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[–]QualityEnforcer 165 points166 points ago

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[–]dookadoo 50 points51 points ago

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[–]jacobo 6 points7 points ago

I am fan of Albert Speer's work.

[–]fernguts 7 points8 points ago

I found it to be rather soulless pastiche of classical and modernism, but I'm no architect. I just know what I like.

[–]the-knife 2 points3 points ago

Gigantomania. Speer wasn't very political, but he was megalomanical in an architectural sense.

[–]shadeobrady 3 points4 points ago

Thanks for that!

[–]ihateredditor 41 points42 points ago

does anyone know how effective it was in combat?

[–]abaybay99 73 points74 points ago

From what I've read it was used on the Russian front for a few days. Worked well as the Germans didn't have to risk sending fighters or bombers to take out targets. But it was huge and heavy to transport as it used a special rail system. It's high maintenance costs eventually curtailed its use.

[–]Xanny 90 points91 points ago

It was like the Death Star of tanks.

[–]Fdurke 43 points44 points ago

Germans were fond of those type of things, they ridiculously huge weapons in plans. Like giant tanks, giant rocket plane (that would have dwarfed the flying fortress), they just didn't have the ressources.

[–]Xanny 26 points27 points ago

And V-2 rockets and almost nuclear weapons! They did think big.

[–]BlueInq 19 points20 points ago

By the end of the war the Germans had prototypes planned for a rocket double the size of a V2 that could strike America.

[–]Bernie_Roscoe 4 points5 points ago

Sure, but they couldn't even reliably hit London with a V2.

[–]Harachel 14 points15 points ago

America is a lot bigger than London. Sure, it might have landed in a cornfield in West Virginia, but I guess in theory it would send the message to Americans that even they weren't immune to the war's destruction.

[–]BlueInq 1 point2 points ago

Yes, they were rather unreliable. Around 10% failed to even launch properly IIRC. Interestingly, part of the reason for so many missing London was that false information was leaked to the Germans that the missiles were over-shooting by 10-20 miles. This made the Germans re-calibrate their missiles to hit Kent, thinking they would now be accurate.

The accuracy of V2's increased greatly in only a few months, especially when they became fitted with a 'guiding beam' later on. I think that by the end V2's were accurate to within a dozen yards of their target. I would imagine that if the Germans could have developed the A9/10 rocket they would have been fairly accurate, assuming they got into the air okay.

[–]limitz 5 points6 points ago

And V-2 rockets and almost nuclear weapons!

German's were never close to a nuclear weapon. They had an atomic research division (Uranverein), but they never made the key breakthroughs necessary, due to manpower restraints and brain drain. As if that wasn't bad enough, several of their key scientists were conscripted, and died on the Eastern front (Paul O. Müller is one example). Many more scientists that could have made an impact, were also conscripted into the army when the fighting on the East became more intense.

They also lacked the requisite unconditional government backing (condition 2), and the funding that would have entailed. As such, the Army relinquished control of the project to the "Reich Research Council", a significant step down in priority.

Lastly, the Germans never got a reactor critical until after WW2, while the Allies, under the direction of Fermi, achieved the same feat in 1942. The German's original reactor (Dopel's reactor, the Uran-Maschine) was destroyed by a chemical explosion in Liepzig, and the Berlin group (headed by Heisenberg) weren't able to replace it.

[–]Citizen_Snip 10 points11 points ago

They had way bigger "cannons" than this though. They even tried building "cannons" multiple times that would be able to shoot across the channel, but they were destoryed... multiple times.

[–]BlueInq 9 points10 points ago

Are you thinking of HDP? They were really clever. The thinking behind it was if rockets can be stabilised in flight by having fins, why can't shells? Unfortunately the drawback of this 'super gun' was that part of the barrel would burst every time it fired.

[–]mtmdog 3 points4 points ago

They had cross channel guns from almost the start of the war, but they weren't highly accurate and the British knocked them out in '44 with a combined ground attack and their own cross channel guns.

The V3 was destroyed before use though, that could shoot across channel into London I think.

[–]quesoafficionado 1 point2 points ago

There were multiple V3 sites. You're correct in saying that the French site, which was intended for cross-channel fire missions, was destroyed in a bombing raid, but another site in Germany was later used in the Battle of the Rhineland. As I recall, It was mostly firing into the region of Luxembourg.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

Gigantomania is an affliction of all dictatorships. When your power is based on how much people are afraid or respectful of your government, constructing giant machines that put people in awe is an ideal substitute for legitimate rule.

[–]Bestpaperplaneever 0 points1 point ago

Which giant rocket plane do you speak of?

[–]n1c0_ds 0 points1 point ago

Maybe he was referring to the Amerikabomber programme

[–]Bestpaperplaneever 1 point2 points ago

But I don't know of any giant rocket plane in that programme. I only know of a small rocket plane under consideration for that programme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbervogel), as well as two propeller driven bombers that were larger than the flying fortress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke_Wulf_Ta_400 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_390

[–]n1c0_ds 1 point2 points ago

Rocketry was actually a good investment, in my opinion, but there was a lot of effort diverted in fruitless pursuits such as the P-1000, the death camps and whatnot.

[–]Xane 1 point2 points ago

[–]n1c0_ds 0 points1 point ago

Holy theorical fuck indeed

[–]untaken-username 0 points1 point ago

Ditto the Russians, at least post-WW2. They have the world's largest cannon, bell, and nuclear bomb.

[–]quesoafficionado 1 point2 points ago

It was used by the Germans during the siege of Sevastopol.

[–]CptES 48 points49 points ago

Two were built, one (Dora) never saw actual combat as the Russians nearly overran the position while it was setting up at Stalingrad. The first unit, Schwerer Gustav was deployed against Sevastopol in Russia where it fired 48 rounds in six months and left Sevastopol in ruins. It was to be deployed against Leningrad but the Axis cancelled the attack in late 1942 and by 1943 it had been sent back to Germany and was rumoured to have been deployed for the last time to fight the Warsaw Uprising. The Germans destroyed the gun in 1945 to prevent its capture by American forces. Dora was scrapped before the end of the war.

Generally the weight (nearly 1,400 tons) and the travel restrictions (could only use certain railway tracks, required assembly on-site) hampered use of the guns. What's really interesting to note is there were plans on the drawing board (but later scrapped as being impractical) for a land-mobile version of the Gustav guns, the Landkruzer P.1500 Monster. For comparison it would have been about the size of the NASA crawler-transporters with the gun in the picture bolted on top.

[–]BlueInq 14 points15 points ago

You are right in saying that the guns were pretty ineffective but they were actually incredibly useful in a different way. The research carried out to improve the range of Dora and Big Bertha helped the German Rocket science technology. This is because it dawned on the operators that the best way of improving the performance would be with rocket attachments, and two stage rockets were designed to propel the charge after firing. The idea never materialised in practice but it was a pretty significant pointer to the lessons that the Germans were learning - lessons that centred on the use of rockets for longe-range bombardment.

So in a way it could be said that Big Bertha and Co was a symbolic pointer to the principle behind the Germans most daring and impressive weapon - the guided missile.

[–]CptES 5 points6 points ago

That is certainly true, my comments were based on their direct effectiveness in combat rather than the significant advances weapons like this made to the German rocket program (which might be one of the few good things the Nazi's gave us considering how it advanced the rocket age) of the late war. It still impresses me that the Germans were 20 years ahead of the rest of the world when it came to guided missile technology.

[–]BlueInq 5 points6 points ago

Yes it is crazy some of the things they got up to. I have a book on German Secret Weapons and the gist of it is that it is a good thing the war didn't last longer because then the Allies would have been in trouble.

[–]Wirenutt 0 points1 point ago

Yes, that's true, but if the war in Europe had lasted longer, then the Americans would have dropped Fat Man and Little Boy on Berlin and Munich instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[–]BlueInq 0 points1 point ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about that minor detail! Okay if the Germans had developed the technology earlier in the war the outcome could have been different. But you're right, I think a nuclear bomb or two hitting Germany would have put a dampener on things.

[–]jaynoj 6 points7 points ago

Totally impractical really and needed several months run up to deployment I would have thought.

[–]Thimble 8 points9 points ago

The Germans made use of psychological tactics during the war.

e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

As a military weapon, the Paris Gun was not a great success: the payload was minuscule, the barrel required frequent replacement and its accuracy was only good enough for city-sized targets. However, the German objective was to build a psychological weapon to attack the morale of the Parisians, not to destroy the city itself.

Can you imagine the sound of that cannon being fired at you during a siege?

[–]Citizen_Snip 6 points7 points ago

Yeah but this thing was a seige breaker. Could you imagine the sound and size of the shell coming down?

[–]jaynoj 4 points5 points ago

It was a siege breaker if they could get it to the siege and set the damned thing up in time. They took it to Stalingrad but were nearly overrun before they could pull the trigger on it and had to pull out. They blew Sevastopol off the map for a while, but out of three (potential) guns of that magnitude, that's all they ever did with them.

So many men were required for the running and setup of the gun in the field, the detachment had their own field kitchen.

As for being on the receiving end of one of those 80cm shells, you'd think the world was ending (which it probably was if you were at the wrong end of it).

[–]CptES 1 point2 points ago

Pretty much. They had to build extra railway tracks just to get it to Sevastopol. Admittedly the gun did what it was supposed to do, shatter heavy fortifications but in a hideously impractical way even by the standards of the time.

[–]gh0st32 1 point2 points ago

To add to the impracticality if memory serves it take 2 days once it arrives in the AO for it to become operational.

[–]gh0st32 2 points3 points ago

What I find odd is the German army introduced blitzkrieg tactics then went backward technically with this. How many Tigers or Mark IV's could have made instead of this. They already had the best artillery cannon of the war. Meh, meth not even once...

[–]CptES 8 points9 points ago

The Germans were well aware that the Blitzkrieg doctrine had very serious shortcomings, namely that in urban combat it fell to pieces because the mixed-arms of the Wehrmacht couldn't isolate and destroy the individual pockets of enemy resistance. The Gustav guns were something of an attempt to make up for that shortcoming by flattening cities and heavy fortifications that would otherwise cost too many casualties.

[–]gh0st32 2 points3 points ago

Good point, you can't take down fixed defenses with an 88.

[–]yuruku 0 points1 point ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Ger%C3%A4twas about the biggest I think I can remember on tracks.

[–]MattyClutch 0 points1 point ago

[–]Bezulba 8 points9 points ago

It's effective in bombarding a city that's been fortified. But they didn't have that many cities that were a problem like that. It was also a psychological weapon. Think what sound it'd make shooting shells the size of volkwagens over your head. I'd be shitting my pants and crying for mommy.

[–]Clovis69 6 points7 points ago

I believe the materials that went into it could have produced something like 20 U-Boats

[–]toomanynamesaretook 5 points6 points ago

One of its shells pierced (and destroyed) an underwater munitions bunker near Leningrad, found that rather interesting.

http://www.avalanchepress.com/dora.php?mode=print

Still, I doubt it recovered the material invested into producing, maintaining and deploying it.

[–]THE_CENTURION 0 points1 point ago

IIRC, it really wasn't made for combat. It's a huge railcar, so you can't move and aim it wherever you want quickly. It's for softening up cities before invading.

[–]BlueInq 2 points3 points ago

No, it was made for combat. The idea was for London to be the target, but the Germans could never get the range to be great enough for this to work so they had to settle on obliterating Sevastopol instead.

[–]mtmdog 0 points1 point ago

I remember reading that a similar gun was used in the siege of Sevastopol and basically reduced anything they targeted and the surrounding few miles into a pile of smouldering ruins.

[–]DirtPile 0 points1 point ago

I think it was pretty far away from combat.

[–]madplayshd 0 points1 point ago

It didnt really made any sense with the german doctrine. All success the germans had in the 2 WW was because of speed, mobility and the indirect approach. In the first WW, fighting was often direct confrontation but if history shows one thing, than that direct confrontation is a bad thing and you should always prefer the indirect course. Lidell Hart, the guy that german panzer general Guderian - who basically won france together with manstein - got a lot of his ideas from, makes this extremely clear in his analysis of almost 3000 years of warfare in his book "strategy". Hitler itself said that it doesnt make any sense to fight if you can win the fight psychologically, or by completly circumventing the enemy.

By putting resources in those superweapons, that were completely contrary to the german doctrine, instead of using the supply for actually usefull stuff like tanks or submarines Hitler made it actually easier for the allies.

[–]ByTheHammerOfThor 0 points1 point ago

I don't know about this gun in particular, but similar railguns in the West were not very effective. The account I read said that they'd fire one shot a day, and then get the hell out of there. Since it's in a semi-fixed position (can only be on railway tracks), it's vulnerable to counter-battery fire and retaliation from the air, which makes it hard to bracket targets or thoroughly work-over an area.

It had some psychological impact, though.

[–]nowaytoga 180 points181 points ago

It's crazy that the reason Hitler lost control was because he stared at this gun for 3 straight years in marvel. We owe this gun a lot.

[–]Machinax 125 points126 points ago

"Mein Fuhrer, we should get back to Berlin for -- mein Fuhrer?"

"It's so big..."

[–]SpartaWillBurn 10 points11 points ago

"Ya see, you see here, I used titanium metal, instead of regular metal to strengthen the core."

"mein Fuhrer, we really need to get goi-"

"Oh, let me go get the blueprints, I have a little surprise about the tracks dimensions"

[–]walsh1916 16 points17 points ago

Another one of those "what ifs" in history. What if he just moved on?

[–]hussard_de_la_mort 8 points9 points ago

"I JUST CAN'T QUIT YOU!"

sobs

[–]gvsteve 1 point2 points ago

Does that make you horny, baby?

[–]Kittens4Brunch 0 points1 point ago

Look, Mountain Dew, any one of us would've starred at that magnificent thing much longer than he did.

[–]tlease181 42 points43 points ago

So this gun was almost twice the caliber of the guns on an Iowa class battleship...fuck me.

[–]MatE2010 22 points23 points ago

I think its equally as impressive that a gun half the caliber of this was mounted on a boat ship.

[–]tlease181 3 points4 points ago

9 of them at that!

[–]Toshiro_Mifune 25 points26 points ago

Oh yes I remember this mission in the original Medal of Honor.

"Jimmy, we have a tough one for you..."

[–]stuart031 11 points12 points ago

All i could think of was the mission from commandos.

[–]ScreamingAloudInside 5 points6 points ago

I thought of Final Fantasy 7.

[–]Zoids 0 points1 point ago

Pokemon?

[–]MattyClutch 1 point2 points ago

[–]stuart031 1 point2 points ago

shit yes ,whoa flash back.

[–]elastic-craptastic 10 points11 points ago

Hitler's reaction?

"Me Gustav"

[–]ninja_at_law 10 points11 points ago

I wonder about 3 things: could it fire in more than one direction? did it recoil on a slide? and, did the brakes locked onto the track?

[–]abaybay99 15 points16 points ago

It could only fire the direction it was facing. Recoil was a slide. Brakes were not locked because of the massive recoil.

[–]ninja_at_law 9 points10 points ago

no recoil on slide. also, i assume those front clasp-looking devices are locks for the tracks. you're certainly correct on #1. upvote.

edit: it looks like they show a few different types of big-cal guns at the end of the vid. one was very low to the rails, and it appeared to use the railroad tracks as the recoil slides. pretty awesome. the locked it to a straight set of track, but appeared to have very little mass.

[–]abaybay99 2 points3 points ago

Ahh I see. I'm pretty sure I read that they didn't engage the brakes when firing, but I could be wrong. Thanks!

[–]ninja_at_law 1 point2 points ago

if you read it, you're probably right. however those front things look suspiciously like clasps. and i can't think of any other reason a gun car would need such heavy duty clamps.

[–]MattPDX04 0 points1 point ago

The barrel could only change elevation. To point in the direction of the target they moved the gun along curves in the rail line. I imagine they put some in every couple miles so they had options.

[–]Wilky323 9 points10 points ago

That's incredible.

[–]GODDAMNFOOL 13 points14 points ago

1941-1944

Damn, he stood there for three years looking at that thing? That man admires quality.

[–]Ionisation 5 points6 points ago

That thing is a fucking beast! Reminds me of the mako cannon haha. But the question is, was it effective, or basically just a show piece?

[–]sav86 3 points4 points ago

my thoughts exactly, I wonder if the artists used this cannon as a concept for FF7.

[–]uberyeti 3 points4 points ago

It was effective as all hell when it fired, but getting the monster into a firing position, setting it up, loading it and all that sort of stuff was too slow and difficult for it to be a practical weapon. For the price and hassle of one of these guns, imagine how many Flak 88s you could build.

So yeah, it was really a show piece and not a useful weapon.

[–]fscktheworld 0 points1 point ago

Did it have any explosive payload? What exactly do they aim for with big cannons? If no payload, so just massing lead hitting dirt causes enough damage to enemy lines that it's worth building this?

[–]uberyeti 3 points4 points ago

  1. Yes, very explosive.

  2. The whole city.

[–]abaybay99 1 point2 points ago

Wasn't used that often. Check its Wikipedia Page.

[–]Singspike 6 points7 points ago

Jesus, in this picture it sure looks a lot longer than 80cm.

[–]Die_antwoord 12 points13 points ago

80 centimeter caliber...not length.

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[–]uberyeti 7 points8 points ago

Yes, at Sevastopol. It fired 48 rounds and caused massive damage, but it was an unwieldy and hugely expensive piece of equipment. It was too large to transport or maintain, and this prevented it being a practical weapon.

A squadron of bombers could do the same damage as this gun with much greater speed and ease.

[–]Roflkopt3r 3 points4 points ago

r/historyporn today featuring two of the biggest dicks in history on one image.

[–]VolatileChemical 9 points10 points ago

CHRIST. How exactly did they lose the war?!

[–]CptES 23 points24 points ago

Because of projects just like this. They sapped valuable resources from more conventional and more realistic projects because Hitler loved the idea of huge caliber behemoths for the fear and power they bring to a war. Being a soldier from WW1 he saw high caliber artillery as the wonderweapon to break sieges and trenches but as WW2 showed, air power could do that job with a much higher rate of damage in a shorter time.

[–]BlueInq 4 points5 points ago

These guns may have sapped valuable resources but they did help the Germans' rocket research which was a very useful project. There were plans for Big Bertha and Dora to utilise some sort of two-stage rocket attachments to increase range and this research may have helped later on when the Germans actually created proper rockets.

[–]Thimble 1 point2 points ago

I wonder what the war would have been like if Hitler had delayed his attack on the USSR and the atomic bomb was not a success. Would it have lasted longer? What types of new weapons would have been developed and utilized?

[–]BlueInq 4 points5 points ago

If the Germans could have utilised their secret weapons fully I think the war could have ended differently. Remember that it wasn't the Blitz which began proposals for a full-scale evacuation of London, it was the arrival of the V2 rockets. But it is all what ifs so impossible to say.

The Germans were peerless in some fields, especially aerodynamics. To give you an idea of some of the insane prototypes they developed take a look at "Natter". It was a single-seated rocket-powered interceptor that launched vertically from a ramp and flown straight up to meet enemy aircraft. As soon as the enemy was sighted the pilot took over control and fired a battery of rockets into the oncoming bombers. More impressively the design was very 'lean', it only took 1000 man hours to build. Unfortunately the only manned test flight ended in disaster and death for the pilot though.

The Germans were not far away from developing rockets superior to V2s by the time the war ended as well. A rocket designated A9/10 was in the prototype stage when the war ended and it was designed to be able to strike targets as far away as America. It would have been twice as tall as a V2 and had a massive booster.

That is just 2 examples of what the Germans were up to, I could go on all day about the various projects and programmes the Nazis had up their sleeves but interestingly, it wasn't just rockets and jet technology that the Germans excelled at. By 1944 they had developed a very sophisticated Radar system - an Allied technology. This technology was discovered in Paris and there were even several Radar training schools in France which shows how the Germans had made advances in this field too.

[–]n1c0_ds 3 points4 points ago

At the same time, these projects sucked a lot of development time out of legitimate investments. While some germans were busy playing with unfeasible plans, soldiers were dying on the front.

Real innovations such as the StG-44 and manufacturing improvements helped the cause much more.

[–]BlueInq 2 points3 points ago

Yes, they were a big drain on resources. A single V2 rocket took 13,000 man-hours to construct and cost 75,000 marks!

[–]Zoids 0 points1 point ago

Fuck, they probably could have fired someone into space with that fuckin gun.

[–]kilo4fun 1 point2 points ago

See: Joint Strike Fighter

[–]Zpiritual -1 points0 points ago

See: F-22 Raptor

[–]tamper 0 points1 point ago

See: The mighty B-52 Big Ugly Fat Fucker

[–]hugith 8 points9 points ago

They spent most of it building this cannon.

[–]racetrack20 0 points1 point ago

Apparently there is such a thing as too many nice things

[–]jackoquack 14 points15 points ago

Question is...will it blend.

[–]HarryLillis 4 points5 points ago

Yes.

[–]dan_t_mann 7 points8 points ago

Choo choo motherfuckers!

[–]Erl_of_Sandwich 2 points3 points ago

You can deal 2000 direct with that.

[–]dangerzonepatrol101 2 points3 points ago

You'd think Hitler was compensating for something....

[–]throwaway232211 2 points3 points ago

Check out the Krupp K5 "Leopold" as well.. max range of 40 miles.

Also featured in this video from about 0:50 onwards.

[–]dstrichit 2 points3 points ago

I've gotta say, Hitler actually looked pretty bad ass in that uniform. What an interesting period of time. I wish/am glad that I could have seen/didn't have to be around then.

[–]Jeff_E_Popp -3 points-2 points ago

Hitler was compensating for something.

[–]knightofmars 0 points1 point ago

I'd love to see a video of it in action or pictures of it firing.

[–]s1wg4u 0 points1 point ago

What did this gun do?

[–]worldchrisis 0 points1 point ago

Fire the railgun!

[–]dazwah -1 points0 points ago

The whole gun is only 80 cm? This picture must use forced perspective. It looks huge.

[–]SirJiggart[S] 0 points1 point ago

80 centimeters is the diameter of the barrel.

[–]madmonty98 0 points1 point ago

I have only one question regarding the gun: Why? What is the purpose of a cannon that insanely large?

[–]yellowtag 0 points1 point ago

My god what a monster

[–]eman462 0 points1 point ago

That is a big gun

[–]BlowfishinThisUp 0 points1 point ago

Thanks to Breaking Bad, I know I can take one of these bad boys out with some thermite.

[–]mcmanufan1313 -1 points0 points ago

R/oldschoolcool

[–]dsgm1984 1 point2 points ago

I bet they are all smiling thinking about penis jokes

[–]induscreep 0 points1 point ago

Dat hugo boss designed leather overcoat...

[–]lokitheserious 0 points1 point ago

One argument is the resources that Germany spent on these kinds of projects actually sped up their destruction. They didn't have alot of manpower and resources and they spent at least some of it on these types of projects and didn't fully mobilize their workforce until after the war was underway. Not to mention the fact they killed a good bit of their workforce. So in the end its probably a good thing they built railway guns like this, it wasted their effort.

[–]zerodb 1 point2 points ago

"You could drop bombs on it every day for a month without ever disabling it. BUT... drop a commando... one man... with just a bag of this... and you could melt right through 4 inches of solid steel and destroy that gun forever."

[–]somerandomguy02 1 point2 points ago

Hah, that's my middle name. I am part railway gun.

[–]coreyisthename 0 points1 point ago

Wtf. I posted this two months ago and it didn't get shit.

[–]mapoftasmania -1 points0 points ago

...was a stupid invention because it wouldn't fit under bridges on existing tracks.

[–]nicudeemus 0 points1 point ago

80 effing cm!?

[–]andontcallmeshirley -1 points0 points ago

Did a gun this size make him feel better about his missing testicle?

[–]ChewedUp -1 points0 points ago

BREAKING BAD (Walter mentioned this gun once)

[–]FlyMalcolmX 0 points1 point ago

I just wacthed this episode. Funny coincidence.

[–]racetrack20 0 points1 point ago

What episode was that?

[–]FlyMalcolmX 0 points1 point ago

S1E7

[–]demonthenese 1 point2 points ago

if this were today, it would be a picture of Kim Jong Un looking at a buffet

[–]mgbgtv8 -2 points-1 points ago

This photo looks doctored to me. Not seeing Hitler's face makes me suspicious. The focus and proportions just seem off to me. Anybody agree?