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[–]Razer1103 21 points22 points ago

Honestly, it doesn't look like he's bashing CoD. He's stating how ironic it is.

[–]NuclearSpark 25 points26 points ago

As we get closer and closer to the release of Black Ops 2, more of these "lolCoD" posts will pop up.

Take your own advice you "give" CoD, redditors: be more original.

[–]kbillly 5 points6 points ago

As we get closer more people are going to rage at the fact other people are going to be buying and having fun with something they are determined to hate.

I see it as one of the saddest circlejerks on reddit because IT'S NOT WORKING. People are still going to buy shit they like and there is nothing /r/gaming can do to stop it.

[–]Pineappel 186 points187 points ago

hurr durr cod sucks http://i.imgur.com/KLWWY.gif

[–]b0w3n 55 points56 points ago

[–]fishyguy13 0 points1 point ago

What is this from I must watch it now.

[–]b0w3n 0 points1 point ago

Probably an old animated kirby cartoon from Japan?

[–]fishyguy13 2 points3 points ago

.... It's kirby I MUST FIND THE SOURCE!

[–]fishyguy13 2 points3 points ago

I'll be back in a few hrs. Edit: best damn movie ever.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points ago

Plenty of good games don't follow real world logic, this isn't about bashing COD. The OP obviously likes COD because he plays it and is familiar with the current play styles online.

[–]idgman94 25 points26 points ago

I havn't played cod since mw2 and knew this is how it was

[–]RageOverdose 1 point2 points ago

You say current.

But this shit started way back in CoD2. You couldn't hold breath in the original, so much less effective.

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[–]mikethebike96 4 points5 points ago

Minecraft isn't supposed to be realistic.

[–]JamesGCO -1 points0 points ago

It ain't even that bad...

[–]twinsofliberty 0 points1 point ago

It's A repost

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[–]DellTheEngie -1 points0 points ago

Go back to r/circlejerk.

[–]smittywjmj 34 points35 points ago

Just a little worse than BF3 logic: make maps miles long, rifles are only good to 50 feet.

[–]xtrasneakygastro 19 points20 points ago

not unless you spray them, single fire 400-500m shots easy, bipod even easier

[–]plsenjy 5 points6 points ago

One of my favorite first day moments of BF3 was taking pot shots from a sniper in a building on Kharg, running up to a pile of steel girders a couple hundred meters away, setting up bipod on my SCAR, and picking him off with a headshot.

[–]s0ulesque 6 points7 points ago

Are you sure you're not using burst fire or holding the fire button? One of the main reasons I play BF3 is because as a former soldier, I appreciate how I can switch to the single-fire option and hit a target 350+ meters away. EDIT: Probably trying to explain bullet drop/trajectory. Sure the game itself isn't as realistic as most make it out to be, but the bullet drop is the closest to real-life I've seen in a video game.

[–]I_Eat_Toothpaste 1 point2 points ago

Have you ever tried ARMA 2?

It's rather aged, but it's the most realistic game I've found.

[–]s0ulesque 1 point2 points ago

I've heard nothing but good things about it, and I'd like to try it. Unfortunately, and this is on me and it's my loss, the only thing preventing me from thinking I'd enjoy it is the 3rd person view. Will I be able to look down the sights when aiming?

[–]I_Eat_Toothpaste 1 point2 points ago

3rd person is optional, you will be able to aim down sights in both modes though.

[–]smittywjmj 0 points1 point ago

Believe me, as far as video games go, I generally avoid full-auto as much as I can, and I'm not particularly of burst fire (I usually play super-realistic shooters like Operation Flashpoint and ArmA, so if I can make my first shot hit, with the more powerful guns I usually prefer, I shouldn't need the other two unless I'm supressing something). And with the bullet drop of Battlefield, since I haven't played much (at least compared to other shooters) could you tell me: do you actually have to lead your targets, or are bullets still instant like in other shooters, they just arc downward, and also, if you're firing at a steep angle, does that affect the drop like it does in Operation Flashpoint or ArmA?

[–]kbillly 2 points3 points ago

Hey I hear if you pay extra money, you can get better rifles... Oh, we were talking about COD... wait.

[–]if-loop 2 points3 points ago

That's just not true. Single shot, prone, maybe even a bipod. There are several ways to hit and kill people who are very far away. I'm not even a Recon player.

"Laser weapons" and the lack of recoil are two of the main reasons why I dislike CoD.

BF3's weapons feel just so much more complex.

[–]smittywjmj 1 point2 points ago

Weapons aren't really that complex. Switch the safety off, acquire your target, finger on the trigger, control your breating and your stance, and squeeze the trigger until it goes BANG. The hardest part is getting the stance right, which is done automatically in video games, followed by controlling your breathing, again done automatically, and squeezing the trigger, which is impossible, as games do not register whatever button is assigned to the trigger (RT, R1, LMB, etc.) as being pressure-sensitive. Also, watch videos of someone firing a 5.56mm caliber gun. They don't recoil much, as the 5.56 is a wimpy "varmint" cartridge (That means that in the hunting world, it's used for rabbits, prairie dogs, coyotes, and small animals like that. Whitetail deer, which are roughly the same size as a human are normally hunted with larger, more accurate rounds, such as .308 Winchester, .30-'06, 8mm Mauser, .243 Winchester, 7mm-08, or any number of more practical rounds, but I'm getting off topic.) Call of Duty is actually rather accurate (on occasion) with their depiction of recoil, where BF3 has way too much horizontal recoil on some of their guns. Muzzles climb (as recoil is actually the force that goes into your shoulder, and muzzle climb is how the point of aim moves upwards with continuous fire) primarily upwards and to the right (up and left, if you're a lefty) because of the way the stock of a gun fits in the shoulder. AR-pattern rifles like the M16 have the action in line with the stock, which greatly reduces recoil, and similar stock layouts have been adapted by practically every modern infantry rifle.

Also, you know how a "flash hider" or "flash supressor" or something like that is an attachment in BF3? Since about the 1950s, most rifles have been outfitted with a flash hider (that's that funny thing with all the holes and slots in it on the end of the barrel) and more recently, many rifles (such as the SCAR rifles) are issued with flash hiders that also work as a muzzle brake (or is it muzzle break? I never figured that out.) And further reduce recoil so that a smaller round like the 5.56mm of the SCAR-L is very easy to control, and the larger 7.62mm round of the SCAR-H can be used effectively even on fully-automatic fire.

[–]if-loop 0 points1 point ago

Interesting, have an upvote. Still, CoD weapons feel simple and lame compared to other games. I don't like it.

[–]smittywjmj 0 points1 point ago

Thanks for the upvote. (I probably didn't deserve it, I've commented on too much today, so I don't remember exactly what I said.) I think part of the issue I have with semi-realistic games like Battlefield, is that I prefer either a game that is ultra-realistic and requires me to think, or a more casual, faster-paced game. (As an example, my favorites in each category is Operation Flashpoint: Red River and Halo, respectively.) So i suppose Battlefield falls into some kind of in-between that, for whatever reason, I can't tolerate as well.

[–]letsgetstoned 2 points3 points ago

i only snipe on bf3 and i kill a lot of people at like 200-400m, no idea where you get 50 feet from

[–]ggiioo 3 points4 points ago

he mean's combat rifles, but I understand your confusion

[–]letsgetstoned 1 point2 points ago

ohh wow my mistake, cant wait for him to message me back lol

[–]smittywjmj 1 point2 points ago

Okay, apparantly exaggerations are taken literally here... But I should point out that USMC basic training requires each future Marine to hit a man-size target at 500 yards with an M4 carbine. Sniper rifle range (guns like M40s, any of the Arctic Warfare series of rifles like the L96 and L118, and CheyTac M400s) is currently defined by most militaries as 600m+, marksman rifle range (despite what games will tell you, the M39 EMR is a marksman rifle, as is the SVD Dragunov) at 300-600m and rifle range (this is M4s and M16s, basically) is 0-300m. Honestly, if you shoot actual rifles, 200 yards is not difficult. In my experience, I can consistently shoot 2 or 3 MOA (that's minute-of-angle, look it up, it's how accuracy is measured) with a bolt-action .22 Long Rifle, standing, barrel-rest (that's not too dissimilar from your precious bipods) with open sights (which are different than iron sights, since open sights are a category of simpler iron sights that are less accurate). So hitting a target at 200-400 yards with a sniper or even a marksman rifle nothing special, and could probably be replicated in real life by someone with only minimal knowledge of guns.

TL;DR: The point is, the game forces you to mount scopes and bipods and go prone to hit targets that are not difficult to hit with a CQB-outfitted M4A1 in real life. (Before you start doubting my credibility, I am not in the military, nor have I ever been, or ever can be, since I've been type-1 diabetic since I was 13, but I am a gun nut and have shot various AR-15s and AR-pattern rifles and I also shoot competition on occasion.)

And calling the M4A1 a "carbine" in that game is bullshit. Especially since, I believe, the AK-74u is in that same category, despite being classified by both NATO and Russia as an SMG. "Carbine" does not have much meaning anymore, since the only difference between an M16A2 and an M4 is four inches of barrel and only slightly less accurate. Following the 5.56mm revolution that came after the M16 and M16A1 were introduced, lighter guns with shorter and shorter barrels have been the norm. Most standard rifles issued to modern militaries today have barrels shorter than 18 inches (approximately the length of an M16 barrel) and, in the US military, the M16 is all but being replaced by the M4, because you have a major advantage in mobility and versatility with 4 inches cut off the barrel and full-auto capability, while retaining most of the accuracy of the longer M16.

Since we're talking about a video game, in Operation Flashpoint: Red River, I made a 550m headshot with an M16A4 with an Aimpoint red dot sight (which is the kind people actually use, not the tiny little ones in CoD and Battlefield, look them up, they look like scopes, but actually offer no magnification) and an M203 grenade launcher (which increases the weight of the gun and makes it less accurate when standing or crouching), as I said, 550m away, firing from the ground through a second-story window about 15 feet above me (which affects how the bullet drops), crouched, with the gun on semi-automatic. (All of these on Xbox, with a joystick, so less accurate than a mouse, of course)

TL;DR Part II: Basically, for a game that constantly touts itself as being "authentic" and "realistic," it... (puts on sunglasses) falls short.

YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!

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[–]IronChariots 19 points20 points ago

The number one "Please Don't" in reddiquette:

Complain about reposts. Just because you have seen it before doesn't mean everyone has. Votes indicate the popularity of a post, so just vote. Keep in mind that linking to previous posts is not automatically a complaint; it is information. Votes indicate how the community values information, so just vote.

[–]KungFuKarl -3 points-2 points ago

This doesn't apply when it's been reposted so many times. I firmly believe that people don't need to go around and find junk on the internet to post to reddit because it's likely already on reddit. That's why people complain about reposts.

[–]Tehkaiser 2 points3 points ago

Hey guys, this just in... If you rape someone enough times, the laws no longer apply!

[–]KungFuKarl 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, because these things are totally parallel. Maybe you should look up 'logic' before you continue to try to apply it.

[–]Tehkaiser 1 point2 points ago

I knew they weren't exactly parallel when I wrote it....

Then again, it was a joke, and most jokes don't use much logic anyways.

[–]SIR_FURT_WIGGLEPANTS 1 point2 points ago

While extreme examples may not be relevant, It does wag its giant throbbing dick in the general direction of logical conclusions.

[–]IronChariots 0 points1 point ago

Really? I was unaware of the "multiple repost" exception to this. Could you point me to the reddiquette guideline that specifies that? How many reposts is too many to qualify for the "don't complain about reposts" thing?

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[–]JFLRyan 11 points12 points ago

You exactly complained.

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[–]1eejit 3 points4 points ago

According to the downvotes you garnered when you said you didn't complain?

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[–]Wolfgang7990 18 points19 points ago

If it counts, it's my first time seeing this.... Take this upvote, it's all I have.

[–]Kresda 0 points1 point ago

Let the jerk begin..

[–]KungFuKarl -3 points-2 points ago

Came here to say this. It's not even the same caption over a similar picture, It's the EXACT SAME POST that everyone's seen 14 times. There was one of these floating around when BLOPS was still the newest game.

[–]Wheat_Grinder -3 points-2 points ago

What do you mean by nowadays? Reddit has been this way a long time.

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[–]darth_holio 1 point2 points ago

gorilla warfare

Thanks for your service in protecting us from the great apes.

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[–]Kashmeer 2 points3 points ago

Standard 4chan copy pasta.

[–]lolpancakeslol 5 points6 points ago

This kind of player behaviour isn't exclusive to CoD games.

So brave.

[–]Grizdango 8 points9 points ago

To be fair if it was realistic to snipers they'd have to be sat in some building 2 map-lengths away.

[–]Backstop 3 points4 points ago

That was a great part of Day of Defeat, being the sniper or MG perched at the end of a long alleyway and just denying the other team half the map.

[–]nickguletskii200 2 points3 points ago

Just sitting there, for hours, watching...

[–]MyPenIsMyWeapon -5 points-4 points ago

And we sure as hell wouldn't want anything realistic on CoD, now would we?

[–]CushtyJVftw 2 points3 points ago

No, because realism doesn't always equate to fun.

[–]ThatOneJackass -1 points0 points ago

Yeah, but magic instant invasions of the entire East Coast and Western Europe out of nowhere, Russians using G36s, Javelins, and FALs, quickscoping, and DUAL WIELDZ are just silly and in some cases lazy.

[–]I_Eat_Toothpaste 0 points1 point ago

Its an arcade shooter, it's not supposed to be über realistic.

[–]JimmFair 20 points21 points ago

/r/circlejerk is that way ----->

[–]NeonBlue22 0 points1 point ago

The one thing i saw on facebook first

[–]4347 0 points1 point ago

Please stop this logic shit

[–]3rdAccoCuzIforgotPW 1 point2 points ago

I'm fed up with CoD, but I'm more pissed off about these kind of posts. MW3 is not a bad game, any game can be shit if the players are dumb.

[–]JustWatch 1 point2 points ago

Yes.

As someone who has played a lot of CoD and got desperately tired of it, MW3 actually made some significant improvements to the metagame.

Unfortunately, the community response to this was to start playing like complete knobs. Even worse than in previous games.

..also whenever they open their mouths...that's pretty bad too.

[–]The-Adjudicator 0 points1 point ago

They're mostly well polished games and the biggest plus in my opinion is the fact that on consoles they still have rather solid splitscreen features with stats being saved.

Although the splitscreen is somewhat lacking in changeable variables compared to one of my favorite games Perfect dark 64, it's still way ahead of most games (on Ps3 at least) these days in regards to local play.

[–]A_Jewish_Nazi 2 points3 points ago

DAE COD SUCKS? HAIL GABEN VALVE RULES OMG ATHEISTS!

[–]Archfiiend 1 point2 points ago

repost logic nowadays

[–]GarenBushTerrorist 0 points1 point ago

What with CS:GO releasing soon I thought the title said Counter Strike logic these days. Same rules apply.

[–]Wortman -1 points0 points ago

Godammit, for once I saw this on Facebook first.

[–]SAXTONHAAAAAAAAAAALE -1 points0 points ago

PLAYER LOGIC, NOT CALL OF DUTY LOGIC YOU HEATHEN.

[–]cggreene 0 points1 point ago

Pretty sure that's the logic in any Fps these days.

[–]sweetcrosstatbro 0 points1 point ago

I've been playing CoD for years now and honestly I don't know why. I guess it could be because my friends play it but for the most part I've just been finding odd things to to entertain myself with within a game that is clearly un-original. I mean I'm pretty sure the level designers are even getting sick of it. "Just add another crashed plane and a tower for people to hide in. They will buy it." The pre order deal for black ops is a futuristic nuke town for fucks sake. There is no way they want to work on this game anymore.

[–]JRobEUG 0 points1 point ago

I don't know what game you're playing, but the vast majority of snipers do not run around. More like, put blind eye/assassin on and find a bush to sit in and snipe.

[–]Tiop -1 points0 points ago

I actually loved quick scoping.

[–]Joshisacowboy 2 points3 points ago

You're getting downvoted for stating your opinion. Stay classy, Reddit.

[–]Tiop 1 point2 points ago

Nah it's cool I didn't expect up votes for admitting I play some of the COD games.

[–]Joshisacowboy 1 point2 points ago

You're not alone! Of course there's terribly annoying parts of CoD, but whatever, I still have fun. That's all I really look for in a video game.

[–]BillMaher4President -3 points-2 points ago

If everyone else is doing it a guess but if your in a regular match what is the point? Just you a shotgun it will give you the same results at that range. Or do you just not know how to properly use a sniper rifle?

[–]DementedHeadcrab 0 points1 point ago

I like quickscoping when I'm completly bored out of my mind in mw2. Usually I'm usually using ak47 with silencer the whole time but if I'm really bored I'll go intervention and akimbo USP's. I won't get as many kills from it but its more fun then when I actually try to snipe and people always spawn behind me

[–]Tiop -4 points-3 points ago

Because it takes more skill and is more fun.

[–]BillMaher4President -2 points-1 points ago

All you have to do is aim at the center of your screen, no skill involved, try shooting a moving target across the map then if your so skilled.

[–]Tiop -1 points0 points ago

You obviously have never tried it.

[–]BillMaher4President -3 points-2 points ago

Ok..what is the furthest you have quick scoped someone? 5-10 feet away? Unless they are standing perfectly still at further distance you have no chance to kill them because you cant line them up....

[–]Tiop 1 point2 points ago

If its far away I just snipe normally.

[–]BillMaher4President -3 points-2 points ago

Yeah good thing, I just dont get why people just dont use secondaries when they are close up. You have them for a reason. The handguns in mw3 are a lot better than people think.

[–]Tiop 0 points1 point ago

I do in other games but if the sniper can take someone out close range easily I dont even need to take the time to switch.

[–]AdziiMate 0 points1 point ago

Why do people even upvote CoD threads anymore. Yeah we get it, you don't like it, get over it.

[–]fanboy_killer 0 points1 point ago

These "logic" posts are getting worse by the day.

[–]MMAAGGIICC 1 point2 points ago

Repost

[–]Roastings -1 points0 points ago

COD BAD!!!11!1!!

[–]pwny_ 0 points1 point ago

It's mostly because using a sniper rifle offensively plays back to the good old days of CoD:UO where it had a much higher skill curve that still translates to later titles. People who have the balls to play this way usually actually have the skill to back it up.

[–]macaronie 0 points1 point ago

not to mention that its fun as shit, you might die a bunch but when you can pull off 2 in a row you feel like a total badass

[–]Simple_Jim 0 points1 point ago

I don't see much skill. I see folks running around with extended mags, which they know they'll need because they miss so much, and mostly when they do manage a hit, it is courtesy of auto-aim. The rifles aim faster than earlier titles, have a higher fire rate as well, and the secondary weapons are beefier than ever. I think a lot of players like to play this way because it takes every element of intelligence out of their play- they can just dander into the middle of the map and blast away, with a decent chance of a few kills and when they inevitably die they can just complain that "the other noobs aren't quickscoping".

[–]zenzubean -1 points0 points ago

Reposts are so funny................

[–]chpper -3 points-2 points ago

The game and that meme are almost a year old. Well done.

[–]ShuQi 0 points1 point ago

Actually, sniping with anything but a sniper rifle is much more fun & satisfying in CoD.

The maps are so small that by using a sniper rifle you can basically pick the exact body part you wish to hit, whereas using any other non-scoped weapon means you have to find & hit that one pixel at the other side of the map.

I just wish they would introduce bigger maps, at least on the PC, and finally add bullet drop.

[–]smq08 2 points3 points ago

No thanks to the bullet drop. CoD isn't BF, and it shouldn't be. Two different experiences. Like one more than the other if you want, but don't try and change them both into the same thing.

[–]w0bb 0 points1 point ago

Nobody said CoD is BF, and nobody said it should. Bullet drop is a pretty simple concept that isn't exclusive to Battlefield, it kinda applies to real life. To some people, without these additions to the game it makes it all feel very arcadey, which CoD indeed is.

Some people don't like that, and a lot of people do, same with everything else.

[–]smq08 0 points1 point ago

You make my point. CoD is arcadey, and a lot of people like it. So, don't touch it. Plenty of other games exist that have those mechanics.

[–]w0bb 0 points1 point ago

I know, but I was trying to say that bullet drop isn't exclusive to BF.

[–]DashThePunk -2 points-1 points ago

you sir need more upvotes.

[–]az4z3l -1 points0 points ago

The maps would need to be huge for bullet drop to come into effect. Otherwise, it would feel like a Nerf battle.

[–]ShuQi -1 points0 points ago

Huge compared to the current maps, yes. But take the Delta Force series as an example, which had bullet drop since their first game and it added so much more to the shooting experience.

Nothing more satisfying than hitting a moving target several hundred meters away from you in that game series.

[–]az4z3l 0 points1 point ago

I completely agree with you. Sniping in BF:BC2 was very satisfying. But it's a different type of satisfying. It is satisfying because of the practice needed. CoD is about being able to pick up and play.

[–]cowpunter -1 points0 points ago

I thought the AA-12 was the new hotness. I had my AA-12 on one class and then another with my ACOG'D M60 for ranged fights.

[–]WheelyBob -2 points-1 points ago

Am I the only one who hates quick scoping? Its so easy, and it makes the game so much less fun to have 6 people running around with snipers instakilling people without really having to aim.

COD4 had quickscoping that was difficult at least

[–]DashThePunk 1 point2 points ago

Wut. MW was the one that made quickscoping so easy to do right? Then BlackOps tried to get rid of the system that CoD4 had and even blocked you from using a quickdraw perk with rifles. At least that's what I remember.

[–]trivas -3 points-2 points ago

And thats why My copy is at gamestop

[–]mask2697 0 points1 point ago

and guy in joker paint brings a knife to a gun fight...and wins...

[–]az4z3l 1 point2 points ago

My favorite thing to do when bored:

Black Ops - Summit/Nuketown/Firing Range w/ SPAS-12/Ballistic Knives/Tomahawk/Marathon Pro/Lightweight Pro/Steady Aim Pro. Run around and cause havoc. The great thing is that I do better with this than a normal loadout.

Feel free to hate CoD for not being realistic, but if you go into it without any expectation for realism, it can be incredibly fun for a couple hours.

[–]graybandit 1 point2 points ago

Black Ops is still so much fun...I love going shotty/crossbow combo on Firing Range and griefing all the MP5 whores :-D

[–]bergyd 4 points5 points ago

I still play Black Ops weekly. I haven't touched MW3 since New Years I don't think.

[–]graybandit 0 points1 point ago

Same here, mostly. I try MW3 every now and again. I'm an average to ok player in Black Ops, pretty decent if I play regularly, but I can drop into MW3 and just destroy people. I don't know if there's just that large of a newbie contingent or if the game is just...training wheels?

Black Ops really has the formula for me, though. I still love it.

[–]graybandit -2 points-1 points ago

Put an ACOG on that sniper and go camper hunting with some flashbangs. It's good times.

[–]DementedHeadcrab 0 points1 point ago

yawn oh... is it time for this post again? oh well see you all tomorrow.

[–]bigjermorules 0 points1 point ago

sounds about right

[–]SimmeG99 -2 points-1 points ago

Trickshotting and quickscoping ftw!!!!!

[–]Novai -1 points0 points ago

It reflects the players that use the weapons. Sniper rifles are an inferior weapon but more fun, so people who run around like headless chickens are more likely to use them. Assault rifles are a much better all around weapon, and camping is a very effective strategy.

[–]mbrace14 -1 points0 points ago

Also, the assault rifles are just as accurate at long range as sniper rifles are...

[–]chinesenoodle 0 points1 point ago

STOP POSTING THIS SHIT

[–]bassplaya13 -1 points0 points ago

I think it's hilarious that people spend 60$ to sit in a corner and pull a trigger once every minute or so

[–]Valve_Sucks -2 points-1 points ago

At least games are better than portal and the others Valve makes...

[–]accountnotfound2 -4 points-3 points ago

If you try to use stratagy in COD, you're gonna have a bad time!

[–]SirCowMan 2 points3 points ago

Have you ever even played CoD? A team in party chat will usually dominate the other team 9 times out of 10. There is strategy in CoD, you just need some good people to play with.

[–]accountnotfound2 -5 points-4 points ago

Yea, I have most version. It's a run and gun game, no battle lines at all. I still play I just see it for what it is.

[–]SirCowMan 2 points3 points ago

And just like any FPS, strategy needs Teamwork. if you find 4 other people to play with, you can easily dominate another team. And while CoD (and most FPSs nowadays) may not have battle lines, it has hot spots and strategic areas. I can't imagine you have too much experience with MW3.

[–]accountnotfound2 -5 points-4 points ago

I made it to prestige 1. Got bored. So no, not much. On the other hand, unlike you, I have no problem picking out the faults instead of defending them.

[–]w0bb 4 points5 points ago

He isn't defending anything, he's simply saying there is more to the game than just "making it to prestige 1". Proper FPS players couldnt give two shits about what level they are, and if you are playing solo or with a buddy or 2 it's NOT the same as having a full, organised team.

[–]accountnotfound2 -3 points-2 points ago

I am just trying to get the point that it is a run and gun shooter not as much strategy as others.

[–]w0bb 2 points3 points ago

Not as much strategy as others... Perhaps. Again- It depends how you play it.

[–]w0bb 2 points3 points ago

Ok, it all depends how you play it. If you are playing on public servers with random people, yes it's a run n gun clusterfuck. If you are playing with an organised team on vent/mumble/skype vs another team on a mix server or even just against randoms, it's a much more tactical and engaging experience.

[–]briandiddy -3 points-2 points ago

CoD is a lost cause

[–]I_Eat_Toothpaste -1 points0 points ago

Lol COD sucks am I rite guise?

[–]G-H-O-S-T -3 points-2 points ago

I think it's shooters* to be precise.

[–]LordOfGummies -3 points-2 points ago

Any FPS is like this. Hell even counter strike involved camping with assault rifles if you ran around too much someone with a sniper rifle was going to pick you off.

[–]JK_92 -4 points-3 points ago

If you're still playing Call of Duty, you're doing something wrong.

[–]RuelasEscobar 0 points1 point ago

Don't hate the game, hate the player. Wait what?

[–]KurtCoBANE -3 points-2 points ago

Basically, if you use the sniper the way it's supposed to be used, you get deemed a noob by 12 year olds. I'm done with Call of Duty.