Maybe the French aren't so bad after all.

Morgankhaos · 2 days

I'm an English-American, so no one can be like "you say that because you're French". But people(mostly americans) don't understand that France has always liked Americans, hence why we have never been to war with the french(about the only people). And without the french helping us in the American revolution, there would be NO united states.

moddestmouse · 2 days

What a horrible title.

azboy · 2 days

France was the only country to stand up and publicly criticize W Bush for going in Iraq after 9/11. The french PM went to the UN and made a speech saying that powell's WMD were invented and it was wrong to go to Iraq, France wouldn't go. A good friend supports you when you need it and tries to wake you up when you're delirious.

army_economist · 2 days

The fuck kind of title is that? They show solidarity and you reply by being a dick?

basherbubbles · 2 days

Really. The Nation that gifted us our statue of liberty, the Nation that lent us military forces in our war for independence, the Nation that sailed soldiers across the Atlantic when the British burned the White House down 40 years after we claimed independence from them. I guess they aren't so bad that they show us support with plastic tied to support beams for a day.

Actor412 · 2 days

Let's not forget the entire "French-hating" meme came about in the run-up to the Iraq Invasion. France refused to join "the coalition of the willing," because it a) didn't have faulty intelligence over Saddam's WMB, b) has far more experience in the "poorly planned invasions" and knew that it was a bad idea and c) Bush didn't have enough threats or bribes to force it.

This is an entirely Republican meme, brought about as part of a massive propaganda campaign.

Another aspect of propaganda is to either forget or re-write history. So people continue to think that the "France Hating" thing is part of our history, when really it didn't exist (in such a dramatic form) more than ten years ago, from one of the most incompetent and destructive presidencies American has ever suffered through.

RawdogginRandos · 2 days

It boggles my mind when I see other countries do memorials for 9/11... When was the last time you saw the United States make a memorial for the London train bombing or the Norway shootings

skurppalurp · 2 days

Does the left tower accidentally say 2011, or was this picture taken last year?

jakesterlicious · 2 days

I think the 2 pillars are just to prevent an attack on their eiffel tower...

coloradolovechild · 2 days

I was at this ceremony a year ago, and as an American living in France it was truly moving. I was holding French and American flags and had a lot of French people come up to me and hug me. An older French couple wearing D-Day memorabilia came up to me and asked if I was American, and when I said yes the woman started crying and gave me bisous and hugged me saying "merci, merci." It was incredible. That whole ceremony was one of the most patriotic times of my life.

Xtracharacters · 2 days

The French never were bad.

Without the French we would still be under British rule. That big statue of liberty of thing... A gift from France. They have a twin.

They have historically been America's biggest ally. They just didn't agree with the Iraq war because they aren't stupid and we are.

Also, French people understand the concept of enjoying life and don't worship "working hard" like it's a good thing.

Protip: if you are working hard you are doing it wrong and making your boss rich.

IfYouSeeHerSayHello · 2 days

I've never stopped liking the French. The French-American friendship has lasted centuries and is an important part of our history.

I'd die to protect France if it were being attacked, and I've never even been there.

borbus · 1 day

Scumbag America: gets French help to become independent of Britain. Remains friends with Britain. Hates France.

Zaphod_B · 2 days

I've been to France and been to the French part of Switzerland. Some French are awesome and love to chat with you, other French hate foreigners. OMG IT IS JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

I've been lucky to travel the world and there are always some people who hate foreigners or Americans and always some who love us. That is just how it goes.

fongaboo · 2 days

Let's also remember that France thwarted a 9/11-style attack that pre-dated 9/11 by seven years.

JC2535 · 2 days

We stormed the beach at Normandy in part, to repay the debt we owed them for our Revolution. We are blood brothers and sisters to the French. They are our staunchest and truest ally. Any Republican that thinks otherwise is a Fox News programmed shit-head. Vive La France! Vive La America!

acntech · 2 days

One should never forget that the French and Germans were perfectly right when they declined to follow the US into Iraq.

For those of you to young to remember: the US government claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, was planning to use them against the West and was in league with Al Qaeda and thus implied that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. Tony Blair famously claimed that Iraq had the capability to launch chemical and biological weapons "within 45 minutes".

ALL OF THIS turned out to be lies. All of it. Yet the US media fell over each other in portraying France and Germany as back-stabbing cowards. I'm still waiting for anyone to offer any kind of apology for the vitriol and hatred that was poured over "the old Europe" in the early 2000s.

So, don't be surprised that very few people in Europe are willing to support the US in any martial endeavors anymore.

mdbk · 2 days

French-hating is the most tired fucking thing in the world. What are you, 19 or 20? You don't know a fucking thing about a fucking thing. You heard someone say some disparaging remark about the French in a shitty SitCom one time and it entered your lexicon.

I do love the picture, but it is seriously time to dump this kind of tone when talking about France. A good rule of thumb for when you're not interesting enough to form your own opinion about something is to keep your fucking mouth shut.

DudeFromTheInternet · 2 days

Guys, this most recent wave of anti-French sentiment in America stems from French opposition to the Iraq War. Which, let's keep in mind, they were completely right about.

Softballer5285 · 2 days

I only voted down cause the stupid caption. The French have always been on Americas side and we've always been on there...ya douche

sobedog · 2 days

French have NEVER been bad, except in FoxNews alternate reality.

essbeck · 2 days

I remember the freedom fries era, because France didnt think it was a good idea to invade Iraq. A time when boycot took place against French goods and businessowners removed countrys name from products.

A good friend tell their ally straight up if they think they are doing a misstake.

VonBrewskie · 2 days

Never forget this man, my fellow Americans. Never forget the brave French soldiers that helped us establish our country, and keep it whole. The French people, and the French underground that rescued so many of our pilots in WWII, and dealt so many blows to the German occupation. I'm sorry, I'm not a historian so I don't have a deep knowledge of this subject. I do remember my grandfather's stories about why America and France are such close allies. We've bled a lot together for each other's causes. We're brothers and sisters, sisters and brothers and I am grateful to them for this display. Thank you. Also, that's a bullshit title for this post. Straight up.

parlezmoose · 1 day

The only people who think the French are bad are ignorant fucks who couldn't find France on a map.

CPU1 · 1 day

Without France, America wouldn't exist.

mkgr4boski · 2 days

They've had our backs since the Revolution. vive france!

iLuVtiffany · 2 days

I'm American, I don't hate the French. I just make fun of them every once in a while. Like how a lot of people make fun of Americans. It's all good.

Except maybe for the French men who can just talk and get women. I hate them.

Aceous · 1 day

Like Noam Chomsky said, 9/11 was a chance for the United States to open to the world, accept their solidarity, and use their sympathies to build more soft power and better, more cooperative ties. But instead, those chickenhawk cowboy wannabes from Texas came out gun-slinging and flushed it right down the shitter.

Also, hurr-durr, the frenchies, surrender monkies, gyuckyuck, amirite?

Please go fuck yourself if you are this type of person. You are either an attention-hungry circlejerker or you are pathetically ignorant of the world around you, in which case I feel sorry for you because you have no grasp of the variety and depth of the very life you live in. Either way, it's a lose-lose.

Hamilton5M · 2 days

I hate how some ignorant Americans forget how much France has done for us.

Fucking statue of Liberty

Funded revolutionary war

Ship warfare as we had few ships to keep the brits off our backs

Arms and ammunition

Sent their sons to help us and a good many died

Kdnce · 2 days

Honestly what's not to like about France? Great food, drinks, electronic music, fine art, beautiful ppl with a rich cultural history. I bet we get along with the French better than the Brits ;)

CHAAAZZZZ · 2 days

it's gotta be awkard when they take those things down.

Wagnerius · 2 days

We really like the US, but like a good friend, we say it when we don't agree. And like with any long-time friend, some aspect of one personality gets on the nerve sometimes. That works both way.

funkydo · 1 day

IRAQ

HAS

NOTHING

TO

DO

WITH

9/11

(But you're not alone in the misconception.)

Blaming France for not wanting to invade Iraq needs to stop. THE INVASION WAS IMMORAL.

Genie_sans_frotter · 1 day

An extract from the speech of French foreign minister Dominique de Villepin in the UN, about the war in Irak, on february the 14th.

" The option of war might seem a priori to be the swiftest. But let us not forget that having won the war, one has to build peace. Let us not delude ourselves; this will be long and difficult because it will be necessary to preserve Iraq's unity and restore stability in a lasting way in a country and region harshly affected by the intrusion of force. Faced with such perspectives, there is an alternative in the inspections which allow us to move forward day by day with the effective and peaceful disarmament of Iraq. In the end is that choice not the most sure and most rapid?"

...

"This message comes to you today from an old country, France, from a continent like mine, Europe, that has known wars, occupation and barbarity. A country that does not forget and knows everything it owes to the freedom-fighters who came from America and elsewhere. And yet has never ceased to stand upright in the face of history and before mankind. Faithful to its values, it wishes resolutely to act with all the members of the international community. It believes in our ability to build together a better world."

Whole speech here (translated): http://www.am.gov.lv/en/?id=4703

The war started a month later.

MattVoltage · 1 day

So how are they going to take that down without it looking, awkward?

rhetoricalnonsense · 1 day

a headline in the Le Monde (a French newspaper) following 9/11 was "Today we are all Americans". They played the Star Spangled Banner at Buckingham palace. Iran strongly condemned the attacks (at the time) and expressed condolences.

the amount of international goodwill that was squandered by the Bush Administration following 9/11 is just staggering to me.

kiwiluke · 2 days

The whole Anti-French bollocks started because the French refused to support America attacking Iraq, prior to this France had worked closely with America on the war on terror

France, along with other nations such as Germany, Belgium, China and Russia, opposed a proposed U.N. resolution authorizing the U.S. invasion of Iraq in March 2003.[19] During the run-up to the war, French foreign minister Dominique de Villepin emerged as a prominent critic of the George W. Bush administration's Iraq policies. Despite the recurring rifts, the often ambivalent relationship remained formally intact. A few days after the September 11, 2001 attacks, President Jacques Chirac – later known for his frosty relationship with Bush—had ordered the French secret services to collaborate closely with U.S. intelligence, and created Alliance Base in Paris, a joint-intelligence service center charged with enacting the Bush administration's War on Terror.

George W. Bush and Jacques Chirac during the 27th G8 summit, 2001 Public attempts in 2003 to boycott French goods in retaliation for perceived French "active hostility toward America"[20] ultimately fizzled out, having had little impact. Nonetheless, the Iraq war, the attempted boycott, and anti-French sentiments routinely whipped up by American commentators and politicians bred increased suspicion of the United States among the French public in 2003, just as anti-war demonstrations, hostile treatment of American tourists in Europe,[21] and the actions of the French government bred a similar level of increased distrust of France in the United States. By 2006, only one American in six considered France an ally of the United States.[22]

source

Owitb · 2 days

Who says the French are bad? What the hell is up with that?

minirauschie · 2 days

I don't care what the arguments on this picture are, France shows great respect doing this because this was such a tradigy. Well done, France. Thank you.

DrOktagon · 2 days

Any squabbles we've had with our French sister have been more like family conflicts rather than true hostility.

The fact is we have so much in common and we both know it.

liberal democracy, individual freedoms, etc...

We have more in common with each other than most other countries.

from an American friend...

VIVA LA FRANCE!

panduhz · 2 days

So you thought French were bad before you saw this pic... I'm offended.

Muame · 2 days

I'm moving to Paris in 60 days...lovely people.

Haigolo · 2 days

I'm trying to think of when this Anti-French sentiment began.

FlyinEye · 1 day

Don't forget it was Fox News & Rush Limpdog & Republicans who started this whole "we gotta hate the French" B.S. Unfortunately, they have very big mouths and get herd. Many Americans don't think the French are bad. Some of us even know we have been fighting along side each other for over a century. And that we got the Statue of Liberty from France. I hate the way ignorant politicians and faux news outlets portray the "feelings" of Americans. It's not the way the majority of us feel.

FaZaCon · 1 day

I could never understand how George Bush would always clammer on about the English being our greatest ally (maybe when it comes to oil exploitation), when the French have been our greatest ally since the very freaking beginning.

Vive la France!!

unholyrage · 1 day

Why would the french be "bad" in the first place. I'm American and I know for a fact French people are awesome. Dumbass.

Xtravity · 1 day

Who said they were bad.

DeadlyJelly · 1 day

French helped us win our independence. I love them

Killmelast · 1 day

This whole '9/11' thing annoys the shit out of me. It is getting blown so out of proportion. People die to terror acts all the time, people die to the wars following those acts all the time, all around the globe. The thing in NY was neither especially big nor dreadful...but it was good for propaganda purpose i guess.

devilcraft · 1 day

It just makes me sick. The attack was horrible and morally wrong but it was not uncalled for and it was not a fraction of as bad as the A-bombs dropped by the US on Japanese civilians (3,000 vs 200,000+). And you don't see the world (or reddit) wallow in that shit every 8th of Aug.

Shame on you.

Heshpa · 1 day

I hate the made up hatred of the French, I chalk it up to idiocy.

ElevenReds · 1 day

...Have I missed something whats wrong with the French?

Thisisopposite · 1 day

I never thought the french were bad anyway.

nardnerd · 1 day

The only reason the French are so bad is because they were the first to oppose the Iraq war and the media threw them under the bus, since then people say fuck France.... never knowing why. That's the American way... whistle blowers and naysayers get thrown under the bus no matter what ... and we applaud the injustice

bobjohnsonmilw · 1 day

I left to live in Germany 2 weeks after 9/11. I remember seeing papers from all over, most notably from France that said, "We are now all Americans". I thought that was pretty cool.

You know what we did with that grace and empathy?

FUCKING FREEDOM FRIES.

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