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[–]Ayevee 1 point2 points ago

Why are her knees red?

[–]JavaLSU 0 points1 point ago

She was laying carpet earlier.

[–]hilledrah 6 points7 points ago

Haha, so true. They want the worker to be 20 years old and have 10 years of experience.

[–]simms1 1 point2 points ago

Same here. I graduated from University last April and still nothing. Pretty much wasted 6 years and a load of cash for absolutely nothing.

[–]i_4got[S] 1 point2 points ago

I graduated with a Master's degree last year. Seems like employers don't care about that at all. =/

[–]eidd 0 points1 point ago

They do care. I graduated with my Master's (Chemistry) last year as well. I worked in a lab with high school graduates for a year and just recently got an offer (which I enthusiastically accepted) for what is basically my dream job. I can credit my M.S. with putting me over other, more experienced candidates because they felt I could gain the experience and that my M.S. showed a willingness to go beyond the basics.

TL;DR: I took a low pay, low education required job that gave me an edge up on getting my dream job. My Master's pushed me over the top. I regret nothing (although I did regret getting Master's until this all happened).

(Also, I applied to job using a resume with my Master's absent. After the interviews were going well I felt comfortable letting them know I had a higher degree. They were thrilled to hear it by that point because I had already won them over)

[–]ayers231 2 points3 points ago

Try volunteering for a charity in a related field. My brother worked for Houses for Humanity for two years to get experience as a work site manager, and it worked like a charm... It sucks not to get paid, but at least you are out of the house, and getting useful experience (plus he met his wife doing that. Lots of great people donate their time to causes...)

[–]i_4got[S] 3 points4 points ago

That's an idea. But unfortunately, I'm in the Finance field. Any volunteer opportunities I find would strictly be for charitable causes, and not directly related to my field. There are plenty of interns and co-op students taking up any unpaid positions for their program requirements. And companies are reluctant to hire graduates for those positions anyway since we're "overqualified" and would leave after a very short stay.

It seems like I'm always either underqualified or overqualified for a position.

[–]ayers231 1 point2 points ago

It also seems like you've made all the arguments for them. Make them say it to you. How much can hearing "you're overqualified" hurt your ego anyway? I happen to like hearing it, it means I took my education seriously....

[–]ScruffyTJanitor 1 point2 points ago

It also means you didn't get the job.

Feeding your ego is all well and good, but you can't pay rent with it.

[–]ayers231 0 points1 point ago

True enough...

[–]skaudis 0 points1 point ago

The janitor is just jealous man. (not making fun of janitors,they have the most important jobs)

[–]mattaction 0 points1 point ago

It looks like it's time to put together a startup.

[–]nihilite 0 points1 point ago

Are you looking nationally? The job market in chicago is actually pretty good for accounting/finance

[–]gettingawaywithit 0 points1 point ago

I too am in the boat apart from I'm in the geology field. It's a really shitty boat

[–]rawrc 2 points3 points ago

You've discovered society's great secret. You see, no one really wants to work, and most of our jobs are unnecessary. So in order to get people to do stuff, you spend 22 years in school being educated and told that all this will help you get a great, meaningful job.

After you graduate, you must then seek this job, which of course does not exist. This is all a big set up to break you down and make you feel inadequate so that you will do ANYthing. You'll think to yourself: maybe I didn't try hard enough, or maybe there's something WRONG with me, but the truth is that you need to feel that way in order to settle for the meaningless button-pushing career you have to look forward to.

[–]Trinitykill 1 point2 points ago

Same situation for me, I can't get a decent job because I need experience, and I can't get a crappy job because I'm too smart.

That and everything these days requires m to be able to drive, but without a job, paying for driving lessons isn't really an option for me.

[–]Reilly149 2 points3 points ago

as a guy who was once in your situation; my best advice is to suck up your pride and take those jobs you think are underneath you. Work is work in the end.

For me it all boiled down to who's smarter; the guy who gets paid to take a dumb job, or the guy who turns a job down because he thinks he's to smart for it.

[–]Trinitykill 0 points1 point ago

I understand your point, but I'm already applying to jobs that are 'beneath me'. It's not that I'm not trying, I've been applying to countless jobs for months now, but every single one turns me down.

Yeah I'm actually being turned away by some of the crappest jobs available, which does not feel great.

[–]plagueofgreymen 0 points1 point ago

Manager here, I hire a lot of people from unskilled to managerial level. Without knowing to much about your individual situation it's hard to comment specifically but I can give you some tips, if you do this stuff already then it's probably just bad luck. I've been exactly in your position twice, aiming for different industries. In both I've gone from the mail room (literally) to the top floor in two years. i say this not to show off, cause who cares anyway, but to show it worked for me at least. My writing style is brusqe so just bear in mind I'm talking generally, not specifically about you.

  1. size up each job you apply for carefully, don't just send off a generic CV, tailor it to each job. Remove irrelevvant details. We don't care that you like dogs, unless you're applying at a vets etc. Do include anything relevant no matter how small. If you're over qualified, shit just don't tell them if you think it will count against you. I doubt anyone has ever got in trouble for downsizing their talents. Do include a photo on the front page (small). It'll help them form a picture of you. If you tailored your CV right you are now 3D to them.

  2. Always include a typed, job specific cover letter. Don't wax lyrical, just spit out the facts... i want this job, I'll work the hours at the wage you set, i won't complain, I won't be late, I won't take sick days unless I'm dying.

  3. Turn your CV and letter into a PDF before you send it. or don't, but it's better, whatever.

  4. If you've got an industry in mind aim for ANY job in the vicinity. once you're in, anywhere in, its a lot easier to jump around.

Check your emails and keep your phone handy, aim for half a day reply by email and answer that phone quick. Make sure you got credit to call back and check your voice mail. The world doesn't wait for you to get back to it.

The CV stage is the most important, because so many get cut here. We screen the CVs fast and weed out the non-starters. CV's got errors or is not a close fit, gone. Notes extra conditions of employment (hours, wage etc), gone. Shitty attitude evident (I get a lot of people telling me how they were fired from thier last job but its ok it wasn't their fault), gone. And lets cover that in more detail, some people seem to view it as an insult that I would want to screen them, this job should already be theirs. Don't be like that, they don't need you as much as you need them.

OK so you've got your interview, this requires more judgement.

  1. Gauge your interviewer(s) carefully. Are they formal, are they relaxed....are they insecure or stupid! You are not selling yourself in all your glory, you are selling what they want to see. If they want to hire a young over-achieving go getter be that. If they want someone who just does the job and won't outshine them, be that, if they're dumb make them feel smart. I can't tell you how to act, but remember to swallow your pride and be the employee they want. Sometimes it will suck, but you want that job right!

  2. Dress tidy but appropriate (a suit is not always the answer believe me), don't smell, blah blah blah. Applying for a customer service job? take that nose ring out. I took my piercings out, boom, job offers. I just put them back in when I got home.

  3. Try and politely get questions about the job in before they start questioning you, details about the job description ie tasks and hours etc. Do not ask about pay or benefits yet, thats after. It gives you some more info to tailor your answers, and it gets them talking so you're not so on the spot, you can build your rapport with them before having to go on display. Use the time to assess the interviewer as well as the job.

Now at this point you got a decision to make, how long are you intending to stay there, probably not long. But they do not want to hire again in 3 months right. So are you going to lie and say you're there for life and then fuck off, or do you say you're there for 2 years and actually do it. Up to you really, whatever moral trip floats your boat.... But this leads into the next point.

  1. You want THIS job. It suits your hours, your ambission, whatever. If you tailored your CV right and have sold the image it will look right. You are essentially lying but you've really got to sell it.

After you're out of there you can't control it so just hurry up and wait. If they ring and say no, be polite, say you're available if the situation changes and move on. You'd be suprised how often you only just missed out.

If you get it, don't let them regret it. work hard, don't be late all that shit. Moving on up is another much longer post so meh. but if the above doesn't get you a job in a month or two I'd be suprised. And yes it does take that long, but once you're in hang on to it like grim death until you get a chance to jump to something better, and make sure your landing is clear before you jump.

Good luck, hope it helps.

[–]Trinitykill 0 points1 point ago

Hmm, unfortunately I pretty much do everything you suggested except add a photo and make my CV into a PDF and I've been searching for pretty much a year now.

I should note that I live in a small town, so there isn't actually many jobs that appear, and most need a driving license. Also I'm in college, so not all my hours are free which could be a turn off for employers.

Still, you'd think at least one of my applications would reach interview stage, but thank you for the advice, I appreciate it :)

[–]i_4got[S] -2 points-1 points ago

What I think Trinitykill means is that the employers for those "crappy" jobs usually don't hire the overqualified candidates because they think they will leave for a better job ASAP. It's not a matter of being too proud to take a crappy job; it's just that employers of crappy jobs will think you're too good for it, and employers of jobs you want will think you're not good enough. At least that's the situation I'm stuck in right now.

[–]sjbaldwin24 0 points1 point ago

[–]hairy_monkey 0 points1 point ago

Pretty much.... I finally got an internship kind of thing to put something on my CV. Might be an idea?

[–]bann7nghat7rs -1 points0 points ago

Hope you don't have any gaps in your work history or that you have been out of work for more than a few weeks...

[–]Mon_ 0 points1 point ago

Wow, that is the smoothest gif I've ever seen.

[–]well_glory 0 points1 point ago

I had the same problem for a while, then I just decided to lie about it. Now I'm employed.

[–]DocSporky510 0 points1 point ago

Grab your torch and pitchfork and meet us down at city hall

[–]1arrow24 0 points1 point ago

And then take into account the fact that you're the 'perfect' candidate for the job, you're well educated, willing to do pretty much anything for money, male, young and healthy. You're expected to get the job, which works against you.

[–]Bob_Chiquita 0 points1 point ago

How did you spend your summers during college? What about class projects? Your Master's degree counts as experience too.

[–]facelikeagypsy 0 points1 point ago

know that feel