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[–]ReaperPrincess 181 points182 points ago

So much sadness crammed into these little plastic men...

[–]shanoxilt 13 points14 points ago

/r/sadcomics might be for you.

[–]ReaperPrincess 3 points4 points ago

What makes you say that?

[–]TitusUMMS 58 points59 points ago

What's supposed to be happening in the bottom right panel?

[–]pm1001 91 points92 points ago

Broken vase, woman on her knees, soldier with fist clenched, pretty sure it's some sort of trauma induced domestic violence scene.

[–]ActuallyNot 62 points63 points ago

Is the imagery still this?

A painting of a broken pitcher was a common symbol of lost virginity and virtue ...

Because if it is, there's a reasonably brutal subtext that is in keeping with the others.

[–]chase2020 32 points33 points ago

That may make sense given that it looks like the womans hand is on her no no place

[–]boodabomb 0 points1 point ago

That's what I was originally thinking, but I'm still not sure.

[–]Ethosia -3 points-2 points ago

You're over-thinking it Copernicus.

[–]space_monster 25 points26 points ago

either that, or he just caught the density moth that broke his distraught wife's vase, and he's about to take it outside to the porch & release it, so it won't accidentally break any more of their ornaments. they are so clumsy.

[–]Sloppy1sts 14 points15 points ago

What the fuck is a "density moth."

[–]Eruonen 11 points12 points ago

I have no idea but didn't you just love his post?

[–]tigercore 8 points9 points ago

Probably some kind of space_monster

[–]jawathehutt 1 point2 points ago

I dont know why but this post just cheered me up a lot.

[–]dingomart 2 points3 points ago

No, it looks more like the interrogation of an Asian female, very "Platoon."

[–]vinfx 24 points25 points ago

It's a domestic abuse situation. You'll notice in each toy he's wearing his combat fatigues in post-war situations. The artist clothed him with fatigues to signify he's a soldier who cannot turn off the trauma of war. In his mind he is still a soldier at war even though the war is over and he's returned home.

[–]cumfarts 3 points4 points ago

just the green plastic would be enough to convey the army men thing

[–]vinfx 15 points16 points ago

It's far more powerful with him dressed as a soldier because it's illustrating an anachronism. He's out of place and time and can't re-integrate. It would have less emotional impact if he were wearing civvies.

[–]MagicPantsMachine 12 points13 points ago

See, this is rather interesting to me...the part about anachronism and soldiers that cannot reintegrate.

Remember Rambo (the first one)? Everyone thought it was such a great story. Reagan even gave a medal to Stallone for making the movies in the first place. But to me, Rambo was never a story about a mercenary or someone who glorified the aspects of war. It was a cautionary, haunting story about the soldiers who could never come back home, even when they were on American soil. Rambo was perpetually stuck in his own special hell, designed by the people who made him a killing machine. The violence of the movie itself was necessary, not because it glorified war, but because it cautioned against it.

Rambo is not and never was meant to be a hero at first. He was a terrible anachronism, born of tragedy and wrecked lives in the name of governmental policy.

[–]ucbiker 6 points7 points ago

That's pretty explicitly what First Blood is about.

[–]Ollikay 5 points6 points ago

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted here; I had considered the same thing actually. But after reading the comments here, I agree that it's likely inferring domestic violence.

[–]crankymole 0 points1 point ago

That's the first thing I thought of, too. Very Vietnam.

[–]virtyy 2 points3 points ago

I thought she fas shlicking.

[–]PantheraOnca 8 points9 points ago

I read this is a German accent.

[–]virtyy 5 points6 points ago

Looks like we both have trouble pushing the correct keys.

[–]PantheraOnca 3 points4 points ago

Haha, touché. I'm not even going to fix it.

[–]brickmastur 12 points13 points ago

PTSD would be my guess

[–]TitusUMMS 3 points4 points ago

Ah, that makes some sense.

[–]MadMadHatter 4 points5 points ago

I thought it was a solider informing a mother that her son didn't make it...

[–]CHAAAZZZZ 3 points4 points ago

Dinner not being ready.

[–]Look_You_Dumb_Shit 0 points1 point ago

I'm pretty sure it's a Vietnam reference. It looks like the scene where Barnes is kicking the shit out of the villagers in Platoon.

[–]InspireTheWorld -3 points-2 points ago

My guess is that its his wife who cheated on him while he was deployed.

[–]Bigsneakysnake 42 points43 points ago

That's so depressing

[–]cumfarts 22 points23 points ago

still better than the one with the radio

[–]theresaviking 14 points15 points ago

I had that motherfucker calling in mortar rounds.

[–]OldCrankyBastard 10 points11 points ago

He was always the first one to get hit with the Aquanet flamethrower.

[–]revolverzanbolt 7 points8 points ago

?

[–]Rapistsmurf 0 points1 point ago

That radio guy was fucking worthless. Did he even have a gun?!

[–]Brawny661 1 point2 points ago

War is depressing, and it's a shame we glorify the military so much.

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

Yea can you believe we glorify men and women who are willing to die for something they believe in

[–]distertastin 0 points1 point ago

Everyone I know who was in Iraq has nothing good to say about it or the military. Glorifying what they go through isn't the answer.

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

I have my problems with military and govt and there is no glory in war but there is glory in fighting for your beliefs.

[–]Brawny661 1 point2 points ago

No, you are still responsible for your own actions. It's very clear that our government is creating false wars and using the military to commit crimes across the world. It takes active effort to keep oneself in the "us vs them" mentality nowaday. Osama Bin Laden is deserving of exactly the same honor that our soldiers are. He was acting on his own beliefs. From his perspective, we were the terrorists, and he was willing to die for something he believed in.

[–]iNVWSSV 1 point2 points ago

looks like infantry guy downvoted you :(

must be drinking the army koolaid.

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

Wasn't me that downvoted and the koolaid tastes good

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

I have nothing but respect for the "enemy" who ever they are. Anyone military or not who fights for their beliefs I respect. All I ask is realize not all military is brain dead idiots who couldn't make it in college or in other jobs and just show some respect for the people who fight for freedoms either military or legal or however they fight.

[–]Brawny661 0 points1 point ago

who fight for freedoms

The last time freedoms were fought for was WW2, the last time American freedoms were fought for was by the Confederacy in the Civil War. Every administration since the 1950's has been using fearmongering to rally support for taking away freedoms such as right to a trial (Obama's kill list, Guantanamo Bay), no heinous torture (Gbay), a speedy trial (NDAA), right to privacy (Patriot Act + extensions, TSA searches/patdowns), etc. No one currently serving in the military has the excuse of fighting Nazis. They're serving a few big wigs who make money selling weapons, and to voluntarily support that, and think they deserve some sort of praise or repsect counts as brain dead in my book.

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

I was talking about people who fight for freedoms in the courtrooms or on the street or however they choose to fight for what they believe in. Just as you believe I am brain dead.

[–]iNVWSSV -1 points0 points ago

good luck for when you come back injured and the VA wants to fuck you. i'm in school with a buddy who was shot in the fucking head and the chest, and the army only wanted to give him 80% retirement benefits.

after about 6 months of arguing and repeatedly re-applying paperwork, they agreed to give 100%. I think that's a damn shame. here's a guy who volunteered for his country, but he has to struggle when he comes back to get what he deserves.

i will strongly encourage my kids to avoid the military at all costs. what's more patriotic, going to war for a group of powerful industrialists, or doing what's best for the country and avoiding armed conflict... hmmmm, tough choice.

thanks for your service, but you'd better hope that you dont get injured, b/c uncle sam doesnt have your best interests at heart.

[–]infantry4life 0 points1 point ago

The army wanted to give him 80 or the VA? And I am going through the medboarding process. I am fighting now for every dime I can. I gave 8 years of my life to the army been to Iraq and Afghanistan. I watched my first born grow up on YouTube and skype. I know that military chews people up and doesn't care for them. And I don't want my sons in military either.

[–]Firewind 33 points34 points ago

A good friend of mine spent the better part of 6 weeks guarding a depot full of Cobalt-60 while in Iraq. The building it was in wasn't sealed, and the material was open to the air. They didn't explain the danger he might be in or instruct him on any precautions he needed to take. They just gave him a dose meter at the beginning of the day and had him turn it in at night. The only clue something was even remotely serious was when at the end of the 6 weeks another group came in with full protective gear to move it.

He has no clue how bad his exposure was and there were no visits to a doctor afterward. Of course now that he wants to get everything checked out he has no money and the VA is backed logged the better part of year processing new claims.

[–]moongnawer 24 points25 points ago

The claims department of the VA and the medical treatment are two separate entities that work together on occasion. Please inform your friend that he is entitled to VA medical & dental examinations within one year of ETS. Anything found during those examinations, they are obligated to treat/fix.

For future records and safe-keeping, I suggest he obtain his medical & personnel records and keep 2 copies on hand at all times. (The VA will ask for one copy, which is bull, because the DoD sends them a copy during your out-processing, but no sense in fighting it, just have a copy ready.) The records of duty station and activities while deployed will be important when he is required to provide proof of his claim later.

The current administration is much better about pushing this stuff through and scolding about backlogs. Plus they've given the go to hire more people. You should have seen the mess it was from '01-'09. Despite all the improvements and the progress they're making with service members exposed to Agent Orange there is still a lot of foot dragging. I get the feeling their first steps are to ask for endless paperwork & pull hurry up and waits just so the exhausted ones give up. Then your time limit expires and you're stuck.

DAV (Disabled American Veterans) will help, free of charge, even if he isn't disabled or a member. You can find a local office here: http://www.dav.org/veterans/NSOffices.aspx

That said, if you're looking for a charity to throw a few extra bucks to, what these people do is golden.

tl,dr Tell him to get on that! DAV will represent him for FREE. (Yes, he should have a local VA rep, but I would still use DAV!) He needs his records. Tell him to get on that, too. And never miss one of the VA's review appointments.

[–]danintexas 6 points7 points ago

Do this! I didn't and I am fuckzord. I was 'volunteered' for gas mask testing. Ever since that day my lungs have been fucked - asthma all the time and I get pneumonia/bronchitis nearly every year.

[–]FHatzor 5 points6 points ago

If you have a disability that can be attributed to your service, then you are not fucked. Go see the DAV.

[–]moongnawer 1 point2 points ago

I doubt that 'gas mask guinea pig' is listed in your records anywhere, but DAV might still be able to help you out. Particularly if you received treatment for those breathing problems while in service.

Of my current DAV chapter, I'm the only one who was medically retired. The rest of them completed a regular ETS and used their medical records to file claims and receive compensation after the fact. Claims for asthma, high blood pressure, arthritis are all completely acceptable and pretty normal.

[–]vvvvvvvvvvirtualhead 2 points3 points ago

Thank you so much for saying this. Both my parents work for the VA and they try as hard as possible to make sure that soldiers and veterans get the compensation they deserve and strive to give them more than just that.

[–]moongnawer 1 point2 points ago

Tell your parents that I said thank you. They rock. Really.

Many a time I've been frustrated, as have many other veterans, but Veterans Affairs does the best they can with the resources they have been provided. It's sometimes easier to blame the person on the other end of the line, or behind the desk than recognize the workload that they're under.

And there has been some amazing progress made in regards to facility & equipment upgrades and programs offered. Efficiency has improved. Not to mention all of the services that the VA offers outside of medical care and home loans. MyhealtheVet is still pretty terrible, but it's better! :D

The dedication of people like your parents makes all of that happen. I also have to throw a little credit to General Shinseki, but I'm also completely biased, because I think he's a great leader.

[–]vvvvvvvvvvirtualhead 1 point2 points ago

I shall tell my parents that moongnawer says thank you.

I don't understand much about the system, but I know that it can be drawn out and stressful.

I actually read the comments to say that the top right picture really bugs me. Because the VA does help, and many of the 'veterans' on the street aren't actually veterans. They're bums that exploit the soft spot Americans have for Veterans. My father stops, explains to them what the VA is, and even gives them a number to call for help when he sees them. Then he calls their bluff and says that what they're doing is sickening.

Thank you, though, for putting your life on the line for people that do shit like this, sir.

[–]moongnawer 0 points1 point ago

Firstly, you're very kind, but there is no reason to thank me, and I'm not a sir (enlisted, female.)

Secondly, your father is clever and I think he takes the best course of action. You don't want to abandon those who may be in need, but no one wants to be taken advantage of either.

As for the process, it is a drag, not so much difficult as it is tedious. You fill out paperwork and you wait. They have questions, you fill out more paperwork, have an appointment for examination scheduled and wait some more. My initial rating took 4 months (I think they have a maximum time limit of 180 days for review, but it's been so long, I can't remember) and compensation backdated to the initial date I filed. Because I was medically retired, I was given severance pay from the Army which meant several months worth of VA compensation went directly to the DoD to reimburse them for my severance, mostly because they're jerks. :) (I think this process was changed after someone with political connections complained.)

Once someone receives a rating, it's more a matter of finding out what benefits they're eligible for and what they can do about it. There are many benefits that any veteran is eligible for, whether they were injured or not. It's just a matter of talking to someone.

As you already know, VA reps are incredibly helpful and often are veterans themselves (there are always a few that have no idea what is going on, but they're pretty rare and not something exclusive to the VA anyway.)

One can appeal their VA rating something I chose not to do at the time; mainly because I was mad at the world, tired, and just wanted to be done. Mostly, I was dumb.

It was a pretty big mistake, but one that was solely my fault.

Later on, whether you were dumb like me or are just having more issues, you can initiate what is called a 'fully developed claim'; basically requesting a rating increase because your condition has worsened or new evidence has come to light.

I submitted one in August and received a response requesting more information just a few days ago. A decision could be made by the end of October.

The hardest part is getting started. The second hardest part is driving on.

[–]dickwhistle -3 points-2 points ago

Of course now that he wants to get everything checked out he has no money and the VA is backed logged the better part of year processing new claims.

Please inform your friend that he is entitled to VA medical & dental examinations within one year of ETS. Anything found during those examinations, they are obligated to treat/fix.

[–]moongnawer 0 points1 point ago

I think you might be pointing out what you see as a contradiction in VA backlog and VA medical treatment. There is a backlog of claims, it used to be much, much worse and they are doing the best they can with the resources provided.

Medical care is a separate entity.

I can call my local VA clinic (the hospitals usually have clinics, too) and get an appointment. If I'm sick, they'll see me tomorrow or the day after (okay, it's Friday, so they'll see me Monday or Tuesday.)

If it's a 'well' appointment, it might be a week or two - it depends on how many sick veterans they're seeing. A run of the mill 'my doctor is curious, there's no emergency' MRI or xray will get you an appointment about a month away.

Take in a copy of your DD-214 and they should be able to guide you through. Or just call in, and I bet they'll still walk you through. (Check out va.gov also) You probably won't get a walk-in appointment that day (Mondays tend to be busy, mornings are better than lunchtime, my local clinic does labwork on Tuesday, so avoid if possible.)

I would love to tell you about dental (also offered to any service member using VA education benefits) but I was never able to get them to answer the phone or return my call. ಠ_ಠ

[–]ham-n-cheese 2 points3 points ago

I would strongly advise seeking the assistance from a VFW, American Legion, AmVets... etc. service officer. Most posts will have someone who will work with your friend and the VA to help get things rolling a little bit faster.

I was told I would have to wait months to get in for a rating, but the VFW volunteers got me in for medical care and was rated much faster than it would have been had I been the only one fighting for it.

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[–]Rising_Anthony 27 points28 points ago

for that price, I'd expect them to start out as regular toy soldiers, slowly put through the horrors of a toy war, slowly destroying their little plastic spirits and minds, until they finally reach their current stage. That, or the damn figures be made out of reconstituted $100 dollar bills. Seriously, wtf?

[–]prisoner42 4 points5 points ago

all you need is a 3D printer why do these cost so much?

[–]1199 12 points13 points ago

art

[–]unholymackerel 0 points1 point ago

damn that guy

[–]robbie_rob27 77 points78 points ago

It's sad but because it's true.

[–]MentalRaid 12 points13 points ago

No. It's sad because that's the way many civilians want to believe most or all veterans are.

The truth is much less dramatic.

Are there soldiers that come home with disabilities? Sure.

Are there soldiers that come home with emotional issues? Of course.

But most get out, do their thing and are fine. Many are even quietly proud of their service and don't live this life of regret that many think we should. I could fill buckets with society's misconceptions about military service; both in combat and garrison.

I think you might be surprised to find out who around you has served. Many now simply keep it quiet; choosing to be judged on his/her current and relevant accomplishments rather than rest on the laurels of their past service.

That's just my 2 cents.

Don't be so quick to categorize people into neat little groups. Not nearly all of us fit these dramatic little moulds you folks create.

[–]loondawg 18 points19 points ago

A staggering 45 percent of the 1.6 million veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are now seeking compensation for injuries they say are service-related.

Source

[–]Rudefire -1 points0 points ago

yeah, its fucking war dude. that's what happens when you go to war. and service related injuries can be anything. ringing of the ears, headaches. anything. that number is so skewed.

[–]pm1001 6 points7 points ago

FTA -

Of those who have sought VA care:

*More than 1,600 of them lost a limb; many others lost fingers or toes.

*At least 156 are blind, and thousands of others have impaired vision.

*More than 177,000 have hearing loss, and more than 350,000 report tinnitus – noise or ringing in the ears.

*Thousands are disfigured, as many as 200 of them so badly that they may need face transplants. One-quarter of battlefield injuries requiring evacuation included wounds to the face or jaw, one study found.

*Others have invisible wounds. More than 400,000 of these new veterans have been treated by the VA for a mental health problem, most commonly, PTSD.

So you're right, tinnitus is a problem, but the biggest problem is still PTSD.

[–]Rudefire 1 point2 points ago

PTSD is a problem. But I've known more people that claim it simply for a higher disability percentage than people that actually suffer from it. By far.

[–]infantry4life 1 point2 points ago

Yea that's why it clogs the system.

[–]Rudefire -2 points-1 points ago

Exactly, hard to prove.

[–]Noobymcnoobcake 1 point2 points ago

Often the people who really need the help with mental problems don't go and get it

[–]Rudefire 0 points1 point ago

Overwhelmingly so.

[–]loondawg 3 points4 points ago

How is the number skewed? It seems like a fairly straight-forward statistic to me. Receiving compensation requires a real, service related problem be present. I think it clearly shows that only a small majority are fine, not most. If most were fine, there would not be so many requesting compensation for injuries.

MentalRaid posted that most get out and do their thing and are fine. That statistic shows nearly half come home damaged in some way that merits seeking compensation for their injuries. That sounds a bit far from fine to me.

And you're right. It's fucking war dude. War sucks because it is designed to do bad things to people. That is exactly what that statistic shows.

[–]Bestwick 1 point2 points ago

Perhaps, we've come on in leaps and bounds in treating physically wounded service men. But, mentally, they're screwed; and we don't know how to fix it. We have soldiers returning from battle who are addicted to war and nothing else will console them.

[–]unholymackerel 2 points3 points ago

The U.S. does a pathetic job of providing health and mental care for those who served.

[–]infantry4life 1 point2 points ago

The person has to want help also. A lot of soldiers are to proud to get help tell its too late sometimes.

[–]pussynik -3 points-2 points ago

Thank you for speaking for those who've served.

[–]khaddy 20 points21 points ago

They should also have the tan side, which could include bombed civilians, people kidnapped and tortured by various war of terror agents, etc.

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[–]RedBirdinTX 8 points9 points ago

Okay, what stats are you using?

[–]hippie_hunter 6 points7 points ago

Until recently active-duty military personnel had a lower rate of suicide than the general population.

A rather large chunk of homeless men claiming to be veterans are plain full of shit. It's not uncommon to see middle aged men wearing camouflage patterns they were far to old to have been issued.

[–]moongnawer 9 points10 points ago

So wouldn't a key part of your argument be against Stolen Valor types and not the people who see them/want to help them as an act of kindness?

May as well throw in all of those fake military charities while we're at.

As far as suicides go, I'm going to be a bit more transparent and say I really don't give a rat's behind about civilian suicides.

When suicide is the second leading cause of death (since 2010) among active-duty troops, because the signs were there, but no one did anything because they didn't want to jeopardize Joe's chance at promotion, or make the unit look unstable, or just figured he was malingering... that's a failure of leadership. Safety measures were put in place to prevent these losses and these guys are slippin' through.

We have got to get these guys in real treatment. They're showing up for one meeting, refusing to talk about anything. Show up for one doctor's appointment and are disillusioned before they leave. We're losing them to self-medication and suicide even when the safety nets are in all the right places. Because treatment is seen as weakness, or because it jeopardizes any military career they may want to have. I don't know.

But don't fool yourself into thinking those absolutely brutal little figures are telling lies. I see too much of that pain. I can't afford 'em, but I will keep pictures of them. To remember why this is so important.

Apologies if I came off as overly aggressive. Any anger in this post wasn't directed at you, nor was it even anger. I am frustrated by the helplessness of the situation. Civilian suicides are important, too. But not like this, not to me.

[–]Capncorky 3 points4 points ago

I really don't give a rat's behind about civilian suicides.

Ummm....

Civilian suicides are important, too. But not like this, not to me.

Oh, ok. Gotcha now. As some who is surrounded by mental illness both professionally and personally, I was a bit bothered by that first statement. Both civilian & military suicides can be prevented better. But I agree, currently there is a strong trend of suicides in the military that could have been prevented, but weren't due to a number of reasons you touched on. PTSD is also becoming more common in the military, and that has a terrible lasting effect, even if the soldier makes it home.

I personally think we need more attention on mental illness, both on civilians and military personnel.

[–]moongnawer 0 points1 point ago

My statement certainly could have been worded better and there are absolutely many more factors at play than I indicated, but I think the stigma attached to mental illness and the treatments (e.g. 'head shrinks', talk therapies, anti-depressants) is still deeply ingrained in the military culture. Silly as it sounds, there was one guy, just mad at the world, paranoid, the fits of rage -- but he would not go to the doctor and they didn't want a forced eval on him. Finally, it was mentioned that maybe it wasn't PTSD or anything like that, maybe it was anxiety. For whatever reason, anxiety was less scary than PTSD or any of those other "you're crazy" diagnoses and he sought treatment.

But, yeah, I agree with everything you said and defer to your wisdom.

[–]Capncorky 1 point2 points ago

Thanks, I could tell it was an emotional topic for you.I think the stigma comes from it being seen as weakness if you need help with your emotions controlling you. Obviously, neurology being what it is, it's not a matter of weakness, it's a matter of neurons firing in ways that can really ruin a person's life. I can see the need to yell at someone who has anxiety on the battlefield because that can really interfere with the situation. But off the battlefield, these issues must be addressed.

And I wish people would realize there is no such thing as "crazy", medically speaking.

[–]RedBirdinTX 6 points7 points ago

Well the studies you are referring to are actually active or reserve members, not the homeless population you are referring to. This is supported by the BBC and published by the VA. You should really check your facts before you marginalize a problem you haven't properly researched.

[–]tm0g 5 points6 points ago

You mean some Vietnam veterans aren't wearing the same clothing they were issued 40-50 years ago? Yup that makes them all frauds.

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[–]phyreseed 3 points4 points ago

You have a point, but basing an assessment off of appearances is almost certain to lead you to some mistakes, somewhere down the road. I still have some of my original camo gear, but I also buy up the occasional new piece when I see a good deal - if I were homeless, your conclusions would lead you to believe I'm a big faker, when in fact I'm not.

[–]loondawg 2 points3 points ago

A staggering 45 percent of the 1.6 million veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are now seeking compensation for injuries they say are service-related.

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[–]Rathwood 9 points10 points ago

Wow. That IS offensive. Well done.

[–]Gabenisafatasshole 27 points28 points ago

As someone who served in Afghanistan and grew up playing with those types of toys, this broke my heart.

[–]dorian_gray11 6 points7 points ago

Could you explain more why this had such an impact? I'm curious to get a contemporary serviceman's reaction to art like this.

[–]Gabenisafatasshole 8 points9 points ago

I'm finding it hard to put into words..

When i was a child i used to love playing with these toy soldiers. I would bring them anywhere. I brought them to the beach to guard the big sand castles i would make, I brought them to the Cottage to patrol the epic forests and jungles they would encounter. Never was there more of a battle ground than the kitchen table while the defended the house from the imperial Tan Army. If they were to "die", they would merely fall on there side, only to be resurrected during my next "war".

As a young boy, they were my way of having an innocent adventure of playing a "war game" that i was too young to understand what the consequences would be if it were a war involving real people.

I loved these soldiers. They were my adventure and innocence.

2008 i was sent to Kandahar Afghanistan. I'm no longer a young boy that has no idea what the consequences of war could be. Its real, it's close, and it's everyday. For nine months.

Patrols, convoys, close protection, camp protection, revolving responsibilities and duties that were carried out every day. The only thing that made it bearable were the men in my section. Men who i would do anything for, lay down my life if it really had to. They were now my real life Toy Soldiers protecting me from the "evil tan army" if you wanted to put it that way. I was fighting along side them.

We lost three men overseas, all from one roadside bomb as well as countless roadside bombs. I never cried as much as that night once everything had calmed down. I closed the shower curtain and cried and cried and cried. Then 10 hours later i was back out on patrol, we had to continue the job.

We made it home at the end of May, right after the great recession of 2008. There were no civilian jobs for us. We left the desert, but the desert never truly left us. A year later, I'm rushing to my friends house after he called m saying he was going to kill himself. He didn't. I was able to get to him in time before he could do something to harm himself.

I had nightmares, ones that i would just deal with, breakdowns in closed rooms that no one will ever know about. And a DEEP, DEEP urge to go back in time and be back in the desert with my soldiers, my men. I missed that true camaraderie. I missed that indescribable feeling of loyalty and courage.

Back in Canada, flash forward two years. Gunshots were heard in the armories. After a search of the entire armories, we find him. One of the men who just came back, took his own life in a tucked away classroom. His equipment laid out inspection ready in front of him, only being able to identify him by his name tags.

I fell into the deepest depression yet, i couldn't help but think of what was going through his mind, having the courage to pull that trigger, did he know the effect it would have on others? Was he absolutely sure there was no other way out? I think of my other friend who was in the same position a year earlier.

But i move on, i suck it up, the only people i can talk to about it are the men that served with me. No one else would understand, no matter how willing or hard they tried. My wife got me through alot as well.

When i saw those pictures of my toy soldiers, going through the harsh realities of war and death, it broke my heart. Seeing the green soldier with a gun in his mouth i was horrified, the one with no leg, the one in poverty, all of these pictures struck me so deeply.

Here are the men of my childhood, my brave soldiers that fought in so many playful theaters of "war" for me. With no consequence. Because they were just toys. Now they were covered in the scars of reality from the wars that i put them through.

The artists brought a soul to these men, and turned the innocence of them inside out, shoving the deepest scars of reality and putting them into a form that touched me in a way i never thought something so... minor? Could.

It felt good writing this, ignore my user name as its just meant for people to go "wtf?" but hopefully i just answered your question on why this image affected me so much. If i were to tell people one thing, enjoy your life. Enjoy

every second of it.

EDIT: Spelling and Grammar

[–]Izicata 1 point2 points ago

Damn. I don't think I'll ever be able to completely empathize with what you went through, but I'm saddened by you went through.

Also none of the Is in your last five paragraphs are capitalized.

[–]spgtothemax 0 points1 point ago

Wow you should be a writer.

[–]dorian_gray11 0 points1 point ago

I really want to thank you for taking the time to answer my question, that was a really moving read. I never served in the military, but I as well played with the toy soldiers like you did (like reenacting the Normandy landings in my sandbox) and I loved as a child building model airplanes and hanging them from my ceiling (here's a picture of my old room, I built a lot). The part where you said:

As a young boy, they were my way of having an innocent adventure of playing a "war game" that i was too young to understand what the consequences would be if it were a war involving real people.

I loved these soldiers. They were my adventure and innocence.

That really got to me. I still love building model airplanes, but as a child they were part of the fun innocent "war game", which was also in part my personal way of idolizing/worshiping the military. I learned when I was 6 about WW2, and it was presented to me as the ultimate battle of good vs evil; our boys going off to save the day from those Nazis. Now when I build the planes, I do so knowing their primary reason for existing is to kill people and to cause massive physical and emotional damage. Until relatively recently I didn't know how complex all wars really are, and the incredible damage they cause. We all hear about the deaths of civilians and soldiers but not so much about resulting Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (I hate that euphemism, they called the same thing "Shell Shock" in WW1 and I think it is much more effective at communicating the damage and pain). This art piece indeed shows the hidden pain that these iconic soldiers actually suffer through day in and day out in a simple, direct way. There is no way I can understand that pain, and I hope more people take your advice to enjoy every second of their lives; it is easy to take things for granted.

The real reason I asked that question though is because I am also an artist, and I also deal with similar issues in my work that this piece addressed. I always worry though about the reaction of servicemen, because I in no way wish to be disrespectful to them. When you said "this broke my heart" I wasn't sure to interpret that as it deeply moved you or if it offended you, I'm relieved it was the former.

Thanks again for the reply. I'm glad it felt good to write all of that, and I hope eventually things get easier. Your post was so honest and articulate; it will no doubt influence my own beliefs and my art.

[–]DeskPilot 3 points4 points ago

Legitimate question. I think it comes from personifying a near-faceless toy. One has to offer part an unsegregated part of his personality to bring it to life... just watch boys play with toy soldiers or matchbox cars, and between the mouthed explosion noises, there's a lot of dialogue that includes the word, "I."

[–]Riederbirk 17 points18 points ago

As a military member I find this extremely depressing and true.

[–]keepmathy 4 points5 points ago

Not very WTF. More like "welp, that sucks".

[–]mjm8218 3 points4 points ago

WTS.

[–]Keiokochan 8 points9 points ago

Well, that just made Toy Story a hell of a lot more depressing.

[–]Scarzig 8 points9 points ago

Very poignant.

[–]StickSauce 4 points5 points ago

Vaguely reminds me of "Born on the fourth of July"

[–]Mule2go 1 point2 points ago

Oh yeah. Whenever you think your life is shit, watch that movie.

[–]Cubcake1 6 points7 points ago

I have no shame in saying, if I was deployed 3 or 4 times as some of these boys were, I would have used my G.I. Rifle to blow my brains out. The reality of war and violence is inconceivable to most. Although I havnt ever reached bottom, it was in eyesight, it is a dark place that is hard to explain.

[–]Poopy188 0 points1 point ago

I thought the bottom left guy was playing a flute, at first glance. Then it got real.

[–]whiteknight95 0 points1 point ago

This makes me worry about my dad. He seems normal every since he came back. I know for a fact that he saw and did alot of things though. Are there any telltale signs I should keep an eye out for?

[–]infantry4life 1 point2 points ago

Nope. We can hide it as good as anyone. Just remember some see a lot and don't really have a problem. So he might be "ok"

[–]freakzilla149 0 points1 point ago

What's happening in the last one?

[–]Ampix0 0 points1 point ago

Broke a bowl over his wife's head and is yelling at her.

[–]LvL87BalloonWizard 0 points1 point ago

What's the last one doing?

[–]mjm8218 -1 points0 points ago

If you bottom right, I'd say he's "preparing to rape an old woman."

[–]LvL87BalloonWizard -1 points0 points ago

Oh OK! Thanks, I did bottom right.

[–]nickateen 4 points5 points ago

Bottom on the left:

"I AM. IN A WORLD. OF SHIT."

[–]Barzano 2 points3 points ago

Nice one, that movie was a two in one

[–]BDandC -1 points0 points ago

This is too sad

[–]abnormalbrain 2 points3 points ago

MAD Magazine did this in like, 2005... http://abnormalbrain.bizland.com/greenarmymen.jpg

[–]Bee_In_Da_Trap 0 points1 point ago

What's going on in the top right picture?

[–]dnew 5 points6 points ago

He is homeless and begging.

[–]TunakOne 3 points4 points ago

Looks like a soldier who has come back from war with his left hand amputated. Presumably can't find work now, and is reduced to asking people for spare change hence the helmet filled with coins.

[–]Ska-jayjay 0 points1 point ago

Grim.

[–]tinyant 0 points1 point ago

They contrast to starkly with the typical GI Joe action figures, showing wholesome soldiers, all packaged in Can-do! Yes Sir! type of graphics. It's the other side of the coin, the reality we generally try to hide.

[–]DoctorSteve -1 points0 points ago

The maker of this was aiming for wtf. You're basically feeding the trolls.

[–]Dud3wtf 1 point2 points ago

Still better than the ones with a mine detector or the ones with the radio.

[–]lethalweapon100 0 points1 point ago

It's extremely sad how true this is.

[–]Rickku 0 points1 point ago

OMG.. I'm going to Hell for this but that's the funnest thing I've seen on r/WTF for a while!

[–]mrmtso 0 points1 point ago

Wife beating so true

[–]shipman -1 points0 points ago

What is supposed to be happening the top right corner? I'm feeling really dense today...

[–]freedom_surfer 1 point2 points ago

People are posting that it is a soldier begging and that's change in his helmet. As a vet I thought it was some dude who poured cut up MRE frankfurters from the pouch into the helmet and had some of the juice on his hand, which upset him. Begging makes a little more sense.

[–]Brawny661 1 point2 points ago

This isn't WTF, this is actual art in a time of shit-on-a-canvas.

[–]BuhBuhBillbert -1 points0 points ago

I think this is kind of fucked up. I mean I understand it, it just kills my childhood a little bit.

[–]ihateafg -1 points0 points ago

I wish I could down vote this more.

[–]Bobscandy -1 points0 points ago

I laughed my ass off

[–]bretterson109 0 points1 point ago

Great, now that shitty Martika song is in my head.

[–]wilsonics 0 points1 point ago

[–]earthisboobies 0 points1 point ago

hurr what a subtle and incisive commentary on the trauma of war, might as well forget about all quiet on the western front now

[–]frogsickle 0 points1 point ago

I WANT TO BUY THESE!

[–]Vodiodoh 0 points1 point ago

Co signing.

Where can i buy these?

[–]gvto -2 points-1 points ago

Some of my favourite art pieces. But I highly doubt they belong in WTF.

[–]klinonx -1 points0 points ago

Oh my feels...

[–]macmac13 -1 points0 points ago

Lieutenant Dan!!!

[–]Dead_Politician -5 points-4 points ago

solid wtf-material. Thank you sir.

[–]MalcomEx -3 points-2 points ago

Crymore Toys Inc.

[–]prismaticbeans -2 points-1 points ago

This is even more sad to me than if it had been a photograph of living people...

[–]Bearmaster9013 -2 points-1 points ago

I dont quiet see whats going on in the bottom right...

[–]youknowwhosucks -2 points-1 points ago

LIEUTENANT DAN!!! ICE CREAM!

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[–]mjm8218 1 point2 points ago

Suicide rates among vets are much higher than the population at large.

[–]Sloppy1sts 0 points1 point ago

"7.62 mm. Full metal jacket."

[–]charlie145 -1 points0 points ago

I really feel for the guy in the bottom right, I know I always want to smack someone when they break my Easter egg

[–]ophello -2 points-1 points ago

That was depressing.

[–]miaomiao 0 points1 point ago

Full Metal Jacket

[–]jevmorgan -2 points-1 points ago

Am I the only one who thinks there's way too much green plastic underneath these guys? I mean, that stuff is only there to make sure that they stand up in the first place, and they usually use as little as possible while still keeping the figurine stable.

[–]DoctorHeadshot -2 points-1 points ago

WAR IS BAD AND AMERICANS SHOULD FEEL BAD

[–]phyrewall 0 points1 point ago

IAMA a disabled OIF Veteran, AMA.

This is some very powerful art, in my eyes. I had a hard time looking at this, but at the same time, I know this needs to be shown. Hopefully some people will take away a little respect for what Vets go through. (You don't have to support war to support troops.)

[–]bakemonster -4 points-3 points ago

lol