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[–]CthulhusCallerID 27 points28 points ago

I never know how to feel about 9-11 pictures when they pop up on Reddit. On the one hand, who am I to question the impact that these events had on anyone who posted their pictures? On the other, well, I can't help but feel that it's vaguely exploitative.

It pulls up a lot of feelings I had after 9-11 whenever I left New York and everyone tried to get me to talk about, or worse, would be like "This is my nephew/friend/cousin/brother, CC'sID, he was there. You should ask him about it."

Probably that colored my perspective quite a bit, but it was my experience that to the people who were close it wasn't something we talked about, and if we did, it certainly was not for attention. I'm not saying that OP is doing this, but, man, conjuring up 9-11 for upvotes? Not a substantive conversation, but just a neat picture, it rubs me the wrong way.

[–]WTFNinja 7 points8 points ago

As an American, I often wonder if my view of that day is shared bay anyone here in the states. Im 23 years old and was in the middle of going to class, when we where all sent home early. I saw on the news that the towers where hit by a plane. I didn't care. Now, as an adult I still dont.

I look at the wold and see the war and shit that goes on. Who are we to keep bringing this up, time and time again. You dont see Japan complaining about the bombs we dropped on them. You dont hear about the London bombings that happened.

I lost family in those towers. I did so in the Oklahoma City bombing. So why do we keep bringing this up? 9-11 was a day when we where caught with our pants down. It gave us a reason to go to war for political agendas.

Now, I'm no one to shit on the feelings of others, but it's time for America as a whole to move on. People come and go, and shit happens. We need to learn from it and keep moving along. For that sake of our future, and for the memories of the fallen.

Down-vote me in to oblivion for having my own opinion if you will. I just hope somebody out there feels the same way as I do. Or close to it.

[–]kickitamor203 0 points1 point ago

Gonna be honest, I downvoted you. But I still kind of get where you're coming from. It's hard to relate to all this tragedy (which is way more commonplace that the US media makes it out to be) that occurs far from home. Even when it is "close to home", as in one of the victims is a family member or friend, that's still a different person. Intense emotion is difficult to generate when faced with any level of removal, much less miles or generations.

I was ten during 9/11. You must have been 11-12? I didn't understand it then, and I've only started understanding it recently. Every year, the reminder weighs more heavily on me because I've become more aware of what a great tragedy for our country this act of terrorism was. It wasn't just thousands of lives - it was fear and hate and crucial vulnerability. As an adult(ish), THAT'S what I relate to. It's not that I saw the second plane hit the tower in my music class that morning, or that I went home from school early that day, but rather that I now understand how it feels to be that afraid and that vulnerable and that utterly helpless in a way that I never did as a child.

We can "move on": mourn in healthy ways, rebuild, squabble over a Muslim community center. But that experience of fear and attack can't be erased from our collective psyche. If you haven't experienced it, or you were in that adolescent sweet spot where you understand and genuinely didn't care, then good for you. But a lot of us learned fear, not security, from 9/11.

[–]Christendom -3 points-2 points ago

| I lost family in those towers. I did so in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Doubtful.

| You dont see Japan complaining about the bombs we dropped on them. You dont hear about the London bombings that happened.

Horrible comparison.

One event was during a world war, one that had being going on in that part of the world for 4+ years. Arguably the A-bombs saved more lives on both sides. We also dropped leaflets for days beforehand saying...hey bad things are coming, gtfo.

One was an act of terrorism.

[–]TheOnlyDoctor 2 points3 points ago

He isn't comparing. He is just showing that every other country seems to move on faster than us

[–]Christendom -1 points0 points ago

Again, doubtful.

Japan didn't move on in 10 years (actually 11). It's pretty easy to say...oh yeah they moved on from shit that happened almost 70 years ago. Japan buried the truth as to what type of atrocities they committed in WW2, denied events, changed history books...and still don't accept them to this day. I imagine people living in the places like Sarajevo didn't just "get over it" 10 years later.

But in reality, the country has moved on. 9/11 just gets brought up as a banner for folks to continue to take away civil liberties and fund wars stopping terrorism. To the average Joe, we remember...but everyone has moved on.

I'll also mention that 9/11 changed the country, good or bad. 2 wars, Patriot Act. It effectively changed the Republican party into the uber-right wing nut factory it is now. Pre 9/11, Americans were bit more isolated. That type of shit happened in other countries, not ours. I wouldn't really call it a wake up call, but more of a smack in the face saying you aren't untouchable. We didn't really care for that.

[–]GlassHouseResident 14 points15 points ago

Title is understatement.

[–]AmberHeartsDisney 2 points3 points ago

Glad you made it out alive.

[–]fagalisk3 14 points15 points ago

When American bombs rained down from the sky onto Iraq and when American soldiers marched into the villages of Afghanistan they killed more innocent people than those planes.

When you remember the deaths of the innocent at the hands of the enemy, it would do you well to remember the deaths of the innocent at your own. A tragedy is a tragedy, no matter where you live.

[–]what_comes_after_q 2 points3 points ago

That doesn't make the day any less tragic. This was a terrible and traumatizing day, period. Get your smug moral superiority out of here. If you want to join the anti war circle jerk, you can seriously go to any post in /r/politics. Listen to your own words and shut the fuck up, for Christ's sake.

edit: words.

[–]U-r-an-asshole -1 points0 points ago

Lol American fag.

[–]SexualArtillery 1 point2 points ago

now lets invade some country to light up our mood.

[–]StornZ -5 points-4 points ago

God bless the people who lost their lives and loved ones. I was only in 3rd grade but i remember the sight on my television screen when I got home. It is forever the scariest thing in my life. Especially living in new york

[–]Boots2Asses 16 points17 points ago

Is it me or are redditors getting younger and younger?

[–]digitalmasta 3 points4 points ago

So to answer your question...based off the comments, Yes...yes they are. I was 16.

[–]StornZ 0 points1 point ago

i wouldn't know

[–]VanillaMIlkshakes 0 points1 point ago

I was five ( ._.) I still remember it, however.

[–]soulofgranola 0 points1 point ago

Damn.

[–]manueljljl 1 point2 points ago

Dude, I was in first and I remember it like it was yesterday. I will never forget the fear in lady over the intercoms voice.

[–]mfih1989 1 point2 points ago

The word spread slowly around my school, hearing it at first my mind instantly thought it was a movie and non of it could possibly be real.

[–]wennyn 0 points1 point ago

What did she say? I was on my way to my babysitting job, I heard on the radio that they would keep me updated on the "events in New York" but I didn't realize what was going on until I got to the baby's house and talked to the mom.

[–]manueljljl 1 point2 points ago

I didn't really know what had happened until I got home, but what she said was something along the lines of "staff members report to the cafeteria" and something about calling your loved ones.

Now the real story is my dad's. See, he's a truck driver and in 2001 his truck still didn't have radio(or not working) and he only had a pager. That's still besides the point, he was in a truck stop and had just bought a chocolate bar and refill on his tank. He then proceeded to walk towards the door when he glanced at CNN and saw the commercial suddenly change to a burning building. Everyone in the truck stop including the people outside came inside to see. There were at least 25 people he said. For a good half hour they all stood silent and watched the small tv. When the second plane hit... he couldn't say how terrified everyone watching was. He also stressed out that because it was live and even hearing the anchors reactions made that scene scaring.

It pains me to see comments and posts about how "it happen 10 years ago get over it" or jokes about 9/11. It's not the fact that many people died and partially it is, but it's the terror and silence America felt for that hour. It was an act of terror that worked. I'm honestly glad I was a little younger.

[–]jstev612 0 points1 point ago

yeah that really wasn't a great day

[–]midnightrosexs 1 point2 points ago

Living in the UK, I don't remember much of what I was doing that day and always thought that the closest I would get to events that happened would be on TV, in the papers or online. Friday afternoon, I was looking around a museum with my boyfriend that had on display part of the North Tower. Not knowing what to do, I stood in silence for a good 10 minutes, maybe even more, not knowing if I should cry.

[–]Triassic_Bark 0 points1 point ago

I'm not sure why you think this, but it is absolutely not true. Feel free to send me a link to evidence showing that Canada sent anyone to Iraq.

[–]hakkzpets 0 points1 point ago

I always wondered why people seem to think it's clever to attack USA.

Bomb harbor - Get nuked.

Crash towers - Get annihilated.

What saddens me the most with 9/11 is by how far the terrorist did win. All the freedom that was lost on that day.

[–]Aidea 0 points1 point ago

I was in 4th grade and my school canceled recess, I was devastated. I remember it like it was yesterday.

[–]soulofgranola 0 points1 point ago

Why the downvotes on this one guys?

[–]Daeolt 0 points1 point ago

My school didn't do shit. Hell I didn't find out about it until I got home.

Next day no one said anything. There were a few whispers among students and a few teachers took the day off the next day but no one cared to explain it.

[–]gallantfox -1 points0 points ago

ME TOO except being on the west coast school was just starting but we were all told to go to the gym

[–]Nosirrom -1 points0 points ago

Uuughhh bad picture match-up. Lines don't fit.

[–]Jhnbytwoo 0 points1 point ago

I didn't quite realize at what I was looking and as such my first thought was, "Come now, you could have angled that better."

[–]Triassic_Bark -4 points-3 points ago

This is a pleasant memory for me. The day that the US finally got the first taste of what it has coming to it. Chickens coming home to roost.

[–]Wildcard1222 -4 points-3 points ago

You people DO realize that this "attack" wasn't the work of some angry, religious, nutcases across seas, right? For the love of God, tell me you aren't all still under the impression that everything the US government told you about what happened is REALLY what happened. You Americans vote in a moronic ape of a president (Bush) who just HAPPENS to have a fortune in the oil industry, and then you think it isn't connected when you are "attacked" by a foreign country where, once you start invading, the cost of oil will only skyrocket? Oh, and let’s not forget about Dick Cheney, your VP at the time, who was… wait for it…. THE CEO OF HALLIBURTON, A FUCKING OIL COMPANY!!! Come the fuck on already.

I mean, it isn’t like it wasn’t obvious to the entire world what had happened. The one day you are attacked, what was your president doing? Reading to fucking children? HE CAN BARELY FORM A COHERENT SENTENCE, MUCH LESS READ, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!!! If your country is about to be “attacked”, and every moment of that day is going to be written in the history books, what is a better way to come off with a good impression than reading to children? Should we move on to Flight 93, and how it was not crashed because of some “Brave Americans” (oxymoron if I have ever seen one), and how instead it was shot down by your own government? How hard do you think it would be for the government to smooth that over? Send out a few false text messages, set up false witnesses, etc. Nothing new to your country, believe me.

A plane is heading for the white house and there is no way to stop it, short of shooting it down. What the fuck are you doing to do? Seriously, Americans, put down your quadruple cheese burgers and get off your fat-asses and do some research instead of being blindly lead by the a hand that is also holding you down. In closing this rant, I really don’t care if you down vote me over this, but hopefully at least I sparked just a little bit of curiosity on the matter, and HOPEFULLY at least one of you might have had your eyes opened to the truth about America.

[–]LikeIt_is 2 points3 points ago

Lets ease up on the conspiracy theories this isn't r/politics or r/imparanoidasshit.

Though I do love when someone falls into the "WAKE UP SHEEPLE" argument. When in reality, where most of us live, you have no proof other then some concocted theories of how the world is run by people we don't see and "no one know but me, because I'm the smartest guy in the room"

The attack was a tragedy so enough of your conspiracy theory shit and your firebait of a comment. Go put your tin foil hat back on and keep sweating about how the government remote listens to all of our conversations via cell phones

[–]hakkzpets 0 points1 point ago

I'm not the one to say that 9/11 was an inside job, but the world is run by a few persons (well, a few when you look at the entire population) you never see.

[–]Wildcard1222 -1 points0 points ago

Are you intentionally being a fucking moron, or have you just had that problem since birth? Ok, I will be nice and dissect that shit you call a post....

First, I am well aware of where I am posting, hence why my post is here and not there. Second, there is a mountain of proof out there supporting everything that I have said, you are just way to lazy to look it up. BTW, the world IS run by people that you don't see, asshat. Anyone who isn't a fucking idiot can realize this. Thirdly, I never said I was the only one who knew this, or that I am the smartest guy in the room. Nearly all of the world knows this is the truth behind 9/11, aside from you ignorant Americans.

[–]LikeIt_is 0 points1 point ago

BTW, the world IS run by people that you don't see

Thank you for proving my point..and I apologize for responding to your initial post. I see from your previous comments that either :

a.) your account is purely flamebait b.) you really are out of your mind and kind of a dick

Either way good luck to you and the book you want to write containing the vast amounts of illnesses you know are government lies like AIDs and ADHD

[–]Wildcard1222 -3 points-2 points ago

AIDS was invented to kill homosexuals, hence the spreading of "make love, not war" in the 1970's. ADHD is caused by the wiggling of catfish tails in Japan, everyone knows that. Yes, I had a grammatical error, therefore my entire post most be wrong. As for me being a dick, I won't argue there. I really am. I suppose my account is flamebait, but only because I am expressing a view that goes against the grain of the mainstream media.

[–]ImprovedLz 2 points3 points ago

Since you're making the claims, the burden of proof is on you.

[–]Wildcard1222 -5 points-4 points ago

Ok, here is a reply to your original post, before you deleted and reposted that.

Ok... here we go then.

1.) Yes, it has been stated that he was reading to children. There is proof that he was reading to children. I never questioned this, I questioned the fact that of all the things he could have been doing that day (taking a shit, in flight, shooting pool, etc.) he just HAPPENED to be doing something that would be give him great PR coverage?

2.) If the plane was shot down, do you really think the government would ever let any of that out? Not trying to use omission as evidence, but the circumstances are a little peculiar. Here is a lovely link that might clear some things up for you... http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_secondary_debris_field.html

3.) You think it would be hard to cover something like that up? Obviously you haven't read much about the death of Marilyn Monroe in 62, and what happened at the telephone company immediately after.

Lastly, the burden of proof is NOT on me, you ignorant fuck. I'm not going to hold your hand and educate you about how your government lies to you on a daily basis, you need to do the grunt work to find out the truth.

EDIT: Just as an after thought, I love how your original post completely ignored my whole first paragraph. Ignore the truth, nerdrage about the rest. Good job with that.

[–]hakkzpets 1 point2 points ago

Of course the burden of proof is on you. What are you, some sort of religious person, claiming it's the none believers who needs to prove that god does not exist?

[–]Wildcard1222 0 points1 point ago

Ignore everything but the one sentence you can argue against... good tactic, mate. Again, I am not going to hold your hand and educate you. If I actually liked you, maybe, but I don't so I'm not.

[–]hakkzpets 0 points1 point ago

I refused to even read through your post when I saw that part.

[–]Wildcard1222 0 points1 point ago

Well thanks for being honest about being ignorant. Not many would openly admit that. Cheers to you, mate.

[–]hakkzpets 0 points1 point ago

Here's some news for you. The world is run by lizards, living in Megacities under the sea bottom.

Proof is on you to show me wrong. Have fun.

[–]Midonsmyr -1 points0 points ago

Scumbag OP, rightly thinks 9-11 is an unpleasant memory, still carries a photo of that unpleasant memory over a decade later.

ಠ_ಠ Karma whoring at its lowest.

[–]jrthebigman -4 points-3 points ago

There still not done building the towers back? Its been 12 years!!!!