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[–]DarnJester99 333 points334 points ago

Thanks for posting my joke :) Just a heads up, this is cross posted in /r/standupshots.

[–]Wonspur 61 points62 points ago

Just found my cousins reddit account.

[–]DarnJester99 79 points80 points ago

He did, we are cousins. Confirmed.

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points ago

Arent you afraid your cousin will go through all of your comments and found out about your deep hatred for negros?

[–]SupSatire 35 points36 points ago

Or your r/ladybonersgw posts?

[–]redsavage0 16 points17 points ago

Separate accounts man. Separate accounts.

[–]raver459 7 points8 points ago

Shh!

[–]buttsac 7 points8 points ago

Or a story about how you two used to wrestle?

[–]R3PTILIA 5 points6 points ago

ok, now how the fuck do i post this in karmaconsipracy?

[–]SanchoDeLaRuse 5 points6 points ago

Like this, cous!

[–]dannyboylee 4 points5 points ago

The universe is an egg.

[–]cethiN 2 points3 points ago

HOLY SHIT IT'S MY BROTHER!

[–]Wonspur 2 points3 points ago

confirmed.

[–]DarnJester99 3 points4 points ago

Double confirmed, they are both my cousins, and they are brothers. Impromptu Reddit family reunion.

[–]DCAnimatedUniverse 78 points79 points ago

Thanks for not being an asshole about it.

[–]Theemuts 36 points37 points ago

Unless it's posted to 9gag, then we redditors will support being an asshole about it.

[–]b0w3n 8 points9 points ago

Hmm, not sure if predation assumes evolution/natural selection as a precursory theorem.

...I'm that guy aren't I?

[–]Xenonym 1 point2 points ago

On /r/atheism, everyone's "that guy".

[–]MegaZambam 1 point2 points ago

Considering only one person mentioned it, not really.

[–]b0w3n 0 points1 point ago

I'm surprised I was the only one to be honest.

[–]chipfox 7 points8 points ago

thanks for the heads up. i feel more comfortable now.

[–]DRUNK_CYCLIST 27 points28 points ago

Thanks for the head. I feel so relaxed now.

[–]MattHeavi 18 points19 points ago

[–]cethiN 4 points5 points ago

Holy shit it's my cousin!

[–]Cusbus 0 points1 point ago

Have some karma.

[–]QuickPhix 0 points1 point ago

Oh hey, it's the reason pictures of standups keep showing up in funny. I must have missed this whole thing.

[–]bfogarty27 0 points1 point ago

Things go in cycles, one week it's vertical screen caps from a show the next it's stand up

[–]fred20122 0 points1 point ago

You are wrong. What you are describing is survival of the fittest not natural selection

[–]grippage 20 points21 points ago

If one assumes that new species are not created through the elimination of unfavorable traits, as a hard-line creationist might, then this is not ironic at all. Even if species stayed the exact same through successive generations ever since "god" created them, fish would still eat other fish.

Regardless, bumper magnets are not meant to "prove" anything. Their purpose is to shove your beliefs in the face of the driver behind you.

[–]brazen 9 points10 points ago

Your accurate explanation of science has no place in r/athiesm!! /s

As a biology grad student, r/atheism's understanding of science makes me rage-quit far more than r/christianity's. But then I've also learned there are also some understanding atheists in here, but they usually get drowned out by the evangelical anti-theists.

[–]Dylan_the_Villain 1 point2 points ago

/r/Christianity is actually a pretty nice subreddit, mostly because it doesn't have many people. Similar to /r/trueatheism

[–]zap-throwaway- 1 point2 points ago

Really, r/atheism has made you rage quit more? I want anecdotes!

[–]nikipinz 1 point2 points ago

Oh, really? Why the rage in r/atheism? I'm curious.

[–]murphmurphy 45 points46 points ago

I want a bumper sticker that has a Darwin Sticker standing on top of a mountain looking out over a universe of stars, galaxies, giants beyond massive and powerful beyond our comprehension all dictated by the tinniest of particles and the faintest of forces, reveling in the majesty of the fact that there is order, not humanity, but order to the physical world which can be known while a Jesus fish stands in a Sizzlers parking lot tells people not to masturbate.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points ago

You must have a pretty big bumper...

[–]anonymouse20 7 points8 points ago

i like big bumpers and i cannot lie

[–]IArgueWithAtheists 3 points4 points ago

Is there really order? I mean, mysticism about order in the universe isn't something I would think favors atheism.

[–]raver459 11 points12 points ago

Order unguided by the supernatural? Why not? Evolution and natural selection give the appearance of order, so much so that it has fooled many humans :-P

[–]Skorthase 2 points3 points ago

This exactly; order so far as we can understand it.

[–]Deracination 1 point2 points ago

If we're going to discuss order, there needs to be some sort of criteria for it. As it is, I see evolution and natural selection as being no more orderly than the gasses in space. Everything obeys the same basic physical principles, principles apathetic towards any sort of order or lack thereof. In a large enough sample of such chaos, the illusion of order is going to pop up sooner or later. For instance, the digits 1234567890 exist in pi. That doesn't suggest anything about its orderliness, however.

[–]raver459 0 points1 point ago

My point simply is that our brains like to order things, and to find patterns and assume they're intentional even if they're not (ex. virgin mary in toast)

[–]zyedy 5 points6 points ago

I think it's hard to deny the universe has order. It has laws that hold it together and keep it in an equilibrium, even if only temporary (by cosmic standards - so perhaps billions of years). You don't have to think those things were created by something divine but clearly there is some beauty in its...uh...complex simplicity I think is the best way to say it.

Further, there's nothing too mystic about it. We understand why planets rotate, galaxies collide, etc, although imperfectly. Where it gets mystic is asking "where did these forces come from?". To understand why gravity, nuclear force, and magnetism exist is the true next step in discovery.

It's mind-blowing to me because while we consider gravity, for example, a fact of the universe, we have little to no clue what it actually is in the most basic, existential way. We only know it's there, it acts on things with predictable properties, but it's invisible and as far as I know (but I'm no scientist) intangible, and can only be proven to exist by the effect it has on physical things. Now that's what's interesting to me.

[–]WalrusTits 0 points1 point ago

Strong overpowering weak is a pretty consistent trend from sub-atomic particles to the formation of snowflake patterns or spider webs all the way up to advanced life that could be considered as some sort of order.

[–]El_Impresionante 1 point2 points ago

mysticism about order in the universe isn't something I would think favors atheism.

You need to watch this documentary then. One of my favourite ones.
The full version isn't available there. I hope you know where to get it.

[–]Sigma6987 0 points1 point ago

The only truth is chaos

[–]abenton 25 points26 points ago

That is not how natural selection works.

[–]CaptainYoshi 6 points7 points ago

The irony...

[–]EEFred 2 points3 points ago

Maybe the Jesus fish mutated and grew larger as a result, allowing him to devour the Darwin fish. Sounds like natural selection to me albeit with some inferring going on.

Either that, or I should reread the Wikipedia article.

[–]snorch 0 points1 point ago

Rule X motherfucker

[–]imbeingsirius 0 points1 point ago

How is it not? The smaller fish got eaten by the bigger fish...ergo, nature is selecting for the bigger fish...

[–]abenton 2 points3 points ago

Natural selection is the gradual, non-random process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers.

It's not about what eats what. It's about what traits are selected by a species population.

[–]imbeingsirius 1 point2 points ago

I understand that to be the specific definition, but I think it's a bit pedantic to write that the OP is "not how natural selection works", especially since both "fish" are fictional anyway. If it is a biological trait that allowed one fish to kill the over (presumably before it could reproduce) then the one doing the eating can have more offspring. Granted, the populace isn't being affected, but maybe there's a whole school of Darwin fish being eaten by Jesus fish.

[–]tsavs 5 points6 points ago

I don't get it

[–]johnlacie 0 points1 point ago

The irony is about those creationists using that bumper sticker to reject Darwin's "Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection" but are actually using a strong depiction of a natural selective pressure at work.

[–]IArgueWithAtheists 4 points5 points ago

The Darwin fish ruined the Jesus for me because now I see the Jesus fish as an anti-evolution symbol instead of a Christianity symbol.

Fuck it. Transformers decal.

[–]linkseyi 11 points12 points ago

As a fish I am deeply offended.

[–]ShadowAssassinQueef 8 points9 points ago

My girlfriend is a fish, and someday we want to get married. Its stuff like this that makes that day farther away.

[–]thelandofnarnia 0 points1 point ago

Ariel?

[–]AerialAmphibian 1 point2 points ago

And how do you think I feel?

[–]ThatguyIncognito 25 points26 points ago

As a fan of science, I love those. The ones I've seen have been Truth fish eating Darwin fish. I take them to mean that truth is, of course, bigger than evolution. There are many truths not covered by evolution. But evolution has been incorporated into the truth and truth has been nourished by it.

[–]DarnJester99 16 points17 points ago

Someone earlier asked for proof, this is an image I found and it just so happens to be the one your described.

http://imgur.com/FLiHJ

[–]silverscreemer 20 points21 points ago

The TRUTH is if you evolve legs, get the fuck out of the water or a large fish will eat you. That's IT'S territory. You belong on the land!

[–]monkeedude1212 15 points16 points ago

Things you learn from playing Spore...

[–]Sauris0 2 points3 points ago

What? FISH is evolving! FISH is now FISH-WITH-LEGS!

[–]spovat -1 points0 points ago

LOL well put

[–]NiteShadeX2 0 points1 point ago

Alligators and Crocodiles made a poor life decision then.

[–]silverscreemer 0 points1 point ago

Only the ones that are eaten by big fish.

[–]Alrahil 7 points8 points ago

Or this one :

http://imgur.com/a5XgH

[–]raver459 1 point2 points ago

Hmmm...I think I really like this one, much more than the Darwin fish. What's nice is that it could legitimately be used on both sides, but the reality is it's probably pro-evolution, since the theory is contained WITHIN the truth, it doesn't stand for the truth.

[–]YesNoMaybe 19 points20 points ago

No. People who put those stickers on their car flat out reject evolution as an explanation for anything. I know these people; they live all around me. Evolution to them is a lie, not some truth that just doesn't happen to explain everything else.

[–]ThatguyIncognito 0 points1 point ago

I know that they stick those on their cars to get back at "us" for our clever Darwin fish. But by my interpreting it my own way we can all enjoy their adornments. Win/win. As long as we stay at the level of installing and looking at decorations instead of actually talking together, we are all happy.

[–]Lilyo 6 points7 points ago

I've seen the Jesus fish eating the Darwin fish and I take it as religious dogma censoring or overpowering scientific knowledge through size and power alone, not truth or knowledge. Isn't the "truth" fish the same as the Jesus fish?

[–]inthekeyofbflat 1 point2 points ago

DAE SCIENCE????

[–]heartthrowaways 1 point2 points ago

I saw one of a dinosaur eating a Truth fish.

[–]bigspunge1 0 points1 point ago

You are a fan of science?

[–]DumbwaiterRainbow 5 points6 points ago

Meh. I'll stick with my Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[–]sheerheartattack 5 points6 points ago

Might as well ask here: Is "images of obscure comedians overladen with the text of one of their jokes" a new meme or something?

[–]FancyBBQ 5 points6 points ago

Think I heard Burnie Burns from Roosterteeth make this same point a long time ago on their podcast. I think.

[–]Just_devils_advocate 2 points3 points ago

You did, almost word for word too.

[–]LunarLovers 71 points72 points ago

Eating isn't natural selection.

[–]alexanderpas 42 points43 points ago

it is part of natural selection.

both eating enough, and not getting eaten.

[–]jabertsohn 32 points33 points ago

Creationism also includes eating though.

[–]pacman42 10 points11 points ago

Why? Why couldnt god make us so that we didnt need to eat? Or poop for that matter?

[–]jabertsohn 9 points10 points ago

God is a scatologist.

[–]WeaponsGradeHumanity 1 point2 points ago

[–]I_Hate_Reddit_ 0 points1 point ago

Maybe so that species would have to be interdependent and co-exist.

[–]Dahtrelle 0 points1 point ago

F that, I love eating and shitting.

[–]HapkidoJosh 0 points1 point ago

Really? What did they eat on Noah's Ark?

[–]weskokigen 7 points8 points ago

Natural selection = differential reproductive success. If something gets eaten after creating progeny, it doesn't matter.

[–]rhythmguy 2 points3 points ago

If it gets eaten before it procreates, it does matter.

[–]Dragonsong 2 points3 points ago

this is an isolated event, saying that one fish eating another is natural selection is like a ridiculous assumption to make, because it doesn't necessarily apply to the fish's entire species

[–]chainer3000 3 points4 points ago

I think you missed the point; the Jesus fish "evolved" into a larger fish to eat the Darwin fish. It's not the fact that it's eating the smaller one, it's that the Jesus fish has adapted to eat the newer fish.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

creationism doesn't say some fish aren't bigger than others, and nowhere on those fish does it say anything about being the way they are because of adaptation.

this doesn't have anymore to do with natural selection than the original jesus fish

[–]zyedy -1 points0 points ago

Thank God the people with the Jesus fish on their cars don't adapt nearly as fast. That could be a real problem.

[–]LunarLovers 0 points1 point ago

Who said that the Jesus fish evolved? I didn't hear anybody say anything about the Jesus fish evolving. Where in the OP's quote did it say anything about adaptation?

[–]silent_p 0 points1 point ago

It's a component. And their argument depends a lot on assumptions of natural selection. The Darwin fish growing legs would probably have prevented any other fish from preying on it. But that doesn't matter in the bumper emblem ecosystem. The larger Jesus fish was still able to trap and consume the Darwin fish. Presumably, the Darwin fish grew legs to escape their natural predator, the Jesus fish. Those who stayed on the truly aquatic bumpers were eaten on, and were unable to propagate their design. Those who adopted an amphibious or land-based lifestyle were able to live and multiply. Neither one was better, or had a position of moral superiority, and both found their niche in the car ecosystem.

What were we talking about?

[–]RespectTheChemisty 0 points1 point ago

True. But it's like the two fish are having an argument about who's right. And the Christian's fish are like "hey our fish eat's yours, we win the argument" It's very reminiscent of animal that eats another gets to pass on it's genes.

[–]cobdale 4 points5 points ago

this is outstanding irony? easy there, cowboy

[–]Randy_Manimal 4 points5 points ago

That is why I settled on a Gulpo bumper sticker.

[–]Workaphobia 2 points3 points ago

Speaking of which, I've been waiting for a while for SMBC to come out with a gulpo bumper sticker. That's one of the very few items of flair I'd consider putting on my car.

[–]KptKrondog 9 points10 points ago

I'm confused...where is the irony...or the natural selection?

[–]Sauris0 4 points5 points ago

One animal eating another is not necesarily natural selection. So there's is not really much irony to see.

[–]hthu 1 point2 points ago

I don't know about the irony part, but I can somewhat explain the natural selection part, since I see some comment about this already. Natural selection involves bio diversity, a selection pressure, and some inheritance property. Obviously, two fish can't demonstrate bio diversity other than a symbolic representation of 'differences' (the trait being size, in this case). The selection pressure is that bigger organisms tend to be more successful at surviving (not being eaten) than its smaller counterparts. Inheritance is of course missing from the picture, but it's not a stretch to say that big fish tend to beget big fish. So, with all the caveats mentioned, the resulting image could be a symbol for natural selection, abeit an oversimplified one. Given that, then, having a symbol that represents natural selection, which is one of the integral components of the larger theory of evolution, with the attempt to advocate for creationism, is ironic.

EDIT: I must add... I didn't mean that the bigger fish is more evolutionarily advantageous than the smaller fish just because it's able to consume the smaller one. I'm just saying that the selection pressure as depicted in this picture is such. In nature, ironically it's usually the smaller fish that out live the bigger ones as a species.

[–]krahl4 12 points13 points ago

Not all Christians deny evolution. The Catholic church accepts evolution.

[–]Kirk__Cameron 20 points21 points ago

99.9% of /r/atheism understands that. This pic was aimed at the crazy, American, Christian Fundies.

[–]MAUVErick 4 points5 points ago

For sure. The only problem is that fish is the symbol of Christianity (Catholics included) and not "the crazy, American Christian Fundies".

[–]Youreallpuffs 2 points3 points ago

Nobody has a problem with the jesus fish. They have a problem with the "truth" fish eating the "darwin" fish.

[–]apple4960 1 point2 points ago

Well the Darwin fish was a rebuttal to the Jesus fish originally, so apparently someone thought of Christians as anti-evolution, or at least anti-Darwin.

[–]Youreallpuffs 1 point2 points ago

Well at one point in time all Christians were against evolution. The theory made a big splash amongst the religious crowd when it was first coming about. Evolution doesnt disprove God per se, but it does disprove a literal interpretation of the bible. Genesis did not happen, at least not at all like its told in the bible.

Big debates were had for years, theres tons of history behind this subject that I suggest you read about because its all very very interesting. I believe it wasnt even till 1990ish that Catholicism actually fully accepted evolution.

But I do understand where you're coming from. You're probably a christian and you probably understand evolution, so I could understand why you felt slighted. Nobody is faulting you though. I perhaps suggest you look at the Darwin fish not as something that says "Hey you're wrong!" but as something all its own thing.

[–]FirstRyder -1 points0 points ago

And? I've seen the "jesus fish eating darwin fish" in the wild myself. Are we not supposed to comment because it's not a unanimous view?

[–]SumnerSolstice 1 point2 points ago

America has nothing to do about it, as there's definitely fundamentalism spilling over into Canada. We've had Creationism here for years too.

[–]zyedy 0 points1 point ago

It's true that America is about 2x more religious than other first world countries, and that the "born-again" originated here. Why it's more religious is a matter for social/political theorists, but many believe it was either due to self-selection (people came here to practice their beliefs w/o fear of persecution, such as the original puritans and generations after them), or that the diversity of religion creates a sort of "market" for it where churches "sell" their brand on the intellectual/spiritual market. You can imagine in a state of one religion there is little incentive to convert others.

That said, as an agnostic person I'm sure religion has brought good (work ethic, charity [yes, there's a church handing out food outside my window right now], social/emotional/community support, and bad to America, as anyone in this subreddit would know.

[–]Dustintico 1 point2 points ago

I've actually only met one person who outright denies evolution. Nobody likes them anyway.

[–]WalrusTits -1 points0 points ago

Also, as much as they want to say it, evolutionary theory isn't consistent with the religion. They've adopted it out of neccecity to not alienate practically all of their members but it still makes no sense unless you need it to make sense.

[–]WhoWatchesTheWatcher 1 point2 points ago

Partially.

[–]johnlacie 0 points1 point ago

And you would be correct! But the joke was about the people who use the bumper sticker to reject Darwin's theory. Those are the creationists that were the focus of the joke. It excludes all other Christians and creationists that don't subscribe to the use of that bumper sticker. If you feel that nevertheless includes you, then you are really going out of your way to be offended.

[–]krahl4 0 points1 point ago

The sticker is supposed to be a reminder that we Christians are called to be "fishers of men" meaning that we should behave in a Christlike way and show others to follow Christ's example. My point I'm trying to make is that the sticker is not anti-evolution or anti-darwin. The person who created the fish sprouting legs sticker was obviously trying to be a jerk. The Creationists who made the next sticker were retarded.

[–]johnlacie 0 points1 point ago

The "Jesus Fish" is indeed a Christian symbol but the "Jesus Fish eats Darwin Fish" is specific to Christian Creationists propaganda to ridicule Darwin's Theory. If you are talking just about the plain "Jesus Fish" then let me reassure you that you are not the target of the joke. Don't be offended. I would think that you should rather be offended that your symbol is being subverted to diminish the importance of the "Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection".

[–]krahl4 0 points1 point ago

OK enough of the "If you're offended" crap. I'm not offended. I'm simply trying to educate people that not all Christians are Creationists and that the original fish sticker is not anti-evolution. I don't have the symbol on my car because I don't stick my views on my car because I don't want to be rear-ended. I believe in evolution because it is a fact. Many creationists don't have doctorates, bachelors, or even basic science degrees and they were never taught anything about evolution in school. Their generation will die out so don't worry and soon (I think we might already be there) you will be laughed at if you are a creationist. I fight to keep evolution teaching in school because if nothing else, you should know what other people believe and why they believe what they do.

[–]scrash -1 points0 points ago

tell that to the republican party

[–]krahl4 -1 points0 points ago

I'm sorry but this shows your ignorance. Just because some republicans are creationists does not mean they all are. Same for the democrats.

[–]scrash -1 points0 points ago

I'd say most republicans official platform would support teaching creationism in school and would call evolution only a theory

[–]willxrocks 7 points8 points ago

I've told my fundie friend about this too. He has since taken it off and put a normal jesus fish on it haha

[–]itsmechi 6 points7 points ago

Natural nuttin, God made that fucking fish. And jesuss cloned it to feed everyone.

[–]thelandofnarnia 5 points6 points ago

I wish that Bible story would have been about the "2 sheep and 3 loaves" instead of fish. Imagine if the scientists who cloned "Dolly" could have cited Jesus for having the original application of cloning?

[–]EEFred 0 points1 point ago

This is my kind of humor!

[–]Bennyboy1337 2 points3 points ago

I have a T-Rex eating jesus fish on my car.

[–]toadbearman 0 points1 point ago

I used to have a darwin fish...but the car kept getting nasty notes left on it, and keyed.. good thing I put it on my neighbors car.

;-)

[–]OKImHere 2 points3 points ago

Is he under the impression that creationists think fish don't eat?

[–]pittsburghmonkey 2 points3 points ago

That... isn't really natural selection.

[–]AwesomeOboe 2 points3 points ago

RoosterTeeth Podcast?

[–]LE_9GAG_FTW 0 points1 point ago

the iorny use to be outstanding but then itook an arrow to the knee!!

[–]Squalor- 5 points6 points ago

Overly religious people have a really hard time understanding irony.

[–]JohnyWishbone 4 points5 points ago

That and common sense.

[–]CheeseMunkee[!] 0 points1 point ago

Common sense is neither.

[–]haccubus 1 point2 points ago

Yeah I've seen the Jesus fish eating the Darwin land-walking fish. And I thought exactly the same thing that is was pretty funny the Jesus fished evolved.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

people who think that one fish eating something is natural selection/evolution, and then call out christians for not knowing they're proving a point using natural selection, when they're not.

[–]Pallapower 0 points1 point ago

He said rebuttal... all that comes to mind is the "if I may present a rebuttal, go fuck yourself with a cactus" meme....

[–]Peaceblaster86 -1 points0 points ago

Natural selection? Does that mean that Jesus should keep on trucking as he is better/smarter/bigger than the Darwin fish?

[–]MInTheGap 1 point2 points ago

Umm... And just where does one find someone that both believes in Creation and doesn't believe in Natural Selection (if this were showing natural selection)?

[–]EEFred 0 points1 point ago

Seriously? Go to any protestant church in 'Murica. This country is literally littered with them.

[–]MInTheGap 0 points1 point ago

I'm sure this is what you believe to be the case, but you need to produce evidence-- surely that shouldn't be difficult?

[–]EEFred 0 points1 point ago

I don't need to prove anything. I speak from my own anecdotal evidence.

If you require proof, strike up a conversation with a fundamentalist sometime.

[–]MInTheGap -1 points0 points ago

Without proof, I call strawman.

[–]EEFred 1 point2 points ago

I don't care enough. You win.

[–]Mwoam 0 points1 point ago

I haven't see any of the fish mentioned before. . .

[–]sehrfine 0 points1 point ago

Hmm had a discussion with a muslim here once, who was okay with evolution and survival of the fittest but did not believe that humans evolved from simple minded creatures.

I guess you can just pick and choose to believe in whatever you want.

[–]Viking_Lordbeast 0 points1 point ago

Okay seriously, what's up with all the random stand up comic pics being on the front page with their twitter accounts at the bottom? They're made in the exact same style so I'm thinking conspiracy.

[–]raver459 0 points1 point ago

And yet...they ate the Darwin fish, so we died! Let's just call it a draw and say Christianity fails.

[–]llnk 1 point2 points ago

I think their jesus fish eating the Darwin fish rebuttal symbolized that evolution really does exist, and christianity is actively trying to suppress it.

[–]somerandomguy02 0 points1 point ago

Who says we don't believe in natural selection?

[–]EEFred -1 points0 points ago

The other 90% of you guys. Wait, I just got trolled, didn't I? Dammit.

[–]somerandomguy02 0 points1 point ago

I'm assuming you're joking.

No, no trolling. I'm Christian and I believe in natural selection and evolution of genes. I just don't believe that we evolved from monkeys. The science shows the adaptation of humans through skin color among other things. There is a reason I tan well and a reason I have dark hair and brown eyes, etc.

I'm not a fundamentalist who believes that the earth is only 16,000 years old. Look at Genesis. Who knows how many years a day was in Genesis? From what perspective are you counting a day? Take relativity into account.

We as humans know so many times less than there is left to know in the universe. I don't think we'll ever get to discovering and knowing all the knowledge because there is just so much out there.

[–]EEFred 0 points1 point ago

Most protestants I know don't believe in evolution.

Also, the theory of evolution does not state we evolved from monkeys. It states that we had a common ancestor. That's all.

[–]somerandomguy02 0 points1 point ago

Ok, that's fine. I just think they aren't looking at the whole picture.

[–]EEFred 0 points1 point ago

What is this "whole picture" you are speaking about?

[–]ClareBear 0 points1 point ago

[–]PeterMus 1 point2 points ago

I've only even seen it the other way around- Darwin fish eating jesus fish.

[–]educatedshrimp 1 point2 points ago

I've always wanted a couple of magnetic legs to stick on the fish proving evolution.

[–]Amryxx 1 point2 points ago

I'm sure "eating" is not against creationist doctrine. An intelligent creator makes the various things, but there's no reason why said things can't eat.

[–]FastCarsShootinStars 0 points1 point ago

They think their self-sufficient ignorance is just as good if not better than your educated scientific statements.

[–]redsavage0 0 points1 point ago

I'm really enjoying these comedy shots for not so well known comics. Great exposure and great content.

[–]MIBPJ 0 points1 point ago

I'm pretty sure creationist are aware that animals do in fact eat each other. The probably also recognize that fitter animals are less likely to get eaten. I think some of them would even admit that by selecting for fitter animals you can drive population level changes in the phenotypic composition of a species (i.e. microevolution).

The point they take issue with is whether this process cannot generate new species (macroevolution) and whether humans are one of those new species that were created through natural selection on lower apes. A bit silly, but that's what they believe.

[–]ohyoshimi 0 points1 point ago

What is the deal with these? I've seen several of these posted and make it to the front page over the past few days. Is there an unknown comic upcoming army somewhere? I don't particularly care, I just noticed they all have the same format so I grew a little suspicious.

[–]KW710 0 points1 point ago

For the record, most of the serious creationists out there (i.e.: The Answers In Genesis folks) don't dispute natural selection as an actual mechanism of biological change.

[–]dahi3444 1 point2 points ago

viral marketing, viral marketing. 5th one of these on the front page in the last 24 hours .......

[–]Hypercube9 0 points1 point ago

Okay, so I get the Jesus fish and the Darwin fish, and all the cannibal fish. But what about just the blank empty fish? That could kinda go either way, don't 'ya think?

[–]biggysmallz 1 point2 points ago

Seems to me that the title should be astounding, not outstanding.

[–]Phillile 1 point2 points ago

Predation =! natural selection. Dumbass.

[–]Antem24 0 points1 point ago

This is not natural selection. This is just a case of cause and reaction. I am not questioning the validity of evolutionary theory, but this is just wrong.

[–]aHumanMale 0 points1 point ago

Call me crazy, but I think the advent of the darwin fish was a really douchebag move. I mean, the ichthys has literally been a Christian symbol since the second or third century, through a good deal of persecution. And yeah, I know, Christians in subsequent history were no saints. What I'm saying it just seems unnecessicarily antagonistic. Is there an atheist symbol that's not explicity anti-theist?

Incidentally, I think the Jesus-fish-eating-a-darwin-fish is also a pretty douchebag move.

[–]blondefox101 1 point2 points ago

What did you expect, creationists fall bellow the line of mental retardation... family guy reference lol

[–]Festeroo4Life 0 points1 point ago

I just laughed way too hard at this. Never seen one before but I would laugh just as hard if I did.

[–]ibethelorax 0 points1 point ago

I always thought that was a dinosaur eating the Jesus fish... I guess my eyes just ain't what they used to be.

[–]CGord 0 points1 point ago

Uh, the ones I've seen were the Darwin fish eating the Jesus fish.

[–]gradeahonky 0 points1 point ago

My dad pointed that very thing out about 12 years ago. Impressed? Anyone?

[–]SazerSparticus 0 points1 point ago

Was waiting for that joke to show up.

[–]Methodic1 0 points1 point ago

My favorite is the people who get both stickers and have the Darwin fish raping the Jesus fish. Then the Jesus fish must marry the Darwin fish, but the darwin fish calls the jesus fish a whore and gets the hell outta there.

[–]HSBender 0 points1 point ago

see, this is why I, as a Christian, signed up for r/atheism. for the clever

[–]Tolkienreadsmymind 1 point2 points ago

BURNIE MOTHERFUCKIN' BURNS.

[–]GOthee 0 points1 point ago

Hahaha, very neat appreciation of the theists use of the fact that evne when they dont believe in evolution, they try to convince the people using EVOLUTION.

[–]Gorski_Song 1 point2 points ago

Drunk Tank.

[–]Suitecake 1 point2 points ago

One fish eating another fish isn't natural selection. The joke is neither accurate nor funny.

[–]The_Bojingles 0 points1 point ago

Self owned!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

Think we can get to the point where we just believe or not believe in what we want to and and stfu about it?

[–]evillive 1 point2 points ago

Not trying to be an asshole...but how does that make sense?

[–]LancePharmstrong 0 points1 point ago

They should make another one with a man cooking a Jesus fish on the grill.

[–]NoLoveForYouHa 0 points1 point ago

Kinda like my bumper decal.

[–]RonaldFuckingPaul -1 points0 points ago

makes no sense, but ok

[–]fred20122 0 points1 point ago

Sadly this post is ignorant of science as well. What it is describing is survival of the fittest, not natural selection.

[–]koavf 0 points1 point ago

Please don't post text as an image.

[–]daxarx 0 points1 point ago

Predators eating prey are not 'more evolved'. This is rubbish misunderstanding of biology, no better than creationism.

Predators depend on their prey. It is a food web. The prey have to be reproducing at a high rate in the same environment as their predators, which means they also have to be fit for the same environment.

Once again, glib nonsense posted in cheesy images for the sake of karma harvesting

[–]patto2k 0 points1 point ago

Natural selection != Darwinism

[–]theindie360 0 points1 point ago

DRUNK TANK, don't know who was first.

[–]joshperry -1 points0 points ago

I'm still trying to understand that if apes evolved into neanderthals, and neanderthals evolved into humans and disappeared, why didn't apes disappear?

[–]Inofor 0 points1 point ago

Basically, there was more than one ape.

[–]squigs 0 points1 point ago

Creationists seem to believe in every single aspect of evolution. The only part they deny is the conclusion.