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[–]Hash3m 10 points11 points ago

Atheism does not and should not imply that you're against religion. I think, by definition, you mean antitheist.

[–]aDaneInSpain 1 point2 points ago

Maybe that comment got him thinking and thus he became an atheist? He might not be an antitheist, although you are probably right.

[–]ralph-j 0 points1 point ago

They're not mutually exclusive. Antitheists are also atheists.

The reason (it teaches...) can cause both atheism and anti-theism at the same time.

[–]fallen79 1 point2 points ago

Didnt Marilyn Manson say that, too

[–]MrVenator 5 points6 points ago

I'm an atheist because I don't believe in God. No need to make it anti anything.

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[–]DumbAsPooDoo -3 points-2 points ago

...Of course it is. It says right there, "I am against religion".

[–]myztry -1 points0 points ago

You can also believe in gods and not believe in religion.

The two are only connected because the religions, not the gods, tell you they are.

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[–]onlymadethistoargue 0 points1 point ago

Let's not confuse atheism with antitheism. You should be an atheist because you don't think there's a god. You should be against religion (as it says in the quote) if you think that religion itself is bad.

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[–]onlymadethistoargue -2 points-1 points ago

It's true, but a lot of people will disagree with what Dawkins wrote. It's just the way of the world.

[–]aDaneInSpain -2 points-1 points ago

But you can be both - right?

[–]onlymadethistoargue -2 points-1 points ago

Well, antitheism presumably necessitates atheism. It's a squares-rectangles kind of thing.

[–]aDaneInSpain 0 points1 point ago

Could you not hold a personal belief in a deity (of some sort) but be against organised religion?

[–]onlymadethistoargue -1 points0 points ago

Well, going by the anti-theism expressed in the quote, no. But I suppose under a different view on anti-theism, yes, it is possible.

I guess it's more of a squares-rectangles-parallelograms thing.

[–]foxytr900 2 points3 points ago

you are athiest because you read an anti religious quote by someone famous?

that's almost as brainless as fundies, can't you think of your own reasons and make up your own mind as to why you are atheist, rather than regurgitate quotes, you puppet

[–]Bjoernzor 2 points3 points ago

Having the same reason is not the same as blindly following someone :/ This is also one of the main reasons i'm an anti theist.

[–]foxytr900 0 points1 point ago

im not religious at all, (never haver been, but if someone wants to believe in something its their choice not mine, same as drink and drugs) however answer me this:

why is it that alot of atheists think they are smarter than christians because they don't believe in God?

[–]Bjoernzor 0 points1 point ago

Not smarter, just right on that perticular issue.

It might seem like "we" concider ourselves smarter, but that is just a biproduct of creationists taking offence at us claiming their views to be wrong, and they can't back their arguments up.

An easy answer to get out morally victorious of the sitation "Well you're just an arrogant atheist who thinks he is sooo smart! I have the right to believe in whatever i want!!"

Sure, you can believe in whatever you want, just don't make anyone else believe it or make anyone else suffer from it. And if you don't want me to shit on your faith-based claims, don't engage in an argument with me.

But I will engage you as soon as your religious believes get in the way of human progress, and I most definately will mock the dogma that makes you think that way. If it is desease prevention (condoms), human rights (gays and women), indoctrinating children and withholding scientific facts from them (American schools) or simply hurting and killing people not of your faith (middle-east) I will fucking react and not stand on the sidelines. I won't accept "But I can believe in whatever i want!" Call me arrogant for thinking that, I don't give a fuck.

EDIT: You = religious people, not you personally

But I personally do think it's quite ridiculous to accept world-changing views based on faith alone, and I sometimes mock people trying to justify them. Though this is not a trait i find common among atheists. That's more an anti-theist claim.

I'm an antitheist because i know the world would be a much better place without religion, or any blind dogma-following for that matter.

[–]foxytr900 -1 points0 points ago

i know the world would be a much better place without religion

impossible to say, arguments both for and against.

i actually do not understand though, how people can refute undeniable evidence, for theories such as evolution

[–]Bjoernzor 0 points1 point ago

My point is that religion in no way helps human progess, while hurting it in a lot of ways. Nothing possitive that is currently being done in the name of religion, can't be done without it.

Apply simple logic and you get that the world would objectivly be a better place without religion.

This of course only applies if you concider (like I do) better world = human progress (in for example science, human rights etc.)

[–]foxytr900 -1 points0 points ago

i think it depends more on the type of person as to whether religion could be a good thing or not, i can see nothing wrong with a dying man finding hope or a drug addict given a reason to better himself.

Obviously the lynchings, wars and oppression are wrong, but religion and science are not mutually exclusive.

[–]Bjoernzor 0 points1 point ago

But both those examples can be done without it. That's my point.

[–]foxytr900 -1 points0 points ago

i could also masturbate without lube...

no point to be made, just saying

[–]Bjoernzor 1 point2 points ago

But it would make the masturbation better. Believing in sky daddy doesn't make it easier to battle addiction. Maybe if you already believe, but the goal of my position is to remove religion so that point is irrelevant.

[–]Grymnir 1 point2 points ago

Broad generalizations are bad, m'kay? In fact, by dismissing religion wholesale, you in turn do the exact thing you espouse with this quote.

[–]Squalor- -1 points0 points ago

I've tried not to over-think my atheism.

I was raised a believer, but my family wasn't devout.

We just believed. There was hardly any practice or routine except believing and occasionally going to church on holidays.

Through high school and into college, I realized there was no reason to believe in something just because, so I stopped believing in it just as I had stopped believing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy many years before.

[–]USMC_spidey -1 points0 points ago

I too dislike religion, however I am an atheist cause... there is no god!

[–]Thevents 0 points1 point ago

That's weird - many of the greatest physicists somehow managed to somehow think about religion. Its almost like Dawkins is presenting an over-simplified perspective and some people are blindly following it without thinking about it.

http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Questions-Mystical-Writings-Physicists/dp/1570627681/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346332354&sr=8-1&keywords=physicists+mysticism

[–]whatarewereallydoing -4 points-3 points ago

So brave

[–]Random_G -2 points-1 points ago

Oh look it's THIS picture again.

[–]cmmdash -2 points-1 points ago

I don't see a problem with not being satisfied with not understanding the world. That motivates people to progress and find real explanations for why things happen.

[–]myrpou -2 points-1 points ago

Most posted quote on reddit?

[–]ChaosCon -2 points-1 points ago

Perhaps even more fundamentally, religion teaches us to think of other people as different and treat them as such.

[–]Edge35 0 points1 point ago

Honestly I think this quote is a ridiculous generalization. I am a Christian and I am in no way satisfied with not knowing how the world works. I am a scientist, specifically a biologist who works in the area of molecular evolution. I spend 5 days a week in a lab trying to understand how the world works. I don't say goddidit and move on. I work to understand how and why things are the way they are. There are many Christians who do this. Generalizations are rarely correct.

[–]heyivebeenthere -3 points-2 points ago

I think you're an atheist for the wrong reasons buddy. That's not even a good reason. Christians (at least many that I know) search for deeper things than science. They search within themselves and God/the bible to make themselves a better Christian/person; one who makes the world a better place by sharing their beliefs and helping others. Many I know even do accept the facts of science and believe the bible is there for interpretation, not straight up facts. So yay for you!