As a new PC Gamer switching from Xbox. This sums up my first BF3 match. : gaming

Steam sales, gog.com, amazon downloads, etc. During the steam sale I bought about 20 games for less than 50 bucks. And not bullshit small games, I mean AAA titles. If I'd bought the same games at gamestop, even used, I would have payed at least double or triple what I spent with steam.

And then you think about the price of the system. I paid ~$650 for this computer (with the monitor and speakers and stuff). This thing can play everything at max settings and I can do all my regular computing on this.

So a quick breakdown. For the games and my system, I spent about $700. Say you bought your xbox brand new. That was like, what, $300? And it rrod'd, so you bought a new one. That's another $200 or so. You need something to play it on, though, right? $200 for a tv. Okay, now you need some games for that bad boy! You've spent a lot now though, so you buy some older $20 games. Maybe three or four of them. So like $60 for games.

At this point, you're already $60 over me, have way less games, and you don't even have a computer! So why deal with all the bullshit of a console that will eventually become irrelevant when you can buy something that you can cheaply upgrade forever and use for anything you need?

[–]Moldy_Pussy 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago

Seeing as how my xbox has never red ringed and it only cost 250 dollars your maths a little janky. My 24inch hd tv was 150 dollars. And on my xbox i can watch netflix browse the internet soon enough, have a game store and movie and music store. The game store has as many titles as steam, but i am envious of there sales ill give ya that. I will never have to update my equipment besides a new console every, what has it been? 10 years. How many upgrades will you have to do in 10 years? Add that to your pc price. Did i mention i can play every new game as soon as it comes out? You have to upgrade or just wait for it, and sometimes its never even available for pc. Consoles are more fun to play with friends, and most games are designed around them. I respect pc gaming but this is all true accept console and pc are equal in everyway. Oh wait you can turn up the graphics slightly, wanna medal?

[–]Bear_Masta 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago

I had two xboxes red ring before I gave up on it, so obviously mileage will vary. Your point on updating consoles once a decade is definitely well recieved, but the same can really be said about computers as well. Upgrading the pc is an option, not a mandate. Just as easily as the graphics scale up, they also scale down. I played WoW all the way through cataclysm on the same laptop, that wasn't even remotely ideal for games, since launch. Not really ideal, but very versatile.

My main draw is that I've condensed a game system and computer into one item. I mean, yeah you CAN download music and stuff on the xbox, but the idea of using your xbox to do everything your computer can do is not the same as using your computer for everything an xbox can do.

I do agree with you on the game availability topic, but it goes for consoles as well. Red Dead Redemption was a fantastic game, and it's pretty sad that people with only a PC can't experience that. But remember, there are lots of great games for PC that don't reach the consoles.

And you can't discount the great online experience (no mandatory subscriptions, even WoW can be played sub-free on private servers), mods to enhance (or completely change a game, i.e. Counter-strike, Portal, etc), and the whole "it's an actual computer" thing.

I'm not trying to be elitist here; consoles DO have their advantages. Like you said, I can't really have friends over and play some smash bros or golden eye or whatever, but I'm pretty sure, overall, PC really does the upper hand. To each their own, but once you're ready to make the jump, we'll be here with open arms.

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[–]pcgame-jedi 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago

You don't need to buy the best PC or spend an outrageous sum of money to play PC games.

Just don't buy pre-built rigs from the various vendors, research and build it yourself. Putting together a PC is like building somthing with legos. It's so easy children can do it. And you save a lot of money.

2) Do not listen to fanboys about buying computer parts. These are the idiots who will convince you that you need to buy their brand preference, and the higher end products so they can brag on forums or in game about how they converted another person to their side.

PCs aren't that expensive when compared to a console. When these things launched, they were much more expensive. You are currently paying for extremely outdated hardware when you buy a current gen game console. One thing you have to remember is that an Xbox or PS3 is really old, and has been mass produced which has helped drive down the prices. In fact, you are paying too much for what you get because they can knock that stuff out for next to nothing these days.

If you are serious about a PC, you need to research what games you want to play, what settings and resolution you want to play at and then decide on a budget.

I recently built an i5-2500k based rig that was mixed parts. Spent $500, the build included a new SSD. (not including a monitor) Some parts brand new, some used from friends or from the buy/sell/trade sections of PC enthusiast sites that I participate in.

I could have spent less if I didn't add in an SSD or got a less powerful video card.

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Absolutely. I've always wanted to build myself a computer with all-around capabilities. Gaming really came into the picture at the end of the story, but right before I really decided to go for it.

But, truth be told, the 670 really does hold it's own. I personally don't have much interest in multi-panel gaming, so the one hi-res monitor is what I really wanted and the 670 does what I've asked of it so far. As I mentioned somewhere there, I am already looking into SLI-ing another one, but I'm not sure I'll need it.

But it is much more an overall "best" versus a "gaming best", while still on a budget. If I had no budget whatsoever, please know that I would have gone way more than what I have.

edit: I guess it would have been better for me to say "best for my particular budget", huh? But I thought that was kind of implied...