My gay friend's response to Chick-fil-a "Appreciation Day" (FB post)

Pamander · 1 month

http://www.owldolatrous.com/?p=288 It's a long ass read but it perfectly sums it all up and i HIGHLY suggest reading it. <3

799646 · 1 month

So I'm thinking Chick-Fil-A flashmob where everyone's goes into their restaurant and suddenly rips off trench coats to reveal rainbow/spandex for an orange mocha frappaccino fight

Elephant_on_Stilts · 1 month

As a straight man this post chills me to the bone. I'm very aware of the hot issue of gay rights but never in my life has it been more humanized than in this post. I've always seen it as a heated argument, here we can see its more than that. It makes me ashamed to say i'm on the same side of the line as the straight people who are buying their way into heaven 1500 calories at a time. Being able to see the absolute terror of being persecuted for harming no one and doing nothing wrong speaks loudly.

I'm straight and i'm middle class, I'm and atheist, and a democrat, I'm tech saavy and 29, im not married and have no kids but I'm in a very commited relationship, I believe in pro-choice and I support gay rights. I'm part of a group of people who are in the middle, who are never really intimidated, and I can honestly say that there is nothing that scares me more than being lumped in the same group of people as those that make good people like this man feel this way. The thought that I am intimidating simply because i'm straight makes me feel like a lesser person.

tldr; as a straight man who supports your rights, I am so, so sorry for the way people with my sexual orientation treat you. As a human race we should all be better than this...

jellopez · 1 month

thank your friend for these words. i was having trouble articulating how it made me feel but this says it perfectly.

byuu · 1 month

For me it was Prop 8. I live in Ohio, but realizing that not even (arguably) the most progressive state in the nation could uphold such a basic fairness really just destroyed me inside.

Hard to describe, felt like a 50lb weight inside my chest. Lasted a good week or two. Wasn't even just the marriage issue, but just the complete loss of faith in democracy and human compassion.

(My partner and I were never big on involving government in our lives, but we went and got married in Connecticut after that.)

But one thing about these experiences is that you quickly build a tolerance. I saw the CFA crowd here yesterday ... didn't surprise me at all, it was only a minor annoyance in that they were blocking traffic.

Autumnrayne84 · 1 month

I really want to shake his fucking hand. It's reasons like with the Chick-fil-a thing that good people kill themselves... Shame, fear, and self doubt. Your friend says "Fuck You" to adversity... A hero among pretty men.

Untergangsbeobachter · 1 month

They are closed-minded idiots. Remember that the other half of the country (at least) supports gay marriage, and this percentage is going to rise as the bigots die.

Itstheway1 · 1 month

I was raised in Orange County California and I was so shocked to find out how many of the people I grew up with are against same-gender marriage. I mean, it makes sense. Orange County is really conservative as a whole. Still, I never thought people actually cared about what other people do with their lives. I mean... From what I understand, republicans only care about their money. They don't want higher taxes because... Well, fuck anyone who can't support themselves. I know this is hardly what a republican is, but it always made sense to me. To see so many people saying on FB to go to CFA and support the cause made me wonder why NOW they care about what other people do. I don't have hate for anti-gay believers. In the end, I truly believe they will know they were wrong. I respect their choice, but what I don't understand is why the life of others in on their mind. If... Let's say, they believe it's a sin, then fuck it. Why would they care if another woman or man goes to hell for their sins. I mean... I know I don't want to hang out in heaven with a bunch of bigots. I'm not gay, but I'd rather enjoy the thoughts of many over the one single idea that many people have. As a first generation Mexican adult in this country, I know I wouldn't like my "group" of people discriminated against or have organization against my people funded by large companies. I'd say gay/lesbian community you have my support, but I don't even like the sound of that. So I'll say this, my friends... You have my support and I'd hug any of you for 24 hours in support of any equal rights cause.

bearsinthesea · 1 month

Gays could change all this, and it confuses me that they don't. About 10% of the population is gay, yes? And many elections are decided on thin margins with few voters. If every gay person voted, it would change govt at every level.

And yet I know a gay man that is strongly republican. He also can't afford health care, but hates the new health care laws.

Now I know that being gay doesn't have to be the defining trait of a person. But if politicians were making laws targeting me, I'd vote against them.

Levy_Wilson · 1 month

You know what the most ironic thing in the world is about these "Christians"? If they really did read and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, then they would not be trying to restrict the rights of others. They would not be attacking others on their sexual orientation. They would be real Christians and let people be as they are and they won't be filled with hate. Do these delusional people really think Jesus would give two shits if two men or two women love each other when there are people dying of starvation in more than half of the world and people are killing each other for political gain left and right in the Middle East and Africa? If these people had thinking minds of their own, they would get their fucking priorities straight. That's a big IF, though.

These people aren't Christian's protecting "Christian Ideals". They are bigoted homophobes and nothing more.

Grizdango · 1 month

Just go there and cause a scene about how they should "go after the niggers again next", get it on TV. Might wake some people up.

jheregpip · 1 month

Only in 'Murica is a pilgrimage taken by car and ends at a fast food restaurant.

iRun800 · 1 month

That was awesome. YOU GO GLEN COCO!

emiffer321 · 1 month

Tell your friend that instead of going out to eat at Chick-fil-a, I donated $20 to the Trevor project. I think he will find the majority supports him and his right to get married. You can't please everyone.

jpurdy · 1 month

This is the fundamentalist political organization that Dan Cathy supports - http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council

epicsaxophone · 1 month

It truly makes me sad to see that stuff like this still exists in America. Why do people hate gay people so much? Why do Christians continue to use the bible to justify discrimination against gays? Why are they so narrow minded?

Sorry for my rant. It's such a shame that gays will probably not have have equal rights (for a long time) because of close-mined people.

Liberteez · 1 month

She's conflating support of tradtional marriage and/or free speech/rejectiion of thuggish speech shut-down with people viewing her as "lesser". As an individual she has the same worth and dignity and rights as anyone.

If marriage as it has always been is obsolete, make the case- but there is a case for not knocking it off its moorings, and treating the importance of what opposite pairs do naturaly as no different than what same sex couples do. It is different and managing the one with law has different importance than the latter.

There are exactly zero people in the US who can decide to marry any person. And no one is barred from marrying an unrelated, competent, consenting adult of opposite sex, so long as no fraud is committed. I submit to you that Many people who are attracted to the same sex have married, had kids, and loved their spouses and built lives with them.

Changing the definition of marriage removes connection to the only reason it exists in the first place. It isn't a connection of two souls before the world assembled. It's a legal contract between man and woman and state that is supposed to limit the adverse consequences of the natural results of human procreation, while advancing advantages to all parties and any issue produced by the union.

If these reasons are now obsolete, "we can control fertility, tests reveal paternity, procreation no longer needs intensive control" make the case. But that's the case you have to make, not that your love is as worthy or deep or long lasting. Of course it is.

[deleted] · 1 month

I just hope everyone recognizes that the restaurant's views (?? didn't realize companies had or should have personal views on social issues, but whatever) and support for the restaurant are free speech,

Equal and as free as any other free speech

like boycotting and chastising the restaurant, condemning their views.

This is actually a pretty opportune situation to sit back and observe the division on the social issue

But point being, both sides are equally free to express themselves in these ways. I encourage a boycott.

upvotemeorurracist · 1 month

Imagine a world in which homosexuals are prideful of being themselves no matter what others think! <3

noveltyimitator · 1 month

Am I the only one who thinks this Chick-Fil-A thing is blown out of proportions?

It's not even the stance on sexual orientation of a fast food chain, but the sexual orientation stance of the owner of a fast food chain, that happens to have made his view public, and both conservatives and liberals on this issue went berserk.

I don't understand how much more polarized America can be. We happen to be in a recession, with a worsening case of oligarchy in our government, and a developing conflict in the Midddle East. And we chose to celebrate civic rights by eating/not eating fast food chicken.

Posterity will look upon us and laugh.

TChuff · 1 month

I wonder how he feels today knowing that Chik Fil A sponsors and builds foster homes for children. Supporting Chik Fil A supports good...no great causes.

Svx_blue · 1 month

I've been watching for days, with immense sadness welling up within me as hour after hour friends and family whom I have deep love for chime in on Facebook with blatant hate and disregard for humanity. All the while they hide behind the guise of their religion. (I'll leave it up to those who read this to guess which one.)

I'm not gay, but I'm an atheist and I now know that my friends and family look down on both groups with equal disdain. And that they consider both groups getting married to be offensive.

What is causing the sadness is the fact that no matter what adversity that I face as an atheist - it is nothing compared to what the L.G.B.T. community has/is/will gone/going/go through and there is nothing that I can do about it that would be particularly effective.

There is no other time do I feel like the speck of dust in the universe that I am as when I see how oppressed a people are and I know that all I can do as an individual is pledge my support to them.

samzayvan · 1 month

the difference is you can fuck a guy in the ass every day and be fine.

But if you ate Chick Fil A every day you'd die of a heart attack in a year's time.

so gay's win

Squalor- · 1 month

Your ~~gay~~ friend seems very level headed.

ezmobee_work · 1 month

This makes me sad.

jad316 · 1 month

As a christian let me say, they are wrong. Not for the stance of standing for what they believe but because the only knowledge they have of christianity is what they hear from friends and family. Most Christians don't really read the bible. They just do as they are told.

NikKnack · 1 month

I think your gay friend should consider that a lot of the people there had ZERO idea about what's going on politically, or don't care, and just like really good chicken.

Not everyone's life revolves around political issues. Things aren't as gloomy as he thinks.

irrationalsapien · 1 month

Man, my conservative coworker came in the other day, and said I'll buy you lunch at chick-fil-a. I thought to myself, "OK, I am pro-gay marriage and pro-equal rights generally. However, I am also pro-free-sandwich. Not to mention, I heard this company treats their employees really well, so fuck it, I'll go."

I then took the trip to chick-fil-a with her. I literally felt dirty. All these sweet old ladies were there to support the place. This guy with a "don't tread on me' t-shirt was taking pictures of everyone standing in line. (which thankfully I avoided). The place was packed.

I kept thinking, that it was absolutely ridiculous that this many people were anti-gay marriage and they were going to show it by going to a fast food chicken place because the CEO was anti-gay marriage. Then, I got back and discovered the company had funneled all this money to anti-gay groups... and I literally felt a little sick.

Fortunately, I didn't directly give any money to the place and the chicken sandwich wasn't good enough for me to throw away my values and willfully wallow in the throes of chicken addiction.

lepuma · 1 month

I would totally "like" his comment.

austinmo2 · 1 month

I posted something similar on my Facebook. You know hatred and ignorance is there, but to see it displayed on this massive scale, it unexpectedly hurts a lot. All the mean comments on Facebook and reading about the hateful things people were saying to employees about gays makes me really sad and angry. I feel bad for the employees, many of them young, some of them gay. This will be very traumatic for them.

Equal rights has been made part of the election. It has been added to the democratic platform. This kind of vitriol is why it has not been part of the platform before. I have to give credit to the democrats and the president for taking this on and not kicking the can down the road again.

I also have to credit Mayor Gavin Newsom who had a big hand in getting the ball rolling in 2004. I think we can expect a lot more backlash throughout the election.I'm gonna need some thicker skin to make it through all this.

The scale and the openness of the hatred has gotten to me. and seeing a family member and a family friend show support for chik-fil-a. That hurt a lot.

srathek · 1 month

Some people who are supporting Chick-fil-a do it for their right to express free speech, and they support that, but view homosexuals as equivalent human beings.

TheShadyCat · 1 month

As a heterosexual European, with all this Chick-fill-a stuff going around, i must say: i'd rather eat a dick than a sandwich there. Anyone else feel the same?

anjewthebearjew · 1 month

Guess what though? If the LGBT movement hadn't pushed so hard against chik-fil-a this would've never happened. You did it to yourself, check that shit out.

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PTstripper_i_do_hair · 1 month

It still astonishes me that this shit is taking place in the supposedly most free country in the world. To quote Bill Hicks, I wish my parents had've fucked in Europe.

CGord · 1 month

Please convey my best wishes to your friend.

chmilz · 1 month

Gays and gay supporters need to start going into Chick-Fil-A in massive numbers and ordering the cheapest thing on the menu, then sit around loudly talking about crazy homosexual things in loud voices. I mean, seriously take that shit over. Company is profiting regardless, may as well make them feel awkward about it and drive their bigot customers underground.

Mitsuji · 1 month

I can't believe all the people going to Chick-Fil-A. The one near me still has a full parking lot and drive through. I don't understand why one man's opinion on institutionalized marriage is such a big deal and I think that's why there's been this big backlash. I support his right to have an opinion on marriage and it has nothing to do with hating homosexuals, but allowing people to be human and having their own little opinions. Who is this man? Why do we give this man so much power? Do you think there aren't other people in the world of business with this political opinion? There could be a hundred other companies with founders or CEOs who don't support gay marriage and we're not protesting them. It just so happens someone got a hold of his opinion and had a total freak out and now it's this big, exaggerated gay hate.

I'm bisexual and I don't take this to be an attack on me. People's political opinions on marriage don't offend me all that much, but then I think the marriage license did have it's roots in a sexist and religious culture as its original purpose was to determine the rights of the woman in the marriage. I think government marriage should be done away with and I wouldn't submit myself to a legal marriage anyway (so maybe I don't get the point.) Whatever help and breaks the government gives married people ought to go to people who really need it like single parents.

I'm sorry this is challenging some gay people's confidence, but, again, I don't think this should be taken as homophobic movement. People are getting fed up with politics and people overreacting. If there hadn't been this huge overreaction to the founder's comments there'd be no backlash, no one would've even heard about it and no one would care.

ReverendHerby · 1 month

Well, Chick-fil-a customers, enjoy celebrating how not-gay you are by gathering together to fill your mouths with cock-sandwiches.

WingedNinja · 1 month

Like his status for me, please?

Byeka · 1 month

My thoughts regarding this piss poor form of "appreciation day". Retweet anyone? https://twitter.com/jholowka/status/231117355122569216

[deleted] · 1 month

pro-life? apparently not when it comes to poultry that's caged its entire life.

whitestboyalive00 · 1 month

2joker1 · 1 month

i'm gay and...dammit. i need a minute

woodchuck64 · 1 month

Heartfelt sympathies to your friend: take courage in the fact that many more in America support you than do not.

Chick-fil-A demonstrates the smallest of small American minds, ignorant of nuanced issues, devoid of empathy for anyone not white, Christian and straight, and living lives of self-imposed fear and misery.

verit4s · 1 month

I suspect the root of the problem is that chick-fil-a is too delicious. Buying fried chicken is a convenient way to prove your strong convictions to the world...

ussr577 · 1 month

At my local Chic-fil-a there was a gathering. 3 homosexuals were injured in a riot. This is not a religion of love! This is a sick cult solemnly based on hate!

palalab · 1 month

Would you deliver a simple message to your friend please?

There are more of "us" (gay marriage supporters as well as gays) than there are of "them," we just don't usually squawk as loud. There is a whole huge network of people who are down for the cause and who would do much to support the cause of your friend, and all gays.

stuckinscandi · 1 month

Sucks to be him, I don't buy his facade though, doubt he'll feel better tomorrow

youthoughtiwasdead · 1 month

...and all you dumb fucks who snorted all that chikin are gonna be half a pound FATTER.

Krohn744 · 1 month

As an atheist and having no serious issues with homosexuality, I have a serious issue with people attacking Chick-Fil-A. Since when are we surprised that Christians do not believe in gay marriage. Since when is it ok to attack a religion. Homosexuals complain about freedom and now they are attacking a religion..Hypocrits much.... Chick-Fil-A didn't refuse to serve gays, one of their founders expressed his beliefs when asked. Move on gay community, you are only hurting yourself by trying to attack religious views.

Gmoney613 · 1 month

BUT!! just hear me out..... what if he woke up the next day, and was no longer gay? WHAT IF PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

orion12 · 1 month

Don't mind me, just cutting onions here...

TabesL · 1 month

As a guy who spent 24 years repressing my sexuality, is currently in the process of coming out, lives in Oklahoma and who used to love Chick-fil-a...I gotta say it did suck hearing about the wait times at every Chick-fil-a yesterday. On top of all that, my coworkers couldn't stop talking about it today. I now hate Chick-fil-a. But its not gonna change what I'm doing or what I've learned about myself.

fegd · 1 month

Yea, like those people care about your friend and his issues.

MrImmoli · 1 month

I just thought of something. Most likely there is some kid out there still in the closet whose parents decided "Hey, lets eat at Chik-Fil-A today."

I cannot imagine how that would feel.

itsamericasfault · 1 month

Your gay friend it taking it too personally. Keep in mind that Chick-fil-a sandwiches are really good.

rowens72 · 1 month

Over-sensitive gay ppl and over-zealous Christians...

ianhewtt · 1 month

Sweet dude

Mist29 · 1 month

I feel like the point of this Chick-fil-a protest was lost on a lot of people. For 90% of people I know, it was an exercise in the freedom of speech, carried out because of the violent reaction to the business' statement

bunnysuitman · 1 month

I'm sorry for your friend but the reality is very clear...they have chicken.

The_Real_Muffin_Man · 1 month

Okay, This is it. I could make a post about this but I'm just going to do it here. I'm going to get downvotes like crazy for this but it has to be said. This whole Chic-fi-la hates gays crap is getting way out of hand. Quite frankly it's just ignorant.

"We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that." THAT IS ALL HE SAID. Do you see anywhere in that statement that he hates gay people? Do You see anywhere in that statement that he discriminates against them? He didn't even state that he opposes it! Of course he does, however. But there is nothing even remotely wrong with that. It's simply one man's opinion, the key word being OPINION. The man is entitled to his own opinion right? Or at least I thought he was until he was attacked by every single gay activist in the country. I'm appalled at how they are treating the situation. Claiming that he "hates" gay people. Any true Christian knows that hate is a sin. Christians are called to love. Christians can love gay people believe it or not. In fact, it's what the Bible calls them to do. Has Chic-fi-la closed the doors to gay people? Are they no longer allowing them to eat there? Of course not! They want them there! When it comes down to it, Chic-fi-la is a fast food restaurant. PERIOD. Who gives a crap what their opinions are on gay marriage?

So one CEO opposes it? Do you really think all the gay people are out there going "Well darn, if chic-fi-la opposes gay marriage then I guess I can't be happy with the person I love and marry them." Of course they aren't because that would be stupid. But they're treating it like that is the case anyway. And it's stupid. IT's a fast food restaurant for crying out loud! So I guess I should go up to every single place I do business at and ask them their opinions on issues that don't even matter. I could care less what McDonald's or Wendy's thinks about gay marriage, or abortion, or who should win the Superbowl. None of the stuff matters to me, and it shouldn't matter to anyone else. All that matters is that they make quality products at reasonable prices. That is it. Whether you agree with me or not, I just really had to get this out of my system.

And as a side note: People, gay or not, shouldn't be surprised by Chic-fi-la's stance on this issue at all. They are a very Christian company who have based their company on Biblical principles since day one. They aren't even open on Sundays for crying out loud! People shouldn't have been surprised by this at all.

rmc330 · 1 month

Why are all these chick-fil-a posts in atheism? you fuckin morons

BreadyMurphy · 1 month

As a vegetarian atheist liberal who strongly supports gays rights I have an unsurprisingly negative opinion about chik-fill-a.

The_New_Usual · 1 month

I got downvoted in another thread for admonishing people who were proud of eating chic-fil-a. It's pathetic that people can't give up something as simple as a chicken sandwich from ONE restaurant.

SexualTerrorist · 1 month

Since when was this r/faggot? I'm an atheist and I hate queers, they're just disgusting. If you're straight and so obsessed about "gay rights", you must be a closet faggot yourself.


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