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[–]INGWR 105 points106 points ago

[–]DrBrian 61 points62 points ago

it'd work a lot better if they had taken the color out of the eye sockets, too.

[–]partyonmybloc 111 points112 points ago

[–]DecafBiscotti 11 points12 points ago

Aaaand, I have a new desktop. Gracias.

[–]kiljaro 102 points103 points ago

[–]Steve138 292 points293 points ago

I still think those clown masks are badass. Where did this come from?

[–]Program_These 218 points219 points ago

This is the inspiration. The Joker wore it one episode in the Original Batman series with Adam West.

[–]Negative__One 71 points72 points ago

Creepy as fuck.

[–]ElwoodDowd 17 points18 points ago

There was rumor that it was originally based off of the creepy clown mask in Kubric's 1956 film, The Killing.

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 99 points100 points ago

I believe it's from the Making of the Dark Knight Trilogy book. It's an in depth look at the making of Nolan's trilogy, with a lot of rare pictures.

[–]grandmadeath101 64 points65 points ago

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 39 points40 points ago

Yep! Heard there are some cool pictures in there. Alternate designs for Bane's mask, other behind the scenes photo and info.

[–]sydbarrett473 76 points77 points ago

The authors of that book are gonna make bank tonight.

[–]hinduguru 17 points18 points ago

Hell yeah. Was this not advertised well?

[–]Bama011 5 points6 points ago

I dont know, this is the first ive heard of it though.

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[–]Shut_Up_Dude 7 points8 points ago

Dear Future Me,

Look at this.

Thanks, Past Me

[–]Arrca9 2 points3 points ago

Here's an orangered reminder for ya.

[–]NarcissisticHedonism 18 points19 points ago

This might be a stretch, but can anyone find content of Heath speaking on Jokers voice, but without makeup? I figure this is probably an impossible find, but if someone does. I'll be forever grateful!

[–]midtoke 86 points87 points ago

I have heard he gained inspiration for the voice from tom waits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRbhBXPgKk&t=100s

not actually Heath, but the similarity in the voice is uncanny

[–]NarcissisticHedonism 33 points34 points ago

Holy fuck. You're gold. This is exactly what i was looking for. They sound SO similar. If you listen to the video without the video content you can't even tell it's not Heath Ledger/ Joker.

[–]midtoke 11 points12 points ago

Yeah, crazy eh? I listened to Tom Waits before I watched The Dark Knight, but I had never heard his speaking voice. I almost shit my pants the first time I listened to this interview. Even the creepy mannerism with which he delivers the words was imitated so well.

[–]NarcissisticHedonism 9 points10 points ago

Yea, Tom has that awkward, weird Joker vibe in his voice and attitude. This makes me feel like watching the movie again. Thanks midtoke, exam studying down the drain.

[–]midtoke 2 points3 points ago

Tom has that attitude in his lyrics as well.

http://www.tomwaits.com/songs/song/282/Little_Drop_Of_Poison/

The first and fifth stanza each reek Joker.

My bad haha, at least we both know you'll enjoy yourself regardless!

[–]amanda_trendell 2 points3 points ago

I like how Heath would make those smacking sounds occasionally as he talked. I realized that maybe what he was doing was feeling the insides of his scars with his tongue, the way I do whenever I get a cut inside my mouth. But, of course, since it was make-up, there were no actual insides to his scars. It was just a nice touch that Heath came up with.

[–]Propa_Tingz 8 points9 points ago

[–]safe_plagiarism 23 points24 points ago

Wait... If that book was mass produced, how exactly are these photos rare?

[–]thefatalepic 24 points25 points ago

Were rare.

[–]MillardFillmore13 11 points12 points ago

How is this photo rare if it is in a book that is already released, and it is on the interwebs?

[–]mi0j 15 points16 points ago

Maybe OP is stating that behind the scenes photos of Heath were rare. Meaning that there are not many photos of him.

[–]hyperdub5 4 points5 points ago

Are the pictures really rare now that they're plastered on the internet?

[–]hypersleepwalk 49 points50 points ago

Looks like some inspiration for it came from Stanley Kubrick's flick The Killing.

http://i.imgur.com/MZeot.jpg

[–]JakeCameraAction 21 points22 points ago

It's based on that and Pagliacci.

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 472 points473 points ago

[–]qasman 300 points301 points ago

I love the first one. From what I can see, the make up is pretty much on, but he doesn't look anything like The Joker because of his neutral facial expression. Really made me think on how much of a difference that makes.

[–]RelevantSpongebobGIF 85 points86 points ago

also, truth be told, it doesn't look like he has any of the prosthetics on. Maybe they didn't bother putting it on for that scene because he wears a mask anyway. Or maybe this is BEFORE they put it on.

Either way, The Joker looks almost nothing like Ledger. Mostly because of his incredible acting skills, but partly because they used really really advanced prosthetics. It's most visible in the nose, which I don't think is quite so straight on the Joker. Might be wrong, though.

EDIT: here's more to read up on about The Joker's prosthetics. It was really advanced at the time.#Design)

EDIT: oh shit forgot the GIF! Basically, prosthetics make people look different

[–]Max_bleu 87 points88 points ago

He amazes me everytime I watch this movie. All the seemingly little things like licking his lips and the way he cocks his head really make the character.

[–]aphexcoil 56 points57 points ago

He really projects "Batshit" insane well.

[–]Chillaxbro 17 points18 points ago

[–]fotzenwasser 21 points22 points ago

why is there a drill attached to the screen in the 2. pic?

[–]ArsenalOwl 49 points50 points ago

It's not a drill, it just happens to be using a similar battery pack.

[–]DJErikD 18 points19 points ago

it's a DeWalt cordless pivoting-head flashlight modified to power the screen and wireless receiver.

http://dewalt.com/tools/cordless-lighting-flashlights-dw906.aspx

[–]wolfgame 16 points17 points ago

That monitor's attached to a monster steadycam rig big ass dolly. Some operators will set up their rigs with ryobi batteries the battery packs from their drills because they're easy to jury rig for other purposes, such as driving a monitor, they're cheap, they're 18v, and if they go dead, swapping them out doesn't take much work.

Edit: Yes, I know it's a dewalt.

Edit 2: Not a steadycam rig ... added link to the dolly in question.

[–]DJErikD 36 points37 points ago

That's no steadicam, that's a Fisher dolly with a Dewalt battery + monitor attached with a Cardellini clamp.

[–]ComradeRobbins 6 points7 points ago

This needs more upvotes. That's not a Steadicam rig at all.

EDIT: To clarify, DJErikD is correct. That is indeed a Fisher dolly, not a steadicam. You can even see the J.L. Fisher label.

[–]Cigil 7 points8 points ago

it's a dewalt...

[–]wolfgame 8 points9 points ago

slightly different shape, same result.

[–]DePiddy 1 point2 points ago

You seem to know a lot about film making. When you say Monster, do you mean the same company that sells the overpriced cables or "super huge, dude?"

Edit: Further Googling reveals a Monster Peacock.

Unrelated to the topic, 'Googling' appears to be a default word for SwiftKey Tablet Keyboard for Android.

[–]Salmon_Fairy 2 points3 points ago

No, he just means monster. Like big and awesome.

[–]FromaLand 3 points4 points ago

The third pic could almost be from the Patriot.

[–]thesaucymango94 10 points11 points ago

What part of the movie is the 3rd pic from?

[–]Boxford 116 points117 points ago

The funeral procession for the old Commissioner.

[–]Mitch_Deadberg 23 points24 points ago

It's at the Commissioner's funeral just before Jim Gordon is shot and "killed"

[–]Mattistehwinnar 17 points18 points ago

I've seen the Dark Knight probably ten times and I've never noticed that the Joker is in the funeral procession scene without his makeup on. I double checked and sure enough, he's there.

[–]matt2053 105 points106 points ago

Really? He starts the melee by firing his rifle at the stage. It was a pretty pivotal moment!

[–]Mattistehwinnar 19 points20 points ago

I always figured it was just one of his cronies. He's only on screen for a second.

[–]nkeithb 15 points16 points ago

It happens to the best of us. But you got to experience a 'holy shit, that was actually...?' moment since you failed to see it. Either way my friend, you win.

[–]bru_tech 2 points3 points ago

Figured it was a lookalike, since a bunch of them wore clown masks

[–]Janderson2494 6 points7 points ago

I noticed it either the first or second time watching the movie. It's very easy to miss, so don't beat yourself up.

[–]pinkmeansdanger 1 point2 points ago

heh. i live right on that intersection.

[–]emtcj 6 points7 points ago

What do you charge?

[–]bookywooky 85 points86 points ago

And yet...I still can't see that it's him behind the makeup

[–]erikx213 7 points8 points ago

I couldnt untill now. that picture of him without the make up and the scares gave me a chill.

[–]ToasterTinte 8 points9 points ago

wow, you can see him in her face actually

[–]Anus_Blender 33 points34 points ago

My brain still refuses to believe that Heath Ledger was under that makeup.

[–]Salzberger 9 points10 points ago

I can't even see it when i try and look for it. The only scene where my mind can match it to Heath's face is when he's getting interrogated. His square jawline really stands out then.

[–]fabio1093 97 points98 points ago

It´s a shame he isnt with us anymore, would have loved to see more of him.

[–]12factsaboutducks 46 points47 points ago

Although he had been in a few high-ish profile movies, The Dark Knight would have put him on the map! It would be awesome to see what kind of roles he accepted after this, but alas...

[–]Dawens 71 points72 points ago

Given he prodigiously played a gay cowboy before playing an iconic, psychopathic clown, it's a sure bet he would have accepted any role. The range Heath possessed and showcased was incredible...almost absurd. And he was only 28.

[–]WolfInTheField 16 points17 points ago

There's a difference between being able to get any role and taking any role you get, for the record. Ledger =! Cage

[–]UnholyDemigod 14 points15 points ago

Have you seen Ned Kelly? Brilliant fucking movie

[–]mrgreen999 7 points8 points ago

Watch 'Two Hands' it's a brilliant Australian movie that he starred in. His acting is fantastic in that too.

[–]libratsio 223 points224 points ago

How is it I miss someone I've never met....

[–]oxygenmoron 209 points210 points ago

cos u did meet him. only, he didn't meet u.

[–]From_Thee_Future 132 points133 points ago

That's deep man.

[–]durnright 173 points174 points ago

Lyk dis if u cry evrytim

[–]aphexcoil 21 points22 points ago

Part of it for me was the realization that Heath was a really humble person in real life and also because I sort of grew up with him (in the sense that we were around the same age). You can really see how versatile his acting skills were as he progressed and grew older.

He just struck me as a very humble yet extremely talented man. He passed away much too young. A real tragic loss indeed.

[–]spivey378 1 point2 points ago

Same age of him as well and I always felt a bond with him while we both grew up and I watched his career blossom. It's a shame he left us so young and as his career was really taking an interesting direction with challenging roles instead of the teen flicks he started in.

[–]johnylaw 22 points23 points ago

I don't know, but I feel it too. I've always scoffed at people being upset over celebrities deaths, but whenever I think about Heath Ledger I feel an ache.

[–]virtu333 79 points80 points ago

During this scene I was wondering how no one saw a guy walking around in make up (since the mask was off)

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 208 points209 points ago

I'm sure people did see him, but The Joker wasn't known to the public at that point, so people just ignored him. Lets say you're in New York, and you see a guy in clown make up. Are you going to go call the police just because he's standing on a corner wearing make up? No, of course not.

At that point, no one but the police really knew about The Joker, so there was no need for panic or to even react. To anyone who saw him, he was just some loser standing on the street corner wearing clown make up. Typical in Gotham! ;)

[–]psychobilly1 51 points52 points ago

Nice explanation

But explain this for me. Throughout the bank heist scene, when we view this clown from behind, his hair is always Brown. When he takes his mask off, his hair is green.

Explain that.

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 110 points111 points ago

It was a conscious decision by Nolan to make The Joker reveal more of a surprise. If his hair was green from the beginning, we would automatically know it's the Joker. You're right though, it doesn't make sense. It's just a stylistic choice made by the director.

[–]mcawkward 18 points19 points ago

I thought his hair had a slight green tint to it when we see him on the corner

[–]Gravitron3000 8 points9 points ago

i always did too to be honest.

[–]ShaneD27 2 points3 points ago

Me too, I thought it looked a little greenish

[–]KyngGeorge 96 points97 points ago

He had to improvise. He realized that brown hair wouldn't look as good for his clown getup. So he ran to the employees lounge, grabbing some pepper packets. He opened them up, threw the pepper into the air in front of him, and breathed it in, causing him to sneeze. He then proceeded to use the mucus produced as a hair gel/dye.

[–]ForzaOne 48 points49 points ago

Seems legit

[–]room23 23 points24 points ago

Maybe you're meant to view the film through the other robbers' perspectives. Under shadows and in the action they wouldn't have noticed the green hair; they would have assumed it was brown, seen it as brown, and thought it was brown.

You never know whose narrative you're watching when you watch a film. Not everything you see needs to be 100% reality-to-film.

[–]TaffyRaphie 8 points9 points ago

If we're gonna start complaining about dumb shit in a pretty good movie then we should forget about the hair bit and think about how no one noticed a school bus crash into the side of a FUCKING BANK, stay there for a minute, then inconspicuously take off with a huge pack of school buses, with no one noticing.

[–]LANGsTON7056 1 point2 points ago

He could have done it in the van.

[–]psychobilly1 2 points3 points ago

It's Brown in the bank. He walks near the hostages while the other guys open the vault.

[–]rusty_chipmunk 92 points93 points ago

Actually the Joker was referenced at the end of Batman Begins if I'm not mistaken,Gordon told Batman about how he robbed a bank (not the same bank in the beginning of TDK)

[–]mattbryce2000 79 points80 points ago

At that point, no one but the police really knew about The Joker, so there was no need for panic or to even react.

The police might not have released the image of the joker yet, so only Batman and the police would have known.

[–]Mattyzooks 22 points23 points ago

Ramirez: "He can't resist showing his face" Gordon: "What's he hiding behind that make up?"

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 24 points25 points ago

Like I said, the cops knew about The Joker, and so did the criminals(as evident by the bank robbers' dialogue). But your average joe, driving to his 9-5, didn't know about The Joker yet. Hence, no ordinary citizen paid any attention to The Joker when he was on the street corner. He wasn't known to the public of Gotham yet. He was still very underground at the beginning of TDK, so only the police and criminals knew about him.

[–]asljkdfhg 7 points8 points ago

Or he's Heath Ledger. I heard he's pretty famous.

[–]NotChainsawJuggler 7 points8 points ago

But then what about the robbers during the opening heist, who were talking about how the joker is some whack job who wears makeup? Were they not in the van picking him up? This has always bothered me.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

This always annoyed me too. I assumed that the guy holding the mask had to be someone else, otherwise it just doesn't fit.

[–]bangonthedrums 18 points19 points ago

The guys in the van don't see his face, since he puts the mask on before they get there

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

Kind of. See here at around 1:25. They arrive from behind him and he puts it on before he gets in the car. Too close for comfort, but I suppose safety is not the Joker's main concern.

[–]datTrooper 6 points7 points ago

But the van came from behind him and when it pulls up he directly puts on the mask while looking at the ground. It's thinkable that they didnt see his face I'd say.

[–]lvstrip 2 points3 points ago

What about them? Yes, one of them was in the bus to pick them up. To them he was just a crazy crime boss who wore clown makeup.

[–]trippster413 185 points186 points ago

I think what upsets me the most, us that no one will ever play it as well as him ever again. I mean, it's the fucking Joker. Almost as necessary as Batman and Robin. He was awesome.

[–]mattbryce2000 470 points471 points ago

I'd say Joker is far more necessary than Robin.

[–]AATroop 66 points67 points ago

Until Robin becomes modernized (and given his own movie).

[–]farfle10 34 points35 points ago

it should probably be a comedy

[–]notanothermatt 161 points162 points ago

Starring Michael Cera as Robin.

[–]Lecard 137 points138 points ago

I'm finally Mr. Batman.

It's just Batman.

[–]electrolemon 38 points39 points ago

Robin: But you sai-

Batman: Doesn't matter who.

[–]Kanye_Westicles 21 points22 points ago

The fact that you're even calling it batman shows me that you're not ready.

[–]donttouchmyfeet 25 points26 points ago

Visualizing that physically hurt me.

[–]JuanCarlosOfReddit 30 points31 points ago

"Bad guys! Do you... Uhm... Think that you could stop, maybe? Please?"

[–]AATroop 49 points50 points ago

No.

[–]commander-in-queef 2 points3 points ago

I don't think it has a choice.

[–]denizenKRIM 39 points40 points ago

Very debatable. As an antagonist, Joke reigns supreme. But as a supporting character, none have had the longevity and sheer presence Robin has had in 90% of the seminal Batman events throughout the decades.

Comic book fans LOVE to ignore Robin, ironically ignoring that Batman has had more stories with Robin, than without. Hell, Robin came in only one year after Batman's debut. But "fans" would have you believe he's a throwaway or does nothing for the mythos.

[–]yetkwai 24 points25 points ago

The problem with the Robin character is that he doesn't fit in well with the whole loner fighting criminals to avenge his parent's deaths.

And if you want Batman to be taken seriously as a story for adult you have the whole problem of Batman taking a kid into dangerous situations. Child endangerment is not heroic and its not bad-assed.

The Robin character works ok for the campy version of Batman where we know if we tune in next week at the same bat-time on the same bat-channel Batman and the boy wonder will find some way to escape whatever trap the villains set for them.

The existence of Robin means the danger isn't as real. If the danger is real then Batman is a real dick for putting a kid in that situation. I think the death of Jason Todd should have ended the Robin character. And of course Jason Todd should have stayed dead. That should have made it obvious that what Batman does is too dangerous to involve children. But I guess they have to have a Robin because... tradition.

[–]denizenKRIM 31 points32 points ago

The problem with the Robin character is that he doesn't fit in well with the whole loner fighting criminals to avenge his parent's deaths.

Fine. But when the vast majority of the lore plainly has Batman fighting alongside Robin, then maybe fans need to reassess if that "loner" title is rightly deserved. If readers prefer a very specific interpretation in which Bruce genuinely is a loner with no partners, then they need to admit that neither history nor quantity of stories support their position.

And if you want Batman to be taken seriously as a story for adult you have the whole problem of Batman taking a kid into dangerous situations. Child endangerment is not heroic and its not bad-assed.

How is this a question of seriousness? If anything that's a moral and ethical dilemma. Which any good story should feature. And Batman's entire character is FULL of these clashes of what's right and wrong. The rationale behind Bruce's willingness to take Robin(s) under his wing is that they would've gone off and pursued the vigilante thing regardless. At least under his guidance, they're less likely to be killed and can be taught to approach situations more intelligently. You don't have to agree with it. All the writers have to ensure is that it makes sense from Bruce's perspective. And it absolutely does.

The Robin character works ok for the campy version of Batman where we know if we tune in next week at the same bat-time on the same bat-channel Batman and the boy wonder will find some way to escape whatever trap the villains set for them.

I'm going to make a guess I've made every time I've come across comments like this: you've never read more than a handful of Robin stories, and the campy iteration likely dominates your perception of who Robin is. I haven't been wrong yet.

The existence of Robin means the danger isn't as real. If the danger is real then Batman is a real dick for putting a kid in that situation. I think the death of Jason Todd should have ended the Robin character. And of course Jason Todd should have stayed dead. That should have made it obvious that what Batman does is too dangerous to involve children. But I guess they have to have a Robin because... tradition.

Then you have an issue with a very large aspect of Batman. There's just no way around it. Him "endangering" kids is IN EVERY MEDIUM he's been written in. Since 1940. Why do people just blatantly ignore this? This isn't something you can debate over. It is a fact that Robin has been a significant role in the mythos. All thanks to Batman taking them in. Period. This is like watching a news interview with a murderer's friends/family: "he would NEVER! that's just not in his nature!" -- well, the overwhelming evidence indicates the exact opposite.

Feel free to take it up with the hundreds of writers since 1940 who have kept Robin an integral part of the lore. Peruse through the list, and you'll find dozens of acclaimed and respected writers. I'll leave it to you to determine if they're "wrong".

[–]bleyva 27 points28 points ago

Nice try, Robin

[–]jonafu 2 points3 points ago

I wish everyone on reddit quoted like you do.

You should give classes on markup.

Oh, and... Bob Kane.

[–]batmanlight 4 points5 points ago

Comic book fans LOVE to ignore vote to kill Robin off.

[–]Alistair_Hazard 144 points145 points ago

no one will ever play it as well as him ever again.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves fella. There are plenty of great interpretations of Hamlet, there will be plenty of great interpretations of The Joker.

[–]omgpro 119 points120 points ago

Everyone knows TDK is the best movie of all time though, including future times so how would anyone ever do better. It's basic logic.

[–]Chuggo 21 points22 points ago

Agreed. I really didn't like Heath's interpretation at first. I was biased of course, just like all of the young people who know Heath as the Joker. Nicholson was all I had known. Now, a few years on, I have a new respect for Ledger's performance. He really did a great job and I think it's okay to say Jack and Heath both did a great instead of one being better than the other. Certainly Ledgers performance was much darker.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points ago

As someone who saw Keaton's Batman on my thirteenth birthday in 1989, I never felt like Nicholson was 'the Joker'. He was too busy being Jack Nicholson to be The Joker.

[–]MoonMonstar 16 points17 points ago

At some point, people will realize that the original 'Batman' isn't that great. It's not at a Forever level of bad, but it doesn't hold up. Returns is still fantastic.

[–][deleted] 77 points78 points ago

I just watched Batman 1989 through to The Dark Knight over the last week.

Batman should have been called "The Joker featuring Batman" with how much it was about the caped crusader, but I've seen it pointed out elsewhere on reddit how all four of the first movies were pretty much about the villain first.

I liked Returns -- Batman 1989 was at half-Burton and Returns went full-Burton. Forever, was half-Burton-half-Schumacher. Batman & Robin went full-Schumacher.

You never go full Schumacher.

[–]SwarleyJr 10 points11 points ago

This is the most accurate description I've ever heard about the early Batman films.

[–]BDS_UHS 2 points3 points ago

Batman should have been called "The Joker featuring Batman"

Jack Nicholson actually received top billing over Michael Keaton for that film. The only other time that happened was Batman and Robin, where Arnold Schwarzenegger received top billing over George Clooney.

[–]GrizzlyAdams90 7 points8 points ago

Not trying to sound like a hipster but even when I was kid I didn't like the movies that much but I loved Batman TAS. When I got older I basically kept picking apart why I didn't like the movies. Now I honestly feel like they are horrible renditions of Batman, But hey that's just my opinion.

[–]amalgamatedchaos 4 points5 points ago

I agree with both of you. Just when we thought we saw the ultimate look at this franchise, a brilliant film-maker along with a very talented cast will come around and show us a whole new take on the Joker/Batman dynamic.

I can't wait.

[–]JasontypeR 2 points3 points ago

I feel like the Joker needs to be dapper and smooth but still be a raving lunatic. It could be played a lot of different ways I guess.

[–]SucculentSoap 2 points3 points ago

I totally agree. When I first heard Ledger was cast as The Joker I was so disappointed. I was completely proved wrong but not because he was better than Jack but because he was his own Joker.

[–]kalmiopsis 2 points3 points ago

It's useless comparing them. Jack's character was human, he was scared of death, he wanted money, he had human desires and motivations. He was funny. Heath's character was a suciopathic, fearless, inhuman monster. He was dark, he was frightening. Other then physical appearance, they couldn't be more different.

[–]I_I_II_III_IIIII 2 points3 points ago

Nicholson had a more dominant role in the movie, from a number of lines standpoint. Heath just wasn't on the screen nearly enough for my tastes. That's kind of why I'm not as jazzed about the performance as everyone else.

[–]Danielfair 4 points5 points ago

Kenneth Branagh master race reporting in

[–]twonkythechicken 71 points72 points ago

I disagree, I wouldn't say that no-one will ever play it as well as him, you never know who might play the Joker in future Batman films.

Admittedly, Ledger was fantastic, but you never know.

[–]Muchuchu 30 points31 points ago

I'm sure people said the same thing after Jack Nicholson played the Joker. In fact it's hard to compare Heath's and Jack's performances, kind of like comparing apples and oranges.

[–]ThisFaceLeftBlank 127 points128 points ago

I never liked Jack Nicholson's Joker. I couldn't forget that it was Nicholson. It was more Nicholson in makeup than the Joker, to me. Ledger's was magnetic. The little bits of business, the tics, the odd inflection, the licking of the lips, the odd way he walked, his hand movements . . mesmerizing. You just HAD to watch him. I hope someone comes along someday and redefines him like Ledger did for that movie. That will be a good day.

[–]samferrara 35 points36 points ago

You nailed what makes his performance so great, but I'd add the loud breathing and lip smacking.

[–]gogojohnnygogogo 11 points12 points ago

And "Six?"

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

No, I'm no...T"

[–]osidiusxemphatic 3 points4 points ago

Seriously one of my favorite moments in the movie. You're the first person I've ever come across who's referenced it.

[–]denizenKRIM 26 points27 points ago

If Nicholson's natural mannerisms are in line with Joker's, then technically there's nothing at fault. As a performance, Nicholson nailed the role pitch-perfect, irrespective of whether it was "him" or Joker. He was so sought after and anticipated precisely because people thought Jack was born for the role.

I do seem to recall the humongous boner Reddit has for RDJ as Stark. Are they conveniently ignoring that RDJ does little "acting" there as well? Why is one derided, while the other is unanimously applauded?

[–]laddergoat89 12 points13 points ago

I'm not a fan of Nicholson's Joker either.

[–]zgh5002 7 points8 points ago

People said Ledger couldn't top Nicholson's Joker when The Dark Knight was in pre-production. People will say the same thing when someone else is cast as the Joker down the line.

[–]UMustBeNewHere 49 points50 points ago

but we really mean it this time

[–]ScarletJew72 22 points23 points ago

These were people who never realized Jack's Joker really wasn't that good. He just played...Jack and it happend to translate well into the character.

Also, Ledger's performance was one of the greatest acting jobs I have ever seen in film.

[–]SipPOP 45 points46 points ago

Mark Hamill and I beg to differ.

[–]Purdy14 49 points50 points ago

There is a MASSIVE difference between a voice actor and a screen actor.

[–]Isaac_Clarke_Is_Dead 19 points20 points ago

This is true, but I remember watching an interview with Hamill and his co-workers. They all said when Hamill is in the studio, its a completely different experience. While most voice actors sit down, Hamill would stand and actually ACT out his roles while voicing them. I think if given the chance, he would do an outstanding job of portraying - NOT Nolan's Joker, but the Joker from the Animated series. Yes, they are the same villain..but they have entirely different personalities and carry themselves in entirely different ways.

[–]Phockey326 5 points6 points ago

I'd rather he play the Arkham video games Joker, the Animated Series was really tame since it was a kid's show. The joker he voices in the video games is a deranged killer like he's supposed to be.

[–]Ozlin 2 points3 points ago

HHAAAARRLLEEEEYYY!!!

[–]Mr_robasaurus 12 points13 points ago

While I agree that Hamill is a great voice actor for the part, he's not going to be able to physically act the part as well as Mr. Ledger did.

I loved him in Arkham Asylum.

[–]Punkmaffles 2 points3 points ago

Possibly he's been the joker forever. But I don't think he could ACT the role, it's possible he very well could. Hamill would be the absolute go to voice over for any joker part though.

[–]elossia 28 points29 points ago

I thought this was going to be the supposed picture of him skateboarding over Christian Bale

[–]BlakeHobbes 2 points3 points ago

Wat

[–]emmaleth 23 points24 points ago

[–]visavita 2 points3 points ago

The skateboard is photoshopped in if you didn't already know.

[–]hanswurst_throwaway 87 points88 points ago

This picture is so rare it's only onthe internet.

[–]czarchastic 11 points12 points ago

I secured my copy of this rare find. Better act now while supplies last!

[–]hypermog 10 points11 points ago

I read in one of those AMA threads that he was speaking in his Australian accent when not being filmed. It would be amazing to see footage of that.

[–]MorreQ 26 points27 points ago

We all miss him. So very much.

[–]JaronK 35 points36 points ago

Considering it's on Reddit now, I suppose it's not a rare picture anymore...

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[–]phi186 10 points11 points ago

You've been on reddit.

[–]upsideleft 24 points25 points ago

your moms been on reddit

[–]SirBenjamin 16 points17 points ago

I don't understand why Christopher Nolan is neglecting fans of the films with behind the scenes footage with Heath Ledger? He acts like it will be offensive to his memory when in fact it will be a way to remember him.

[–]spaceicecream 13 points14 points ago

I would like to see behind the scenes video of him in costume. I know there must be deleted scenes as well, but I guess we will never see them...

[–]NippyDrizzle 14 points15 points ago

We will eventually see them, in a couple of years when they make the anniversary edition of the trilogy or something

[–]xfilmmaker[S] 37 points38 points ago

I hope so, but Nolan seems to hate behind-the-scenes stuff. I think he believes it ruins movie magic. Admirable...but mistaken.

[–]mcawkward 22 points23 points ago

I thoroughly believe ledger would have gone down as one of the greatest actors ever. His youth combined with his tremendous fucking skill. Incredible. I foresaw him playing many a psycopath. Much like anthony hopkins. But imo, a much much better psycopath. The joker just felt so... Real. So genuinely creepy.. Like i was actually interacting with a real, delusional, psychotic madman.

Miss you Heath...

Fuck death...

[–]I_I_II_III_IIIII 2 points3 points ago

Ledger was better than Hopkins. Ledger was not only a convincing psychopath, but he was equally good at playing a good hearted innocent kid. Monster's Ball, Patriot, Knight's Tale, 10 Things. And there was this other Elizabethan period flick I forget but he was pretty good in that too.

[–]m_bird13 24 points25 points ago

Original ending of the Dark Knight would have been the Joker being responsible for ruining dent's face and thus setting up the third movie. no offense to TDKR, but damn the the third movie could have been something else, something perhaps much better.

[–]FancyMoustache 17 points18 points ago

but damn the the third movie could have been something else, something perhaps much better.

This is what saddens me the most. Can you imagine TDKR with the Joker - who I'm sure would have been included if Ledger hadn't passed away? It would have been fucking awesome.

[–]m_bird13 4 points5 points ago

i think the ending would have been the same since nolan wanted that since batman begins but regardless it would have been awesome and no one would have complained about the villain

[–]DavidZzztone 2 points3 points ago

Realistically, he wouldn't have come in until Bane releases everyone from Blackgate and Arkham. But still...

[–]BDS_UHS 13 points14 points ago

Urban legend. The Dark Knight was fully scripted and filmed months before Ledger died. Nolan's original concept to have the Joker scar Dent in a third film was scrapped long before filming.

[–]m00nh34d 4 points5 points ago

I've often wondered if the actual actors play the part when they're wearing full face masks for whatever reason.

[–]Rlysrh 2 points3 points ago

I bet they do. Its like when you see voice actors gesticulating and making the facial expressions in the recording studio, its all part of being in the character.

[–]JakkOne 17 points18 points ago

It's so rare, that I posted it 21 hours ago.

[–]scudd 2 points3 points ago

How long before someone posts the shopped skateboard pic?

[–]timothygruich 3 points4 points ago

I miss this guy... Just think about all the great roles he had left in him.

[–]sicsix 7 points8 points ago

no I kill the bus driver...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

Am I the only one who can't tell the difference between Heath Ledger and Joseph Gordon Levitt? I seriously thinks it's JGL in every photo.

[–]the_blackfish 16 points17 points ago

I just did a search of the thread for Levitt because I think their eyes are similar, particularly in this photo - but I can certainly tell the difference between them.

So yes. You are the only one. All alone, over there. I bet you're eating porridge.

[–]I_I_II_III_IIIII 2 points3 points ago

When I first saw 10 Things I thought "who is this guy? I didn't know the Third Rock kid had an older brother."

They have the same eyes and face structure, that flat face and dark eyes. Heath looks like an older brother who hogged a little bit more testosterone in the womb.

[–]TyrionLannister2012 0 points1 point ago

This makes me so sad. So young. :( Would have loved to see how else he could have surprised me with his career. I never thought he would amount to the actor he did. Man did he prove me wrong.

[–]michaeldraven 2 points3 points ago

I've always wondered why throughout the opening scene of the Dark Knight, the Joker's hair is brown. All of a sudden, when he says "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you.... Stranger!" and he pulls off the clown mask, suddenly his hair is green.

[–]tdn 0 points1 point ago

What do people mean when they say rare video or picture when it's digital? I assume they just mean rarely seen.

[–]SweetPrism 1 point2 points ago

That picture of him is so human. It says to me that he's still a man, not a super-villain. While so many fantasized about what it'd have been like to be him, he was fantasizing about getting done with work for the day; putting his feet up, maybe? Normalcy. Peace.

[–]powermad47 0 points1 point ago

So rare I saw this 3 months ago

[–]freefallin002 0 points1 point ago

Since the advent of the internet nothing is "rare"

[–]yle2012 2 points3 points ago

Shut up about rare! Jesus.

[–]gurgleflurb 2 points3 points ago

I'm very weary of someone re-booting the franchise. I honestly don't know if I would watch it. Its like we had the best of both worlds: The extremely fantastic with the Michael Keaton/Jack Nicholson and the Val Kilmer/Clooney/Tommy Lee Jones/Jim Carrey, to the more realistic Nolan films. I don't honestly see what other ways they could go. I think maybe an older Batman like Zach Snyder suggested. Any ideas on where else they could go?

[–]NigelxD 2 points3 points ago

I'd like to point out to everyone who's posting "omg it's not rare anymore after u posted it lol!"

It's rare in the sense that the picture is not very well known, not rare as in it's difficult to find.

[–]OuroborosBeast 1 point2 points ago

I miss Heath... He was a great actor and took The Joker to a whole other level. I think his acting from that point on would have only sky rocketed.

[–]Rajio 2 points3 points ago

So rare OP filled up comments with more behind the scenes pictures.