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Dear Japan... (i.imgur.com)

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[–]monkey_rench12Notts 25 points26 points ago

What happened?

[–]HPBDurham[!] 50 points51 points ago

Last Jap gymnast on the pommel horse had a poor dismount and scored so low that they dropped to 4th place. Examination of the scoring shows the judges didn't give him any marks for the dismount when they should have - even though he fell as he dismounted he landed on his feet so should have had at least a low score for it.

The Japs appealed and had some extra fractions of a point awarded and jumped from 4th to 2nd thereby pushing GB into bronze place. Fiendish Orientals...

[–]monkey_rench12Notts 75 points76 points ago

I suppose it's not a British sporting competition if we weren't robbed by the officials at some point.

[–]HPBDurham[!] 110 points111 points ago

Nah we weren't robbed mate. The scorers cocked up and didn't give him any points for a dismount. Even a crappy dismount gets a small fraction of a point - in this instance the judges gave him zero which was wrong.

Disappointing to drop to Bronze after thinking we'd got Silver but it's still a brilliant result for GB. and I think the team would have settled for that this morning.

[–]theamelany 2 points3 points ago

And we beat the USA and Russians.

[–]RudahnMoody Mancunian 3 points4 points ago

It was the Ukrainians I was disappointed for. They got pushed out of a medal completely.

[–]slatterboyNorfolk 6 points7 points ago

We. Were. Robbed.

Edit: Apparenly people didn't pick up on the humor/sarcasm in my comment :(

[–]KibboKiftLahndun 14 points15 points ago

Given your tag is Norfolk, I'm going to read your comment in an Alan Partridge voice, with perhaps a little too much eye contact and mouth breathing. It's funnier this way trust me.

[–]Collosis 4 points5 points ago

We. Wuz. Robbed

FTFY

[–]LolworthLondon, so do as you're told. 0 points1 point ago

If they'd always got it right we'd never have won in '66

[–]jasenlee 78 points79 points ago

Maybe I'm wrong or something but I'm pretty sure everyone was supposed to stop saying "Jap" about 50 years ago. I've always been taught it's racist.

[–]codemonkey_ukUK 21 points22 points ago

Confirmed. I work for a firm with Japanese clients. If you MUST abbreviate Japan or Japanese, then either JP or JPN, never ever JAP.

[–]cb43569Fife 4 points5 points ago

The "fiendish Orientals" bit was also very much suspect, although I'm going to assume it was some sort of attempt at humour, so I'll let it slide.

[–]BoomTree 14 points15 points ago

I'm always confused by which are acceptable - afghan is fine to refer to someone from afghanistan, but paki is a big no-no to refer to someone from pakistan. Suppose we're just going to have to consider context =/

[–]0x0D0ADevonshire 64 points65 points ago

The general rule is: if something has been used as an ethnic slur in the past don't use it.

[–]BoomTree 15 points16 points ago

Yeah, I think 'Don't use words as ethnic slurs' is a better rule though.

[–]InfernoZeusUniversity of Surrey -1 points0 points ago

HPB clearly wasn't using Jap as an ethnic slur, he was just using it as a shorter form of 'Japanese'.

[–]The_AmbrosianBirmingham 14 points15 points ago

Yes, but that goes to the 'if something has been used as an ethnic slur in the past don't use it.' comment. Because it wasn't used with malicious intent there doesn't mean it loses it punch as a racial slur.

[–]cssafcLondon 5 points6 points ago

As a Brit I wouldn't say Paki unless I was joking with Pakistani friends. I haven't experienced the word "Jap" being much of a taboo (as I'm not American) and I don't consider it that derogatory, it's just a short term for Japanese. Brit, Jap or Argie are the same thing in my opinion.

[–]TheBetterGaijin 1 point2 points ago

Japanese people are very much offended by the word "Jap". No, they don't care that it's an abbreviation.

[–]SoyBeanExplosionCambridgeshire 0 points1 point ago

I'd say it's probably comparable to calling Chinese people "Chinks"; though you may be joking when you say it or just saying it because it's shorter, it's nonetheless racist and offensive to them.

[–]Gladstone98 25 points26 points ago

You're wrong, since World War 2 'Jap' has basically been racist, context doesn't matter, its not acceptable and you guys shouldn't be saying it just because you can't be bothered to say Japanese.

The Minister of the Japanese Embassy in London protested that "most Japanese people find the word ‘Jap’ offensive, irrespective of the circumstances in which it is used." Source

[–]Ganty 8 points9 points ago

Hear hear.

[–]Importanter 4 points5 points ago

Agreed - if it's a word used as an insult (which it is), don't use it. It's as simple as that.

[–]wantoosoon -2 points-1 points ago

Most Japanese people have never heard the word "Jap" and wouldn't know what it meant if they did. I very much doubt most of them find it offensive.

He also says that the word is "reviled by everyone" in Japan. Rubbish.

Edit: Downvotes, really? For telling the truth? How many Japanese people speak English? And how many of those know the word "Jap"?

[–]chocoholicjp 0 points1 point ago

you said japs don't know the word,don't you?read this.

the spactator"jap ~",ambassador of japan"would you not use the word?",spectator"?" http://logsoku.com/thread/engawa.2ch.net/poverty/1343697534/ rankei shimbun's article http://sankei.jp.msn.com/world/news/120731/erp12073103260001-n1.htm

[–]chocoholicjp 0 points1 point ago

my reply to you that i wrote seemed to be delated,cuz im "fin jap"? Cult sentence from Kitano takeshi's movie"Brother"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SajkGSx6L8 he says"fin jap gurai wakauyo,bakayarou!" means "I definitely know the meaning of F**kin Jap. You son of a bitch!"

and thank you for giving us fabulous name "jap's eye",racists. http://news4vip.livedoor.biz/archives/51898277.html

[–]eldenvLondon/Italy/Edinburgh 3 points4 points ago

Because the demonym for people from Afghanistan is actually Afghan, whereas for someone from Pakistan, it is Pakistani

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

You have to admit that unless you're from south Asia or know people from the area you might not even be aware that "paki" is a slur whereas "pak" is not.

[–]poon-is-foodSheep Shagger in Colchester 3 points4 points ago

Its just the way it is. its like someone being english instead of englandish or englandi.

[–]InfernoZeusUniversity of Surrey -5 points-4 points ago

It's more like calling someone a Brit. No one takes offense at that.

[–]jasenlee -1 points0 points ago

I've had similar thoughts. Sometimes it seems like it's okay and other times who knows. If I ever dared to use that word my mother would slap me silly. I don't know... maybe my Mom was wrong.

[–]Mit3210British South African 15 points16 points ago

Mom? AMERICAN!

[–]jasenlee 3 points4 points ago

You all want to hang me up from a tree now? It's cool. I like burning witches as much as the next guy.

EDIT: BTW, that was a joke. You can poke me with sticks. I do have a sense of humor.

[–]Mit3210British South African 1 point2 points ago

poke with stick

[–]kinglewy00Scummy Rhyl -4 points-3 points ago

I wish people would stop calling us Brits. It's offensive.

[–]Mixed-Signals 8 points9 points ago

I'm a little bothered by it, since the abbreviation is the same as an ethnic slur. You wouldn't call people from Niger "Nigs" to save some syllables.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

Whereas scot isnt

[–]ketsugiSingapore 0 points1 point ago

What does one call people from Niger? Not Nigerians, obviously... Niger-ans?

[–]vercian 2 points3 points ago

Nigerien. It's pronounced quite differently from Nigerians.

[–]papalkombatW-s-M 6 points7 points ago

Ugh, it's only ever the context that's racist. People are always going to abbreviate.

[–]hampa9 19 points20 points ago

The problem is that previous, offensive, well known contexts become highly associated with the word itself and bring up bad feelings even when they are used in a good context.

I think the way to go is - you have the right to use that word, and other people have the right to be offended by it.

[–]MrJMaxted0291United Kingdom 2 points3 points ago

It's the intent that counts. If someone wants to take offence to what you say because you happen to slip in a couple of words they don't like, then they're just being petty and unwittingly perpetuating the racial connotations associated with the word. Intention is everything.

[–]hampa9 13 points14 points ago

In an ideal world it would be all that counts, but in reality an offensive word used nicely can still conjure up bad feelings. I think it is best to avoid using those words if you want to get along with people.

[–]The_BravinatorLancashire 4 points5 points ago

If someone has had that word hurled at them as an insult their entire life, you can't really blame them for being a bit sensitive about it. It's very easy to say "oh just get over it" from the lucky side of the fence.

[–]SoyBeanExplosionCambridgeshire 0 points1 point ago

It is racist.

[–]MrJMaxted0291United Kingdom 4 points5 points ago

I dunno man. Being called a Limey or a Yank isn't considered racist, even though the terms are both explicitly pejorative. Also bear in mind that calling a Japanese person a Jap is just describing that they are Japanese in short form. It's like the difference between calling a man Tom or Thomas. Now if you were to refer to them as gooks, slant-eyes, fish heads or any other outright rude, derogatory name taking a shot at their heritage, then that would be racist.

[–]Buckeye70 1 point2 points ago

Yank has a derogatory meaning???

[–]dreamstretch 3 points4 points ago

Yes, it means "American".

[–]coupdetat'Ey up -5 points-4 points ago

As racist as saying brit?

[–]Mit3210British South African 9 points10 points ago

I hate that word.

[–]coupdetat'Ey up -1 points0 points ago

i just think it's not racist so why is any other abbreviation

[–]Mit3210British South African 8 points9 points ago

"Brit" Sounds horrible, I'm not saying it's racist.

[–]KintoborBristolian in Manchester 8 points9 points ago

Yes, I far prefer Briton.

[–]coupdetat'Ey up 3 points4 points ago

no i agree it sounds crap i don't like it too much either

[–]eggbeanLondon 6 points7 points ago

Yeah, I hate it too, but it's only really the Americans that use the word, and also dumb British people on reddit when referring to themselves. They probably also use that awful American word "gotten", but "could care less", because "it's not that big of a deal".

[–]cb43569Fife 1 point2 points ago

I normally only refer to myself as a Scot, but what on earth is wrong with Brit? I've heard dozens of Britons, if not more, use it to refer to themselves. It's definitely not on par with derogatory terms; as this is the first time I've ever heard an objection to its use, I'm genuinely surprised and confused.

[–]eggbeanLondon 2 points3 points ago

It just sounds horrible and slightly cringeworthy in my opinion. It's not something I feel that strongly about, but I don't use the word myself. I don't think British people generally use the word to describe themselves (ignoring the internet generation who grew up on sites like this and so use American language without even realising).

[–]EmphursisEngland -1 points0 points ago

I always ask what they have ten of when I see gotten.

[–]TwistTurtleMilton Keynes 4 points5 points ago

Absolutely nothing that's worth the attention it's getting.

[–]perscitia 69 points70 points ago

I feel bad for everybody involved. The boys in Team GB got their hopes raised and dashed again, the Ukranians got into and then dropped out of the medals they so badly needed, and the Japanese team got booed by the entire stadium when they were (rightfully) awarded their points. I can't imagine they'll find it easy to celebrate with the British fans glaring daggers at them.

[–]nich959 12 points13 points ago

I dunno, they got a huge cheer on the podium (all the teams did) so the crowd forgave them pretty quickly

[–]angriersLancashire 9 points10 points ago

It was a clever move of the Japanese team to go shake the hands of the GB team before stepping on the podium. I suspect the cheers wouldn't have been as great otherwise.

[–]disco_jimUK 11 points12 points ago

There was a bigger controversy in the women's foil competition.... this one, not that much. They were right to appeal though I was shocked that their score jumped so much.

[–]westyfieldBath / Southampton Uni 9 points10 points ago

Really? I missed the women's foil, what happened?

[–]WBAGNR 9 points10 points ago

From what I can gather, the S Korean girl was winning by a point, when the clock got 'stuck' on 0:01 minutes in the final round. That allowed her opponent to score a touch, thus sending her through to the final (I presume a touch gives you 2 points?).

The S Korean girl launched an appeal, but had to sit on the stage where they duel while it was being considered. Eventually the appeal was overruled, he opponent went into the final, and she had to compete for the Bronze medal with little space in between her last duel and her ordeal.

Link

EDIT: Better link to the Independent article

[–]SacharifiedEsher 13 points14 points ago

At one second on the clock they they scored a very quick double-hit. That encounter took less than a second so they were still on 1.17 seconds or something. In the next encounter, the Korean received a technical penalty so they had to redo it starting at 1.17 again. However during this encounter, the clock was not stopped quickly enough so it fell to 0. When it was reset to 1 second due to the foul, this is where the confusion occurred because it looked like they added time to the clock for no reason.

However even the commentators did not know that she had received a penalty, and neither did the crowd, coach or player apparently as there was a lot of confusion and protest. This is the essence of the controversy, just a mis-communication.

A touch normally gives 1 point, but they were tied after the initial rounds and were in a sudden-death 'next-touch-wins' stage. However the Korean had 'priority' (no idea how this is decided, seems stupid to me) so if the sudden-death round ended with neither player scoring a touch, the player with priority is given the win.

If the timer hadn't been reset the Korean would have won by default, but it was reset which gave the German enough time to take the win.

[–]kbox 1 point2 points ago

So internal affairs were in on it the whole time?

[–]wantoosoon 0 points1 point ago

Yep, and the Korean (actually Ricky Jay disguised) was working undercover. The German was the mark all along but no one noticed because of the furore over the Japanese gymnast. A classic long con.

[–]ixid 5 points6 points ago

Epee, not foil.

[–]disco_jimUK 0 points1 point ago

argh, I just caught the end and was also watching the gymnastics at the time.... didn't actually look a the blade in their hands

[–]kleptofridge -3 points-2 points ago

I watched the women's foil, there didn't seem to be any controversy other than one of the women stopping and starting the match every 3 seconds.

Wow, downvoted and the OP got the wrong fucking competition. Nice.

[–]abienz 2 points3 points ago

It's been 100 years since Britain have won a medal in Men's team gymnastics, so even if it was a bronze, not silver it's definitely something to be proud of.

[–]metakaNottingham / London 58 points59 points ago

Sad, but predictable, to see things like this. What happened to good sportsmanship? The judges made a mistake, and Japan fully deserved to win the silver medal.

[–]poon-is-foodSheep Shagger in Colchester 33 points34 points ago

Team GB were fine with it, because they understand the rules. The majority if the audience do not, however, and think the Japanese got it just for complaining, hence the booing.

[–]cb43569Fife 9 points10 points ago

I'm quite frankly surprised to see a response with this level of maturity on Reddit. I thought that there would be more respect for proper sportsmanship in this community, but /r/unitedkingdom has let me down again.

[–]DSQEdinburgh 2 points3 points ago

It just because /r/unitedkingdom doesn't understand how gymnastic scoring works. The Japanese Team and Team GB trained together earlier this year so while both teams were frustrated by the judging mess up they all took it like champs because they are all friends.

[–]soothfastDorset 12 points13 points ago

That's gymnastics for you. Disputes over marking are par for the course.

[–]squigsBritish in Brussels 10 points11 points ago

The queen giving a one-finger insult? Shocking!

She's british. It should be two fingers!

[–]HPBDurham[!] 101 points102 points ago

To be fair the Jap guy deserved the extra points for his dismount, even if he did try to use his face.

[–]apeinthecity 17 points18 points ago

Just a heads up for future reference, I know you are just shortening the word Japanese but you really shouldn't say "Jap" it's considered a racial epithet.

[–]kbox 41 points42 points ago

Yeah Jap is offensive man, they prefer Chinese.

[–]HPBDurham[!] 4 points5 points ago

Thanks for that. I'll bear that advice in mind next time I'm feeling PC.

[–]tokyosix 20 points21 points ago

As someone who is half Japanese and half British, I had the worst conflict of interest ever. Nevertheless, Team GB did thoroughly well and I'm sure not many of us could say that they won a medal at the Olympics.

[–]FlewwyEngland 9 points10 points ago

They definitely deserved something for the dismount to be fair. And a bronze is brilliant! I was waiting for the first unexpected medal and there it was! Just need that gold now.

[–]gmfthelpEngurlund 9 points10 points ago

It wasn't Japan's fault, it was the scorers fault.

[–]cbfw86North London 5 points6 points ago

while it is a disappointment, bravo on any medal at all. it's been 100 years since we medaled in the men's team gymnastics. go team GB!

[–]IAMJesusAMAA 3 points4 points ago

I'm surprised we even got a medal

[–]lol_oopsie 4 points5 points ago

Well, if you want to watch another great GBR team, check out the womens' volleyball. LIVE right now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video/p00w2w88

Currently (00:06am) 1-2 in favour of Algeria. But we are winning the 4th set 15-7. It's a close-fought match, and neither team actually that good. Their goal was to win one set in the olympics, and it looks like they're going to win two!

The girls are entirely self-funded and get no support from the National Lottery. They raised their own money from sponsored bike rides and fundraising activities. And they're doing really well!

[–]therealmorrisUnited Kingdom 1 point2 points ago

Your link seems to go to beach volleyball, I think this is the one for the current live volleyball:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video/p00w2x8r

[–]lol_oopsie 2 points3 points ago

Hmm, weird. Anyway, we won! :D

[–]duckman273England 2 points3 points ago

Now it's Dear Lithuania.

[–]cssafcLondon 9 points10 points ago

I might just sound like a bitter Brit but if team GB were in their situation they would have accepted the judges decision. I feel for Ukraine, especially with their funding issues.

[–]SimoneDeBroccolah 30 points31 points ago

To be fair to the Japanese, us Brits got the points for a landing after one of ours fell but landed on their feet. Points for one points for all.

[–]cssafcLondon 0 points1 point ago

When was that? I didn't realise. I was watching the whole thing but not all the time, might have missed something.

[–]SimoneDeBroccolah 0 points1 point ago

I think it was Sam Oldham during his high bar routine

[–]cssafcLondon 0 points1 point ago

We got points for that? He went down like a sack of shit, didn't land on his feet without hands touching the floor.

[–]SimoneDeBroccolah 0 points1 point ago

oops, think you might be right about that one. Not sure who it was then, but they did refer to us receiving points for a similar landing later in the commentary.

[–]cssafcLondon 0 points1 point ago

I'd imagine they were referring to one of our gymnasts taking quite a few steps after the dismount, because we didn't fall like the Japanese gymnast did.

[–]hampa9 25 points26 points ago

How can you possibly know that? And how would that make Team GB better sportsmen? If they accepted being judged unfairly then they'd be idiots. Japan deserved those points and no-one should be trying to make them feel like they didn't.

And even from Team GB's viewpoint - it's better to get a fair bronze, than win a silver off the back of a judge's mistake.

[–]KintoborBristolian in Manchester 6 points7 points ago

Exactly. It is not their fault that their figures were smudged, it was the judging body's. Penalising the Japanese for the judges' error, or even expecting then to sit back and accept it, is frankly, ridiculous.

[–]cssafcLondon 0 points1 point ago

I agree the blame lies with the judges. I just have a feeling GB wouldn't have appealed. As I said though, I might just be biased (can't help it). Nothing against the Japanese though, they were very gracious (muted celebrations etc.) and they deserved the medal.

[–]reketrebn 0 points1 point ago

That's not true, if they'd been awarded incorrect marks, GB would have appealed. Beth Tweddle put in an inquiry about her floor in qualifications, so I don't see why the men's team would have done any differently.

[–]ColonelFlashman 18 points19 points ago

Definitely would not have. Appeals are parts of gymnastics!

[–]silvergrin17Warwickshire 14 points15 points ago

Completely agree. Really felt for the Ukrainians. I suppose in these circumstances it is worse to finish 4th than it is to finish 2nd

[–]cssafcLondon 23 points24 points ago

Fourth is always hard to take, but when you thought you had come third and had been celebrating, that must be devastating.

[–]ZOIDO 0 points1 point ago

I tried making this point before and got downvoted to smithereens.

Ukraine must be pissed with us... First the football and now this!

[–]Mit3210British South African -2 points-1 points ago

I misread "funding" as fucking.

[–]TabtykinsSussex 2 points3 points ago

Poor Ukraine, had their medal snatched away.

[–]Mit3210British South African 3 points4 points ago

They didn't receive one :P

[–]westhamhazEssex 0 points1 point ago

Hey come on now, the olympics is meant to be about great sportsmanship and role models to inspire the youth.... Although that was pretty funny.

[–]thisismyivorytowerScotland 1 point2 points ago

Thanks to someone who posted it, now all I can see is John Noble

[–]TheMelarnKent - Conservative 1 point2 points ago

It seems people are thinking the Japanese weren't awarded any points for the dismount. It's not that, it's the difficulty. He was given a D grade difficulty for the dismount originally, because he failed to execute it. But was promoted to a B grade (0.5 points extra) because the Americans had previously had the same sort of appeal upheld and rightly or wrongly, consistency in the judging is necessary. The marks taken off should've been for the execution (which they were) not for the difficulty.

He deserved it, credit to the guy for landing it to be honest.

I'm a Brit, I felt robbed but hey, any medal is good considering our history in gymnastics. The Japanese won the silver within the rules and so we can't complain.

[–]MetalKeirSolid 0 points1 point ago

This is harsh. We only had the silver for a short time while Japan were robbed of any medal, and were found to have won the silver in the end.

They were in second towards the end and felt even more robbed than we do now.

[–]contrarianism 0 points1 point ago

SO RACIST

[–]dcgiUnited Kingdom 1 point2 points ago

Should that be, "Dear Olympic Gymnastic Judges..."?

The Japanese appealed and got the points they deserved, fair play to them, we'd have done the same thing.

[–]DSQEdinburgh 0 points1 point ago

Nah it was the judges who messed up not the Japanese team. It's Ukraine I feel bad for.

[–]Scottishshinigami 1 point2 points ago

It's my fellow citizens that I am disappointed in. My Japanese friend had her flag stolen, said flag stamped on and was verbally abused by an angry English person. Great sportsmanship lads...

[–]FunnyFaun -1 points0 points ago

Sucks for England but I feel worse for the Ukraine.

[–]gmfthelpEngurlund 7 points8 points ago

GB. It's GB!!!!!!!

I know it's difficult (we're having the same problems in this house) but it's GBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBb

[–]kirun 0 points1 point ago

Deal with it

[–]sternslovchildEuropean Union 3 points4 points ago

Has manga escaped onto here now?

[–]kirun 0 points1 point ago

But traumatising the normals is the only fun I get!

[–]decanem -3 points-2 points ago

complain after a questionable incident, not at the end of the competition.

[–]superplankton 9 points10 points ago

It was essentially the last routine of the event (atleast the last by Ukraine, Japan and GBR)

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[–]xAtarigeekx 22 points23 points ago

Well in gymnastics you are allowed to appeal. Completely different from football. The scores are based on opinion of judges, so there is always room for error.

Japan asked for clarification of their score, and the judges corrected their own error.

Perfectly legal, perfectly fair. Great Britain would have done the same thing.

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[–]xAtarigeekx 13 points14 points ago

Clarification of the score = inquiring into points. Essentially they were saying "look at this again and check how you scored him."

The judges clearly felt that his dismount did deserve 0.5 being added on. At the end of the day that is all that matters.

[–]sgtkangUnited Kingdom 1 point2 points ago

Arguably that's more a problem with diving than a problem with gymnastics. Also, the bad manner was why he took a hit on the execution, it was the difficulty score they bumped up (final score = difficulty of routine + execution of routine).

[–]decanem -1 points0 points ago

thought he got 0.7 added in the end didnt he? pretty high...

[–]Mit3210British South African 1 point2 points ago

Nope. 0.5.

[–]dumbkidLondon 0 points1 point ago

Team GB in charge of winning

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