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[–]hammy20455 32 points33 points34 points 10 days ago
I had to read that a couple times...I feel retarded now
[–]jessebett 12 points13 points14 points 10 days ago
I looked for solace in the comments, and I found it.
[–]camnui 2 points3 points4 points 10 days ago
Same here... was a little confusing.
[–]shadofx 6 points7 points8 points 10 days ago
I kept reading it.. looking for the difference
[–]dhicks3 5 points6 points7 points 9 days ago
Don't feel bad! You noticed something that didn't click, so you investigated it. That's more than you can say about them.
[–]smytro 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
Me too, I was just about to say that...
[–]kylusD 21 points22 points23 points 10 days ago
I should think that the primary difference is that one of these is involuntary.
[–]MrMastodon 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
One can be rejected with a little work.
[–]imnotgood86 5 points6 points7 points 10 days ago
but they are both the same thi.....wait a second
[–]numballover 3 points4 points5 points 9 days ago
For some reason the fact that they wrote outside the margin really bothers me.
[–]nxtm4n 2 points3 points4 points 10 days ago
The difference is that you can't convert to insanity.
Oh wait, you can worship Cthulhu. Nevermind.
[–]fluffman 8 points9 points10 points 10 days ago
I prefer to think of faith as "Group Insanity".
[–]Sauroctonos 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
How about "Collective Ignorance"?
[–]KatieMyLady 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
"Shared denial." It sounds awesomely clumsy when said aloud.
That it does. And let's refer to prayer as "cooperative indolence"
[–]analogkid1 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago
Mass hysteria.
[–]vstandsforvictory 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
Isn't it more like: Faith = ability to hold firmly..., Insanity = act of holding firmly...
[–]IdentityZer0 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
Are you implying that theists don't hold firmly to their beliefs? Gays are bad because God says so. A cracker is the body of their deity. You won't find a Christian who doesn't think Christ rose from the dead. I think that qualifies as holding firmly to ones belief.
[–]vstandsforvictory 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
Okay then, I was wrong. In my defense I didn't say it as a statement, rather than a question.
[–]IcePhyre 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
huh, when I read it i picked it up as Faith : Choosing to hold firmly... Insanity : holding firmly ... without a choice
[–]Scourge108 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
I see what you did there.
[–]jehosephass 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
I think this goes a little bit too far. I would say that faith is holding to a belief that is unsupported by the evidence, and insanity is ... as described above. Of course, this still defines biblical literalists as insane. But it allows room for not calling 'insane' those who are merely hopeful for some form of supernatural comfort.
[–]firebolt22 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Thank you. ->*upvote
[–]camnui 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
Your discovery has been noted filed and stamped with approval.
[–]bahrenfuss 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
Nice new wallpaper. Thank you.
[–]juggaloholocaust -1 points0 points1 point 9 days ago
Insanity is writing on a wall
[–]Xilver101 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
In Sharpie, too. The bastard.
[–]Anaract 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
did you just write this on your wall? with a marker?
[–]Kilkun 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago
Insanity is doing the same fucking thing, over and over again, expecting shit to change.
[–]Blindocide 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
no, it isnt. that's what einstein said but he worked with numbers and not with words.
[–]Kilkun 0 points1 point2 points 8 days ago
Insanity is the state of being mentally ill. This can include Psychosis.
[–]Blindocide 0 points1 point2 points 8 days ago
.... the fuck does this have anything to do with anything?
[–]tonight__you 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago
More graffiti needs MLA citation.
[–]burtonmkz 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
It's called magical thinking and is no less native to the human brain/CNS than optical illusions; it's not insanity, it's normality. We have to learn these are cognitive illusions as our brains develop, just as we cross developmental milestones like having a secondary theory of mind or a sense of empathy for others. Some people succumb to a common cognitive illusion and wear lucky underwear on a date.
[–]Atheizm 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
I commend the author of that note on his or her fabulous and calligraphic handwriting skills.
[–]ExSeaD 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
The difference is religion tried to do something good only to fail at the man's greed.
[–]ydneah 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Had to read that twice
[–]ubuntugkb -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 days ago
soooo...... technically speaking, you're calling everybody on Earth insane, because every human being has some kind of faith. Christians, for example, have faith in Jesus. Atheists, on the other hand, have FAITH that the universe came into existence randomly. (not trying to bash anyone)
[–]daddylongstroke 7 points8 points9 points 9 days ago
Nope. Atheists make no claim as to how the universe began.
[–]elementop 3 points4 points5 points 9 days ago
The Universe could have been pooped out of the anus of a cosmic kangaroo for all I know.
EDIT: Therefore, Jesus is Law! Amen.
[–]imaginary_deities 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago
You also cannot disprove such an assertion. Ergo, it holds the same validity as aliens creating this universe, or insert any number of unsubstantiated claims that cannot be disproved. I laugh when a theist tells me "you cannot disprove the existence of god." I can't disprove the existence of any of the thousands of gods - it doesn't mean they exist.
[–]communistraptor 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Well, Scientists belive that the universe was made in the big bang, but we still say it is a theory, so you are kind of right. But even atheists still dont belive in the big bang, because of some good loop holes
[–]ubuntugkb -1 points0 points1 point 9 days ago
Let me rephrase that so it's true. "SOME atheists make no claim as to how the universe began."
[–]daddylongstroke 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago
Atheists can't make any claims about science or much of anything, as atheists, except that there is no evidence of a god or gods. Atheists aren't scientists. Scientists make some claims about the universe.
Saying an atheist is making a claim about how the universe began is like saying a bearded man is making a claim about how the universe began. Beards, while awesome, are completely unrelated to the origins of the universe. Having a beard, and being an atheist, do not factor into this persons claim about the origins of the universe.
[–]darkangelx 2 points3 points4 points 9 days ago
Atheists, on the other hand, have FAITH that the universe came into existence randomly.
Except we have evidence that the universe came into existence, and the how that happened has never been claimed to be random, but unknown.
Faith is believing in something without evidence.
[–]analogkid1 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Yep. Atheists are ok with "unknown" as far as the origin of the universe.
Science strives to figure it out through scientific method and peer review of findings and consensus between highly educated people. Christians are happy with the sky-fairy explanation, penned 3,000 years ago by primitive people.
[–]darkangelx 0 points1 point2 points 9 days ago
Even science is okay with unknown, as long as the pursuit of knowledge continues.
Protip - it is unknown to date. Unless you are religious and make stuff up.
Even abiogenesis isnt proven, so we continue to seek answers.
Religion however stops the pursuit of knowledge for fables are good enough for them.
[–]ubuntugkb -1 points0 points1 point 8 days ago
If you can't replicate it, and if you didn't see it with your own eyes, you have faith. And also, in this situation, you have faith in humanity really, because you have to believe that we can explain the origin of the universe with our own technology, and you have to have faith that it is 100% accurate.
[–]darkangelx 0 points1 point2 points 8 days ago
If you can't replicate it,
You cant replicate you that doesnt mean that you have faith YOU were created.
This is called intellectual dishonesty. Science is actively working on reproducing everything it claims, thats what experimentation is about and how we 'prove' things.
I have no need for faith. I have understanding.
No I do not claim to have special knowledge of how the universe was created. We have evidence, based on extrapolation of data of a singularity at some point and the nature of that is still speculation.
This is not faith, this is what the evidence tells us. There is no evidence to date that a god exists, let alone any god created the nature of existence.
I have never claimed 100% certainly or accuracy in anything, because science knows our understanding can change. That is what makes it so powerful and religion so useless.
[–]Xilver101 -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 days ago
Two things:
First, the above quote assumes that all faith is misplaced. It's not. Christians have faith in higher power and atheists have faith in a lack thereof, so for lack of an alternative, one of our faiths has to be correct. So no, not everyone who has faith is insane. Don't get worked up in misinformation.
Second, do not post here if you're afraid your comments might be seen as "bashing". It's obvious you don't respect our skepticism on the origin of the universe, and you don't even try to hide that by suggesting that our theories are as wild in speculation as "randomly" appearing. If you plan on staying here, you can shout out your Christian beliefs loud and proud (for whatever respect that'll garnish you around here), or have some decency. But stop being coy.
[–]darkangelx 4 points5 points6 points 9 days ago
atheists have faith in a lack thereof,
False, I do not have faith there is no god, I simply require evidence for anything that asserts it exists.
I do not have faith that unicorns do not exist, I simply acknowledge the lack of evidence to the claim they do and reject the assertion based on that. Faith is not required.
Please do not give the impression that a lack of belief in gods = faith that none exist, as it is simply not true.
[–]everythingred -1 points0 points1 point 9 days ago
wow and you call yourself an athiest? it seems like you're having an identity crisis. faith in a lack thereof?
[–]ubuntugkb 0 points1 point2 points 8 days ago
I agree with what you said in the first paragraph. Also, I apologize, I did say randomly, but in actuality what it meant is that you have faith that at the planck length level, after trillions of years, the probability of matter coming out of thin air happened. Then, eventually organic evolution and all that other stuff. (I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I didn't mean to be coy, or passive aggressive. I was honestly just trying to respond to the picture, but I am a Christian so I guess that showed a little bit.
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