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[–]Tok1 5 points6 points ago

"You know, I don't think math is a science."

though this is true, contrary to what some of the comments here suggest mathematics is NOT a religion, for it does not make any claims about the nature/origins/meaning of existence. it merely follows symmetry (patterns) in order to construct a system in a hypothetical realm where arbitrarily many (including 0) different systems might exist.

[–]dustinechos 0 points1 point ago

It has many other similarities. You can only believe in it on faith because the foundation is un-provable. It describes a perfect, ideal realm that doesn't actually exist in reality. And most people who use it don't understand it (accountants, cashiers, engineers (come at me bro!)) and simply blindly take the word of people who also don't really understand it (I'm looking at you, American education system). The only defense of math vs religion is that it's self consistent (which some religions are, but mainstream ones tend not to be) and it comes closer to approximating reality than any religion.

[–]Ixilary 2 points3 points ago

It is true that most people don't understand why mathematical formulas work, but that doesn't make those formulas magical. If you are interested, you can always find absolutely proof for why most commonly used formulas. It might be more difficult when you get into higher level physics though.

[–]Mileskitsune 0 points1 point ago

Are you sure it's not just you who doesn't understand? (or is this a really subtle running joke?) math is like short hand for journalists. the numbers represent measurable values that the accountants or engineers know/measured. the letters are place holders for values yet to be determined. the operators represent actual actions that can be taken. and the fancy letters/symbols like i or pi are constants that always hold true when running certain formulas. its in no way imaginary (except for that i fucker)

[–]Ixilary 1 point2 points ago

And I would agree, I have no idea why you're telling me this.

[–]Mileskitsune 0 points1 point ago

my bad, i accidently clicked your reply link rather than dustinechos'

sorry

[–]Ixilary 0 points1 point ago

No problem, shit happens.

[–]dustinechos -1 points0 points ago

A good analogy would be using myths to predict the start/seasons or religious moral propositions. People 5000 years ago didn't know why not to eat pork etc. The priests probably made a connection to people getting sick and, because he didn't know they could just cook it longer, claimed God wanted it to be forbidden. Even in modern times the majority of people don't get why not stealing has real world value outside of God telling them not to. I'd argue that most rules of religion came about in this matter. In many cases the priest probably knew the real reason for the morals just like mathematicians know the real reason for the magical equations.

EDIT: I'm downvoting myself because I don't like my use of "real" in this comment.

[–]Ixilary 0 points1 point ago

Downvoting yourself? Now that's a new one.

[–]dustinechos 0 points1 point ago

I know. This made me way too proud of myself. I did something original on reddit!

[–]DuckReconMajor 11 points12 points ago

MATHEIST!

[–]BlazeOrangeDeer 6 points7 points ago

I am the mathiest.

[–]Italian_Barrel_Roll 4 points5 points ago

This might as well be the logic behind evolution denial.

[–]thetheist 1 point2 points ago

You know, I don't think math is a science.

Neither do I, Calvin.

[–]phonixor 0 points1 point ago

An axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom

you know like God=Jesus=HolySpirit...

[–]dustinechos 0 points1 point ago

It's also followed blindly by the masses. Ours is not to reason why, just invert and multiply!

[–]Joedang100 1 point2 points ago

At least math has the balls to admit which parts are magic.

[–]MobRule1997 2 points3 points ago

I don't remember this ever being run. Was this real? Edit: Grammar.

[–]ParaanoidT[S] 2 points3 points ago

[–]MobRule1997 2 points3 points ago

Calvin and Hobbes ended December 31, 1995 with this strip. Wiki article.

[–]dustinechos 2 points3 points ago

You clearly never read the comic. If you did you'd know that Calvin has access to a working time machine. He made it by turning a transmogrifier over and writing "time machine" on it.

[–]ParaanoidT[S] 0 points1 point ago

Eh it was a google find. Found it funny.

[–]bilateralchicken 2 points3 points ago

It's real. It was ran in 1991 or something, judging by the original copyright on the strip.

Bill Watterson was/is awesome.

[–]ParaanoidT[S] 0 points1 point ago

that's good to know

[–]ncocca 0 points1 point ago

was run*

I really have to stop doing this

[–]ncocca 0 points1 point ago

Haha, that was pretty funny. Thanks.

[–]BCP27 1 point2 points ago

It's real, I read it in one of my many collections.

[–]ncocca 1 point2 points ago

*being run. Sorry.

[–]razelmanilla 1 point2 points ago

The local pastor in my hometown made this his Facebook profile picture. I don't know what to think.

[–]dustinechos 0 points1 point ago

Maybe he's a C&H fan? That would put your pastor in the 99th percentile of coolness as far as the clergy goes.

[–]razelmanilla 0 points1 point ago

He is actually a damn cool guy, for a pastor. He can be hilarious when he's not quoting Scripture.

[–]Deracination -1 points0 points ago

I totally agree. Fortunately, it's a quite useful religion.

[–]MLG_Jeff 0 points1 point ago

Yay. now I have an excuse to not do math!

[–]larg3-p3nis 0 points1 point ago

That's exactly how I felt while I was studying for my math exam last summer.

[–]Thoma353 1 point2 points ago

Any gym atheists here?

[–]Grindstone50k 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, not because I'm fat and lazy, but because I hated organized sports.

[–]RaelSquonk 0 points1 point ago

I can't see this strip without seeing the badly photoshopped Ritalin parody strip in my head.

[–]DJWalnut 0 points1 point ago

link?

[–]RaelSquonk 0 points1 point ago

Here. I think you're better off not reading it, though.

[–]EscherTheLizard 0 points1 point ago

Proof that 2 + 3 = 5

2 = **

3 = ***

2 + 3 = ** + ***

** + *** = *****

***** = 5

Therefore, 2 + 3 = 5.

Where's the magic in that?

[–]jetstumpy 1 point2 points ago

He makes a point that you can't actually prove numbers exist.

[–]keoShine 0 points1 point ago

[insert Missouri joke]

[–]fintorro 0 points1 point ago

To be fair, math is just a theory.

[–]steakmykittens 0 points1 point ago

im pretty sure this commic is pro-religion.... awks?