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The best type of logic. (imgur.com)
submitted 22 hours ago by lealeaballerina
[–]Khuskan 91 points92 points93 points 16 hours ago
Why was this well-known image edited into a still from Futurama?
[–]Rorraparoosa 44 points45 points46 points 15 hours ago
Because 13-year olds.
[–]pyrostarr 2 points3 points4 points 15 hours ago
Thank you for posting this.. I couldn't even read the Op's post...
[–]owlsrule143 3 points4 points5 points 13 hours ago
I was wondering if I missed an episode or something..
[–]PackOfHighly 2 points3 points4 points 8 hours ago
Because it works and frames it in something popular.
[–]Khuskan 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
But it also falsely attributes the comic to the creators of Futurama...
[–]Adapt2Reason 0 points1 point2 points 17 minutes ago
irrelevant* and in his voice.
[–]japes28 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago
why does the second guy have a mad face even in the happy part
[–]NipplesOfDestiny 124 points125 points126 points 16 hours ago
Im positive this wasnt in futurama and if they wanted to make that joke, it'd be a lot more subtle.
[–]NapoleonBonerparts 96 points97 points98 points 15 hours ago
YOU CAN'T PROVE IT WASN'T!!!!!
[–]cran-apple 30 points31 points32 points 15 hours ago
Wtf...
[–]owlsrule143 10 points11 points12 points 13 hours ago
Well fucking played
[–]ShadowAssassinQueef 1 point2 points3 points 10 hours ago
clerks...
[–]owlsrule143 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
I would expect this in family guy
[–]brainflakes 27 points28 points29 points 15 hours ago
Farnsworth would never write "I has a baseball", it would be a "I've got a blernsball" obviously.
[–]kalmakka 19 points20 points21 points 16 hours ago
Hey, guys! Let us falsely attribute statements to sources in order to make them seem more legit!
[–]joyous_genitals 1 point2 points3 points 13 hours ago
...Futurama makes things more legit?
[–]ElCheffe 5 points6 points7 points 13 hours ago
Well it is from the future after all..
[–]every6accounts 5 points6 points7 points 10 hours ago
WELCOME, TO THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!
[–]Soulgee 1 point2 points3 points 7 hours ago
Shut up, Terry.
[–]CarlitX 12 points13 points14 points 15 hours ago
Now lets all take our favorite internet comics, put them into a cult hit TV cartoon screen shot and get 1000000000000s of karma.... Fucking karma whore.
[–]stupid_foreigner 6 points7 points8 points 16 hours ago
I don't see what this has to do with Futurama and Professor Farnsworth
[–]The_sweeps 47 points48 points49 points 18 hours ago
I wonder what the low res imgur link says. I bet it was funny!
[–]TSDMC 30 points31 points32 points 17 hours ago
Conventional Logic:
Guy 1: "I has a baseball" Guy 2: "Oh yeah? Prove it!" Guy 1: "Here!" Guy 2: "Ok, you're right!"
Religious Logic:
Guy 1: "I has a baseball" Guy 2: "Oh yeah? Prove it!" Guy 1: "YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT I DON'T" Guy 2: "WTF"
[–]Mad_Madam_Mim 0 points1 point2 points 17 hours ago
For PC this always helps me: ctrl +
It's a shortcut to zoom in moments like these.
[–]IPromiseImHuman 2 points3 points4 points 16 hours ago
ctrl + 0 to get it back to the original size
[–]chuckknucka 4 points5 points6 points 16 hours ago
Ctrl + Mouse-Wheel also works.
[–]Slightly_FTFY 10 points11 points12 points 16 hours ago
With Reddit Enhancement Suite you just expand the image. Then hold left click + move cursor down to enlarge.
[–]earldbjr 0 points1 point2 points 12 hours ago
I usually drag to the right :P
[–]DeFex 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
Yeah for some reason every time I finish using that I press the back button. It's quite annoying
[–]Mad_Madam_Mim 7 points8 points9 points 16 hours ago
http://i.imgur.com/r7VaQ.jpg
[–]YummyMeatballs 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
Also ctrl and 0 resets everything to the default zoom.
[–]Mike13815 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
For Windows 8: Having two fingers always helps me.
[–]Mad_Madam_Mim 2 points3 points4 points 10 hours ago
I'm sorry to hear. I have all 10 of mine and it's still a pain.
[–]ginx2666 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
Oh my, you must have very bad eyesight if you can't read this.
People had to forget that you can't have everything in HD. In past we hadn't, and still could read pretty much everything without problem.
[–]notsurewhatiam 3 points4 points5 points 14 hours ago
Crappy r/atheism continues to be crappy.
[–]Knuk 3 points4 points5 points 14 hours ago
DAE hates religion? lol religion is so dumb, we are way smarter than religious people!
[–]captain_jerkface 0 points1 point2 points 15 minutes ago
Except for eastern religions, those are cool and enlightened because whole foods.
[–]TheActualAWdeV 7 points8 points9 points 16 hours ago
When did this become a futurama gag?
[–]OMGBLACKPOWER 13 points14 points15 points 16 hours ago
It didnt
[–]TheActualAWdeV 2 points3 points4 points 15 hours ago
Good. It didn't look like one.
Which begs the question, why would someone put a fairly well-known (in /r/atheism) gag in a futurama still?
[–]OMGBLACKPOWER 1 point2 points3 points 11 hours ago
why for the karma, of course!
[–]TheActualAWdeV 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
Yeah, that works.
I misread your username as "omgblackpowder" though and thought this was a reply to a completely different comment elsewhere.
[–]dradam168 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago
Actually, it doesn't "beg the question."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
[–]GuatemalnGrnade -1 points0 points1 point 15 hours ago
You can't prove that religious logic is the best type of logic.
[–]moo_point 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
I'll just leave this here.
[–]Bennyboy1337 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
Are people upvoting this out of memory, or do they have the ability to read invisible pixles which do not exist?
I can't read this at all.
[–]LucasTheGreat 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
Actually, those are only types of logic if you go to community college. Here is some Aristotelian logic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
[–]Aries9 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
What do you say to people who aren't necessarily religious but spiritual and tell me I'm not open minded if I don't believe things they believe but have no proof for?
[–]Mr_Open_Minded -1 points0 points1 point 11 hours ago
Nailed it.
[–]AcidLuepert 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
Science is not a means by which anything can be proven.
[–]Simultanagnosia 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago*
It's not that comparable... a better comparison would be that the top panel protagonist says "Nature exists" and the antagonist says "prove it!"
In this case the protagonist is struck with a problem, if the antagonist is not able to identify nature already, there is nothing distinct that the protagonist can point to which is distinctively nature.
Most assuredly the protagonist can point to the baseball and say "that is part of nature" but he will not be pointing to it and saying "That is nature" or this would create the equivocation that Baseball = Nature and Nature = Baseball.
The protagonist must be able to show the antagonist that nature is a composite of all things which exist in nature. He may try using synonyms like existence, reality or universe. But if the antagonist is unfamiliar with these terms or chooses to be particularly difficult to prove his point, the protagonist must find another way to describe nature, such that its all-encompassing, omnipresent and omnipotent qualities are understood by hearing the word nature.
The protagonist may proffer "Nature is not any particular thing, it is all things. Nature is omnipresent, existing everywhere, it inheres in all things, all things being of nature itself." They may go further, becoming eerily like one who is professing a supernatural deity "Nature is that from which a thing originates, that within which it has its form, and that unto which it terminates. Nature is both beginning and end. Alpha and Omega" (Para. Aristotle, De Animalibus).
All this in an attempt to define what nature is. Which makes this a much closer comparison.
The task of the protagonist would be made exceptionally difficult if the antagonist suffered from my namesake "Simultanagnosia" or the inability to perceive objects as elements of a larger whole. In other words; the inability to see the forest for the trees.
[–]captisaac21198 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
I believe the pixels have showed me the truth to this image... Photoshop.
[–]monolyth 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago
This isn't really a solid argument, a baseball doesn't supernatural control of time and dimensions.
[–]Adapt2Reason 0 points1 point2 points 14 minutes ago
and neither did not abortion
[–]captain_jerkface 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago
In the real episode (Mars University, Season 1 Episode 11) the professor has just proven (by process of elimination) that the neutrino tastes like grape aid.
[–]lealeaballerina[S] 0 points1 point2 points 24 minutes ago
I did wonder also if it was just an edited picture, or a repost, I posted it anyway because it is great.
[–]Agnostic_Thomist -4 points-3 points-2 points 19 hours ago
Like we haven't all seen that cartoon a thousand times before.
[–]Satiricalsarcasm 13 points14 points15 points 18 hours ago
i know!
everything should be posted at once, and it should all be discussed at that day, so that we no one will ever post anything, ever
/s
[–]stutteringgeiser 0 points1 point2 points 16 hours ago
"Hey guys, I was just reading Harry Potter and look what I found. Looks like Hermione had it right all along."
[–]Dobbel 1 point2 points3 points 20 hours ago
wich episode?
[–]Antares42 29 points30 points31 points 20 hours ago*
I think I'm quite sure that's faked.
See here and then here.
[–]VerneAsimov 0 points1 point2 points 18 hours ago
Knowing the people on that show, I'd bet that that math isn't just random and actually means something.
[–]Antares42 1 point2 points3 points 18 hours ago
Yes, the diagram itself looks like a sort of Feynman Diagram with the paths replaced by "tubes" that show the boundaries of uncertainty.
As for the equation, Wikipedia says...
Astrophysicist David Schiminovich created both the equations and the diagram, based on "an equation that constrains the mass density of neutrinos in the universe".[4]
[–]Kai________ 0 points1 point2 points 18 hours ago
You think?
You know my friend.
[–]Antares42 0 points1 point2 points 17 hours ago
Well, let's put it this way, I didn't want to claim 100% certainty at first, but the evidence later turned out to be overwhelming.
Even though the comment isn't wasn't starred, I edited it twice to include the two sources.
...and now thrice to change the wording. :-)
[–]chimangolatino 0 points1 point2 points 17 hours ago
This is what i was looking for.
[–]saejinoh 1 point2 points3 points 16 hours ago
and here for original pic and here for the website.
I technically can't prove that I drew this for random thread on /b/ years ago as I never saved it to PSD but then I'm the guy who drew this so it must be true.
[–]Antares42 0 points1 point2 points 16 hours ago
Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to steal your traffic. Just google-imaged it and reported the first results. I like it, it conveys the double standard quite well.
[–]saejinoh 0 points1 point2 points 16 hours ago
It's quite alright. I wasn't implying anything. It was posted anonymously because of possible backlash at the time.
But then it got pretty big and reposted on reddit countless times. Face-palming myself for thinking it'd just get scorned and not really get any recognition...
[–]katzali -2 points-1 points0 points 19 hours ago
Still funny
[–]Antares42 13 points14 points15 points 19 hours ago
Oh, sure, but it was already funny without being inserted into a Futurama still. Doesn't quite fit their dry humor. What I like about Futurama is that they're not as heavy-handed as that comic.
[–]Notblackandwhite 1 point2 points3 points 16 hours ago
Great comedy is all about subtlety. This comic just kinda beats you over the head with its "joke"
[–]captain_jerkface 0 points1 point2 points 34 minutes ago
The episode the background was taken from is "Mars University," season 1 episode 11. The professor isn't saying anything about religion, he has some joke particle physics on the board and claims to have just proven that the neutrino tastes like grape aid.
[–]xanderpo 1 point2 points3 points 17 hours ago
The more you know!
[–]tkltangent 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
Why is this getting so many upvotes? :/
[–]demon1255 1 point2 points3 points 13 hours ago
This is a repost masked as a futurama repost.
Fucking wow.
[–]redditsmosthated -8 points-7 points-6 points 18 hours ago
Religious people are stupid. Upvotes to the left.
[–]Fleshgrinder 9 points10 points11 points 18 hours ago
Being illogical and irrational doesn't necessarily coincide with being stupid.
The problem with most of the religious is not a lack of intelligence, it's an over-reliance on emotion to make decisions.
See, they have an emotional connection to their belief structure. The idea of a godless universe literally scares them and they'd rather believe a pretty lie than the ugly truth.
It is fear, not stupidity, that drives their belief in God.
If they were simply stupid, we could easily manipulate them into non-belief.
We cannot, so we must accept the root cause of their problem and work on fixing that.
[–]herooftime94 0 points1 point2 points 16 hours ago
Replying to save this comment. I love it.
[–]redditsmosthated -4 points-3 points-2 points 18 hours ago
I understand all that, but this will be my troll account.
Fuck you.
[–]Fleshgrinder 4 points5 points6 points 17 hours ago
Troll with your main account dude.
Balls out and cock flapping for all to see.
[–]chimangolatino -3 points-2 points-1 points 17 hours ago
Religious people are stupid. Upvotes to the right. Problem?
[–]DizzyMarkFace -1 points0 points1 point 17 hours ago
You made it too obvious you were being sarcastic by writing Upvotes to the left, you could've been top comment by now, oh well.
[–]NiteShadeX2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 18 hours ago
DAE Carl Sagan?
[–]wallesdad -1 points0 points1 point 17 hours ago
..
Edit: wrong thread
[–]qua_omsa_lajeeone -2 points-1 points0 points 15 hours ago
I still don't understand why anything should manifest if there was never anything to begin with. Theists have the burden of proving God (I guess) but atheists have the burden of proving why a universe exists. There answer is as good as ours, when it comes down to it. The only difference really is the universe is obviously apparent and thus more worthy of an explanation, whereas God, not so much. God is our explanation for the universe, but the atheists are having a hard time finding a more "logical" alternative. Because really there is nothing logical about a universe existing for no apparent reason when there was literally nothing before it. Sure, Hawking and other atheists are developing scientific theories hand-tailored and specifically created to explain the feasibility of a Godless universe, but they are really still in the realm of... not fact, and might as well hold the same weight as the fables of old.
Christians did in fact have their proof of God, sorry He lived around 2,000 years ago, sometimes that's just life. You all could have personally met Jesus and saw the proof, it just wasn't your time. See, at least we can say that. It's not as crazy as "WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT." We just say, "sorry, you were too late." And historically speaking, we can back it up too.
[–]Roast_A_Botch 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago
By your logic I can prove every other religion exists. In the past people saw witches with their own eyes. They even had tests to prove they were witches. If you didn't claim science was folk tales, I'd be cool with you. I'm fine with people using religion to justify why they're on this earth. I have a problem with people who deny science as fact, and claim they can prove god exists with ancient stories. I can use the lord of the rings to prove hobbits exist.
[–]PTEHZA 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
I think you are looking at things wrong. Science does not need to explain "why" something happens. Only "how."
"Why" implies a purpose or a motive. Science has no obligation to determine either of those, nor does it assume that there is either.
Also:
And historically speaking, we can back it up too.
The evidence for historical Jesus is questionable at best. It's probably best to just leave this argument out when conversing with an atheist. To them, whether or not a man named Jesus existed 2000 years ago is really irrelevant to the point you are trying to make.
[–]IgorsEpiskais -7 points-6 points-5 points 17 hours ago
Couldn't read, downvote
[–]Muntberg -2 points-1 points0 points 12 hours ago
Lol guys, Futurama gets it right.
[–]RidleyOMalley 0 points1 point2 points 9 hours ago
WHEW. What a relief. I do not know how i can get through the day without a shot from a cartoon show reaffirming my opinion on the existence of a god. Almost as good as a meme too. Nothing says god isn't real more than subtitles on family guy, futurama, or the simpsons.
[–]aussy16 -7 points-6 points-5 points 16 hours ago
I think this is a bad example, because no sane person would ask you to prove you have a baseball when they can see it. Even if they did, I don't think a religious person would react like that.
[–]Kiba333 1 point2 points3 points 16 hours ago
I don't think a religious person would react like that.
Well you should take a look at the frontpage posts of r/atheism, because 90% of them are sadly examples for exactly that.
(Though i think/hope them not to represent the majority of religious people.)
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[–]brainflakes 1 point2 points3 points 15 hours ago
Yeah, that's so brave
[–]Garryfre -3 points-2 points-1 points 14 hours ago
There is a vast difference between faith and the blind credulity. Examples are wind, radiation, entrophy (The effects of time) and gravity. You can't see these proverbial "Baseballs" but you can infer their existance by their effects that can be observed.
Because of the hypocracy and intolerance of those claiming faith when all they have is blind credulity the very idea of faith has been given a bad name. The amazing organization of the the universe and genetics and the complexity suggest intelligent design way beyond our understanding of it. Unfortunately scientists who even suggest that the idea of "Intellegent Design" are blackballed and ridiculed as fools and cranks. The universe is not just a dry equation either as we can sense beauty thus suggesting that such a designer is also an artist.
Never has anyone created life from non living matter yet so many seem to accept that this particular evolutionary baseball exists without even asking to see it. Thus we now have the religion of Evolution.
The bible defines this faith as follows ... Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.
[–]Roast_A_Botch 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago*
We have tools to measure gravity, electricity, etc. Until you develop tools to measure god it is blind faith. Scientists have created basic life forms in a lab environment and we have many transitional fossils that prove mankind wasn't just willed into being. Creation scientists have an agenda and are almost always highly religious having a creationist background. Scientists are open to other possibilities. When they are unwilling to look at new information they are no longer scientists. There is no debate over whether evolution is fact, only the nuances of how it works.
[–]PTEHZA 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago
Evolution does not attempt to explain abiogenesis.
[–]DKN19 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Intelligent design has not:
A) explained any observation - God is not a satisfactory explanation for complexity because it raises more questions than it answers. What created god? That's where we come to special pleading (god isn't subject to causation... who decided that?). Also, god is not the only thing that can explain complexity. Evolution actually does it without resorting to a supernatural origin.
B) made testable predictions - This is where ID fails spectacularly.
[–]agmcleod -9 points-8 points-7 points 16 hours ago
<3 Futurama, so much gold.
[–]eddhall 2 points3 points4 points 16 hours ago
However awesome Futurama is, this was never in it
[–]IceKnight366 -7 points-6 points-5 points 15 hours ago
Atheist logic:
Atheist: "God does not exist." Theist: "Oh Yeah? Prove it." Atheist: "I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT! LMAO!!!" Theist: "And we're suppose to be the irrational one's?... Right..."
[–]HITLERS_NUTSACK 2 points3 points4 points 15 hours ago
Strawman. Read the FAQ.
[–]PoodleSnatch 1 point2 points3 points 6 hours ago
When a dead fascist's scrotum knows more about complex theological definitions than you, it's time to rethink your life.
[–]IceKnight366 -1 points0 points1 point 2 hours ago
Logic. Read a book
Read the FAQ. I have hah, they're wrong
[–]madhatta 1 point2 points3 points 15 hours ago
Which God?
[–]IceKnight366 -1 points0 points1 point 3 hours ago
Which ever one you are particularly saying doesn't exist. I'm not going to do the work for you, you decide.
[–]nermid 1 point2 points3 points 15 hours ago
Not only does atheism not posit that God does not exist, but the Burden of Proof is a very simple concept that you should Google.
Troll harder, next time.
[–]IceKnight366 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 hours ago
Yeah, your "New Atheism" which is just a lack of belief isn't even a belief, so why waste time talking about it? I'm talking about those who are actually courageous enough to make the claim that God does not exist. Which I'm sure you believe but try not to say so in public discourse like this on pain of having to provide evidence for such a claim. So your response really isn't relevant to what I said.
[–]nermid 0 points1 point2 points 9 hours ago
Who said anything about "New Atheism"? Atheism has always been the lack of belief in gods. It's in the name.
It's adorable that you're going to try to goad me into a position I don't hold because you don't think it's "courageous" enough.
Again, with the cute attempts to say that I'm really a strong atheist, because you can't think of any way to actually argue that I should believe in your God, just that I don't have evidence that your God doesn't exist.
Keep trying, sir! If you're too stalwartly lazy to read the FAQ, crapping your thoughts onto the Internet could eventually lead you to a convincing argument.
[–]IceKnight366 0 points1 point2 points 15 minutes ago
1) Then what is the position that, "God does not exist"? Shmathism? How do you differentiate between verificationism, agnosticism and what is normally called atheism? Atheism has always been defined your way? Please, stop joking around and act serious. If you want to differentiate between weak and strong atheists, fine, I don't care. But atheism, traditionally, is the belief that God does not exist.
2) I'm not trying to get you to admit to any position lol that's funny though. Why would I try and do that?
3) Who ever said that there is no evidence for God's existence and therefore you should believe in God?
It sounds like you just like to talk. As I said, your original point is irrelevant to what I said, so what is your point?
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[–]photograph-the-void -13 points-12 points-11 points 17 hours ago
There is more to life than logic and proofs.
[–]knightoice 4 points5 points6 points 17 hours ago
There is, but why bring it up? You could make that same post on anything on reddit that is being enjoyed. "There is more to life than (whatever is in the link here)"
[–]nargaque 2 points3 points4 points 16 hours ago
There is more to life than believing in what people 2000 years ago believed in.
[–]chuckknucka -2 points-1 points0 points 16 hours ago
Like, say, laughing at a funny comic from Futurama?
[–]photograph-the-void -2 points-1 points0 points 16 hours ago
It's so easy to hate.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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