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[–]lizzykins97 9 points10 points ago

People change over time. Someone who was your best friend in grade/high school may have become more religious as you became less religious. You are friends with them because you shared a friendship, and despite having dissimilar views on the world, you still have those moments in common. They don't always post those kinds of things on Facebook, but when they do it usually catches you off guard that someone who used to be your best friend could harbor such hateful prejudices. But if the posts don't occur very often, you rarely get upset enough to delete them off of Facebook.

[–]klaymankombat 4 points5 points ago

Well a lot of the time, other than their religion (that you might not even know about) they're totally cool people. This works in reverse too, a few christian friends of mine have admitted that they're closet-skeptics, and i would have never known or asked. In my experience, people for the most part keep their religion to themselves, it's only when they're poked (no pun intended) and prodded that they unleash their true colors.

[–]HBlight 3 points4 points ago

Because some idiots can still be helpful and good.... while still being idiots.

Honestly if people were not friends with me because of my flaws I would not have any fr... bad example.

[–]darklooshkin 2 points3 points ago

Because they're as addicted to real-world drama as anybody else that was forced to watch soap operas because mom hogged the controller when they were kids? Well, that and facebook is the socially acceptable Big Brother; get a large enough group of 'friends' together and there'll always be someone doing something incredibly stupid as a result.

[–]grumpyoldfart 2 points3 points ago

I think that every time. I also wonder why they would post such stupidity from one of their "friends?. Don't they realize how it reflects on them?

[–]theshoelessone[S] 1 point2 points ago

Exactly! Just unfriend them and move on with your life if what they post offends you. I know I've lost plenty of "friends" on Facebook for posting links to atheist websites or making negative comments about religion. It's very much a two-way street.

Instead of publicly arguing about it and posting a screenshot for karma, either ignore them, hide them from your feed, or unfriend them.

[–]artistadomundo 1 point2 points ago

It's important to be friends with people with differing views! On the one hand, it keeps you honest in your ideas about the world. On the other, making people aware that their opinion/ideas/beliefs aren't the majority helps weaken the negative ones.

I'll always be friends with my evangelical friends as long as they'll be mine!

[–]Mannycu 0 points1 point ago

There's the hope that, over time, you might be able to make their lives just a tiny bit better by challenging their previously unchallenged notions of "good" and "bad" as it relates to religion. Even then, simply a disagreement about faith (etc) shouldn't be a deal breaker on a friendship you've invested a great amount of time on.

[–]theshoelessone[S] 0 points1 point ago

I said it in another comment, but I want to reiterate: I don't mean you shouldn't be friends with people who have different beliefs.

What I am saying is why would you start a public argument about them on Facebook, then post the screenshots of it to Reddit if they are your "friend." Why be Facebook friends with them at all if they just post things that piss you off enough to start an argument with them?

[–]Mannycu 0 points1 point ago

Depends on how frequently they post and the "heat" of the argument I suppose.

I've never done the "posting on reddit" thing but I've got a fair number of religious friends who'll occasionally post something that I fundamentally disagree and we'll argue about it over FB. But to the uninformed observer it looks like we're pissing each other off with a super heated argument but we're actually just having a debate.

Now if all they're doing is posting "things that piss you off enough to start an argument with them" then chances are you shouldn't be friends with that person but chances are they post about other things as well.

[–]Dick_Dynamo 1 point2 points ago

For reddit karma

[–]rt79w 1 point2 points ago

Otherwise facebook would be boring as shit.

[–]Momordicas 1 point2 points ago

For karma :P

[–]bibliophile190 1 point2 points ago

Because karma.

[–]DoubleRaptor 1 point2 points ago

I always wonder why it's not in /r/TheFacebookDelusion, to which I do not subscribe.

In most of the cases the discussion ends up being just regurgitated facts that everyone already knows or could find out if they were curious. I have no problem with that discussion taking place, intellectual debate is one of the finest things someone can engage in, I just don't think it's really something to show off about.

[–]Wingflier 1 point2 points ago

NO SHIT

[–]calis 1 point2 points ago

If I chose to only associate with people that had the very same ideals as me I would be be very lonely.

[–]lumpydumdums 0 points1 point ago

But your friends are not likely the ones we are talking about here. Of course you are going to hold some different views than your friends do. Some of those differences will include areas on the faith/spirituality/atheism spectrum. But if you have to call them out on Facebook for being racists, bigots, homophobes (or worse, Republicans) you might need to re-evaluate some of those friendships.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

I have friends who I get along with great, we have the same sense of humor, we like to do the same things, but they're Christians. I'm not going to unfriend them and not hang out with them because of that.

[–]lumpydumdums 1 point2 points ago

But do they call for the execution of homosexuals, atheists, democrats etc. on Facebook? If not, then these aren't the sort of people we're talking about here (at least not to me). Simple civil discourse over religious topics between friends is healthy. Doing it over FB is a bit tacky though.

[–]Grateful_max 0 points1 point ago

Karma.

[–]Madderp 0 points1 point ago

Because it brings in karma.

[–]gobberpooper -1 points0 points ago

Just because they're religious and have arguments doesn't mean they're not friends otherwise.

[–]lumpydumdums 0 points1 point ago

"Friends who offer false consolation are false friends"

Christopher Hitchens

[–]gobberpooper 0 points1 point ago

I have a close friend is a born again Christian. When not talking about religion, we hang out all the time and have fun. We just keep our religious views to ourselves. It'd be the same as a disagreement on any other topic.

[–]zubie_wanders 0 points1 point ago

Come on, we all know there are two types of friends on facebook.

[–]PaddleFaster-BANJOS 0 points1 point ago

They aren't. So many of them are fake facebook conversation makers - that they then screen cap and post on reddit because they think it makes them look smart or gives them karma.

[–]Mosrhun 0 points1 point ago

Co-workers possibly as well. I ran into my first debate with a co-worker on facebook last night.

Good guy atheist: Takes a shit all over fundamentalist debate, doesn't screencap.

[–]lil_buddha 0 points1 point ago

Then you see the upvotes and realise that some friends are kept solely for karma farming.

[–]dt25 0 points1 point ago

For me, it's because unlike most religious people I don't discriminate based on their beliefs.

If they want to de-friend me, I won't bother, but for me to de-friend them just because they say something that annoys me, it would seem as if I wanted to live in my own small world, which I really don't.

[–]dr_haggz -1 points0 points ago

Because to "unfriend" people on facebook over their chosen religion or lack thereof is one step away from doing it based on sexual orientation, race, creed etc

[–]lumpydumdums 1 point2 points ago

But I'm free to be a racist (i'm not) and everyone I know is free to unfriend me on FB should they choose to for that reason alone. I actively choose to distance myself from people who would post shit like I see screencap'ed in r/atheism all of the time. Also...."sexual orientation, race, creed etc" are not necessarily choices people make. Spreading their messianic bile IS a choice. And a deal-breaker.

[–]watchesarecool42 0 points1 point ago

My guess is that maybe they're family or a next door neighbor that would never let you forget that you unfriended them.

[–]redzdevilz 0 points1 point ago

For the lulz?

[–]simjanes2k 0 points1 point ago

It must be nice to always agree about everything with all your friends.

You may notice when you start getting letter grades instead of gold stars, that changes a little.

[–]theshoelessone[S] 0 points1 point ago

Well, I think it's a little more immature to get in a Facebook argument then take screenshots of it and post it on Reddit, but that's just me.

[–]simjanes2k 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, who shares conversations with other people in a public forum, anyway? Especially when the source of the conversation was IN NO WAY taking place on the largest social network ever created.

[–]theshoelessone[S] 0 points1 point ago

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

I'm not saying that all of your friends should have the same opinions as you. What I am saying is that if you are "friends" with them, why would you start an argument with them then broadcast it on Reddit? That's not very friendly.

Also, if they regularly post things that piss you off, why not just unfriend them?

[–]simjanes2k 0 points1 point ago

My point is that some of us have friends with ridiculous and/or stupid things in their head, but we are still friends for all the the other parts that make them an individual.

To have a disagreement on Facebook, then share it with Reddit, doesn't seem unfriendly to me. It can make r/atheism a dull place, but hey, no one expects a barrage of philosophical paradigm shifts from it anyway. If you recorded a private discussion then played it for everyone at a wedding or at work, I could see it.

As for your last question: Similar to what I said before, sometimes agreeing on every issue is not the keystone of a friendship.

[–]coowhipp 0 points1 point ago

Yep, there is this thing called meeting new people.