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[–]xoxolaciejo 100 points101 points ago

Don't let the liberal media tell you how to think and feel! If you have hate in your heart let it out!

[–]Obvious_Troll_Accoun 48 points49 points ago

White power, amen.

[–]ScottyDoesntKnowuh 32 points33 points ago

"WHITE POWER!"

[–]thefreq 24 points25 points ago

HOT SHOWER

[–]ROFLWAWFUL -1 points0 points ago

POTTED FLOWER

[–]JustHereToDerp -3 points-2 points ago

Row row I like Jack Bauer.

[–]soymilknonsense 20 points21 points ago

White powder?

[–]LAC1987 9 points10 points ago

[–]Phyics_Son 9 points10 points ago

SO MUCH COCAINE

[–]isleshocky 1 point2 points ago

Cocaine is a hell of a drug..he he he

[–]goodtimebuddy123 2 points3 points ago

It's cool guys. He used quotation marks

[–]BlackCloud1711 1 point2 points ago

But I am white?!

[–]Boots2Asses 4 points5 points ago

Colin Powell. Condalengus riiice. Condalengus rice sounds like a Mexican dish maybe we should put her on a plate and send to her Mexico, so the Mexicans can eat her!

White power slams stick

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[–]shorterthanyou15 1 point2 points ago

Did you just ruin the new Batman movie for me....?

[–]NamelessPurity 0 points1 point ago

Why is every post being bombarded by Batman spoilers?

[–]shorterthanyou15 0 points1 point ago

No idea, I guess someone is trying to "troll" us.

[–]Forgototherpassword 1 point2 points ago

Whether or not this is true,

hey buddy... Fuck you. (haven't seen it yet)

[–]Tactful 214 points215 points ago

Yes; I also read the comments of that post.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

Wasn't that two days ago?

[–]slavetothesystem 10 points11 points ago

Find out and get back to us.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

It was three.

[–]notcaptainkirk 18 points19 points ago

Honestly, FUCK the OP. Fuck his stupid, unoriginal, wasting my time thinking it'd be something original ass.

[–]AMArequester 33 points34 points ago

TELL EM WHY YOU MAD SON!

[–]cky12qxz 0 points1 point ago

u mad

[–]rickscarf -1 points0 points ago

Should've reposted it as "[FIXED]" and reaped that sweet, sweet karma. You snooze, you loose!

[–]caseyjhol -2 points-1 points ago

How does one loose, exactly?

[–]bopoqod 52 points53 points ago

Hey, it's Uncle Rukus!

[–]Loose_Lipped_Control 14 points15 points ago

That revitiligo curses his life.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

It's the opposite of what Michael Jackson had. Lucky bastard.

[–]KingDingALing1 24 points25 points ago

"Condoleezza Rice sounds like a Mexican dish!"

[–]NocktrnlEmission 13 points14 points ago

"Maybe we should send her to Mexico so the mexicans will eat her! White power."

[–]DrDreampop 3 points4 points ago

Connilingus Rice

[–]xayzer 11 points12 points ago

[–]BengNY 78 points79 points ago

I also imagine he divorced his wife for being a Jew lover.

[–]atzebable 22 points23 points ago

[–]Rumorad 4 points5 points ago

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82404406/ This one has better quality and no weird mirror effect. Edit: Why the fuck am I getting downvoted? I only did that to do you a favor.

[–]tychobrahesmoose 5 points6 points ago

ebaumsworld has a very bad reputation among people who were around when they got big. A combination of shameless monetization of other peoples' content and extreme letigiousness toward people who dared try to take theirs... well, I could explain it to you, but why not SING IT

[–]Asaoirc 0 points1 point ago

Hivemind hates ebaum, maybe?

[–]JosiahJohnson 0 points1 point ago

He's right. It's because fuck Ebaum.

[–]swimviking 10 points11 points ago

I know a guy who spent a long time tracking his genealogy and travelled the world looking through records in various cities. It was a real passion. He ended up at a cemetery in Germany where the tombstones of his ancestors revealed that they were Jews. He came back to the states saying it must have been a mistake. With all the work this guy did tracing his heritage, there is no way he was at the wrong graves. His racism was strong enough to make him drop his passion altogether and just leave his history as an open hole of mystery. Sad.

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[–]11question11 5 points6 points ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

Jews scientifically constitute, and largely consider themselves, a distinct ethnic group of near-eastern semitic origin - see related studies for scientific evidence of this statement. Hatred based on these grounds is racism.

[–]dont_press_ctrl-W 2 points3 points ago

If you were to restrict racism to only matters of race, then racism doesn't exist since there are no distinct human races. Clearly that's a terribly useless definition.

A more useful definition is that racism is any hatred or discrimination based on one or several ethnocultural elements. Skin color, language, religion, national identity, etc...

Under this definition, discrimination and hatred against Jewish peoples is racism.

[–]lolrsk8s_2 1 point2 points ago

That happens to be the official definition of race so that's good.

1a. A group of people belonging to the same family and descended from a common ancestor; a house, family, kindred.

1b. A tribe, nation, or people, regarded as of common stock. In early use freq. with modifying adjective, as British race, Roman race, etc.

1c. A group of several tribes or peoples, regarded as forming a distinct ethnic set.

1d. According to various more or less formal systems of classification: any of the major groupings of mankind, having in common distinct physical features or having a similar ethnic background.

  • OED

[–]dont_press_ctrl-W 0 points1 point ago

Indeed. That is to be contrasted with the older definition:

Race, n. [F. race; cf. Pr. & Sp. raza, It. razza; all from OHG. reiza line, akin to E. write. See Write.]

  1. The descendants of a common ancestor; a family, tribe, people, or nation, believed or presumed to belong to the same stock; a lineage; a breed.

    The whole race of mankind. Shak.

    Whence the long race of Alban fathers come. Dryden.

Naturalists and ehnographers divide mankind into several distinct varieties, or races. Cuvier refers them all to three, Pritchard enumerates seven, Agassiz eight, Pickering describes eleven. One of the common classifications is that of Blumenbach, who makes five races: the Caucasian, or white race, to which belong the greater part of the European nations and those of Western Asia; the Mongolian, or yellow race, occupying Tartary, China, Japan, etc.; the Ethiopian, or negro race, occupying most of Africa (except the north), Australia, Papua, and other Pacific Islands; the American, or red race, comprising the Indians of North and South America; and the Malayan, or brown race, which occupies the islands of the Indian Archipelago, etc. Many recent writers classify the Malay and American races as branches of the Mongolian.

  • 1913 Webster's Dictionary

So indeed the two definitions of "race" and "racism" changed in parallel over time as the notion of "human race" was found out to make little sense.

[–]Aserapha 0 points1 point ago

Interestingly, you can actually get an RNA (not DNA) test to see if you are Jewish.

As traditional Jewish heritage is passed from mother to child (if you dad's a Jew, but your mom's not, your not Jewish, even if you practice Judaism) there is a biological parallel. Although a person's DNA is inherited from both parents, RNA is inherited only from a person's mother in the womb. One of the many maternal RNA lines belongs to the Jews.

Let's be glad genetics was still in it's infancy when Hitler came to power and no one in Nazi controlled Germany knew any of this.

[–]themauwinator 6 points7 points ago

Reading this went something like this.

Hey that looks like Dave Cha- Ohhhhhhhhhh

[–]SailBoatNick 3 points4 points ago

As soon as I read your title my first thought was, "It's going to be Dave Chappelle."

Thank you.

[–]Mrkiruru 3 points4 points ago

"you kids get off my lawn"

[–]Keyserchief 5 points6 points ago

WOOGIE BOOGIE, NIGGER

[–]Shogun24 2 points3 points ago

"Did he just call us niggers?... AWESOME!!!"

[–]claudesoph 4 points5 points ago

"... he filed for divorce from his wife. When asked why, after nineteen years of marriage, he replied, 'Because she's a nigger lover.'"

[–]tree-ent 1 point2 points ago

Anyone have a link to the original?

[–]anonymouslives 1 point2 points ago

That is perhaps the funniest episode. I laugh my ass off every time I see it.

[–]TheDayManCometh 2 points3 points ago

"Sir! I am in no way, shape, or form involved in any niggerdom!"

[–]GRFatman 1 point2 points ago

Oogie boogie nigger !

[–]TheBaconator1990 6 points7 points ago

NAGGERS, JEWS, HOMOSEXUALS, MEXICANS, A-RABS, AND ALL KINDA CHINKS STANK AND I HATE THEM

[–]Shogun24 6 points7 points ago

WIDE-NOSE HAVIN', BREATHIN ALL THE WHITE MAN'S AIR... FRIED CHICKEN EATIN'... AND THEY STANK. Did I mention that already?

[–]Vexxus 1 point2 points ago

White Supremist? I thought it was Supremacist.

[–]elderezlo 2 points3 points ago

Oh no, he just prefers being around white people when they're covered in lettuce, tomato, and sour cream. Your confusion is understandable.

[–]redux_512 1 point2 points ago

not to be confused with supermasochist

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[–]JaronK 18 points19 points ago

Judaism is a religion, an ethnicity, and a culture. He's ethnically Jewish, and that's what he found out.

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[–]Apostropartheid 4 points5 points ago

Judaism is a religion, but most Jewish people* are a "race" (e.g., Ashkanazki, Sephardic &c.) with all the traits to show it. The "Jewish races" would not cover converts into Judaism, but these are very few and far between, and many sects of Judaism do not accept the legitimacy of one's "Jewishness" without a direct bloodline. This, in effect, makes the religion and the race one.

[–]lolrsk8s_2 2 points3 points ago

many sects of Judaism do not accept the legitimacy of one's "Jewishness" without a direct bloodline.

Yeah this isn't actually true. Converts are considered 'especially' Jewish under Orthodox Jewish law because they made a conscious decision.

[–]sabata00 3 points4 points ago

"many sects of Judaism do not accept the legitimacy of one's "Jewishness" without a direct bloodline. This, in effect, makes the religion and the race one. "

Untrue, acceptance of converts is a central tenant of Judaism. Many Jews consider it inappropriate to even ask if someone is a convert, as it could potentially alienate them.

[–]chamora 0 points1 point ago

I don't see how you convert to Judaism.

That's essentially admitting "Yup, you guys are the chosen ones and I am fucked."

[–]Hydrownage 2 points3 points ago

You go to a rabbi, and tell them you want to convert. You study some torah, go through a ceremony, bam you're a citizen of Israel.

[–]Kman778 1 point2 points ago

only more liberal sects are like this and it's not nearly that easy.

[–]Hydrownage 0 points1 point ago

My mom did it, it took a few months, and it's recognized by orthodox rabbis and the state of Israel.

[–]Kman778 0 points1 point ago

what did she have to do exactly?

[–]Hydrownage 0 points1 point ago

Actually my parents are sort of shady about it, because of some stigma they have or they think people might have about her conversion. I don't know the specifics, only that that's how long it took, and that she had to study a bit.

[–]lolrsk8s_2 0 points1 point ago

And if you get converted through a liberal sect you don't qualify for citizenship in Israel.

[–]Kman778 0 points1 point ago

also i'd miss shellfish and pork :(

[–]lolrsk8s_2 0 points1 point ago

Yeah never really thought about that but I suppose they would make sure you were keeping a kosher diet or something.

[–]chamora -1 points0 points ago

My point was that studying the Torah, and not being a hereditary Jew means the Torah tells you "You are an infidel.".

So converting to Judaism is admitting that you are not one of God's chosen ones because you weren't born a Jew.

[–]Hydrownage 1 point2 points ago

If you convert, you become one of the "chosen" people, and indeed in Judaism converts are considered to have been actually "part of the people" from the beginning anyway; they are often respected for having converted because they made the choice to be Jewish. In an ideal world at least. Sometimes people will suspect that the convert did it just for marriage, etc. People will be people.

[–]cgman19 2 points3 points ago

Actually you are wrong. lrn2wikpepdia

Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion; those who have some Jewish ancestral background or lineage (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent); and people without any Jewish ancestral background or lineage who have formally converted to Judaism and therefore are followers of the religion.

[–]jollyxgreenexgiant[S] 9 points10 points ago

It's that he had family members who were jewish.. It's not that it's a race as it is its his heritage and his views were hating on people with that heritage.

[–]dangerbird2 2 points3 points ago

With the exception of converts, one's status as a Jew is passed down from his/her mother. If you are matrilinearly descended from a Jewish woman, you are considered Jewish whether you practice the religion or not. Of course you don't have to consider yourself Jewish, and there are plenty of secular Jews who follow ethnic and cultural aspects of Judaism without following the religion.

[–]thatfool 5 points6 points ago

Jews are also a people. (Judaism doesn't really make the distinction, though.)

[–]coffeemug20 1 point2 points ago

Perfect!

[–]TheAverageBox -1 points0 points ago

Funny, I was thinking that too. xD

[–]Odusei 0 points1 point ago

He didn't "find out." He had always known. He just wanted to keep it a secret.

[–]wildernessthebear 1 point2 points ago

Flippa? Nah, I didn't know him as flippa, I knew him as James the nigga hatin' dolphin.

[–]Dank_n_Spank 0 points1 point ago

The question is, did he divorce his wife for being a Jew lover?

[–]Congorock 1 point2 points ago

[–]wutitdopikachu 1 point2 points ago

You might be interested in the movie The Believer.

[–]AllieCat123 0 points1 point ago

I am so glad I was not the only one who thought of that sketch when I heard that story!

[–]pizza_bro 0 points1 point ago

Has to throw himself down the well.

[–]jakemyers7 -1 points0 points ago

you know he found out about this a long time ago, he was teased about it for the longest time

[–]TheFeebleSparky 0 points1 point ago

No, no, no, He's an undercover white man

[–]stackdatcheese 0 points1 point ago

You can't just remind me of the episode and not link me to the short Q_Q

[–]i-Poo-in-HD 1 point2 points ago

Can someone explain the difference here? If my parents were Christian and I didn't know it, I couldn't just find out one day that I'm actually a christian all of a sudden, I'd still be an atheist. I thought religion was a choice, it's definitely not genetic, no matter what religion it is.

[–]phatkat 4 points5 points ago

'Jewish' can refer to an ethnicity or a religion. Typically people are referring to the ethnicity.

[–]JlyGrnGiant 0 points1 point ago

Heeeey brother.

[–]Dark758 0 points1 point ago

You know you're tired when it takes you 5 mins to get a joke like this >.>

[–]haulin47 0 points1 point ago

My dad mentioned him immediately.

[–]Dotsmom 0 points1 point ago

First thing I thought of when I saw the aritcle!

[–]patio87 1 point2 points ago

25 years old and I still am not clear on this: Is Judaism a race, a religion, both, neither? It seems to fit any case dependent on your perspective.

[–]11question11 0 points1 point ago

That's a tough question, and it largely depends on the person's view of "identity".

The most accurate description is that Jews are an ethnic group whose traditional religion is Judaism. The law of the group states that should a man wish to join the "Jewish People", he must undergo a long and difficult conversion process, but after this he is considered no different than a person who is born a Jew. Being a very religious people, this process of joining the people was framed in a religious context.

However, the rate of conversion for the past 2000 years has been so low that genetically the Jews (or, rather, the jews of Europe, north africa and the Middle East) still constitute a distinct ethnic group, or rather a patchwork of highly related ethnic groups, dependant on location.

To be clear, a Jew can renounce God or join any other religion he likes, and he will still be a Jew.

For many, the religious identity is more important, either because they are religious or because they don't like making ethnic distinctions (Judaism still being pretty definitely the dominant religion amongst the "Jewish People").

In the West, the ethnic component is not often discussed, for reasons of preventing racial antisemitism, respecting those for whom the religious identity is the more important, and the simplicity of not having to teach these subtleties to a public that isn't used to ethno-religious groups.

[–]RedditAddict11 1 point2 points ago

The most accurate description is that Jews are an ethnic group whose traditional religion is Judaism.

This is a conclusory statement that needs a citation to support why your view is the most accurate.

An ethnicity defines itself through common heritage. If you can become a Jew through a conversion process, you're not defining yourself as a Jew through your heritage, but through your own personal experiences and affiliation with a group. You provide no basis for asserting that "ethnicity" is the most accurate characterization of Jews.

However, the rate of conversion for the past 2000 years has been so low that genetically the Jews (or, rather, the jews of Europe, north africa and the Middle East) still constitute a distinct ethnic group, or rather a patchwork of highly related ethnic groups, dependant on location.

So, if their conversion rate was higher, they'd be considered a religion, but instead they've become an ethnicity? This makes no sense. The fact of the matter is that you can't convert to an ethnicity. You either are born a part of that ethnicity or you aren't. Anyways, a different Wikipedia article notes that conversion, at one point, accounted for a doubling of the Jewish population (from 4 million to 8-10 million). So, your point is factually incorrect as well as logically incorrect.

Also, your Wikipedia link is irrelevant. First off, it states that (1) "there are no maternal lines common to all Jewish people," and (2) Y-Chromosomal studies "tend to imply a small number of founders in an old population whose members parted and followed different migration paths." Wow, that's some real confidence in those studies' conclusions. Point one is particularly relevant because Jews often define whether a person is a Jew based on their matrilineal descent.

In any event, to cite that Wiki article as a basis for concluding that Jews are an "ethnicity" seems to be a pretty far reach indeed. You're being disingenuous at best because the article does not confront whether the word "Jew" refers to a religion or an ethnicity.

In reality, Wikipedia defines Jews as an ethnoreligious group, which I see you briefly mention at the end of your comment. Ethnoreligious groups define themselves through a combination of heritage and religious affiliation. This is probably the most accurate description of Jews because people usually mean a combination of both religion and heritage when referring to Jews.

[–]patio87 0 points1 point ago

Same ethnicity as him

Got it.

[–]11question11 0 points1 point ago

The article states that the groups that are related include North African, middle Eastern and Ashkenazi. Ethiopian, as pictured, Indian and other groups are not ethnically a part, but religously are. So, a better analogy is Seinfeld, of Syrian Jewish ancestry, is of a similar ethnicity to Larry David, of Ashkenazic(European) ancestry, which isn't at all obvious considering they lived in different regions for 1000+ years

[–]Lord_of_Aces -1 points0 points ago

Also confusing: A white supremacist who appears to be black.

[–]yoyoyowhatsup 0 points1 point ago

Just cuz im bliinndd don't mean I'm dumb!

[–]naidoo3184 1 point2 points ago

Real life Uncle Ruckus from Boondocks. Hahahah

[–]themagicflea 0 points1 point ago

Literally the hardest I've laughed at anything I've seen on the front page of the internet

[–]scrambles57 0 points1 point ago

Awesome! You found the comment section of the other post!

[–]KoGJazz 0 points1 point ago

Best chapelle sketch

[–]Toneloak 0 points1 point ago

Has anybody else been reading this whole thread with a southern droll.

[–]Raymond890 0 points1 point ago

No. Nobody has.

[–]Untz234 0 points1 point ago

Uncle Ruckas

[–]rahmspinat -1 points0 points ago

Shouldn't that read "Supremacist"?

Cuntsuck.

EDIT: DOWNVOTE? DOUBLE SIXFOLD CUNTSUCK WITH MENSTRUAL BLOOD ON TOP.

[–]DurdenBemis 1 point2 points ago

Because.. She's a nigger lover.

[–]CommanderVinegar 1 point2 points ago

Uncle Ruckus? Is that you?

[–]ernstwebber 0 points1 point ago

Let's talk about Chinese people! With their kung-fu and their silly ching-chang-chong talk! We can't understand you! Go back to yer country! White Power!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

"White power!" Great post!

[–]TheShadowFactory 0 points1 point ago

[–]Upset_Wookie 0 points1 point ago

jobbik?

[–]I-Redeemer 0 points1 point ago

Woogie boogie jews, woogie boogie!

[–]iscire 1 point2 points ago

That was my exact reaction when I read that headline.

[–]Great_Gig_In_The_Sky 1 point2 points ago

Haha I kept waiting for this one.

[–]TheMatheMusician 0 points1 point ago

Clayton Bigsby is my nickname at work! haha

[–]sekter 1 point2 points ago

He knew he was jewish. You don't not know these things.

[–]isleshocky 0 points1 point ago

He divorced his wife because she is a nigger lover. LOL

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[–]11question11 0 points1 point ago

I'm going to keep linking this until this comment stops popping up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

Jews constitute a distinct ethnic group, it is not just a religious group

[–]JD5 1 point2 points ago

Keep up the good work, mate. Why is it so difficult for people to read the comments or use ctrl+f before posting the same comment again?

[–]ajdo -1 points0 points ago

Wow, a study that says middle eastern people are genetically linked, that clears it all up.

[–]11question11 1 point2 points ago

Well, the idea that after a thousand years separation there still are genetic links between these people is a) pretty astounding, b) implies the existence of Jews as an ethnic group ->to be Jewish has a meaning beyond religion -> you can discover you can be Jewish without any reference to religion -> No, the post is not dumb, and yes, it does clear this up

[–]RedditAddict11 -1 points0 points ago

Okay, well I'll keep re-posting this comment until you stop misrepresenting the issue.

Your Wikipedia link is irrelevant. First off, it states that (1) "there are no maternal lines common to all Jewish people," and (2) Y-Chromosomal studies "tend to imply a small number of founders in an old population whose members parted and followed different migration paths." Wow, that's some real confidence in those studies' conclusions. Point one is particularly relevant because Jews often define whether a person is a Jew based on their matrilineal descent.

In any event, to cite that Wiki article as a basis for concluding that Jews are an "ethnicity" seems to be a pretty far reach indeed. You're being disingenuous at best because the article does not confront whether the word "Jew" refers to a religion or an ethnicity.

In reality, Wikipedia defines Jews as an ethnoreligious group. Ethnoreligious groups define themselves through a combination of heritage and religious affiliation. This is probably the most accurate description of Jews because people usually mean a combination of both religion and heritage when referring to Jews.

[–]Raymond890 0 points1 point ago

Good idea. I'll help you.

[–]ImNotActuallyHere 0 points1 point ago

Chapelle show chapelle show Let's start the show

[–]chimpyTT -2 points-1 points ago

Isn't "Jewish" a religion?

[–]11question11 3 points4 points ago

I'm going to keep linking this until this comment stops popping up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

[–]RedditAddict11 -1 points0 points ago

Okay, well I'll keep re-posting this comment until you stop misrepresenting the issue.

Your Wikipedia link is irrelevant. First off, it states that (1) "there are no maternal lines common to all Jewish people," and (2) Y-Chromosomal studies "tend to imply a small number of founders in an old population whose members parted and followed different migration paths." Wow, that's some real confidence in those studies' conclusions. Point one is particularly relevant because Jews often define whether a person is a Jew based on their matrilineal descent.

In any event, to cite that Wiki article as a basis for concluding that Jews are an "ethnicity" seems to be a pretty far reach indeed. You're being disingenuous at best because the article does not confront whether the word "Jew" refers to a religion or an ethnicity.

In reality, Wikipedia defines Jews as an ethnoreligious group. Ethnoreligious groups define themselves through a combination of heritage and religious affiliation. This is probably the most accurate description of Jews because people usually mean a combination of both religion and heritage when referring to Jews.

[–]cptsuperstar -2 points-1 points ago

Found out he was jewish? Isn't that a religion, not a race?

[–]11question11 2 points3 points ago

I'm going to keep linking this until this comment stops popping up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews Jews constitute a distinct ethnic group, it is not just a religious group

[–]RedditAddict11 -1 points0 points ago

Okay, well I'll keep re-posting this comment until you stop misrepresenting the issue.

Your Wikipedia link is irrelevant. First off, it states that (1) "there are no maternal lines common to all Jewish people," and (2) Y-Chromosomal studies "tend to imply a small number of founders in an old population whose members parted and followed different migration paths." Wow, that's some real confidence in those studies' conclusions. Point one is particularly relevant because Jews often define whether a person is a Jew based on their matrilineal descent.

In any event, to cite that Wiki article as a basis for concluding that Jews are an "ethnicity" seems to be a pretty far reach indeed. You're being disingenuous at best because the article does not confront whether the word "Jew" refers to a religion or an ethnicity.

In reality, Wikipedia defines Jews as an ethnoreligious group. Ethnoreligious groups define themselves through a combination of heritage and religious affiliation. This is probably the most accurate description of Jews because people usually mean a combination of both religion and heritage when referring to Jews.

[–]CYBERDYNE9000 -2 points-1 points ago

How can you be Jewish and not know it? Can you also be Christian, Muslim or Hindu and not know it??

"I've been an atheist all my life, but I found out my great grandparents were Christians. Better get to church before I upset Jesus."

wtf(seriously why do people consider Jews a race?)

[–]11question11 -1 points0 points ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

because they are genetically a distinct population cluster of Semitic origin.

It is better to consider Judaism as the traditional religion of the Jewish people, which may be described as an ethnic group or "tribe". The ancient tribal laws dictated that should a man desperately wish to join the "tribe", and in so doing accept his place as a member with equal responsibilities, he may do so, and would be considered no lesser a member than one born to the tribe. This is the origin of the conversion law, and it's language is through that of the religion of the time. However, by quirk of history and due to the difficulty of the process, conversion rates have been so low that the "genetic drift" has been very small - hence, the ethnic differences between the Jews and the native populations, wherever they may be, have largely remained (Not so in Ethiopia and India - see article, but this appears to be the case in Europe/North Africa)

Many (most?) modern Jews consider themselves to be ethnically Jewish, and may or may not follow the religion at all, or join any other religion.

It is a complicated thing, yes, because it doesn't fit into the "Western" view of religion and "people-hood". However, in the middle-East, it's not that uncommon - see the Druze or the Alawi.

[–]CYBERDYNE9000 0 points1 point ago

the fact still remains I can convert to Judaism and be considered a Jew and not be part of their race. Agree?

[–]11question11 1 point2 points ago

Two responses:

1) No. You would be considered an equal member of the Jewish people, and never would this be held against you in any way or brought up in conversation, but you are not racially the same as them, and not ethnically Jewish (in a genetic sense).

In this sense, the "Jewish People" is not 100% identical to the Jewish race, but is rather a very slightly larger superset - see next point. The "people" is more of a national structure than a racial one, but again, the distinction is very blurred due to low interconversion.

2) The reason both labels can be simultaneously applied - the labels of "member of the Jewish faith" and "man of Jewish ethnicity" - is that the rate of conversion has been so low as to make very little genetic impact - in short, no one wanted to be a Jew! It is a case of if a drop of red paint enters an ocean, are you wrong in calling the ocean blue?

This has changed over the last 50 years, and interest in conversion has increased due to greater acceptance and intermarriage.

During the early 20th century, the term "Hebrew" had been used to imply Jewish race without any bearing on religion. However, due to the irrelevance of the distinction (the number of converts being so low), eventually this term died away. A part of this may have been Jews not wanting to emphasise racial difference. However, the semantics of the issue shouldn't be too great an issue, if you understand how Jewish culture works

It should of course be noted that a Jew who is non-religious (which is a huge proportion), or converts to a different religion, is still a Jew, so already inherent in our modern very poor descriptive vocabulary we still acknowledge that Jew= follower of judaism is inherently inaccurate

[–]CYBERDYNE9000 0 points1 point ago

TIL

[–]Synackaon -2 points-1 points ago

Because traditionally Jewish adherents would intermarry and remain within their own set of clans. This had the effect of creating a set of "Jewish"-mostly ethnicities.

[–]CYBERDYNE9000 -2 points-1 points ago

surely there's a name for the race that's not synonymous with a faith that a person of any race can join though.

Don't Jews like to be called Semites? I understand that term speaks to their traditional geographic area(Israel, Syria, Jordan). The problem with that is it includes a lot of Arabs as well. Well, a problem for Jews who don't want anything to do with gentiles.

Let's face it, Jew isn't a race, it's a religion. If I decide to convert to Judaism I don't become part of their race. My genetics aren't altered by switching religion.

[–]Synackaon -1 points0 points ago

Look, are you going to argue with what people, however lazy, incorrect, moronic, ill-thoughtout, banal, etc, actually use as terminology?

I don't represent them. I just re-radiate that people group Jewish-descent as an ethnicity due to their interbreeding. 'Nuff said.

[–]CYBERDYNE9000 -2 points-1 points ago

I'm not arguing with anyone. take it down a notch.

[–]YETIS_DICK -2 points-1 points ago

he's probably gonna kill his self, just so there'll be one less jew around.

edit: it's an adaptation of a line from the sketch this post is referencing, quit downvoting it

[–]cbigsby 0 points1 point ago

WHAD'YA MEAN I'M BLACK?!

[–]skyman724 -2 points-1 points ago

This is a GIFail.

(I mean it should be a GIF; your JPEG is bad and you should feel bad, though not for the idea of the post cause that shit was funny)

[–]criminalpiece 0 points1 point ago

Cue image of cartman as a ginger. GIMME KARMA

[–]oxynitrate -2 points-1 points ago

Judaism is a religion. If you don't believe in the dogma of a religion you're not that religion. Why do people proclaim someone Jewish because a family member was. No one really turns around and states "oh hey your granddad was Christian, therefor you are."

[–]egomosnonservo 1 point2 points ago

Because Jewish is also an ethnicity, dumbass.

[–]RzK -3 points-2 points ago

I dont understand how this picture shows how he felt

[–]Darklight_2501 -3 points-2 points ago

Being Jewish is a religion. How do you "discover" you are Jewish? Will I be walking down a street one day, and be like "Holy shit I just realized I'm Latvian Orthadox!"?

[–]Darklight_2501 -1 points0 points ago

This is just the people writing the study using "Jewish" to describe the majority of the population studied. It's lazy thinking, and doesn't apply at the individual level. You could genetically test a state that was primarily red/blue politically in the states and phrase the results the same way.

If you do think Judism is determined by genetics, then all religions must be. Do you think when a child is born they should be genetically tested and their religion recorded on heir birth certificate with blood type?

Come on people, this isn't conceptually complicated. :(

[–]11question11 1 point2 points ago

I don't quite agree. The results indicate that Jews are ethnically distinct from the host populations wherever they have lived over the past 1000 years. If someone is ethnically distinct from a different population, they may claim to have an ethnic identity. On the other hand, the differences in ethnicity between other religions is merely down to their locality - a Christian Serb is ethnically Serbian, a Muslim Turk is ethnically Turk. For Jews, their ethnic identity is one of (several) ethnic groups that are not summarized by "German", "Arab", etc. In this sense, they are ethnically distinct.

[–]Darklight_2501 -1 points0 points ago

On this point I agree. But ethnicity is very different from genetics.

I suppose the issue isn't very relevant as the group of bigots who are rejecting the person in the news story probably don't appreciate the difference.

[–]Raymond890 0 points1 point ago

I need to wrap my head around this. Too much controversy.

[–]necroblze -3 points-2 points ago

Am i the only one who realizes that Judaism is a religion and not a race..? Just because your family is Jewish that does NOT make you Jewish. Those who say that under Jewish law it does make you a Jew, that's like saying everyone who eats crunchy peanut butter is a (insert ridiculous made-up religion here) under (insert ridiculous made-up religion here) law

[–]luft 1 point2 points ago

It's both, actually.

[–]jgoebbels -4 points-3 points ago

We're expected to believe that he didn't know that his grandfather was a Jew and his mother didn't know that she was a Jew,every Neo-Nazi gang so far has had a Jewish leader,it's called controlled opposition,wake the fuck up.