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He's right (imgur.com)

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[–]aku42 54 points55 points ago

working

[–]Infammo 16 points17 points ago

It's the dilbert principle on a national scale.

[–]AdmiralSkippy 1 point2 points ago

The comic in question has a main problem in that it puts the moron in the position to decide when they want to stop the flow of productivity. While they generally stay out of the current out of fear of being swept away, sometimes they get hot and want to go for a swim, which fucks it up for the rest of us.

[–]tawtaw 12 points13 points ago

  • Rush Holt (D-NJ) - PhD in particle physics

  • Bill Foster (D-IL) - PhD in particle physics - no longer serving

  • Jerry McNerney (D-CA)- PhD in differential geometry

  • Steve Kagen (D-WI)- allergist/immunologist

  • Vern Ehlers (R- MI) - PhD in nuclear physics - no longer serving

  • Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)- PhD in physiology

  • Dan Benishek (R-MI)- surgeon

  • Andrew Harris (R-MD)- anesthesiologist

[–]Bucephalas 1 point2 points ago

For my friends in Illinois 11th district, there's still hope! Bill Foster is running a tight race against Judy Biggert.

He helped discover the top quark! If you or any of your friends live in the Chicago suburbs, please help get out the vote. Aurora, Joliet, Bollingbrook, this means you! Woodridge, Darien, and Naperville also have substantial chunks in the 11th.

I've been helping with some of the Democratic volunteers in the Chicago suburbs, please PM me if you want a smart, liberal, business-owning particle physicist in congress as much as I do.

[–]tawtaw 1 point2 points ago

Well that's cool. Personally, my only IL friends are down at UIUC.

I'm kind of surprised comment got this much attention even though it was posted close to a week after this submission. Ah, I see /r/atheism crosspost.

[–]Aradon 62 points63 points ago

We want lawyers writing law, but it would be nice if they had strong scientist advisors however.

[–]Jigsus 14 points15 points ago

I'd rather the lawyers be the advisors not the decission makers.

[–]powercow 11 points12 points ago

But they dont have to be our reps. Just like they can have scientist advisers, they can have lawyer writers. Just like a corp has a ceo with a vision and a team of lawyers to make sure when enacting his vision, he does so within the law.

the laws are going to be written by lawyers regardless, doesnt mean all our reps have to be lawyers.

[–]Nodbugger 16 points17 points ago

They do, they are called lobbyists.

[–]JuanEatspandas 14 points15 points ago

still lawyers usually

[–]powercow 11 points12 points ago

usually former politicians as well. It's part of the scum lifecycle. Lawyer>politician>lobbyist>caymen beach resident.

[–]stillSmotPoker1 -1 points0 points ago

buffering

[–]illskillz 4 points5 points ago

Congressmen don't actually write the law. Bureaucrats (that are also lawyers) write the law based on directive's given to them from elected officials.

[–]InfallibleBiship 0 points1 point ago

How many fargin laws do we need?

[–]thisismy307thaccount 0 points1 point ago

Just enough to keep you down. Pick up that can.

[–]bettorworse -2 points-1 points ago

I'm pretty sure Congress has access to the best minds in the world.

[–]CowboySpencer 13 points14 points ago

He missed part of the point (intentionally, I'm sure) - most of Congress are millionaires. It takes money to get into Congress, and I can vouch that scientists do not get rich.

[–]Plaisantin 0 points1 point ago

Applied Scientists are usually pretty rich. Geophysicists, Oceanographers, engineers... these guys usually make a shitload in the private sector.

[–]Sventertainer 0 points1 point ago

The government is a business, it usually takes businessmen and lawyers to get in. Also all that money.

[–]MisterHousey 2 points3 points ago

the government is not a business.

[–]thisismy307thaccount 3 points4 points ago

You're right, it's a racket.

[–]BlockingMars 0 points1 point ago

The govt is literally the servant of the people. At least in the US. It is supposed to be that way. But then there is the "Road to Serfdom" we are heading down.

[–]Gauzinite 0 points1 point ago

I only tooked me a turnip, milord. My family is starving!gets beheaded

[–]Nisas 0 points1 point ago

The govt is the servant of their campaign donors. More than any other factor, the amount of money your campaign has decides the result of congressional elections. Buying a congressman is one of the most effective business decisions a company can make.

[–]BroncoChevalier 19 points20 points ago

Most scientists don't have the ego and self-righteous that drive politicians.

[–]pseudocubic 19 points20 points ago

I think you might be surprised. It can take a lot of ego and self-righteousness to be a successful scientist these days. You need to be able to get grant money, which is basically like the scientist equivalent of running for office, especially in light of the current state of federal science funding, where only a very small percent of proposals from academic institutions are funded.

[–]penguinsSC 5 points6 points ago

Actually a lot of scientists I've met have large ego's

[–]researchscientist 0 points1 point ago

as a scientist, yes, absolutely true. mine is rather immense

[–]asdfasddsa 0 points1 point ago

you'd be surprised! here are some unusual things my local politicians delved in: geology, biophysics, mathematics, philosophy.

the same is also true of some US politicians.

[–]SMB73 -2 points-1 points ago

And besides, just like Climate Change if the answer isn't profitable enough for someone who's deep in their pocket then they'll deny it.

[–]firebadmattgood 2 points3 points ago

You appear to be saying that climate change is a hoax. Have I understood you correctly?

[–]SMB73 1 point2 points ago

You have not. What I'm saying is that something as important as climate change gets swept under the rug because there's too much money to be made from big business.

[–]firebadmattgood 0 points1 point ago

Thanks for clarifying.

[–]taosahpiah 7 points8 points ago

I'd rather have philosophers!

[–]bwalsh1 5 points6 points ago

I prefer philosophers serving coffee.

[–]Elvvood 4 points5 points ago

What profession do all of these medical doctors have? Medicine? Where are all the businessmen? The magicians? The soldiers?

[–]Easih 1 point2 points ago

to be fair he said law not lawyer there is a difference.Medicine actually look for candidate who have different degree(with the few science required class to get into medicine of course) than the typical biology undergraduate because that's pretty much what most of them are and that's not beneficial to the profession if everyone is the same.

[–]BadMotorFinger77 2 points3 points ago

Because scientists and engineers aren't very charismatic...

[–]ikantspeell 2 points3 points ago

Why doesn't he run for office?

[–]savagedm 2 points3 points ago

Would you rather people who are experts on law crafting laws, or people who do it as a hobby? I can tell you, from experience, many lawyers have science backgrounds. Most have a profound appreciation for science and art. A lot of our problems are just caused by a few old farts who consolidated enough power before people had the good sense to realize they are bat shit crazy.

[–]youcanthandlethe 7 points8 points ago

Actually, very few, if any, current politicians have been practicing lawyers. Most are businessmen who obtained a law degree. I would guess that none are currently practicing, except to the extent that a few may be partners in large firms, who are for all practical purposes simply lobbyists. For all the kneejerk atheists who will downvote me, I'm drawing a distinction between profession and degree. I agree with his point that the hard sciences are underrepresented in Washington.

[–]AgentVanillaGorilla 4 points5 points ago

He didn't say anything about practicing lawyers though. He said law. I think you're getting too caught up on the word professions.

[–]youcanthandlethe -1 points0 points ago

Perhaps, but there's a big difference between having a law degree and practicing law as a profession, which I would say tends to instill pragmatism. I believe that one of the biggest problems in modern government is that there are so few politicians who have real work experience of any kind.

[–]stillSmotPoker1 1 point2 points ago

What would be a qualifier.

[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point ago

Why don't we see businessmen with science degrees?

[–]youcanthandlethe 2 points3 points ago

Good question. I have seen engineers who get an MBA or start their own companies, but that's about it. I honestly think that most people in the hard sciences would rather leave the money aspect of it to someone else, they don't have any patience for games and backstabbing I guess.

[–]stillSmotPoker1 -3 points-2 points ago

Why did you say Atheists? Am I in r/atheist? I'm a Atheist and now I'm confused?ಠ_ಠ Perhaps you meant republicans, teabaggers,those radio jerks,that insane blonde maybe. I don't know why Atheist in a political and law making rant?

[–]adamfogle 4 points5 points ago

yes... the LAST thing we want is lawyers creating law.

[–]illskillz 1 point2 points ago

bureaucrats are the one's writing up laws... not congressmen. Congressmen give directives to the bureaucratic lawyers on key elements the laws must possess.

[–]bcarle -2 points-1 points ago

I would agree, but the lawyers don't seem to be reading the laws they're voting on.

[–]adamfogle 1 point2 points ago

that's a pretty broad statement. SOME don't read the legislation they vote on but others do.

[–]bcarle 1 point2 points ago

That's absolutely fair, withdrawn.

[–]stillSmotPoker1 -3 points-2 points ago

buffering

[–]SgianDubh 0 points1 point ago

Few congressmen are lawyers. In any event, their profession is "politician," nothing more

[–]plain_name -2 points-1 points ago

All those people are too smart to enter politics. They recognize you have to surrender your soul or your common sense to do so.

[–]SMB73 1 point2 points ago

Don't forget an extra helping of sacrificed morals so.

[–]bettorworse -1 points0 points ago

They are "smart" in their own areas. Whether that translates into being "smart" in the types of things that government deals with is a different story.

[–]Duderino316 0 points1 point ago

Unfortunately Engineers, Scientists, etc. make bad politicians.

[–]thisismy307thaccount 2 points3 points ago

As far as I can tell, lawyers and businessmen make bad politicians.

[–]elebrin 0 points1 point ago

Sure, but "business owner" encompasses a very wide variety of professions. And really, I think our lawmakers probably need to know the law so lawyers are in a really good position for that.

[–]TheGilotine 0 points1 point ago

This is mildly out of context thought. It's like going to NASA and being shocked it's full of engineers.

Natural sciences and social sciences are different for a reason to think they can do a better job is to belittle others education. Let's stick to playing in our own playgrounds

[–]ArcanumIE 1 point2 points ago

Hello my name is Jared! I am a student who will finish his Masters in Forensic Chemistry this year! The only reason I have taken these courses is so that you, the people, will elect me into office! As far as administration goes I have only the vaguest clue, but I do represent Science!

[–]mememellie 0 points1 point ago

It's pathetic that it probably took you Neil deGrasse Tyson's influence to realize that.

[–]drazgo 0 points1 point ago

The term most of you are grasping for is "Citizen Politicians" and yes, we need a return of them.

[–]BlockingMars 0 points1 point ago

Interesting term. I assume it means a literal "public servant to the people"?

[–]mokolodi1 0 points1 point ago

My congressman IS a rocket scientist.

(but actually, look up Rush Holt)

[–]brody10123 0 points1 point ago

Of course he's right. He's Neil Goddamn DeGrasse Tyson

[–]MisterHousey 0 points1 point ago

maybe he should run?

[–]Robocop62 0 points1 point ago

Actually adding value to our society, and solving problems, and contributing to the advancement of the human race

[–]nb_dude 0 points1 point ago

As an engineering student about to graduate, I think I could do a much better job than some of the wackos out there. Maybe I will sometime....maybe I will....

[–]l337Ninja 1 point2 points ago

Relevant xkcd: http://xkcd.com/592/

[–]pyalot 0 points1 point ago

Yes he's right. But he leaves out a bit as well. The main job of congress is to pass laws. The entire mechanism of governance is passing law. Maybe the rest of life is elsewhere because nobody except lawyers seriously considers it his life's work to pass laws, all day long, every day.

[–]BlockingMars 0 points1 point ago

Who is the guy? I have seen him before and I really wanna know who he is. :D

[–]lavezzoli 0 points1 point ago

They're all too smart...

[–]eric323 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, where are all the art directors and the actors and teachers?

[–]bonejanglez 0 points1 point ago

Ron Paul is an OBGYN... just sayin

[–]SnallTrippin 0 points1 point ago

To be fair one should have a grounding in law...to make laws...but also to be fair...I'm in law school.

[–]JerCarr 1 point2 points ago

The scientists and engineers are off actually doing something for society to improve it.

[–]CaptainJester42 -2 points-1 points ago

I would move to wherever he was running just to Vote for Neil Degrasse Tyson. He needs to run for congress or governor or something as a stepping stone to him running for president with Bill Fucking Nye as his running mate.

[–]vatosplace -2 points-1 points ago

They're too honest and have too much integrity to get in the cesspool of national politics.

[–]stillSmotPoker1 -3 points-2 points ago

I would so vote him in.

[–]depressingmirror -3 points-2 points ago

what has science got to do with politics, this is like going into a hospital and saying it's bad all these doctors have a degree in medicine

[–]BlockingMars 2 points3 points ago

I think he was addressing the fact that the govt is full of one-minded people.

[–]bettorworse -1 points0 points ago

No, he's wrong. Scientists have better things to do.

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