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[–]cheese-and-candy 52 points53 points ago

Plenty of rhetoric mixed in with real problems discredits the whole thing. You shouldn't do that to serious issues.

[–]tobiov 9 points10 points ago

Yeah this is about 3/4 bollocs

[–]HeWasAQuietMan 1 point2 points ago

Agreed. /r/mrmemes/ exists for a reason.

[–]ExiledSenpai 19 points20 points ago

I feel the "you aren't attractive" one is entirely false.

[–]deluks917 80 points81 points ago

I really think this chart is going way too far. A number of the "You're Fucked" items are not accurate at all. I know many men who fit these categories who get laid or have a girlfriend:

-Boring

-Obscure interests (I know alot of mtg players)

-Quiet

Some of these were definitely accurate (one night stands) but this list is very over the top. I do not like what seeing this list all the time means for the MRA.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

You're fucked... unless you get lucky, lower your standards, pretend to be someone else around woman, or make up for this failing in some other way.

I think that fits better; I'm a geek and have no problem finding women, but I know quite a few who do; or, are dating someone just to not be single, lacking any real interest in her. That said, if this was reduced to just the serious and obvious problems, it would be better.

[–]Comowl 0 points1 point ago

You're fucked... unless you get lucky, lower your standards, pretend to be someone else around woman, or make up for this failing in some other way.

This is the same for both men and women, not just men.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

True, but women do get by much more easily with fewer adjustments. I definitely know a women who has a few of the petty problems, and they are often the reason her relationships fail... but people do keep asking her out. The guys I know with those problems don't get asked out; though, both are usually rejected when doing the asking.

So, in the end they both end up at the same place, but she's gotten to date and have sex along the way. They're both fucked, but not equally.

Meh, realistically, this sort of thing should be last on the MRM agenda.

[–]CptSeaCow 18 points19 points ago

Yeah, there were quite a few I was going to object to, but the truth is quite a few were also accurate. I have a terrible phobia of rejection, as such I won't ask a girl out. I've come to grips with the reality that as such I will probably never have a relationship. Women don't deal with that. But the author by far blew some of the the concepts out of proportion.

[–]alaysian 2 points3 points ago

not always true. My first gf asked me out, so there is hope. It becomes more likely the older you get.

[–]zacistan 15 points16 points ago

Also, a lot of them are not only bad for the men, but bad for the women too.

[–]realberbersilver 3 points4 points ago

Seriously. Since when is being expected to orgasm quickly and with ease a good thing? Or being judged solely on your appearance, rather than your interests, personality, or ambition? Being expected to not "play sports or go to the gym"? Having your feelings dismissed as "your time of the month" or "women are just emotional"? I wouldn't consider any of these advantages.

This is just so... complainy. It's all about how this guy is boring, unambitious, socially awkward, and physically weak, and is bitter because he thinks that women can get away with being all of these things if they're just attractive.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

Exactly. This makes us look like radicals, but if it were just toned down a bit it would actually make some very good points.

[–]fondueguy 6 points7 points ago

I don't think it looks radical, just immature for the setting we want.

I do think the photo is clever for something like Facebook.

[–]trecol 3 points4 points ago

To be fair, radical and immature are not all that different.

[–]MissRepresentation 11 points12 points ago

Wait, if you have a shitty dead-end job, the solution that will fix all your problems is to be an attractive female? Guess I didn't get the memo.

[–]RoundSparrow -1 points0 points ago

if you have a shitty dead-end job, the solution that will fix all your problems is to be an attractive female? Guess I didn't get the memo.

Dustin Hoffman did a documentary movie on this

[–]eulerup 7 points8 points ago

Really, you don't give a flying fuck if you go on a date with a woman who has no money, college plans or friends? Is a dead fish in bead? Was emotionally abusive because it's "that time of the month"? If all of those things are OK with you or anyone else then you/ they seriously re-evaluate your dating standards.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

what standards? OP clearly hates himself so much, as long as she's alive and has a vagina that's enough for him XD

[–]yourfaceyourass 39 points40 points ago

This is completely over simplified false dichotomy.

And why did someone with absolutely no post history and a new account make this?

[–]Charwinger21 6 points7 points ago

This is a REALLY old image (although it appears to be the super extended version which rarely ever pops up)

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[–]Klaue 7 points8 points ago

Dude... what's up with that link? Were you trying to link to a google result page or something? 'cause it's not working.

[–]Charwinger21 4 points5 points ago

GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH!!!!!!

It's the way of the future.

The link is working for me with Chrome and IE, and I just realized that I don't currently have FF installed. Oddly, it doesn't seem to be working with Opera though.

[–]buylocal745 8 points9 points ago

As an Opera using hipster, I can confirm this fact.

[–]droctagonapus 0 points1 point ago

Using Opera isn't hipster--it's smart!

[–]HeWasAQuietMan 0 points1 point ago

Upvoting you two. :D

[–]fondueguy 3 points4 points ago

Are are all those symbols really necessary?

: )

[–]Charwinger21 1 point2 points ago

Yes.

[–]DallasTruther 2 points3 points ago

Was it too hard to do [this]...?

[–]Charwinger21 1 point2 points ago

Nah, I just like showing off how long that link is. It's a male ego thing.

[–]DallasTruther -1 points0 points ago

Gotcha. Who wouldn't want a few extra characters?

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[–]masterphoenix113 0 points1 point ago

Is that a wart on the penis?

[–]DallasTruther 3 points4 points ago

Excuse: Drinking.

But looking at it, that def looks like a wart.

Well.

Thanks for making me remember my mother seeing a spot on my face, then giving me some of her genital wart meds. Awesome.

[–]douglasmacarthur 13 points14 points ago

This is really exaggerated and one-sided. We face some double standards. So do they.

[–]willmaster123 18 points19 points ago

God dammit.

Lets be honest here, a good 90% of these are wrong. I understand your seeking equality for me, but not to the point where your insulting women by saying that they get everything better.

[–]Not_A_Triceratops 10 points11 points ago

Who upvotes this stuff? A lot of those things are flat out FALSE. Like how being an unattractive, poor, boring, uneducated, lazy, overly emotional, abused person with no career aspects, friends or sexual prowess will magically be made easy if you just have a vagina. Bull. Shit.

[–]kazagistar 8 points9 points ago

This looks like it comes from the most bitter ends of foreveralone. Seriously guys. If you want to make an argument say "I agree with your double standards, here is some places where you could make it easier for guys as well." Not "You are an evil womanz and wrong about everything and guys have it soooooo hard" and a bunch of bullshit about oppression.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

probably a "nice guy" who got tired of being friend zoned.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

That chart was 4x longer than expected. I kept expecting the bottom to drop out and the arguments get really thin. They never did and made me realize that shit is more biased in this society than I thought it was.

Btw I am sitting alone at a bar waiting for my date to show up and buy her drinks. She is currently 20 minutes late. I am leaving now.

[–]Comowl 0 points1 point ago

...Really? You don't think that many of these arguments are 'really thin'? Come on.

[–]ExistentLOList 8 points9 points ago

Yeah, everytime this image is brought up, the consensus is generally the same - this is stupid and hurts the legitimacy of an issue that is actually quite serious. So stop it.

PS - I'm gay and a female, so I have no idea how this relates to me, anyway.

[–]thefuckdude 2 points3 points ago

shit now im confused, are you serious or is this some kind of insider-joke that i dont get? not that i would mind if you were serious, but i really need to know.

[–]ExistentLOList 3 points4 points ago

What part, specifically, is confusing you? I'll clarify.

[–]masterphoenix113 2 points3 points ago

According to the chart, and as a heterosexual male, I'm "supposed" to say "that's really hot!"

I'll be on my way now.

[–]Froztwolf 3 points4 points ago

Thank you. I now understand why people that are anti-MRA like to use the "You are just upset because you can't get laid" argument from time to time. It's because of bullshit like this.

[–]realberbersilver 2 points3 points ago

A lot of these seem to assume that the woman in question is attractive. Oh, you're boring or unlikeable or have no career prospects? All you have to do is be attractive, and you're set. But if you're not attractive, you're fucked. You make it seem like an advantage that women are judged so much on how they look, but that's only an advantage if you look good.

There are a lot of things on here that you count as positives for women that aren't. You create this narrative that guys don't care about a woman's education, job, ambitions, friends, or personality, so long as she's attractive, whereas poor men get judged on whether or not they have friends, ambition, and a good personality. Do you not see how that's not good for women? How, if that were how the world worked, most of us wouldn't think of it as an advantage?

I just don't understand what's with all of the "it's so hard for me to get a date/get laid" stuff. What does that have to do with men's rights? What are you actually mad about, or what do you want to change? Do you think that it should be harder for women to get sex (are you calling upon men to stop having sex so indiscriminately)? Or do you think it should be easier for men to get sex (are you calling on women to start having more casual sex, or lower their standards)?

Overall, your few real points just get lost in a sea of "it's so unfair that people judge me based on who I am and what I do, if I were a woman people would just treat me like a blow-up doll and it would be so awesome." First, that's not actually true--tons of guys are discerning enough to judge women based on personality, social life, intelligence, etc. And second, if it were true, it wouldn't exactly be a utopia for women.

[–]dazhealy 6 points7 points ago

Wow.. What the fuck made you so jaded that you would post that. Some of the things are fair and accurate but you go and ruin it by posting hyperbole and blatant lies. Im all for mr, but mysogony is as sickening as misandry. Its posts like this that stop people taking mr seriously. If you are a troll, then you suck because you were called on it. If you are genuinely serious then I hope you realise what a contemptuous arsehole you're being.

[–]jay76 6 points7 points ago

Accused of being gay?

That's like accusing me of being a bus driver - who cares? There's an opportunity for the accused to just be mature here.

EDIT: Shortened.

[–]fondueguy 0 points1 point ago

There's more to it than that, but with enough guys taking on your attitude, the whole list can be fixed.

"You don't find me interesting? Ok, start an interesting conversation then..."

[–]fightONstate 4 points5 points ago

This is absolutely hilarious. Nothing more, nothing less. I read this just for the entertainment factor.

[–]SirOinksalot 5 points6 points ago

Can you guys cut the victimization crap for 10 minutes?

Imagine the perspective of this stereotypical woman you depict. You see her as getting a free pass. Truth is she's got her own social constructs to deal with because each of these things are more accurately described as "I can't do X because it's socially taboo and condemned as being unfeminine".

The shit posts like this that exist for no other reason than to attack women really make it tough for me, a man, to sympathise with the few legitimate issues MRAs advocate.

[–]twitchygecko 1 point2 points ago

Even though I agree with large portions of this, it won't convince anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's too hostile, and doesn't acknowledge any of their points.

[–]DerpMatt 0 points1 point ago

"Well, if women were seen as equal then...."

[–]mistyriver 0 points1 point ago

I agree with you... everyone has their problems and certain difficulties can be specifically linked to gender relations... but I think men do generally get the short end of the stick in life in our society.

Men are the workhorses, and women are the delicate little flowers - the aesthetes.

[–]Smallpaul -1 points0 points ago

What is it about misogynists that leads them to prefer the word "female" to "women."

[–]Kantor48 -2 points-1 points ago

A lot of this chart is pretty accurate.

However, the suggestion that male masturbation is at all socially stigmatised is the most ludicrous thing I've heard today.

It's interesting to note that most of that is down to men rather than women. You can't keep a group of people that size down without their consent. Indeed, the same happened to women before the 20th century.

EDIT: I know this comment is terrible but I'll leave it up anyway

[–]levelate 2 points3 points ago

You can't keep a group of people that size down without their consent

i don't even know where to begin with this, what you posted was such trite, buzz-word crap, that it is hardly worthy of a response.

[–]Kantor48 1 point2 points ago

I am beginning to realise that now that I've had a good nights sleep.

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