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[–]anddup 35 points36 points ago

As soon as the gif started zooming out, the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers theme started playing in my head and I got really happy.

And then it looped too quickly over and over.

[–]Berwickmex 3 points4 points ago

I was thinking it was a recalled episode or something.

[–]shanoxilt 0 points1 point ago

[–]jagulto 51 points52 points ago

I'm sorry to correct you guys but this is how the war REALLY ended http://i.imgur.com/yjojs.jpg

[–]ElAvestruz 6 points7 points ago

And here he is, shitting himself.

[–]Lawbat 11 points12 points ago

Flame thrower on a chainsaw? GENUIS!

[–]GivenToFly 6 points7 points ago

Teach the controversy.

[–]Raplena14 116 points117 points ago

No, Russia and England had to fight it. America just watched the beginning, and came in towards the end.

[–]PhoneDojo 87 points88 points ago

BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPS

[–]sehrfine 15 points16 points ago

Still waiting for the three-peat.

[–]ronintetsuro -1 points0 points ago

That's gonna be awkward with the US being the bad guys this time.

[–]thejumbo 0 points1 point ago

Early?

[–]luketheduke03 1 point2 points ago

NOT 5, NOT 6, NOT 7...

[–]4chanscaresme 16 points17 points ago

In respect to the fallen Welsh and Scots this should be the UK or Great Britain, maybe even tag on the Commonwealth as those ANZACs and Canadians did themselves proud too.

[–]makeshifts 6 points7 points ago

No, Russia and Great Britain... not just England... There are three other counties in the UK and they all fought.

[–]floatablepie 2 points3 points ago

cough Canada Australia New Zealand cough

[–]Keightler 0 points1 point ago

The British Commonwealth... not just Great Britain...A quarter of the world fought for the allies in that war.

[–]Insideoutwards 7 points8 points ago

Kill stealer America.

[–]quitefunny[S] 15 points16 points ago

England and Russia were busy with cyborg-hitler.

[–]Rajio 6 points7 points ago

To be fair, it took a lot of powerups to defeat cyborg-hitler.

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[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 23 points24 points ago

The pacific theater was a different war with different causes. And beating up Japan was a given. Their generals knew it! The 2 countries were grossly mismatched.

Yamamoto, when once asked his opinion on the war, pessimistically said that the only way for Japan to win the war was to dictate terms in the White House (which would have required them to eventually invade the United States and march across the country, fighting their way to Washington — i.e. Japan would have had to conquer the whole of the United States). Yamamoto's meaning was that military victory, in a protracted war against an opponent with as much of a population and industrial advantage as the United States possessed, was completely impossible — a rebuff to those who thought that winning a major battle against the US Navy would end the war.

But political figures were convinced they needed to attack by economic factors. Japan went to war in Manchuria and China because of the closed markets there. In the Philippines, Indo-China, Borneo, Indonesia, Malaya, Burma, not only were Japanese activities forbidden, but even entry. After they invaded, the United States and the Netherlands cut off their oil supplies. This left them with 2 choices: retreat from china, or seize the oilfields of Asia from the western colonial powers. They felt backed into a corner, and attacked.

[–]Darth_Tard 3 points4 points ago

I agree with most of what you have here, but I just want add something. The Japanese admirals believed (reasonably so) that an attack on Pearl Harbor, where the vast, vast majority of the United States' Pacific fleet was located, could cripple the U.S.'s ability to fight in the Pacific. There were two reasons that while this excellent idea did not work.

  1. By chance, none of the U.S. aircraft carriers were there, which were the Japanese's primary targets. I don't recall where they were (I believe one was at the U.S. mainland getting supplied and two others were war gaming at some other location, not quite sure). Aircraft carriers are the foundation of any large war fleet, so this allowed the U.S. to retain power in the sea.

  2. Possibly even more important than #1: the Japanese did not attack the resupply and repair stations, the power station, headquarters building, or submarine docks. They damaged 18 warships in their attack, with near half of those being sunk. However, because the repair stations remained, 16 of these ships returned to the fight at full capacity.

In conclusion, this operation was unsuccessful because the Japanese failed to strike important targets, not because "defeating the U.S. was completely impossible."

[–]LOLSTRALIA -1 points0 points ago

puts on tin foil hat

The US was told on 3 different occasions about a Japanese fleet heading east. They knew they were coming.

[–]Darth_Tard 0 points1 point ago

And did nothing to prepare/warn Pearl Harbor. Thus near complete surprise was still achieved.

[–]Toiler_in_Darkness -2 points-1 points ago

Actually, I'd contend that the failure to destroy the fuel bunkers had a larger effect. If those had been destroyed then they could not have used that as a port to base ships out of.

But: even if they had completely destroyed the US Pacific fleet, including the aircraft carriers and captured or completely destroyed Pearl Harbor, they could still have not won the war. The incandescent rage of the american public would have allowed the government to keep the war going long enough to stamp them out.

And it was only a matter of time and will. The USA at that point in history simply had too much of a lead in production capacity and population to lose. They could have negotiated a peace treaty in Kyoto, if they had needed to invade japan to win. There was simply no hope of japan ever negotiating a peace treaty in Washington. Japan could never have hoped to invade the US mainland. It could have been a longer war, just as it could have been a shorter one, but the long term outcome was not in doubt.

[–]Darth_Tard 0 points1 point ago

When I mentioned resupply stations, I was including fuel, as well as other essential war materials. Sure, the U.S. had greater population and production potential, but if those structures had been destroyed, they wouldn't have meant a whole lot, at least for a period of time. Bringing new supplies to rebuild these stations and stock them with sufficient resources to bring back the U.S. fleet would have given the Japanese six months, maybe more, to seize the oilfields in Southeast Asia, primarily the Borneo and Indonesia area. This, combined with heavy war production in Japan (and factories in Korea and parts of China that they forced into service), would have given the Japanese ample resources to wage a war by sea. This six month time period would have also given the Japanese time to move these resources throughout the Pacific and fortify key installations such as the Marianas, the Marshall Islands, Midway, and the Solomon Islands in the Coral Sea. Luckily, we recovered quickly enough to prevent that from mattering.

Numbers are helpful, but they don't mean as much at sea as they do on land. If the Japanese had achieved the complete destruction of Pearl Harbor as intended, it's hard to determine whether the U.S. would have had the strength to go to war, regardless of will or want.

And the Japanese never intended to invade the American mainland. Acquisition of resources was their goal, and that would have just been silly.

[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 0 points1 point ago

The crux of my argument is that the united states could have built a an entirely new pacific fleet and armed it with nuclear weapons if they'd needed to. They had the industrial capacity and defensive depth to lose their whole pacific fleet and re-build it.

Of course, in war nothing is certain. The american leadership might have sent the new units at japan piecemeal and doomed them to defeat in detail. It was certainly possible for them to lose, but their advantages were so staggering that they'd really have needed to shoot themselves in the foot spectacularly and repeatedly to do so.

[–]Robbiethemute -1 points0 points ago

Britain was involved in the Pacific. Look up Operation Iceberg.

Britain are the only country who fought a world war. We fought in Western and Northern Europe, the deserts in Northern Africa, the Middle East, Africa, the Mediterranean, the Far East (including against Japan and China), in India, the rain forests in Burma and in the Arctic. We were the only country to fight from the start of the war till the end. Some might say we're the only country that lost the second world war.

[–]LOLSTRALIA 0 points1 point ago

This guy, forgetting about Australia.

The AIF was the first allied army to defeat the all three Axis powers in land warfare. Bardia against the Italians, Tobruk against the Afrika Korps and Milne Bay against the Japanese.

[–]Robbiethemute 0 points1 point ago

Forgive me, I'm not sure what you mean by I forgot Australia. Are you saying that the Aussies fought a truly world war or that they fought from start to finish? Or both?

[–]LOLSTRALIA 1 point2 points ago

Both. Australia fought on every continent. They joined the war 3 days after Britain.

Australian (and NZ) airmen made up parts of the RAF that fended off the Germans in the Battle of Britain. They fought in North Africa, South East Asia, Europe and Crete.

[–]Robbiethemute 0 points1 point ago

I stand corrected, I was not aware. I've never seen those movies haha.

[–]tackleberry61 4 points5 points ago

So its like when your little brother can't beat a level and asks you for help. I am ok with that.

[–]ValuableDan -4 points-3 points ago

Shouldn't America be the little brother? And as far as video games go, that's far more accurate, in my experience.

[–]napierw 2 points3 points ago

america being a typical attention whore

[–]Aspiring_Physicist 0 points1 point ago

Thank you! I came here to mention that there were a lot more countries fighting WWII than just America and most of them were part of it longer.

[–]Flawkes 1 point2 points ago

Canada helped too :'(

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[–]MrXBob 2 points3 points ago

What?

1939 to 1942 is "1 year, 5 months"? Seriously?

Please learn maths :)

[–]WololoRogan 1 point2 points ago

*1944 in Europe

[–]MtWashington 1 point2 points ago

*1943 in Europe.

[–]WatcherOfTheWatchmen -1 points0 points ago

I always thought American was sort of like this guy http://imgur.com/8IDif and then called themselves top shit.

[–]Chunga_the_Great 3 points4 points ago

In all fairness, that guy was pretty badass.

[–]PussyDoodles 7 points8 points ago

source?

[–]RMHX 23 points24 points ago

I believe it's Danger 5. All the episodes are on YouTube.

[–]Captain_d00m 3 points4 points ago

Why am I only just now hearing of this? This is awesome.

[–]Peregrine7 3 points4 points ago

It is indeed, good fellow.

[–]eatcrayons 1 point2 points ago

Oh shit, that's out already? UGH.

[–]NotReallyFromTheUK 0 points1 point ago

I just watched the episodes with the japanese robot soldiers, and the nazimech never appeared. Are you sure this is the right source?

[–]d4nRicks 0 points1 point ago

Yeah it definitely is, he pops up in this episode

[–]PussyDoodles -1 points0 points ago

ty ^

[–]samanthakm9 4 points5 points ago

As soon as I started watching this I thought it was Big Man Japan.

[–]eatcrayons 4 points5 points ago

Watched that movie last week. I have no idea what to think about anything now. The first monster haunts my dreams. The fight at the end is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[–]samanthakm9 0 points1 point ago

I love it. I had to buy it right after I watched it. And his dad. LOL

[–]JesusPlayingGolf 2 points3 points ago

I always have an upvote to give for anything Danger 5 related.

[–]elbruce 0 points1 point ago

Looks like something out of Kaiju Big Battel.

[–]Robot_Dinosaur 0 points1 point ago

Exactly what I thought, actually!

[–]4chanscaresme 2 points3 points ago

If you look at a map you'll be shocked to find Great Britain is not on the mainland. Take that up with the French, Dutch and Belgians.

[–]Xtianpro 0 points1 point ago

Correct, that was the final boss but that is not his final form.

[–]ColdWarRussia 1 point2 points ago

Actually Japan was the final boss. The Third Reich fell at the end of April 1945, whereas it took another 4 months and two atomic weapons to finally win the game.

[–]nusmesa 7 points8 points ago

Americas's role in the European war was of little importance. By the time D-day came Hitler lost 90% of his troops and tanks trying to invade Russia.

Check Eastern Front and Western Front of the War. America probably had a lot more trouble with the Japanesse in the Pacific. And it lasted longer. So yea... final boss would be a Jap!

[–]notcoolbrooo 12 points13 points ago

90%? Where are you getting that figure, if I may ask?

But I agree, the Island hopping campaign lasted a good bit longer for obvious reasons... Would be more accurate if OP found a GIF of mecha-godzlla knocking corsairs out of the sky.

[–]nusmesa 0 points1 point ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

$50.1 billion of which $31.4 billion to Britain. Not 90% but still a very big chunk.

[–]3DRauko 4 points5 points ago

I'm confused... according to that link the US gave the European Allies $50.1 billion dollars. The article is slightly out of date, but that is still like $703 billion of today's dollars. On money alone I'd say the US had a significant influence before they launched a single plane or ship to aid in the war effort. And the difference between 63% and 90% is notable.

[–]hbomberman 1 point2 points ago

In a war that did not directly effect the US (yet, except for U-Boats), whose civilians were largely against going to war.

I have mixed feelings about it because earlier US involvement could have probably ended the war--and the atrocities--earlier but I still see the reasoning behind what the US did.

[–]nusmesa -4 points-3 points ago

... The amount of money doesn't really matter. Hitler and Stalin both lost millions on the eastern front. Stalin sent men after men after men. The war was lost for Germany there, where it lost almost it's entire army. The amount of money the US sent is insignificant. Moreover since 63% as you say was sent to britain.

4,300,000 Germans died on the Eastern Front. + Another million others on the Axis side.

10,651,000 Russians Dead and another 5,280,000 taken prisoner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)

[–]3DRauko 4 points5 points ago

Have you seen what happens to an army that fights a war on empty pockets? No guns, no food, no fuel, no medical supplies. $50billion dollars in the 1940s could go a very, very long way in saving lives and giving armies the means to slow an advancing army. And I'm sure the $11billion sent to Russia by the US ($155billion adjusted for inflation) plus all millions of tons of supplies did little to help supply those troops. This isn't me showing how the US won the war, but the supply train from the US to the Allies was certainly valuable. If you want directly compare dollars to lives then things gets us all into muddy waters and is something that I don't want to do.

[–]Ze_Carioca 2 points3 points ago

What bothers me is everyone forgets the US bombing campaign too.

THe US, and the UK to a lesser extent, where bombing the shit out of Germany which was greatly hindering their ability to wage in war, in addition to supplying the USSR.

[–]Arab81253 0 points1 point ago

You have to consider how many fronts the Germans were fighting on. Africa, Italy, and at the end western Europe. Had the Nazis been able to focus their attention solely on the eastern front it would more than likely have turned out as a loss still, but with much bloodier results.

Everyone is arguing about who had the greater role when it's all bullshit. If the UK, Russia, the US, Australia or any of the other countries involved in the war hadn't participated it would have been a much different story.

[–]nusmesa 0 points1 point ago

Open to debate.

I think the crucial mistake that Hitler made was invading Russia. A pact with Stalin to share Eastern Europe would have been more favourable. Then Hitler could have easily taken rest of EU.

[–]Arab81253 1 point2 points ago

True, it's hard to debate anything with history. There are way too many variables with it.

I will say that it took an incredible amount of resources for Hitler to keep all fronts open like he did. If all of that was directed at Russia they wouldn't have been able to maintain their 10 dead Russians for every dead Nazi ratio very long.

I also don't think that Hitler's or Stalin's personalities would have allowed for them to share Eastern Europe for very long. They would have eventually clashed at some point.

[–]angryxpeh 0 points1 point ago

Yes, because land-lease didn't exist.

About 20% of Red/Soviet Army aircraft were in fact American-built. Majority of steam locomotives was American too (because locomotive manufacturing plants were mostly in Ukraine and Western Russia, so they were under occupation, most of equipment was dismounted and sent to Siberia). About 2/3 of Soviet Army trucks were built in USA.

[–]Jisaw 1 point2 points ago

It was of little importance in stopping Hitler, but massively important in keeping the Iron Curtain as far east as possibly.

[–]Diogenes_DeadGod 2 points3 points ago

False. The Nazis surrendered before the Japanese

[–]Ze_Carioca 0 points1 point ago

Japan was a bonus mission at the end where you drop a nuke on them.

[–]ethanwc 0 points1 point ago

Nuke. Atomic. Same thing.

[–]DaveFishBulb 0 points1 point ago

That's right.

[–]krataar1 0 points1 point ago

I feel like we fought an entirely different boss on the otherside of the world.

[–]Reaper505 1 point2 points ago

that was mechagodzilla

[–]Ruled_by_Kush 0 points1 point ago

We forgetting about Japan? Japan surrendered 3 months after Germany.

[–]mch2opolo11 0 points1 point ago

Grooveeeey

[–]atlusblue 0 points1 point ago

we needed to form the allies megazord to fight it.

[–]czarchastic 0 points1 point ago

Now I'm not saying OP hates the jews, but has he ever even killed a nazi before?

[–]TheAmishSpaceCadet 0 points1 point ago

Come on guys!! You seriously don't like my German Power Ranger outfit? I was gonna wear it to COMI-CON.

[–]Cafuzzler 0 points1 point ago

America used hacked-in OP weapons, Shameful Dispray!

[–]Ivan_Of_Delta 0 points1 point ago

Good ol' accurate Japanese history lessons

[–]duchey 0 points1 point ago

Repost from a while ago

[–]makoivis 0 points1 point ago

Looks like the source for this is the australian camp TV series "Danger 5".

The series is great fun and highly recommended.

[–]Consideredresponse 1 point2 points ago

How can any show which features a fat magic hitler as a regular cast member be considered camp, I ask you?

[–]makoivis 0 points1 point ago

How can it not?

[–]Consideredresponse 1 point2 points ago

I like to see any actor getting regular work, but imagine having to tell your family that you get to play fat, magical Hitler?

[–]makoivis 0 points1 point ago

It's the director's dad so that helps. Only adds to the camp appeal, doesn't it?

[–]Consideredresponse 0 points1 point ago

Oh, I didn't know that. That must have avoided one of the more interesting casting calls in history.

[–]Serge3444 1 point2 points ago

all i could think of was original power rangers.

[–]Blaguet 1 point2 points ago

Flame thrower chainsaw. Enough said.

[–]tunyfish -1 points0 points ago

Boss?

[–]Rekel 0 points1 point ago

[–]Thefuckingboss 0 points1 point ago

False It was actully a power rangers episode lol

[–]casonthemason 0 points1 point ago

Maybe according to the History Channel these past few years

[–]shotty_t -1 points0 points ago

I did Nazi that coming....

I'll crawl back in my whole now....

[–]Shartle 0 points1 point ago

Righteous.

[–]Douchebox 0 points1 point ago

Well if it was anything like the chainsaw fights from RE4, dude was all bark and no bite. Incendiary grenade and then a shotgun blast to the head...the fuck you gonna do about it chainsaw guy?

[–]nintendofreak44 0 points1 point ago

[–]modernartisan 0 points1 point ago

not sure if trying to cut something down, or light it on fire.

[–]smeck9 1 point2 points ago

False. Japan

[–]JetBlackNinja -1 points0 points ago

This is the final boss RUSSIA had to fight - FTFY.

[–]MoshingLiam 1 point2 points ago

As a German citizen with a degree in American-final-bosses and nahtzee history, I can confirm this.

[–]grokthol 1 point2 points ago

and only America, not anyone else.

[–]angryfinger -2 points-1 points ago

Way more likely that Russia fought him while the Americans and British sat back and let them.

[–]Serge3444 3 points4 points ago

more like russia was poor as shit and sent unarmed men at german machine guns, while the americans and british had a strategy that didnt involve getting 35 million of their soldiers killed.

yeah they defended stalingrad, they took berlin, but we made the largest naval landing in world history, liberated country after country, AND took japan, which was NOT an easy task in comparrison.

[–]Chunga_the_Great 0 points1 point ago

More like Russia just didn't give a shit about its soldiers and used strategies that utilized their strength in numbers. They may have lost 8.7 million soldiers (I don't know where you got 35 from), but they did far more on the Eastern Front than the Western Allies ever did on the Western Front, Italian Front, and North Africa.

[–]Serge3444 -2 points-1 points ago

gee... i guess comming into a war 2/3rds the way through it might cause a slight slant in efforts. WHODATHUNKIT

[–]Chunga_the_Great 0 points1 point ago

Where the hell did you get 2/3rds from? Do a little reading, because whatever taught you about WWII was wrong as shit.

[–]Serge3444 -2 points-1 points ago

war started 1939, US enters WW2 in 1943, WW2 ends in 1945.

war spanned roughly 6 years from official start to official end. The us participated in 2 years of the war, making that 2/3rds through the war.

i think you need to go back and read your history sir.

[–]Chunga_the_Great 1 point2 points ago

The U.S declared war in December of 1941. Lend-lease was signed into law in March of 1941. Operation Torch (The U.S' first major land involvment in the European Theater) occured in November 1942.

Seriously, where the hell are you getting your info from?

[–]Serge3444 -1 points0 points ago

the googles. O.o didnt even consider north africa... interesting, wonder why nothing cited this operation or anything before 43.

[–]Chunga_the_Great 1 point2 points ago

It's often overlooked since Vichy French troops in the area didn't really put up much of a fight, even though the operation itself was vital to victory in North Africa.

[–]Serge3444 -1 points0 points ago

lol go figure the US spanks the french and then doesnt even record it as an effort.

[–]Serge3444 -1 points0 points ago

also, correcting my figures, it wasnt 35million is was 26.6 million lost by the russians, in comparison to like the 1.5 million by US and british forces. was not a good few years to be a russian.

[–]angryxpeh 0 points1 point ago

TIL Pear Harbor was attacked in 1943.

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[–]CareForceOne 2 points3 points ago

Someone is keen for karma

[–]petemann -1 points0 points ago

Do Americans truly believe they single handily defeated Nazism and saved the world?

[–]Chunga_the_Great 1 point2 points ago

Only the stupid ones. But then again, this entire thread appears to be a Brit circlejerk. Nobody seems to remember the Soviets.