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An Iraqi child, drawing airplanes that are dropping bombs, with a marker taped to his amputated arm (imgur.com)

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[–]Cephalophore 142 points143 points ago

This photo is part of a Pulitzer prize-winning series by Deanne Fitzmaurice. The whole piece is incredibly moving.

[–]Enti_San 34 points35 points ago

Came here just to note this, the rest of the pictures are incredibly heartbreaking as well: http://www.pulitzer.org/works/2005-Feature-Photography

[–]Akakaburito 13 points14 points ago

Wow, that's beautiful. I was caught between smiling and tears the whole time.

[–]Cephalophore 5 points6 points ago

The photos of them reuniting with his mother and sisters at the airport are what really brought the tears on for me.

[–]Akakaburito 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, the final one, when he's joking with his wife and they just look like a regular family is what hit me hardest. Although when the boy is curled up at his father's feet was strong, too.

[–]RetroTheft 1 point2 points ago

His mother's face; after he lived with his scars and was ashamed and embarrassed by them for so long, and her face there just says "they mean nothing," robs them of any power they have over him, and you just know that kid became whole again in that one second, and someone fucking captured that moment for all of us. Shit.

[–]imnotblue 4 points5 points ago

Thank you so much for adding a citation! I had the pleasure of meeting Deanne this past spring during a workshop which included a presentation on this project. She's an amazing person, very humble and helpful, and a great photographer.

[–]MrHatebreed 5 points6 points ago

This makes me always just so sad , especially when i see children man ... innocent children that even keep smiling after being treated like this ... i don't believe in god , but if there is one i wish he just gives them a life in dignity ... but then why would he let something like this happen...

[–]Ninjaboop 248 points249 points ago

This was painful and heartbreaking to see...

Fuck war.

[–]SupermanV2 71 points72 points ago

Fuck War

The new "Make love, not war" for the current generation.

[–]SOULJAR 11 points12 points ago

Make fuck, not war!

[–]deaft 6 points7 points ago

fuck

[–]glassofgas 38 points39 points ago

Fuck war not peace

[–]donpapillon 17 points18 points ago

Fuck war, love peace.

Kind of the world's relationship with both, really...

[–]whichgame 7 points8 points ago

Power to the peaceful!

[–]donpapillon 1 point2 points ago

That actually has a nice ring to it.

[–]biscobuddha 5 points6 points ago

Drop acid, not bombs!

[–]imnotblue 4 points5 points ago

Fuck war, marry peace, kill the institutions that control both

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      [–]Radico87 1 point2 points ago

      except that this one will, of course, just nag about it and not do anything.

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        [–]Cheeknuts 28 points29 points ago

        Congress should be made to look at pictures of kids maimed by war, before they can vote to take military action.

        [–]poi25 12 points13 points ago

        Have you read Drift by Rachel Maddow? It talks about how America is becoming a warring nation in recent times.

        In a large portion of it, she talks about how almost every president from Reagan up til Obama have been circumventing Congress on matters of war. An example would be the hiring of private contractors from Blackwater (I think it's called Academi now) to take part in the actual fighting. Basically, the president has been using soldiers for hire to start the wars the president wants to start.

        This has been going on since Reagan but is not limited to republican presidents.

        Edit: Reagan was the biggest user of this method of war. Iran-Contra comes to mind

        [–]Lightfoot 49 points50 points ago

        This is the problem when you live in a country that has no possibility of ever seeing a real war land on its soil. We are so well protected that our security has turned to apathy. The US cannot imagine the horrors of war because we've never seen it personally, sure we have soldiers that have seen it on enemy turf... but its not the same as watching your home burn, seeing your family blown apart and your community completely decimated.

        War only creates more ardent opponents. Imagine a country more powerful than the US, imagine them saying they are more powerful because they are more noble and more free than you, and then imagine them attacking you to spread their freedom and nobility to you. Your family is killed and they claim to not understand how you cannot embrace their freedom, their gift to you... and all you want to do is kill every last person that took away everything you ever loved.

        [–]Spraguerer 8 points9 points ago

        I don't understand how people in America never make the connection between losing family and hatred of the responsible members. If I was an Iraqi and the random American bomb killed my family. You don't wanna know my thoughts after that. In any context. If I was a Ukrainian during the Bolshevik revolution... You better believe I would hate communism and Stalin.

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          [–]seagramsextradrygin 20 points21 points ago

          Voters should be made to look at pictures of congress looking at pictures of kids maimed by war as they decide to take military action.

          [–]Montuckian 5 points6 points ago

          And just like that, the rest of C-SPAN's viewers desert the channel.

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            [–]Steelcowinc 12 points13 points ago

            Even better, everyone who thinks we should go to war or votes to go to war should be handed a rifle and told they ship out tomorrow.

            [–]Hammers_and_Mirrors 2 points3 points ago

            They gladly accept and go to war and commit these atrocities. Boy do I love the enlisted.

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                [–]gaping_your_mother 3 points4 points ago

                Look at all that freedom he has now.

                [–]wrinkled_penis -1 points0 points ago

                Fuck American politicians. FTFY

                [–]Qinella 13 points14 points ago

                Yep, only America has corrupt politicians.

                [–]Master119 6 points7 points ago

                And only America is involved in Iraq. Every other country that sent armed soldiers, they were totally just hanging out at the base.

                Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.

                http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat_coalition.htm

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                      [–]Zahne1977 182 points183 points ago

                      What did people think the "Shock and Awe" bullshit they were cheering for was doing?

                      [–]WannabeGroundhog 50 points51 points ago

                      Knew a girl who was convinced the US had ZERO civilian casualties in war, EVER. Said we'd never kill innocent people.

                      Our men and women overseas are doing their job, and war is bloody, but that doesn't mean we're allowed to forget the true face of war. The more cameras, TVs and computers we have to see the war, the less of it we actually see.

                      [–]holyice7 18 points19 points ago

                      I'd prefer graphic newsreels in movie theaters again, as opposed to fourteen television commercials prior to a movie.

                      Hollywood celebs want to do something political? Do something that doesn't involve me having to hear your voice.

                      [–]sifsilver1 8 points9 points ago

                      I don't mean to say something very unpatriotic, but a lot of these "soldiers" that we have don't exactly enter the field as men. They are still boys that enjoy shooting things like it's Halo or Call of Duty. They only grow up when a child is dying in their arms, some...not even then.

                      [–]WannabeGroundhog 11 points12 points ago

                      Unfortunately I know this. In highschool I knew quite a few racist redneck idiots who were joining the army to "shoot some fucking towel-headed sand-niggers"

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                        [–]ATworkguy 3 points4 points ago

                        Are you high - with all the video coverage (so at live coverage) - we see more now then ever - Some say that we take our security for granted (BS - I for one love that fact that open warfare is not a immediate threat) - One thing most people fail to grasp, the US is the only military that does not keep what it takes, name any country that gets in to war and then leaves (after WW2 we started the practice of fixing the country that we just bombed) - In Roman times, a Cohort of troops would be given tracks of land - they then seattled and created more Roman - We could have, drop leaflets telling the population that war was coming because we were attacked, then leveled the entire country, and then walked away - think about that - our country is in economic recession, yet we have rebuilt one country and part of another

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                          [–]iamadogforreal 127 points128 points ago

                          Those who criticized this were marginalized by the corporate media. Heck, I can barely mention that the US killed 100,000+ innocent men, women, and children without getting a fuckton of downvotes here in reddit and places like slashdot. I have no idea who injured this kid, but if George Bush didn't cook up intel for WMDs (mobile anthrax labs, yellow cake, nuclear weapons, etc) a lot more Iraqis would be alive and this kid would have his arms.

                          [–]Growing4Freedom 30 points31 points ago

                          Can't blame it all on bush look who was pulling the strings. Anders Rasmussen the new NATO Secretary General also duped his country Denmark, which ended up causing its parliament to colapse.

                          [–]kingguru 12 points13 points ago

                          I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but the Danish parliament didn't collapse. We had an election after Anders Fogh Rasmussen had left for NATO and the opposition gained power.

                          None of this had to do with the invasion of Iraq though. That was, unfortunately, not discussed a lot even though Anders Fogh had led the country to war for the first time since 1864.

                          The guy was and is a cynical asshole, there is no doubt about that.

                          [–]blaowppow 3 points4 points ago

                          I highly doubt that Bush or the other guy actually did much of the work themselves. Money talks y'all.

                          [–]metaldogman 15 points16 points ago

                          The military industrial complex is not a conspiracy theory it is a business model.

                          Behind the history of most wars lies a very straight forward economic foundation for the purveyor of weapons and military supplies.

                          [–]sanph 5 points6 points ago

                          The fact that you can't remember the name "Cheney" doesn't speak well to your level of credibility in making political statements.

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                              [–]ThePoose 0 points1 point ago

                              Because independent investigations have found that other Iraqis are responsible for the vast majority of those deaths. You get down voted because you are not presenting information based in fact.

                              [–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

                              I can barely mention that the US killed 100,000+ innocent men, women, and children without getting a fuckton of downvotes here in reddit and places like slashdot.

                              That's because your statement is fucking untrue. The US is directly responsible for about 8000 deaths in Iraq and 8000 deaths in Afghanistan.

                              http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

                              The rest of the 100000+ deaths are insurgents that murder their own people. Large amount of them die from IED's is suicide bombers.

                              Before you go off on some dumb fucking tangent about there would be no IED's if America wasn't there, let me just stop you. As most completely ignorant reddit douche bags are completely oblivious to the fact that Afganistan was in the middle of a civil war when the US arrived and civilian casualties actually dropped when the US got there. More people have clean water and roads/ bridges than ever in history.

                              Iraq had a brutal dictator who butchered 600000 people and put them in mass graves we are still finding today.

                              So before you go on some douchey "fuck America" garbage rant, maybe make an attempt to inform yourself...

                              70 people upvoted your fucking retarded circlejerk comment... this is why people laugh at reddit.

                              [–]Hamstafish 2 points3 points ago

                              the Iraqui body count project lists the casulties as between 104,59 and 114,260

                              Who did the killing? 37%. US-led forces killed 37% of civilian victims. 9%. Anti-occupation forces/insurgents killed 9% of civilian victims. 36%. Post-invasion criminal violence accounted for 36% of all deaths. 11%. Unknown agents (11%).

                              read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Body_Count_project for more info on iraq war casualty counts

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                                [–]AFewSecondsAgoDouche 15 points16 points ago

                                Yep.

                                You mention pure facts, such as the civilian death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Americans here bury it with downvotes.

                                All eager to claim a part of NASA's accomplishments, yet trying to bury, deny and distance the part every American had to play in the unjust invasion of a country and the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of its civilians.

                                [–]lustre12 21 points22 points ago

                                Yeah, America is never criticized about the wars on Reddit. /s

                                [–]mainsworth 30 points31 points ago

                                The civilian death toll in Iraq is mainly the result of Iraqi on Iraqi violence...

                                e: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

                                Total deaths from coalition forces:

                                14,837 (13%) of all documented civilian deaths were reported as being directly caused by the US-led coalition.

                                [–]smashybashy 13 points14 points ago

                                While Saddam's government did nothing wrong.
                                Except massacre nearly 200,000 Kurds

                                [–]mainsworth 11 points12 points ago

                                Much like Osama Bin Laden, Saddam is a misunderstand freedom fighter.

                                [–]smashybashy 7 points8 points ago

                                Honestly Saddam Hussein might as well be Jesus he's so good.

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                                  [–]Olyeller 3 points4 points ago

                                  Source?

                                  [–]mainsworth 4 points5 points ago

                                  I don't really have a lot of time to search for a lot of sources, but here's a story from USA Today ( I know, not the best).

                                  http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2011-01-12-1Aied12_ST_N.htm

                                  Here's a relevant quote:

                                  Estimates vary among organizations that have tried to count civilian dead, according to a review last year by the Congressional Research Service. The Iraqi Ministry of Human Rights reported that 85,694 Iraqi civilians died from insurgent attacks from 2004 through 2008. The Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, estimated that more than 111,000 Iraqis died from war-related incidents from 2003 through 2010.

                                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

                                  How the fuck do you need a source for that? It's common knowledge to anyone outside of reddit.

                                  http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

                                  This is just Iraq, select coalition forces no Iraqi state forces

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                                    [–]WhyAreYouNotStudying 3 points4 points ago

                                    What a cheap way to get upvotes.

                                    [–]Delvil 0 points1 point ago

                                    a majority of negative karma on reddit doesn't mean shit. seriously, the majority here will make the most innocuous comments negative karma over the littlest details.

                                    so many times have I seen two comments, almost identical in their stance, only their wording or how circlejerk-y they are differs, one with a shitload of negative karma and one that's a top comment.

                                    seriously- don't take a downvote majority to mean anything. Anything at all. it means nothing significant. it's bullshit.

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                                      [–]Sommerfaq 8 points9 points ago

                                      100,000? You need to stop getting your news from /r/worldnews. Reddit LOVES hating America, stop acting like you are some kind of misunderstood vigilante. Still, the world benefits from U.S. policing, whether you accept that or not.

                                      Saddam Hussein offered the U.S. oil for $10 a barrel, if they wouldn't intervene in his invasion of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The U.S. intervened and now we pay full price for oil from the Kuwaitis and they benefit greatly from it. They don't pay military tax, and now they are filthy rich from all thte oil we are buying off of them. A lot of countries don't have to worry about homeland security and their military because of the U.S.

                                      [–]Master119 6 points7 points ago

                                      Kosovo anybody? We're always dicks for getting into other peoples problems, but we're dicks if we don't.

                                      [–]zZGz 1 point2 points ago

                                      Name one war where civilians didn't die.

                                      This is a new type of war. It used to be "this uniform vs that uniform.". That's not how it is in this case. Anyone could potentially be a terrorist. Not saying everyone is or justifying killing a bunch of civilians because they might be threats, but when you are leading an army put in a position where you can't tell if someone is your friend or foe, shit will happen.

                                      [–]gnorty 0 points1 point ago

                                      When you forcibly depose a foreign government an execute a leader who is popular with a significant portion of the population, damn right you can't tell who is your friend. FFS

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                                        [–]n1eb 2 points3 points ago

                                        What you obviously don't realize is that Iraq WANTED it to look like they had WMD's. The USA wasn't their only concern, Iran was a major threat to Iraq. Iraq needed Iran to think they had the capability to effectively fight in a war should one occur again.

                                        Your assertion that GB "cooked up intel" is misleading and false. Saddam did everything he could to make it look like these activities were occurring without actually having the substances on site.

                                        Saddam was betting that he the USA wouldn't step in, he was wrong.

                                        [–]jdcooktx -5 points-4 points ago

                                        Because the US didn't kill 100000 civilians.

                                        [–]iamadogforreal 29 points30 points ago

                                        The US destabilized a country by invading it. They are responsible for everything that happened because if they didn't violate Iraq's sovereignty a lot more people would be alive today. All this was predicted before the war but people preferred to buy into lies like "cakewalk" and "yellowcake" for their own bloodlust and stupidity. You can say "Oh only 50% of the causualties are from US bombs, the rest were those pesky insurgements" Err, the US created those insurgents the second it started launching smart bombs.

                                        Your perspective is like walking up to a house of cards, pulling out one card, and then watching it fall and saying "I am only responsible for this single card here."

                                        [–]MerlinsBeard 7 points8 points ago

                                        If you think Iraq was actually stable before the US went in, you're really naive.

                                        [–]lustre12 2 points3 points ago

                                        I didn't know we were pinning civilian deaths of sectarian violence on the US now.

                                        Your perspective is like walking up to a house of cards, pulling out one card, and then watching it fall and saying "I am only responsible for this single card here."

                                        Oversimplification much?

                                        [–]A_Polite_Noise -1 points0 points ago

                                        ::Sunni and Shiite run through flowery meadow, holding hands and skipping happily:: "Hey, you guys! Stop that! We're invading! We're America and we invented war and corruption and the notion of wealth/power being desirable and abused! You two hate each other now! FIGHT!" And so the era of peace and prosperity that had reigned for all of human existence finally came to a close...

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                                            [–]Kafkhan 3 points4 points ago

                                            The military/government hasn't kept track, but conservative, independent investigations puts the civilian death toll well over 100,000

                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

                                            Iraqi officials claim Iraq now has over 5,000,000 new orphans since the invasion began in 2003

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                                                [–]FenrirIII 3 points4 points ago

                                                I know what it was. I own the Desert Storm trading cards.

                                                [–]Honestly_WTF 1 point2 points ago

                                                Saleh was nearly killed in 2003 when he picked up a small explosive while walking home from school in his hometown of Bada'a in southern Iraq. The device went off.

                                                Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/UPDATE-OPERATION-LION-HEART-Three-years-later-2468271.php#ixzz24rVsM0L8

                                                [–]DankBeard 2 points3 points ago

                                                You say this as if we stopped this method of warfare. We're drone bombing 4 different countries on a regular basis, with civilian casualties on a regular basis.

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                                                [–]Sanity_prevails 17 points18 points ago

                                                I dunno. We have all sorts of people here in America. Just sayin'

                                                [–]ReFreshing 4 points5 points ago

                                                Exactly. "You and i". What is this referring to?

                                                [–]donpapillon 4 points5 points ago

                                                Killing people that look like you and I.

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                                                    [–]Dunkachino 18 points19 points ago

                                                    What happened to the anti-war protests after Obama was elected? Why are Iraq and Afghanistan not issues in this election?

                                                    Is it because both candidates will perpetuate the exact same policies? Or is it because the anti-war protesters have traditionally been Democrats and are afraid that criticizing "their" candidate will cause them to lose the election?

                                                    [–]WHM-6R 8 points9 points ago

                                                    Iraq is not an issue because the last US combat troops withdrew from Iraq in 2011, so the Iraq War is pretty much over. Afghanistan is not an issue because both candidates would continue the gradual lowering of troop levels there. The two candidates differ much more significantly on economic and social issues. The continued poor state of the economy also has a far greater impact on American citizens than anything that happens in Afghanistan. Therefore for this election, economic issues are correctly at the forefront of the debate with some social issues thrown in as well.

                                                    [–]RegisteringIsHard 2 points3 points ago

                                                    Another issue is the US military involvement in Afghanistan is slated to end sometime in 2014 (for many countries involved, before 2014), around a year and a half from now. Even if the US government decided to end the war today, from what I've read it would still take something like 9 to 12 months to withdraw all the equipment and personnel. 9 to 12 months on the assumption the issue would not be debated (in an election year), contracts would not have to be rewritten, and government funding could be easily reallocated.

                                                    [–]Roderick111 1 point2 points ago

                                                    As a Democrat, you're right -- Obama's perpetuation of the Afghan War disgusts me. But Romney is worse. And so was Bush.

                                                    [–]catjuggler -1 points0 points ago

                                                    Probably because protesting the same thing for years with no progress seems like a waste of time. I used to go to anti-war protests then. I don't any more because they do nothing.

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                                                      [–]tweezyb 67 points68 points ago

                                                      Enjoy your democracy kid.

                                                      [–]Inget 36 points37 points ago

                                                      Here you go, have some freedom!

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                                                      [–]Thargz 17 points18 points ago

                                                      Minus a limb and fingers, yep he's really much better off.

                                                      [–]POEtoxx 7 points8 points ago

                                                      I've actually met them, They spoil the shit out of that kid. But Saleh is so sweet he would always give me a hug when they came to my Game Crazy. My store manager would go above and beyond for that kid, Always trying to find video games that he could play with his stump and two fingers. =)

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                                                          [–]Abe_Vigoda 62 points63 points ago

                                                          Turn off google's safe search and type in Iraq victim and you'll see what the news has been hiding for years.

                                                          [–]walruskingmike 4 points5 points ago

                                                          Can you really call it "hiding" if it's that easy to find?

                                                          [–]oldaccount 3 points4 points ago

                                                          When you consider that most Americans are fed their information, anything that is not fed to them is essentially hidden even if it is easily found by anyone looking.

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                                                            [–]Sommerfaq 13 points14 points ago

                                                            If you can see this stuff in google search, then no one is hiding it. Every single war has its atrocities, there is no such a thing as a clean war, doesn't matter which country wages war, horrible things will always happen. However, the U.S. is known to be less prone to brutality than some other countries.

                                                            Edit: I guess this fact might change some people's views on my comment; I am an immigrant.

                                                            [–]meh100 4 points5 points ago

                                                            then no one is hiding it

                                                            You've got a simplistic conception of what that means.

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                                                              [–]ninjaneer76 0 points1 point ago

                                                              Can't do it sally.

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                                                                [–]pantsoffire 16 points17 points ago

                                                                I hate this.

                                                                [–]wordsborrowed 12 points13 points ago

                                                                Read the story before you bark, ladies and gentlemen.

                                                                [–]Cthulhu_Bloop 9 points10 points ago

                                                                Nope, this is reddit. USA is all a bunch of soulless warmongering monsters who are deliberately killing civilians and it is all cheered on by every single American ever. Only the good, morally superior Europeans truly understand how barbaric and bloodthirsty we Americans are.

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                                                                  [–]SupSupportSona 28 points29 points ago

                                                                  The sins of a few payed for by the many.

                                                                  [–]krum_bum 2 points3 points ago

                                                                  I think it's also important to point out many of the innocent civilian casualties/injuries are perpetrated by insurgents. Not to say that it's justified when the American military is responsible for innocent casualties, but when the Taliban detonates an ied they don't exactly give a shit if any innocent people are in the vicinity of the explosion and then they go on to justify it by saying they died as martyrs and will supposedly go to paradise.

                                                                  [–]Velvetrose1 0 points1 point ago

                                                                  This is the only picture I've ever seen that made me cry within seconds of seeing it.

                                                                  [–]ZeroGSpaceCow 10 points11 points ago

                                                                  I used to draw planes dropping bombs when I was a kid too... Didn't everybody?

                                                                  [–]Drmed92 5 points6 points ago

                                                                  I'm Iraqi and i've seen a lot of destruction during the wartime, war is Horrible. Make peace not war, In war everybody loses.

                                                                  [–]leophir 28 points29 points ago

                                                                  Here you go, the face of the war in middle east. Sure that kid will love America and democracy afterward...

                                                                  [–]Spacehusky 53 points54 points ago

                                                                  The vast majority of civilian casualties in Iraq were caused by insurgents.

                                                                  [–]smashybashy 6 points7 points ago

                                                                  Not to mention the 200k Kurds killed by Saddam before the war.

                                                                  [–]throwaway_nknkn 7 points8 points ago

                                                                  Source?

                                                                  [–]Zazzerpan 42 points43 points ago

                                                                  Here.

                                                                  Apparently 13% of all civilian death can be said to be caused by direct coalition action. Gunfire seems to be the most prevalent cause of civilian death with explosives being the second, and air strikes being the least.

                                                                  [–]Jables237 18 points19 points ago

                                                                  Everyone has their pitchforks taped to their hands on this one. Not many people are actually going to stop and look at the numbers unfortunately.

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                                                                    [–]Spacehusky 24 points25 points ago

                                                                    http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

                                                                    If you set the red bar to show deaths caused by "any perpetrator" and the grey to "U.S. led coalition," you can clearly see that aside from 2003, when many civilians were killed during the invasion by collateral damage from air strikes, U.S. and allied forces were responsible for only a small fraction of overall civilian deaths.

                                                                    [–]Angeldust01 8 points9 points ago

                                                                    That said, the term "enemy combantant" is often used as a synonym to "military aged male" after he's dead.

                                                                    [–]Spacehusky 15 points16 points ago

                                                                    No doubt true. But, considering that the number of insurgents killed in Iraq is an order of magnitude lower than the number of civilians killed, my point still stands.

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                                                                      [–]Sweedo 1 point2 points ago

                                                                      The fact that you need a source for this common information is ridiculous.

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                                                                          [–]LordJumanji 2 points3 points ago

                                                                          well: http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/UPDATE-OPERATION-LION-HEART-Three-years-later-2468271.php#page-2

                                                                          so yeah, pretty sure this kid will at least have respect for america and appreciate democracy.

                                                                          I love when people just talk out of their ass. for many in afghanistan, the war there has caused plenty of strife. but also, considering they were in the stranglehold of a disgusting organization that simply put to death young girls if they dared go to school ... the US coming in and removing them isn't as quite a mess as you might imagine

                                                                          fucking sick & tired of these middle america reddit apologists. 0 insight into what war is, into what has happened/is happening in iraq + afghanistan ... but plenty of random perspectives to vomit

                                                                          [–]JoeYounger 20 points21 points ago

                                                                          I bet he will... Seeing as how it was a roadside bomb that almost killed him, and how it was the Air Force troops who saved his life. And that he and his family were given asylum and are all living in America now.

                                                                          [–]borahorzagobuchol 9 points10 points ago

                                                                          it was a roadside bomb that almost killed him

                                                                          By "roadside bomb" we mean, unexploded cluster bomb munitions originally dropped by the US air force that "saved his life".

                                                                          [–]Aranoxf5 16 points17 points ago

                                                                          in this comment you say it was dropped by US air force, in another comment you say you think it was. You are doing the same thing JoeYounger is -- making assumptions, to make your case. You are both equally as bad.

                                                                          [–]borahorzagobuchol 0 points1 point ago

                                                                          Sure, we don't know for certain that the munitions were of US origin. What we do know, given the type of bomb and the different forces in play, is that the US is the most likely source and that there is no other credible source for an unexploded cluster bomb in that region.

                                                                          If you categorize my response to this particular message, which was an attempt to correct an error that has been repeated on these comment threads many times, while simultaneously stated multiple times that no one knows the origin of the bomb for certain, as "just as bad" as repeatedly making a false statement with no evidence to support it, then you are welcome to that opinion.

                                                                          [–]pi_over_3 4 points5 points ago

                                                                          You have no idea how many piles of artillery rounds Saddam left lying around the country. That's what the vast majority of bombs made by anti-Iraqi insurgents, like the one that messed up this kid, are made from.

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                                                                                [–]SupermanV2 23 points24 points ago

                                                                                Right in the feels. It's incredible that someone will still try to justify this.

                                                                                [–]RootsmanSam[S] 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                seems we still haven't learned after 1000 of years

                                                                                [–]nunother 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                The scenery decays

                                                                                Through vacant eyes

                                                                                Fading all I see

                                                                                To black and white

                                                                                No colors to describe

                                                                                No voice to reply

                                                                                My emotions slowly die

                                                                                No lows or highs, I'm flatlined The writing on the walls

                                                                                May be foreign to us all

                                                                                'Cause the casualties of war

                                                                                Haven't changed us much at all

                                                                                10 Years - Writing On The Walls

                                                                                [–]InterstellarPancake 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                This kid was a threat to our freedom okay!

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                                                                                  [–]economystic 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                  goodbye blue sky

                                                                                  [–]spankymuffin 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                  Well isn't that precious.

                                                                                  [–]Roflkopt3r 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                  The US war technology is so advanced that they're even able to spread the U.N.-banned cluster bombs around the civilians. Well, when some stupidly jump aside they couldn't prevent it.

                                                                                  ~Volker Pispers, sarcastic.

                                                                                  [–]QuiteUnoriginal 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                  This is a very hard picture to look at. The child is trying to cling to one thing that makes him happy/distracts him from the chaos outside, and seeing him do that with those injuries is heartbreaking.

                                                                                  [–]C8H10N4O2Rush 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                  That looks like an UAV

                                                                                  [–]lakk 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                  people act as if kids won't get mutilated and maimed if the United States was never involved in anything,

                                                                                  it doesn't take war to fuck people's lives up

                                                                                  [–]Roderick111 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                  SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!

                                                                                  [–]clgoh 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                  Goodbye Blue Sky

                                                                                  "Look mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky"

                                                                                  Did-did-did-did-you see the frightened ones?

                                                                                  Did-did-did-did-you hear the falling bombs?

                                                                                  Did-did-did-did-you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter

                                                                                  When the promise of a brave new world

                                                                                  Unfurled beneath a clear blue sky?

                                                                                  Did-did-did-did-you see the frightened ones?

                                                                                  Did-did-did-did-you hear the falling bombs?

                                                                                  The flames are all long gone, but the pain lingers on.

                                                                                  Goodbye, blue sky

                                                                                  Goodbye, blue sky.

                                                                                  Goodbye.

                                                                                  [–]theITguy 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                  But he looks so liberated.

                                                                                  [–]baconilluminati 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                  Let's keep voting Obama and Romney guys

                                                                                  [–]mrstickball 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                  I know I'm insensitive for asking this, but:

                                                                                  How did he actually get said damage? I tried finding the source of the picture, and there's absolutely no information.

                                                                                  [–]SeaweedWater 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                  He'll think twice about stealing our freedoms next time.

                                                                                  [–]CheetoX23 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                  I think it's funny how so many people talk shit on here. You know what? It doesn't make you a better person because you state what little you know and how you think it's wrong, especially on reddit. "Commented on how the war mongering country I'm in enlists murderers to kill women and children for oil, looks like justice was done.". Congratulations. Now how about shutting your mouths and going overseas to do some humanitarian work? Too real for you? Whoops, may as well stick to reddit then. War will never go away, so what good are you accomplishing here? Also, how about we not use this kid for karma. What ever happened to him (native bomb or from another country? Let's ask the desktop investigators!), let's just let it be. Unless you are going to take action against things you think are wrong, then stay home, in your safe bed and shut the fuck up.

                                                                                  [–]ODA157 14 points15 points ago

                                                                                  So many bleeding heart college kids with no life experiences trying to act like they're above the system... You'll all be cynical assholes in about 15 years when you realize how being so idealistic got you nowhere.

                                                                                  [–]shoeberto 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                  It's often naive and unproductive to be purely idealist, sure. But that shouldn't paralyze you from action that might make things better. I think people are fundamentally flawed, ignorant, selfish and stupid, but I still want a better world for my kids, and that's enough to keep me fighting.

                                                                                  Being a cynic does nothing but ensure our species' death march continue and only fires me up more to fight it. So fuck you.

                                                                                  [–]por3 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                  Nowhere near what ?

                                                                                  [–]RootsmanSam[S] 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                  propably right but the world can use some idealism right now

                                                                                  [–]sifsilver1 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                  Here's an upvote batman.

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                                                                                    [–]QWOPregionalchampion 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                    You're right, the wars were justified and acceptable, that child deserved to get maimed, and we shouldn't be critical of the system that produces violence on a massive scale. Being a mindless servant of the military, I wouldn't expect you to question much. I'm sure the reasons for war are far too complicated for any of us to comprehend.

                                                                                    [–]Schroedingers_gif 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                    Bravery beyond bounds.

                                                                                    [–]AFewSecondsAgoDouche 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                    Sorry for seeing other people as people, and not "enemies", "terrorists" or "anti-American" simply because of the color of their skin, the place they were born or the religion they subscribe to.

                                                                                    [–]pi_over_3 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                    I think it's the "deliberately trying to kill as many civilians as possible to undermine a democratically elected government" part that people have a problem with.

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                                                                                      [–]YuriTheAmishDr -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                      Yes, I am above the system. If what the system entails is lies, corruption and murder.

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                                                                                        [–]Vouk73 17 points18 points ago

                                                                                        90+ upvotes, nice.

                                                                                        American soldier leaving his kids because he goes to war: 1300+

                                                                                        Sounds fair.

                                                                                        [–]Drunken_Economist 52 points53 points ago

                                                                                        It was posted three hours ago, at 6am eastern. This will end up on the front page with +1,300 by noon.

                                                                                        Edit: 11:36am and it's front-paged at +1,292. I'll call that "close enough"

                                                                                        [–]SupermanV2 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                        You would know.

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                                                                                          [–]Piemonkey 12 points13 points ago

                                                                                          800+ upvotes just two hours later. Well on its way higher.

                                                                                          Do you do everything prematurely?

                                                                                          [–]RootsmanSam[S] 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                          you have certainly a point allthough i'm already happy to see that there are genuine emotional & conscious reactions coming up. And thàt was the reason i posted this pic, to remind everyone of the consequences of war and to stand still about it. Cause an image can say more then 1000 words

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                                                                                            [–]Amerikai 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                            Anyone know what actually happened to the kid? Because everyone is accusing the US of this.

                                                                                            [–]footprintx 15 points16 points ago

                                                                                            Unexploded Cluster Bomb. http://thegroundtruth.blogspot.com/2007/05/feingold-co-sponsors-cmcpa.html

                                                                                            In 2007, there was a push to ban the use of such munitions, and in 2008 an international agreement was reached to ban the use ... Which the US, Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia and China all refused to agree to. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/28/AR2008052802011.html?sid=ST2008052803176

                                                                                            [–]TesticlesInTiaras 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                            If I were a military superpower I wouldn't want to give up such a weapon

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                                                                                              [–]Ethoxyethaan 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                              The drawing doesn't even look like a plane, looks more like an earthworm taking a crap.

                                                                                              F-

                                                                                              http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/

                                                                                              [–]Rocket80 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                              And when this kids father/uncle/cousin is captured/killed by the US for joining in terrorist efforts against America - we will just continue to ask "why do they hate us so much?!"

                                                                                              Cuz fuck any country who did this to my kid, that's for sure.

                                                                                              [–]fixthecopier 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                              I don't understand why they don't love us. Isn't blowing the limbs off your children worth it if you may get a McDonald's or a Starbucks in your neighborhood? If someone can photoshop that picture to make the kid look white, and say the bombs are from a Muslim terror attack, that boy will become the poster child for the GOP. Be sure and put a Jesus shirt on him for maximum effect.

                                                                                              [–]whiskeytango 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                              Most of the Iraqis I came into contact with(and I was there a long time) loved us a fuck of a lot more than they loved the insurgents or Saddam.

                                                                                              The problem we mainly ran across was that the insurgents would say "do what we say or we will kill you and your entire village" and they would comply because they know that the response from the US will be less than the response from the insurgents.

                                                                                              Most of the people just want to survive. The ones in the cities know that their best change is to side the US, and the ones in the villages are usually forced to side with the insurgents, even if they would rather side with the US.

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                                                                                                [–]FURYOFCAPSLOCK 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                This makes me feel partially responsible. My taxes helped pay for this travesty. This is disgusting.

                                                                                                [–]el_polar_bear 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                I can draw way better than him.

                                                                                                [–]kharmakazy 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                Man, that kid sucks at art.

                                                                                                [–]charles_d_krauss 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                But oh yes, it is as the religious claim, a loving god exists and cares equally for every single living thing.

                                                                                                Wake up, sheep.

                                                                                                [–]GaugeFOREVER 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                Ok I'll be the asshole and make a joke.

                                                                                                Don't worry, life will get better when he starts forcing 12 year old girls to have sex with him.

                                                                                                [–]juloxx 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                Nice going America. I am sure he is enjoying his "freedom"

                                                                                                [–]Golden-Spur 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                Our tax dollars at work. Land of the free, home of the brave.

                                                                                                [–]IwillReadThings 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                She didn't like droping democracy from planes?

                                                                                                [–]Italian_Barrel_Roll 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                His proportions and scale are terrible!

                                                                                                [–]buffalo_pete 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                Ron Paul. For God's sake, people. Do something about it.

                                                                                                [–]clemsonpk 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                Wow, if this isn't the most leftist propaganda Reddit has produced in the last 25-30 minutes....

                                                                                                [–]Jackdaws7 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                M'erika! Guns! McDonalds! Fat ignorant slobs coughing up phlegm onto their lazyboys as they watch american idol and choke half to death on that slim jim made from processed pig hooves! Fuck ya! I love conservatives! God bless!

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                                                                                                  [–]TyphoonCarsoon 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I don't know what I expected.

                                                                                                  [–]Mild_Sauce 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  Undoubtedly nobody wants to see a child hurt but what I can see from the picture I can't tell you if it was war related. Probably was but I can't say for sure. That's all I'm saying.

                                                                                                  [–]Xanathos7 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  What could possibly be a good reason to do this?

                                                                                                  [–]mikkelchap 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  There is a Vice Magazine video where they go to Afghanistan and break into 'potential' terrorists' houses and on the walls there are pictures of helicopters bombing their houses. They have family members in the drawings and are labeled as martyrs. I can't find the video right now but if that's the attitude, it's less than hopeless.

                                                                                                  [–]FlowerChild1994 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I think my heart just broke.

                                                                                                  [–]hiphopandrape 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  I can't believe I've never thought about this until now, but there are kids who are younger than the Iraq war. This is all they know :(

                                                                                                  [–]coylter 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  AMERICA!!!!!

                                                                                                  [–]Hezzerzzezz 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  ah the black and white photo

                                                                                                  devoid of colorful emotion, emphasizing reality

                                                                                                  ...i think...

                                                                                                  [–]deltefknieschlaeger 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  relevant

                                                                                                  [–]barrelfever -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                  Tragic, but I love the perseverance that kid is showing. We should give him a hand.

                                                                                                  [–]nunother -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                  The scenery decays

                                                                                                  Through vacant eyes

                                                                                                  Fading all I see

                                                                                                  To black and white

                                                                                                  No colors to describe

                                                                                                  No voice to reply

                                                                                                  My emotions slowly die

                                                                                                  No lows or highs, I'm flatlined

                                                                                                  The writing on the walls

                                                                                                  May be foreign to us all

                                                                                                  'Cause the casualties of war

                                                                                                  Haven't changed us much at all

                                                                                                  10 Years - Writing On The Walls

                                                                                                  [–]Disconsolate 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  This is why I'm so against war. Fuck it.

                                                                                                  [–]zach84 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  Well. That is pretty fucked up.

                                                                                                  [–]XAMOTA 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I'm glad the title told me what the picture was of, otherwise, I'd have been... wait for it.. Aww damn, I can't do it.

                                                                                                  [–]BroomIsWorking 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I've seen a lot of gory pics in my day, and while many sadden or outrage me (or both), very few actually make me feel ill.

                                                                                                  My stomach is flipping from that one.

                                                                                                  ...

                                                                                                  Dear Mr. ex-President George W. Bush,

                                                                                                  I am a kid in Iraq. I am sending you this picture of one of your airplanes that I drewed.

                                                                                                  Also I am sending you a picture of me drawing it.

                                                                                                  --Achmed

                                                                                                  [–]Sheldy13 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  When the US attacked Iraq the first time, I wondered about all the Fatherless children and thought to myself: "Well, we've really kicked the ant pile now. It's only a matter of time before we have a major terrorist attack on US soil. The payback will be hell. Then 9/11 happened (Not to imply that an Iraqi citizen had anything to do with 9/11, but I'm sure it helped inspire the brutality of the attack).

                                                                                                  After what we did the 2nd time we attacked Iraq, and also Afghanistan, etc... I shudder to think what the US is in for next.

                                                                                                  [–]halbright12412 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I wonder when and if he was ever told his older brother died. I hope they all have a happy life. It's things like this that show us what a beautiful place America is to someone from a different country.

                                                                                                  [–]why_ask_why 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  An airplane with two big tails, I wonder what kind of plane is that?

                                                                                                  [–]gotenks1114 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I believe he's drawing a predator drone.

                                                                                                  [–]naranjaspencer 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  Why is this bad? I drew airplanes and bombs all the time when I was a kid.

                                                                                                  [–]WitherSlick 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I always like to see pictures like this, because they make me realize that my life really isn't that bad.

                                                                                                  [–]hanncamp 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  This picture is so heartbreaking....

                                                                                                  [–]Insidiator -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                  This is a nice change from all the pro war posts here.

                                                                                                  [–]fiercepenguin 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  Every once in a while on Reddit, I'll click something that makes me stop for a second and think. It's a weird feeling clicking from cute cat, to stupid political quote, to overly attached girlfriend, and then something like this. The internet is a strange place.

                                                                                                  [–]420Romeo 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  Hold your head up high America. Be proud of your country.

                                                                                                  [–]The_Alex_ 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  Easily one of the most powerful pictures of the century.

                                                                                                  [–]Tier4 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  This is why I am against having families live on military bases.

                                                                                                  [–]AlmaWade 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  They're not dropping bombs, they're dropping freedom.

                                                                                                  [–]fascfoo 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  I have a son now; the thought of something like that happening to my child (it's infuriating enough seeing it happen to ANY child), sends me into never-ending rage spiral.

                                                                                                  [–]jerfcm 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                  Someone should get maddox to grade his drawing.

                                                                                                  [–]KingofSomnia -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                  in 20 to 30 years, there will be a lot of people who will try and destroy USA in one way or another. They'll hate everything about USA and do everything to hurt USA and Americans. Politicians will say "they hate us for our Freedom, they hate us for our exceptionalism" and this'll be a good enough of a reason the bomb their countries. But in reality these people hate everything about USA and do everything to hurt USA and Americans because USA carpet bombed their villages, killed their parents, siblings, friends, teachers, relatives and heroes. Some of those kids will grow up to be writers, some freedom fighters and they'll all fight against USA in their own way.

                                                                                                  USA killed around 1 million people in Iraq alone, mostly civilian women and kids and we wonder why people around the world hate us. Every great empire ends, and history will judge us.

                                                                                                  [–]Lucky_Bastard63 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                  Can you source the one million? Because this states it was a lot of Iraqi on Iraqi violence... http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

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