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This is why I am not a fan of the twelve steps. Does this bother anyone else? (2.bp.blogspot.com)
submitted 14 days ago by EggsAndBaccon
[–]nroberts666 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago
Because they're black font on dark grey background?
[–]Fleshgrinder 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago
I walked out of an "Alanon" meeting when God came up. I had no notion that AA was a Christian based program until that point.
Alanon is for families of alcoholics.
[–]I_have_boxes 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago
As Penn Jillette said on Bullshit!, it's government mandated religion.
[–]picado 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago
How about, it's completely ineffective, probably because it's based on religion, and it's state funded on a massive scale, billions of public money.
And because it's religious they refuse to see it doesn't work and that actually is hurting people because it's holding up investing into science that would actually have a chance of curing addition.
Prohibition, taking advantage of people in distress, laws about personal behavior, religion, money, wishful thinking, refusing to objectively evaluate, there's so much of the usual nexus here.
[–]foodsleepsexrevenge 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago
Agreed, a friend of mine did this for awhile and had to stop. The "being powerless" thing made him feel like a monster.
[–]ragingnerd 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago
and this is why i can't go to AA
[–]Atheizm 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago
Narcotics Anonymous meetings I went to ignored most of the God steps or had there own versions of higher power. Well, the ones I went to did. There were even alcoholics in NA who couldn't stand the holier than thou AA members.
[–]Jersey2Bronx 0 points1 point2 points 13 days ago
In principle, I believe in the concept of recognizing a "higher power" but I believe that higher power has to be defined individually. This is the problem I have with God being invoked as a standard (& it's my basic issue with religion in general).
For me, the "higher power" is the universe, & I take comfort in recognizing that I am but a small piece of something larger. I am but a speck, one of billions on a pale blue dot, a speck itself when compared to the vastness of space and the infinity of time. My problems are insignificant and temporary when compared to all of time & space, & that knowledge is what gives me the perspective to live a happy life full of forgiveness, meaning, & acceptance that no problem I may face is greater than the sum of existence.
[–]cypherpunks 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Yes, a lot of people. There are explicltly secular support groups for exactly that reason.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
[–]nroberts666 1 point2 points3 points ago
[–]Fleshgrinder 1 point2 points3 points ago
[–]I_have_boxes 1 point2 points3 points ago
[–]picado 0 points1 point2 points ago
[–]foodsleepsexrevenge 0 points1 point2 points ago
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[–]Jersey2Bronx 0 points1 point2 points ago
[–]cypherpunks 0 points1 point2 points ago