the same cretins with mommy and daddy issues who are doing the attacks on Christianity and Islam. It's why the subreddit is such a sinkhole of 'Jesus as God out, Jews as Gods in' brats of fundamentalist Christians (version 2 of them). No sane atheist/agnostic can stand them.

[–]IndifferentMorality -1 points0 points ago

What the hell are you talking about? I count five front page /r/atheism posts ridiculing Mohammed this moment. Don't worry we think both you Christians and Muslims are retarded.

[–]bongsmoker666 21 points22 points ago

Yes, all Muslims think Jews are crazy demons and all white people drawing cartoons of Muhammad are drawing innocent little teddy bear depictions of him rather than racist caricatures.

[–]guess_twat 40 points41 points ago

Exactly! We all know that the cartoons of Muhammad are not really innocent little teddy bear depictions.....they are racist and offensive and somebody...probably an innocent somebody must die for it!

[–]guess_twat 2 points3 points ago

If you make a joke about my race then I can justifiably kill someone of your race, still call you a racist and feel perfectly justified in my actions?

[–]djm1st 0 points1 point ago

No, you can't... who in this scenario is doing such things and is justified?

[–]mavriksfan11 0 points1 point ago

They were clearly racist towards Arabs.

I don't think people should die for it, but that guy probably shouldn't have his job anymore. What kind of newspaper editor is going to look at that racist cartoon with Muhammad and a bomb in his turban and be like "Oh good, let's give that cartoonist a raise, yeah."

[–]guess_twat 0 points1 point ago

LOL, are you fucking serious? How many Jesus jokes do you see every freaking day? Is that racism?

[–]mavriksfan11 0 points1 point ago

No because Jesus is portrayed not as the race he was anyways.

Just look at those cartoons again man. The big nose, the scraggly hair, the bomb in the turban. All of these are slights towards Arabs. That's racism.

[–]captain150 0 points1 point ago

They are slights towards Islam. Not Muslims or Arabs.

It's like saying an offensive drawing of Jesus is a slight against Christians, or worse, white people.

[–]daklassy1 0 points1 point ago

You're right, don't get the faith and race confused, I happen to know a great many Arabic Norse-Pagans.

[–]guess_twat 1 point2 points ago

Seriously, the ONLY things that makes you think the pictures are of Arabs and not of Jews are the turban and the bombs. So are the turbans and bomb depictions racists? If they would have had the star of David on them instead of a turban and bombs would you still think they are racist? Do you think the Jews would have killed someone over it?

[–]DownpoursForAll 0 points1 point ago

It's a clear commentary on hypocrisy. How can Islam be the religion of peace when for 40+ years the first thing people associate with it is suicide bombings and terrorism? The cartoonist made a controversial but important statement which is perfectly justified given the reaction it received.

Likewise, a man draws a cartoon of Muhammad and his life is at risk. A muslim draws an offensive drawing of Jews and everyone is told to grow thick skin.

[–]bongsmoker666 -3 points-2 points ago

I'm not so sure about that dude.

[–]slan45 19 points20 points ago

Sarcasm is really hard to portray on the internet

[–]Because_Im_mad 5 points6 points ago

It wouldn't be so hard if he hadn't started out by telling the truth.

[–]tandem23 0 points1 point ago

I have seen this at least infinity times.

[–]Amryxx 6 points7 points ago

Well, as a Muslim, I have to say that I can't really criticize OP's cartoon. He makes a good point.

But then again, seeing that "making fun of the Prophet" = free speech, but questioning the Holocaust = prison sentence, some of you guys probably shouldn't feel too smug, either.

[–]Kaus3 10 points11 points ago

No one has had their head cut off for denying the holocaust.

[–]Amryxx 5 points6 points ago

So are we talking about the degree of punishment now? Presumably, you would be fine if those who insulted Islam are jailed rather than executed?

[–]Cromulentembiggening 3 points4 points ago

you would be fine if those who insulted Islam are jailed rather than executed?

I'd have MUCH less problem with it.

While I find holocaust denial pretty indefensible, self-serving filth, I don't think it should be punished with prison. However, imprisoning someone for doing something objectionable and killing people unrelated because of something that someone else did is not really a valid comparison.

[–]Amryxx -1 points0 points ago

Well, I agree that "thrown into a prison" is a much better fate than "having your head cut off"; however, I am merely pointing out that both societies, Libyan and the West, have their own sacred cows. It's the "beam in your own eyes" sort of parable.

Granted, this whole incident is horrible, but we should also remember that Libya is still recovering from the recent regime change.

[–]DownpoursForAll 2 points3 points ago

It's not a sacred cow. It's a well documented systematic atrocity backable by witness testimony on multiple levels, physical evidence (the facilities, bodies, supplies, etc) and mountains of meticulous Nazi record keeping, all in keeping with Nazi rhetoric about its views on Judaism and Eugenics. Lets not forget that the Nazi's weren't unfamiliar with purging "negative" elements of their society in an organized fashion. Like a certain young dyslexic boy from Frankfurt murdered for being genetically impure, along with countless other victims of Nazi eugenic programs.

Eventually the evidence is overwhelming. Every free society should invite examination of core truths to ensure an open society, but denial and revisionism in the face of such overwhelming evidence reflects poorly on the character of the individual.

No the jews were not the only victims of the holocaust. Numerous ethnic groups and fringe elements of society were murdered across Europe. Yes it was organized and intentional. Yes there has been holocaust sensationalism generated in the 67 years that have passed since then, and the public remains woefully ignorant of the fine details of the Holocaust.

/r/AskHistorians was quite vocal and upset about a group of holocaust revisionists fucking with a reddit topic just a week ago.

[–]Amryxx 0 points1 point ago

but denial and revisionism in the face of such overwhelming evidence reflects poorly on the character of the individual.

You know, I agree with this. If someone were to tell me that the Earth is flat and that the Sun revolves around it, I'm not going to think very highly of said people.

But at the same time, I'm not going to put him in prison, either.

[–]WirelessZombie 1 point2 points ago

The U.S. is pretty good on free speech laws, Europe (particularly Germany and Austria) are not.

I hate hate hate speech laws (Canada has them too)

I get your point that many people call for freedom of speech when Muhammad is being insulted and then call for punishment in other situations but those people are hypocrites.

"some of you guys probably shouldn't feel too smug"

You said some of you guys so just letting you know that I know that you know that we are not all hypocrites.

[–]Amryxx -1 points0 points ago

I use the phrase "some of you guys..." because I meant for my post to apply to only those who are a) feeling smug, and b) from the country with the Holocaust denial laws.

In retrospect though, it's rather combative, so I should probably have omitted that part entirely.

[–]gettinginfocus 2 points3 points ago

Questioning the holocaust leads to a prison sentence? In what country?

[–]Amryxx 0 points1 point ago

Austria, Germany, and some other European countries.

[–]eviscerator 0 points1 point ago

You make a good point. No part of the world is perfect, however I feel your argument is irrelevant. Everybody has something in their culture that needs work. It's not like somebody should keep score and go "Muslims are ok to kill people over pictures/videos until the <some date> because by then a new law steps in making holocaust denial a free speech act".

Long point made short: Just because someone does something bad, doesn't make it so someone else is ok to do something equally bad. Bad things should stop regardless of any other conditions.

[–]DKN19 5 points6 points ago

Pat Robertson can bark all he wants, but he's put on a leash. Where are the Muslims policing themselves. Some say "we are a religion of peace" but it takes more than talk. It takes action. Prove you're a religion of peace by muzzling your extremists. Cartoons of Jesus don't get this type of reaction.

Salman Rushdie, anyone?

[–]beefmongerer 2 points3 points ago

Why is it their responsibility to muzzle their extremists? That's a shitty point of view. You wouldn't ask Christians to seek out people like Breivik and "muzzle" them, would you? You wouldn't ask atheists to... fuck

Point is, no majority shouldn't be responsible for extremists using their religion as a guise.

[–]DKN19 4 points5 points ago

It's their responsibility to remake their societies into free societies where that sort of behavior cannot flourish. Apostasy is illegal in many Muslim countries. Let that sink in for a moment. That's not a person condoning state punishment for a religious crime. It's the state itself willing to go to great lengths to protect their religion over values like personal liberty. I'm not saying all Muslim people are shit. I'm saying the Muslim society is. So the likelihood of their producing extremists, and the likelihood of those extremists being able to do some damage, is significantly higher than in liberal nations. Cultural relativism cannot condone that.

[–]Hishutash 0 points1 point ago

It's their responsibility to remake their societies into free societies where that sort of behavior cannot flourish.

That's difficult since most of the Muslim world is run by western sponsored dictators and fundamentalists. This is only starting to change with movement like the Arab spring shedding western tyrranny You sound like you are utterly clueless about geopolitics and modern western imperialism.

Apostasy is illegal in many Muslim countries. Let that sink in for a moment. That's not a person condoning state punishment for a religious crime.

So what? Muslims view apostasy in similar terms to treason as western nationalists do. In case you're going to protest the nation state is an imaginary entity based on imaginary lines on the ground.

It's the state itself willing to go to great lengths to protect their religion over values like personal liberty.

Go tell that to Bradley Manning or Julian Assange.

I'm not saying all Muslim people are shit. I'm saying the Muslim society is.

Except the Muslims world is the most ethnically, culturally and politically diverse area on the planet. Try to keep you Eurocentric prejudices to yourself.

So the likelihood of their producing extremists, and the likelihood of those extremists being able to do some damage, is significantly higher than in liberal nations.

What privileged western delusional nonsense. Muslim societies tend to be much more peaceful than "liberal" western states which go around bombing, mass-murdering and terrorizing the globe.

[–]Amryxx 0 points1 point ago

It's their responsibility to remake their societies into free societies

Tell you what, if you're American, you go remake your society first. Make a society where illegal military adventures are actually frowned upon, and where those in power don't get to do evil things and get away with it.

Do that, and then you can start your lecture.

It's the state itself willing to go to great lengths to protect their religion over values like personal liberty.

Different parts of the world has different priorities.

[–]WirelessZombie 1 point2 points ago

" if you're American"

Alright assume he's not American, now what. That's a pretty sad defense.

[–]Amryxx 0 points1 point ago

Tell me what country he is from, then, and I'll adjust my defense accordingly.

Unless if there is some sort of mythical perfect country in this world.

[–]DownpoursForAll 1 point2 points ago

Different parts of the world has different priorities.

Like throwing acid in women's faces right? Just because they have different priorities doesn't mean those priorities are immune to criticism or examination.

[–]Amryxx 0 points1 point ago

Yes, like that. Or you know, bombing brown people with impunity and/or imprisoning them for over a decade without charge. That said, I never said that anyone is immune to criticism or examination.

[–]gxslim 0 points1 point ago

Guess we Americans should stop keeping the Saud family in power then, huh?

[–]mavriksfan11 0 points1 point ago

As an apostate from Saudi Arabia, though it's technically illegal, most people won't care (so long as you constrict the news to family and friends). I talked about it with an imam from a local mosque, and I never faced punishment or police interference.

[–]DownpoursForAll 0 points1 point ago

If they're going to elect a conservative religious party to democratically rule their government, then no, I don't particularly feel bad for asking the majority to muzzle their extremists.

[–]redditmaid 1 point2 points ago

Probably because of how some muslims in the Mid. East view Israel which is a Jewish state. They say that what Israel is doing to Palestine is comparable of the treatment the Jews received in German occupied countries in the 30's and 40's at the hands of the Nazis.

[–]Maccabe 3 points4 points ago

just because they repeat it often does not make it true

[–]joedirt123 -5 points-4 points ago

But it is true. The treatment it's similar.

[–]Maccabe 8 points9 points ago

no its not and no matter how many times you say it the facts speek to the contrary

[–]Fourth_philosopher 1 point2 points ago

dude, you depicted Muhammad, start running

[–]Blzbba 1 point2 points ago

Muslims are stupid people following a braindead religion.

[–]Major_halil 1 point2 points ago

you go visit r/islam...your all welcome to ask shit

[–]rasputine 24 points25 points ago

"Why do you worship a man who fucked a 9 year old child, yet still have the temerity to claim his morals were the unchanging word of god?"

[–]Cynikal818 5 points6 points ago

brb...asking exactly that. probably get banned though.

[–]Astantia 0 points1 point ago

...5 points 5 hours ago.

...what happened?

[–]Cynikal818 -1 points0 points ago

the post is up...no one has answered. you can go to my profile and find it easily if you want.

[–]IndifferentMorality 0 points1 point ago

It was removed.

=(

[–]Cynikal818 -1 points0 points ago

no its not. go to my profile. works for me.

[–]IndifferentMorality 0 points1 point ago

Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Here is a link. It says removed.

[–]Cynikal818 -1 points0 points ago

I just got a response.

[–]Astantia 0 points1 point ago

Lame. I was really hoping for a response. Thanks though!

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[–]rasputine 19 points20 points ago

That is utterly semantic, meaningless, and irrelevant. When you pretend that someone is the perfect man, spoken to by god, that his words, image and actions are holy and sacred, that he deserves devotion and praise, this is worship.

Your point however does not change the fact that this perfect man fucked a nine year old, and that this is considered a morally acceptable action for him.

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[–]rasputine 15 points16 points ago

Moral relativism is not a justification for the perfect man fucking a child. Fucking children didn't become wrong because it used to be OK, it became wrong because we have knowledge. Yet apparently god and his prophet were too ignorant to understand this. Neither Thomas Jefferson nor the other founding fathers are considered to be the pinnacle of human morality.

I'm also not criticizing the marriage, he married her when she was six. I'm criticizing him fucking her when she was nine.

So again,

How can you claim someone is the perfect moral guide for humanity, while his perfect moral guide includes pederasty.

[–]mavriksfan11 1 point2 points ago

I don't think Muslims worship Muhammad seeing as I was once a Muslim. They worship God.

[–]rasputine 1 point2 points ago

Again, that is incredibly semantic. The relation between muslims and Muhammed is one of worship, they just don't call it that.

[–]mavriksfan11 0 points1 point ago

Is this a joke? I am an ex-Muslim. It is certainly not worship, and this is not semantics. You pray to something you worship. Muslims pray to Allah not Muhammad.

And here's the kicker. The glorious irony in the whole melodrama. The reason Muslims protest to depictions of Muhammad is that they believe Jesus Christ (Isa) to have also been a prophet of Allah who was then turned into a person to be worshiped. They feared going astray like they believed the Christians to have done, so depictions of Muhammad were banned lest people forget their ways and begin to worship him.

So you're really really really wrong about that.

[–]rasputine 1 point2 points ago

You're totally right, muslims don't in any way venerate Muhammed. They don't believe his words were inspired by god, that he's the perfect man, that he was holy. They don't despise those who insult him, they don't react violently when he is insulted. They don't name their children after him or speak special praises when they say his name.

[–]mavriksfan11 1 point2 points ago

People name kids after fucking Seth, Noah, etc and all those people are not worshipped. Special phrases are said for all the Imams of Islam as well as the Prophet.

They may venerate him (and indeed he is seen as a faultless man) but that does not equal worship. It's pretty clear in Islam that Muhammad is not to be worshiped.

[–]RightWingWrite 1 point2 points ago

Real muslims don't use reddit.

[–]Major_halil 0 points1 point ago

...you just went full retard /r/Islam

[–]RightWingWrite 0 points1 point ago

What nation do you live in?

[–]Major_halil 0 points1 point ago

really go to /r/Islam have a chat with some normal Muslim. just to look at a different perspective.

and Turkish/dutch

[–]RightWingWrite -1 points0 points ago

Well im afraid you are not a true muslim, because muslims must live under the Shariah and there is no Shariah in the Netherlands. If you live in Turkey, my apologies

[–]Major_halil 0 points1 point ago

...im agnostic. thats why i rever you to r/Islam to show that were not all blood thirsty as the media shows us to be. so go to r/islam they will answer you qusetions

[–]Jmac0585 3 points4 points ago

Muslim Hypocrisy is redundant.

[–]SamBryan357 4 points5 points ago

I like the art, who made this?

[–]realcoolguy9022 18 points19 points ago

I'm guessing someone who will remain very very anonymous.

[–]SamBryan357 1 point2 points ago

I recognize the artstyle from the Muhammed poster. I feel like it's from a kid's book or something, it feels really familiar

[–]Alliosaurus 5 points6 points ago

Reminds me of Dav Pilkey's art. Captain Underpants and all that.

But it's J.J. McCullough from filibustercartoons.com

[–]SamBryan357 1 point2 points ago

There we go! That's what it reminded me of.

[–]doomocrat 2 points3 points ago

You don't know J.J. very well. It takes a lot of balls for a gay male, in the "gay media" or not, to call out Dan Savage.

[–]realcoolguy9022 0 points1 point ago

I stand corrected. I also don't know JJ at all.

[–]doomocrat 5 points6 points ago

This is a Filibuster comic, drawn by J.J. McCullough. filibustercartoons.com

[–]SamBryan357 1 point2 points ago

Thank you!

[–]sleepy_wall -3 points-2 points ago

Yeah I don't know about this one. The pictures that were shown to muslims were not only the ones published in the paper but also more from danish artists that weren't published in the paper. These pictures were muhammed being fucked by dogs and such. Not some happy smiling friendly arab on a piece of paper. This picture kinda collapses on itself when trying to point out hypocrisy.

[–]NulloK[!] 35 points36 points ago

Well I'm sorry to break it to you, but that is absolutely bullocks. JyllandsPosten (JP), the Danish newspaper, published 12 cartoons, one of which depicted Muhammad with a bomb in his turban. That cartoon was considered the most offensive of the 12 cartoons. The cartoonist Kurt Westergaard wanted to depict how he felt islam had been taken hostage by terrorists. None of the 12 cartoon depicted Mohammad being fucked by dog...NONE! See what did in fact happen, was that local Danish muslims of Middle Eastern descent (some were politically refugeed and were offered asylum in Denmark), went to the Middle East with a folder which included the 12 cartoons and several other cartoons and pictures THEY THEMSELVES HAD GATHERED FROM AROUND THE WEB! Pictures of Mohammad as a pig etc. (turned out it was from a contest in France...a "scream as a pig contest"!)

Get your facts straight buddy!

EDIT: Typo

[–]LaserBees 6 points7 points ago

You're absolutely right, the pictures were offensive. And someone must die for this!

[–]Urcra 4 points5 points ago

The only one that got published was Muhammed with at bomb in his turban, and the reason it got published was not to mock the muslims but because danes have a lot of self irony, they make fun of everything in the country and I really mean everything, but nobody had ever published a controversial picture of Muhammed. Which is what led a paper to set up a contest for people to make pictures of Muhammed and the best one would get published.

Also this picture caused a huge uproar of people burning flags and such, one guy even traveled to Denmark with an axe and tried to kill the drawer.

Source: I am a dane.

[–]DogRapistPANDA 1 point2 points ago

I'd like to see this for myself. You have a link?

[–]frogswithwings 0 points1 point ago

It doesn't collapse on itself because no matter what ONLY muslims would do what they've just done in response to ANY kind of derogatory picture regardless of how derogatory. We really can separate them out.

[–]greg-o 1 point2 points ago

WHere did my chinese swasstika symbol go? I thought I had it on my clipboard

[–]c2dj4boogie -2 points-1 points ago

Yes, all Muslims should be paired into the same category...

Well, at least one can't say that r/atheism isn't equally bigoted.

aaaaaaaand there's the downvote. Without a reply, obviously.

[–]PigFarmington -2 points-1 points ago

How do you spell bias?

[–]Daygus -2 points-1 points ago

do you have any idea how reposted this is....

[–]wzeplin -2 points-1 points ago

Muslim here. Not all muslims are like that, but there are a lot of fucking ass holes in Islam just like man other religions.

[–]ghenyob 0 points1 point ago

I don't think the attack was over the movie; it was over our foreign policy. Just as Bin Laden said 9/11 was a reaction to the sanctions on Iraq that killed half a million children, as well as our support for israel, the attack on our embassy was blowback for our support for israel and our bankrolling of middle eastern dictatorships. The murder was savage and cruel, and if we want to stop terrorism and incidents like this, we need to stop militarily intervening in the middle east.

[–]Onzez 0 points1 point ago

I bothers me that those swastikas are backwards.

[–]iasoninus 2 points3 points ago

it's weird knowing there is real danger for this artist now

[–]oneoneone_ 1 point2 points ago

You did not just depict muhammed... 1000 jihads for you

[–]niro88 0 points1 point ago

Actually those are buddhist swastikas, nazi-swastikas is right facing.

[–]wooron -1 points0 points ago

oh look its this post again

[–]lactosefree1 0 points1 point ago

I have had it with these motherfucking reposts on this motherfucking website!

[–]Sutarmekeg 0 points1 point ago

post that under r/redundant

[–]Fallschirm123 0 points1 point ago

Whole buncha white guilt in here.

[–]Capt_Poopie_Pants -2 points-1 points ago

Muslim Human hypocrisy

Islam is just the flavor of the month.

[–]xdzgor 10 points11 points ago

Decade, at least.

[–]TheDanishPencil 1 point2 points ago

YAA denmark :D

[–]Futski 0 points1 point ago

National Pride :)

[–]Nihilgeist -1 points0 points ago

Excellent post. Glad to see someone bringing some truth to these sheltered college kids of Reddit who're used to posting nothing but kittens and atheism vs. christian memes. It's a good thing the Christian religion isn't nearly as crazy as Islam or their colleges would probably be burning.

[–]mavriksfan11 2 points3 points ago

It's a good thing the Christian religion isn't nearly as crazy as Islam or their colleges would probably be burning.

lolwut. They're nearly the exact same shit. It's just that Islamic countries exist in states of geo-political and military turmoil right now and Christian countries (like those in Europe) are more or less stable.

When the Islamic Empire was stable they had a golden age of scientific advancement and mathematics. At that same time, Europe was really unstable (because of the Black Plague and Middle Ages) so they burned witches left and right and did all sorts of grotesque Christian fighting and torture. It's a matter of the times, not one religion being better than another. They're all shit.

[–]Sand_storm -2 points-1 points ago

No Christian or Jew would ever do anything like that. /s

[–]Izawwlgood 7 points8 points ago

Don't see Jews attacking consulates over satire.

[–]Sand_storm 0 points1 point ago

Muslims likely don't either. Just as in a marriage, anger builds in layers, and tempers flare over the trivial. In marriage, it is often difficult to discover the true cause of the argument.

But Muslims are angry at the West for many valid reasons. Illegal wars, killing of hundreds of thousands, torture, destruction of civilization, stationing of troops. This anger tends to coalesce and focus around trivial issues just as it does in marriages

[–]Aaronplane 0 points1 point ago

Yo, idiots downvoting this: the "/s" means sarcasm.