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not an acceptable answer... (i.imgur.com)

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[–]swcvii 10 points11 points ago

I love when reddit up votes what would be considered a conservative "whining" in america.

[–]hitmenow -1 points0 points ago

Europeans are just more sophisticated..

[–]CommunityFan89 26 points27 points ago

Is anyone else bothered by the giant spacing for "was not an"? They clearly could have fit more words from the next sentence in.

[–]durstand 18 points19 points ago

Because Newspapers.

[–]theodrixx 0 points1 point ago

I know nothing about editing for a newspaper other than what I learned writing for my high school paper, but do any experts know if the huge spaces in the OP are considered acceptable?

[–]dividezero 2 points3 points ago

Justified spacing. You have column inches to fill and that's how it happened. Used to be a lot harder before computers. You'll notice the spring is even worse back then.

Open up word and type out a few paragraphs, highlight it and look for justified in your paragraph settings if you want to try it yourself.

The vertical justification (the factor most responsible for this spacing) is more pronounced if you do this in a text box in pagemaker or publisher.

[–]theodrixx 2 points3 points ago

Oh yeah, I completely disregarded the vertical space. Thanks.

[–]thegimboid 4 points5 points ago

I actually read the spaces.

In my head it sounded like "They said this was..........not.......an acceptable answer."

[–]Stealchocobo 39 points40 points ago

Normally I don't mind reposts, but I saw this less than a week ago :/

[–]Shadow_of_Nex 30 points31 points ago

saw it yesterday...

[–]Stealchocobo 5 points6 points ago

/sigh. figures

[–]bw1870 29 points30 points ago

I saw it already twice tomorrow.

[–]otm_shank 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, and it was just as fucking stupid the first time.

[–]Warfrog 76 points77 points ago

O right, I didn't realise he was fully dependent for each of those individuals. I thought that he contributed ~ 1/65,000,000th of that.

[–]ndchristie 98 points99 points ago

The best response would have been to just take him at his word, and send him back a bill for the sum total that those programs receive from the government. Refund everybody else's taxes for that year with a letter saying "Don't worry folks, Alan's taking care of it for us!"

[–]Warfrog 41 points42 points ago

LOL. Cheers, Alan.

[–]Rixxer 13 points14 points ago

"Alan, take care of these people."

[–]TacticalBacon00 6 points7 points ago

DAMN IT ALAN

[–]Bipolarruledout 4 points5 points ago

I'll even be nice.... only a 10% tax rate, $1.59 trillion dollars should cover it. The IRS takes visa and mastercard.

[–]Punkwasher 4 points5 points ago

"Ricky?"

"Jes Lucy?"

"Doesn't the president get paid with our tax dollars?"

"Jes, Lucy!"

"Well, then, can I claim him as a dependent on our tax return?"

[–]SwollenPickle 3 points4 points ago

if he really wants to list them as dependents... by all means let him... but then we can have him arrested for negligence.

[–]ItsDare 36 points37 points ago

What a cunt he is.

[–]rburkwood 23 points24 points ago

Home Office estimates 500,00 illegal immigrants.

Official Stats estimate around 280,000 addicts of class A drugs (inc Heroin and Crack)

Office for national statistics puts people out of work at 2.58million, also to claim that all of them are "benefit scroungers" is ludicrous I myself was unemployed for 3 months this year through no fault of my own and not for trying to get a job.

MOJ states the Uk prison population is currently around 97,000

Also what would you have done with the 97,000 prisoners?

Awful right-wing propaganda.

[–]ImOffendedByThat 10 points11 points ago

I have a wild feeling posts in r/funny is meant to be funny and not for the sake of trying to influence redditors towards a specific position.

Just a little tip, don't watch George Carlin, Stephen Colbert or any other comedians that talks about society. Because... that is... propaganda...

[–]JoshuaIan 2 points3 points ago

The post wasn't, the original clip sent in certainly was trying to influence people. Also, there's a difference between someone making up bullshit figures talking about society, and people saying true things about society. A rather large difference, at that.

[–]ImOffendedByThat 2 points3 points ago

The post wasn't, the original clip sent in certainly was trying to influence people.

Rburkwoods outburst still doesn't make any sense.

Also, there's a difference between someone making up bullshit figures talking about society, and people saying true things about society

Oh, comedians says true things about society? I've completely missed that.

[–]MeloJelo -3 points-2 points ago

Oh, comedians says true things about society?

Are you familiar with satire?

[–]ImOffendedByThat 1 point2 points ago

Yes. Do you think all forms of satire are based on an objective 'truth'? And seeing how we were generally speaking about comedians one form of comedy doesn't really matter.

[–]syriquez 18 points19 points ago

Guy is a fucking dipshit. Probably the same kind of chucklefuck that goes on and on about how he's a self-made man...while ignoring all of the public works and facilities he uses daily and expects to be provided.

[–]MeloJelo 2 points3 points ago

Plus, if he's anything like the guys in the US that the GOP keeps touting, he's also been on welfare and took hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of government loans and contracts to start and run his business.

[–]syriquez 2 points3 points ago

Sounds about right.

I love the excuse that "they'd be a fool not to take advantage of it". What the fuck happened to principles, asshole?

[–]Bipolarruledout -1 points0 points ago

"Personal responsibility" doesn't apply to you, only everyone else.

You know who else would "be a fool not to take it"? Welfare recipients. And to think that the majority of people on it actually want to be on welfare is ludacris. There is nothing more demeaning to someone then not even being able to find a minimum wage job.

[–]lolrsk8s_2 -2 points-1 points ago

Everyone is a self-made man unless you're totally fatalistic.

[–]syriquez 4 points5 points ago

Your mother would take issue with that on the face of it.

Humans are never self-made, even when we were still fleeing the big cats on the plains and hiding in trees or caves. Their entire development and success requires the success of their community, whether your parents are feeding and clothing you or teachers in another city are educating children to further society.

[–]Adicko85 -1 points0 points ago

Stupid Alan.

[–]Bipolarruledout -1 points0 points ago

And apparently those "crack addicts" are quite wealthy since they since the world cocaine and heroin trade is estimated to be at least $200 billion a year.

[–]Bipolarruledout 0 points1 point ago

Also not funny unless you happen to have an income of $15.9 trillion dollars a year.

[–]Cockdieselallthetime 3 points4 points ago

Wow, nice comment thread.

Why are people so hostile toward people questioning the value they receive from their governments when they are handing over hard earned money. Especially when everyone gets to use the same services regardless of taxable income.

Pretty sure government bureaucracies in all western governments are giant money wasters.

This just reeks of people who have no real income tax liability, so they don't understand paying the federal government 30%, state government 6%, plus 6% SS, 4% FICA, and a few thousand in property taxes. Fuck it just never ends.

You might be saying "well that still leaves 55% or so." Well you forgot the fixed costs like car insurance, home insurance, mortgage, car payment, gas and electric, cable bill and all the bullshit government regulation that makes those things more expensive. blah blah blah blah... all the government is doing is stealing your discretionary "fun" income and wasting it on pet projects and political bullshit like bailing out a terrible business model like shitty car companies and the bank who's fucking me on said mortgage.

I for one am sick of it.

The common argument is "well the roads and bridges." If the government was using my money to pay for roads and bridges, you wouldn't hear a god damn peep put of me... but we all know that's not the case... .00001% of my taxes fund roads and bridges.

[–]FuZZy99 5 points6 points ago

There are just so many kids on here that won't understand this that I'm surprised you haven't been down-voted to the core of the Earth. I for one agree with you 100%. Shoot, I wish they would just tax me for stuff I use, but it doesn't work that way. No problem with helping those in need, but the pet projects and waste in government need to stop.

And here come the downvotes...

[–]Cockdieselallthetime -3 points-2 points ago

All my liberal college friends (myself included) have all graduated and got jobs and started paying for shit, it's funny how we all changed our tunes.

[–]Bipolarruledout 4 points5 points ago

To call entitlements a "waste" is absurd on many levels. The first is to assume that there no economic stimulus created by welfare. In fact the money multiplier effect is far stronger because this money is spent locally and converted directly to profits which enrich commercial activity. The only difference between this and "quantitative easing" by the fed is that it actually works. In an economic construct there is no "waste", only expense and profit. Ironically the ones railing against "governmental waste" tend to be first ones in line to cash the checks. I'm talking about private defense and security contractors, private prisons, healthcare, etc. all of which employ people and gladly take the tax cuts funded by this "wasteful" spending.

I'm sorry but the "if it's good for me it's good but if it's good for you it's bad" argument doesn't hold any weight. Economic systems only function when money is being exchanged and government greatly facilitates this exchange via taxes and redistribution. The money doesn't just "disappear" after it's spent as conservatives seem to suggest on one hand while on the other praising private industry as a "creator of wealth".

[–]Cockdieselallthetime -2 points-1 points ago

This kind of argument always cracks me, mostly because it's just stupid, incoherent bullshit.

  1. I don't believe I ever said anywhere in here that entitlements are wastes... no, in fact I'm sure I never did.

  2. As a person with a Masters in Applied Economics, I can firmly tell you that there is 100% no chance that entitlements cause any positive market forces in terms of government revenue. You just made the assertion that when a person makes a purchase with government money, it helps the local business. But the business is the entity that paid for the entitlement in the first place. Since most small business file as individuals, you are effective making the argument that people should be happy to pay 30 some odd percent, so it can be given to people who may spend it on goods so you can retain some of the investment and pay 30% of it again.

  3. Quantitative easing is a miserable failure. If it were successful, the 6 trillion in deficit spending we did over the last 3 years would have catapulted the US into the perfect employment and 5% year over year growth.... but it has not. I think you'll notice you don't hear much about Keynesian economics anymore... that's because it's a failed concept. You cannot spend your way out of a recession, you cannot fake economic indicators to spur capital investment.

  4. The rest of your comment is full of statements with zero proof or reasoning and some wildly incoherent rant that makes zero sense.

I'm sorry but the "if it's good for me it's good but if it's good for you it's bad" argument doesn't hold any weight.

The fuck does this even mean?

Economic systems only function when money is being exchanged and government greatly facilitates this exchange via taxes and redistribution

Holy shit, the stupid..... it hurts my head.

[–]dividezero 0 points1 point ago

Because another schmo just like you has to deal with that. No one else sees your passive aggressive rant but another tax paying schmuck just like you. It's an asshole move just like shitting all over a rest stop just because you got a speeding ticket.

Also those numbers are fabricated and even if they were true, you are not paying the full bill so it's also disingenuous.

Also saying that your tax burden is 45% off your income is bullshit. Period.

And before you make more assumptions, i do pay my full taxes and am very aware of what i pay. And no i don't work at game stop or McDonald's.

[–]slackeyed 2 points3 points ago

LOL this guy is doing so well he never has to worry about public assistance! He's superior to the needy!

[–]d3adbor3d2 5 points6 points ago

i'm sure he grows his own food, paves his own roads, and builds everything he needs (his car, clothes, house, all his furniture) from scratch.

[–]superfuzzy 3 points4 points ago

To be fair, he isn't complaining about his tax money going to those things, nor is he saying he thinks he shouldn't pay taxes. He is arguing that some of what his taxes go towards are things he doesn't want to support.

[–]sxeguy -5 points-4 points ago

No, you're an idiot. You're either for taxes above 50% of your income up until all of your income, or you're an anarchist that doesn't believe in government.

Reddit has decided there in between and anyone who suggests that taxes could be lowered MUST be reminded about roads and bridges.

[–]superfuzzy 0 points1 point ago

Oh reddit, you so crazy

[–]manlord 2 points3 points ago

This is the kind of shit that pops in my FB newsfeed from people I don't actually like.

[–]boobatron 1 point2 points ago

how come newspapers sometimes space out words really far apart?

[–]melance 5 points6 points ago

They use full justification so that the text inside a rectangle doesn't leave negative space on the right hand side.

[–]Maniac523 0 points1 point ago

this was................not.....................an

Is there a reason for this or is it just lazy?

[–]gu5 1 point2 points ago

Looks like it's from Viz

[–]awe300 1 point2 points ago

Drives on public roads, uses publicly financed services for weather.

Buys publicly controlled food and water, enjoys protection from fire and criminals

But never got anything for his taxes!!!1

Edit:

The only option to live completely without public benefits is practically living in a cave, and hunting and gathering and only living of things you made on your own.

and even THEN you are dependent on the game and fruits not being toxic to your health because of possible environmental pollutants, thus taking benefit from public environmental standards

it's total fucking bullshit

[–]Cockdieselallthetime 3 points4 points ago

Think the argument is that he feels like the taxes he is paying is very much disproportionate to the services he receives, especially if everyone uses the same services but doesn't necessarily pay anything to use them.

I certainly don't think the argument is that he should pay no taxes. This is strangely familiar to talking points from the American White House, which attempts to argue against a position no one really holds.... I believe they call that a strawman.... but I'm no expert.

[–]awe300 3 points4 points ago

that is not how it works though, you can't just choose to take what you want and leave the rest-

Say he doesn't want to pay into unemployment because it won't happen to him, and then it does?

Say he doesn't want to pay for the prison system because he is a law abiding citizen, and then he kills someone?

That's not

How it works

[–]Bipolarruledout 1 point2 points ago

Not only that but if it wasn't for illegal immigrants then you'd be paying a hell of a lot more for those lovely California strawberries.

[–]Cockdieselallthetime -3 points-2 points ago

I think any person would know that the examples he's using are for levity, but are poking fun at a larger issue in government.

Government wastes mass quantities of money on largely failed programs that are sold based on morality, not on success.

I think there are fairly reasonable arguments that a person paying 25% to 40% of their discretionary income on taxes to fund some guys healthcare that never put a dime into the public coffer, because he is illegal.

That's not unreasonable.

[–]Bipolarruledout 4 points5 points ago

Social programs are based on "morality" because free markets are not. If they were then there would be no poverty left in the world. Furthermore your definition of "success" is completely subjective. Conservatives ignore the fact that in every business transaction there's at least one sucker, the transaction is considered "successful" as long as the sucker doesn't know it's him.

[–]awe300 1 point2 points ago

I think there are fairly reasonable arguments that a person paying 25% to 40% of their discretionary income on taxes to fund some guys healthcare that never put a dime into the public coffer, because he is illegal.

That is a constructed point. The 25% to 40% are NEVER only for "some guys healthcare". Maybe a few % of that

That's not unreasonable.

How much are we going to bet that many people that oppose this also oppose federal food safety standards because "the market will fix it"?

How many of those are getting diabetes

[–]Cockdieselallthetime -2 points-1 points ago

Actually I work in the food industry, par the usual reddit, you are wrong.

It's really just a talking point to say that without the government food safety would be terrible, because it not true.

For example, governments dictate that in pitted cherries, A grade cherries must must have 1 pit (stone) in 40 oz. The industry demands that processors produce cherries with 1 and 360 oz for pits.

The reason being when people chew their cherry pie and chip a tooth, they go after the processor for the dental work. It's called a pit claim.

The same principles work in meats as the regulation for what is acceptable is extremely low for what customers demand.

It's been proven in just about every industry, the market regulates business 1000X more efficiently than any government could ever do.

Maybe you should actually inform yourself of these types of things.

[–]Bipolarruledout 2 points3 points ago

What you fail to consider is that it is because of that regulation that the customer even has a legal recourse to begin with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor

Without regulation the merchant is only implying that the product is what the customer intends it to be. In a court of law this is a significantly lowered standard with far less liability. It obligates the customer to prove what the product isn't rather than the merchant to prove what it is.

Without regulation competitors would quickly move in and undercut quality suppliers to the point that they would be forced to lower their quality in an economic "race to the bottom". It is regulation that promotes a "race to the top" insuring a minimum standard of quality.

Now if your standards are so much higher than the governments than why is this an impediment to your business unless of course your lying and barely meeting the standard?

[–]awe300 0 points1 point ago

Two examples, how fitting to cherry-pick. What was there before, the government regulation or the industry one?

What about proper labeling of ingredients? What about mishaps?

Just look at china to see what happens without proper food regulations.

Dead babies for everyone, yay

[–]Cockdieselallthetime -4 points-3 points ago

Your comment doesn't make grammatical sense. I don't know what you are saying.

What about proper labeling of ingredients?

Why does the government need 3.7 trillion for this?

[–]awe300 0 points1 point ago

What does the "3.7 trillion" pay?

[–]superfuzzy -2 points-1 points ago

But he will never be an illegal immigrant.

[–]Bipolarruledout 0 points1 point ago

He might be homeless. In fact statistically he will lose his job if employment continues to trend in the negative.

[–]deadly_designer 1 point2 points ago

This was posted yesterday by someone else..

[–]ultra_wedgieman 0 points1 point ago

repost

[–]schattenteufel -2 points-1 points ago

Looks like something an asshole teabagger would write.

[–]d3adbor3d2 -1 points0 points ago

those illegals i'm telling ya - every native american

[–]MeloJelo -1 points0 points ago

I think the guy might be English. Or maybe he's Canadian, in which case your comment still applies.

[–]gnomishmidgets 1 point2 points ago

did you really say Canadian? and might be English?.......Is canada in the European Union?

[–]stansteamer -1 points0 points ago

Oh cool we're literally re-posting things on reddit that are over a decade old and probably the first trappings of the hyper-conservative mindset that has sent our country into such decline? That's great, guys. Good work. Please continue up-voting that. Also if you could leave your e-mail I have some great FWD: FWD: FWD: material that you would apparently find absolutely hilarious.

[–]UnsungGentleman 0 points1 point ago

That was hilarious a few days ago when I saw it here.

[–]joelav -3 points-2 points ago

Oh republotards, you so crazy! I hope this dipshits realize more of your tax money goes to bail out billionaires (TARP) then to social programs.

[–]superfuzzy 2 points3 points ago

From wiki: "The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government.."

stopped reading right there. Sounds like a US problem, in this case totally unrelated.

[–]JamesFarthington -1 points0 points ago

Reminds me of the time my friend was banned from eHarmony for saying that "What he liked most in a woman was 'my dick'".

[–]tylerSisawesome 8 points9 points ago

By friend, you mean the random picture you saw once on the internet right?

[–]furman87 0 points1 point ago

This is not funny. That dude is a fucking idiot who is wasting more tax dollars by pissing away the time and money of the IRS. Kind of a douche actually.

[–]grinr 0 points1 point ago

... too much truth to process.

[–]TARDISeses -4 points-3 points ago

I trust this person will be quite satisfied paying for theirs and their families healthcare, no child support, no jobseekers when they dont have employment and much more? Eugh. Reminds me of two customers that came into my work, waited just 30 seconds in a queue and have a strop saying "Its not just 'ere, its the STATE OF THE COUNTRY". If they hate it, do summat about it or nark off. Everyones entitled to have a bad day, bad mood and have problems but some miserable middle-class whiners dont know how cosy they've got it sometimes.

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