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Thou shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain... (i.imgur.com)
submitted 16 hours ago by Skoolz
[–]LowPEZ 8 points9 points10 points 5 hours ago
Video
[–]TunefulPegasus 4 points5 points6 points 5 hours ago
louis CK is awesome.
[–]STUN_Runner 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago
Rape, in the bible, is basically a property crime. It's not considered a crime against the woman, it's a crime against the man who owns her.
[–]FishStand 5 points6 points7 points 13 hours ago
I just realized saying "God damit" is not "taking the Lord's name in vain," since "God" is not its name.
[–]NiteShadeX2 7 points8 points9 points 13 hours ago
Would it be either way?
You are saying "God damn it" as in "God curse this object." Its not like you're going "Fuck God". If anything its a command, I think...
[–]4ScienceandReason 11 points12 points13 points 8 hours ago
I think he's saying,
o.O
[–]RedderNeckanize 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago
Wrong, You are misunderstanding the commandment as do many. "God Damn!" = probobly not a good thing but not the sin of the ten cammandments "Dear God please forgive me for hitting my sister." - Not really sorry and will do it again. THAT is saying the lords name in vain.
there are others too but i am lazy.
[–]LS_DJ 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago
But seriously, fuck god
[–]therealsylvos 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago
I think you get let of the hook if you don't believe he exists and are just being snarky, put down your stones everyone.
Relevant
If God existed you would probably not be dammed for saying that but it isn’t a good thing. If God doesn’t exist then what you said doesn’t really make sense.
[–]LS_DJ 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago*
I think if god existed, it'd have a sense of humor
[–]RedderNeckanize 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
Yeah I think so too.
[–]Coal_Morgan 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
I don't think he would, he'd know everything that was going to happen for all time and every eventuality or even possibility. He'd experience everything in the tiniest fraction of time and then be bored for all eternity.
I think he'd exist for a split second and then use his omnipotence to kill himself.
[–]LS_DJ 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
See, I think you're viewing 'god' from what is a human perspective. If an omnipotent being did exist, it's thoughts would not be of trivial things like being bored. In fact, I've always been of the opinion that striving to understand god is humanly unknowable and therefore absurd.
But I don't think there is a god, at least not a biblical one. And I'm fully comfortable in saying fuck the god from the bible. That one is controlling, manipulative, jealous, violent, bigoted and ignorant...much like the people who wrote the book and made 'god' up
[–]Coal_Morgan 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago
I was being facetious. I think the idea of omni is patently ridiculous. It's one of the reasons I believe god isn't real, the only semi-observable infinites are space and time and they're only infinite because tangibles exist in them. Besides time and space, we have concepts like numbers that are conceptually infinite and that is what I believe god is; a concept of us, with restrictions removed, nothing more then an idea to explicate the inexplicable. THEN SCIENCE!!
FOR SCIENCE! My bad about not picking up on the facetiousness, didn't want to come off as a dick
[–]Coal_Morgan 1 point2 points3 points 39 minutes ago
You didn't.
[–]RichardPeterJohnson -2 points-1 points0 points 4 hours ago
I believe ordering the alleged creator of the universe to condemn something for eternity is a wee bit disrespectful.
[–]FSMfan 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago
Also missing from the 10 C's: slavery.
[–]Skoolz[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago
In fact, the Bible condones slavery.
[–]Xanthos 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago
Where?
[–]Skoolz[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
etc etc...
Thank you!
[–]CanPanther 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
Also missing: cannibalism (re: eating Christ's flesh and drinking his blood)
[–]lightsandcandy 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
Does anyone have the link to the original?
[–]phism 1 point2 points3 points 10 hours ago
I always thought this was one of the most misconstrued commandments. I took it to mean "don't waste my time praying for trivial nonsense." But that would cut out like 98% of prayers, at least in the United States, so I can see why that wouldn't be a popular interpretation.
[–]one_two_many_lots -1 points0 points1 point 7 hours ago
It would also ban people from thanking god for every single thing every even thought it wasn't god.
[–]Skoolz[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
say whaaaat?
[–]Tlingit_Raven 0 points1 point2 points 33 minutes ago
That's not what...
Meh, what's the point? People here don't want context or knowledge on anything anyway.
[–]KaosKing 1 point2 points3 points 8 hours ago
except the bit about adultery. i think it's included in that.
[–]GenuinelyCrooked 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago
You could only possibly make this argument if you completely ignore spousal rape.
[–]Aquagoat 4 points5 points6 points 5 hours ago
Pretty sure adultery is sex with someone outside of marriage.
A fun part is when the Bible says that if you get divorced, the woman becomes an adulteress. And anyone who marries her, is also guilty of adultery.
[–]therealsylvos 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago
Verse please?
[–]baberg 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago
Matthew 5:32
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
[–]therealsylvos 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago*
Thank you, I never knew why the Catholic Church was so opposed to divorce throughout history until now. It seemed to occur in the Bible, so this was a point of confusion for me.
[–]HurtJayD -2 points-1 points0 points 14 hours ago
Louis Louis Loius Louuiiiss
If you're singing the title song for his show, it should be "Louie, Louie, Louie, Louiiiieee" since he spells it different for the show. ;P
[–]Thereminz -2 points-1 points0 points 4 hours ago
totally not a repost
[–]polluxuk -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 hours ago
Another attempt at /r/atheism circlejerk, will they ever fucking end.
[–]wallycleaver 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago
Did you forget where the door was?
This post, in my opinion, has produced a very informative discussion about the commandments and their specific meanings. This is something I find acceptable and iconic of the /r/atheism subreddit. Is there a better place for fellow atheists to debate/discuss this stuff?
[–]dnuts4u 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago
rape is just another form of procreation.
[–]TheIcelander 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
Only if it's not a legitimate rape.
[–]dnuts4u 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
well duh, that's the only kind you can get pregnant from!
[–]Mack488 -8 points-7 points-6 points 15 hours ago
I think that goes under the adultery area.
[–]otac0n 3 points4 points5 points 12 hours ago
Well, that's not really "adultery".
[–]phism 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
as long as she's single, have at it.
[–]Blastface -1 points0 points1 point 5 hours ago
Where's that bot that tells you about reposts?
[–]RedderNeckanize -1 points0 points1 point 3 hours ago
It's actually to act holy saying thank God and all that while infront of people, but murder and rape behind peoples back. Another would be to pay to god for forgivness for the same thing over and over and over.
“You shall not commit adultery." would probobly include rape..
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.” also this, where nighbor means anyone.
[–]Fitness_Beginner 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago
What if it's your wife?
[–]BugLamentations -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 hours ago
I realize that it's difficult for a super-genius like Louis CK to be bothered with the actual details of the Ten Commandments, but rape is covered by the Sixth Commandment:
From the Catholic Catechism: 2356 Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them.
[–]-Holden-Caulfield 3 points4 points5 points 3 hours ago
That isn't the sixth commandment, nor is the Catholic Catechism the bible.
The sixth commandment is ""Thou shalt not commit adultery", which is not the same as "Thou shalt not rape." You can rape your spouse, and that does not fall under the category of adultery.
Even the Catholic Catechism says this (2380). "Adultery refers to marital infidelity. When two partners, of whom at least one is married to another party, have sexual relations - even transient ones - they commit adultery."
Not the same thing as rape at all.
[–]BugLamentations -2 points-1 points0 points 2 hours ago
It's appropriate that your namesake is a caustic teenage know-it-all.
The Catholic Catechism is the exegesis on the Bible and the Ten Commandments.
Here is the full entry on the Sixth Commandment:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
[–]Skoolz[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago
Again, the catechism is NOT the bible. It is a certain group of men's interpretation of the bible. They could have added that "do not commit adultery" also means you cannot buy a donkey on the 3rd wednesday of every month, for that shows deep disrespect towards the wife, and Catholics would have eaten it up and it would now be defined as adultery.
[–]BugLamentations -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 hours ago
In other words, an anonymous atheist named Skoolz understands the fukll intentions of the Ten Commandments better than a religion that is part of an at-least 4000 year old continuum.
Color me unimpressed.
[–]Coal_Morgan 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago
Understands it as well as the Catholic. In that they read it and interpreted how they wanted too. The Catholic Cathechism is a glorified interpretation or an opinion, the people who wrote the original texts were never around to spell out all the bullshit the Catholics interpreted and read into it, when they weren't just straight up adding b.s.
[–]Skoolz[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago
No, that's not even what I said or what I tried to imply. You must be feeling that your faith is being challenged, so you must defend it, and I understand that. But what you said is not a valid reason to consider the catechism as truth outside of the bible. "God" intended the bible to be taken at face value. Religions just get a bunch of people together to interpret it the way THEY see fit; whichever way controls people more effectively, and hides the hundreds of discrepancies in the book. That's why there are so many different Christian denominations and Old Testament religions. To me, I see it as obvious that these religions are a scary power that shape the bible into whatever they want, to make it even more detrimental than it already is. Why do you think the Catholic religion didn't want to translate the bible for every man to read?
And finally, how is the Catholic church part of a 4000 year old continuum? Didn't it start after Jesus supposedly walked the earth?
PS. Could you have your lovely Catechism writers from the 4000 year old continuum interpret this passage for me: "Dear friends, I am not writing a new commandment, for it is an old one you have always had, right from the beginning. This commandment – to love one another – is the same message you heard before. Yet it is also new." (1 John 2:7-8 NLT)
[–]NaChoBizness 0 points1 point2 points 20 minutes ago
Were we supposed to be impressed by your silly red herring and ad hominems?
[–]DKN19 -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 hours ago
God fucking dammit jesus fucking christ cocksucker joseph and cunt mary.
[–]MistressFray -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 hours ago
"Thou shalt not covet" That applies to rape as well.
Unless you pay the owner and take the raped person from them then it's ok.
Deutoronomy 22: 28-29
[–]NaChoBizness 0 points1 point2 points 18 minutes ago
No, that applies to property.
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