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[–]Neoflare 3 points4 points ago

Playing Two Headed Giant vs a mill + life gain combo is rage inducing.

[–]AffinityForCheese 4 points5 points ago

Mods are sleeping? Don't know. Many subreddits have implemented "no fluff" rules, but generally you can be pretty sure nothing will happen unless 1) mods are active about it 2) the rules are IN HUGE BOLD LETTERS IN THE SIDEBAR. Regarding posts like this, stock reaction GIFs with MTG titles seem kind of lazy.

[–]s-mores[M] 4 points5 points ago

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

[–]AffinityForCheese 1 point2 points ago

Nothing, officer! Never seen no memes in my life, no sir. Must be those hooligans next door making a ruckus with them "jeefs" and "imaged macros" and what have you.

[–]s-mores 1 point2 points ago

Getting upvotes in the comment thread of a removed link? Must be hackers.

[–]Sharzona 0 points1 point ago

But...but... it was funny!

[–]Jessedef 1 point2 points ago

Noobie to MTG question:

What is a "mill deck" exactly?

[–]AnBoat 5 points6 points ago

'Milling' refers to putting cards from the library into the graveyard, the aim of a mill deck is to attack another player's library and ultimately force a player to run out of cards so they are unable to draw and lose the match.

Mind Sculpt is an example of a sorcery that forces a player to mill cards.

Milling also allows a player to exploit a large number of cards entering the grave yard, Undead Alchemist is an example of this as its effect causes creatures to be exiled and token zombies to be created.

Milling is not to be confused with Discarding which refers to a player putting cards from their hand into the graveyard, however discarding compliments milling as it leaves an opponent with fewer options to counter the milling strategy.

I've probably missed some of the finer nuances of Milling but this is it in a nut shell, people don't like it because it can be very frustrating to see all your best cards going into the graveyard.

[–]aj7419 1 point2 points ago

As annoying as it is to play against, it is a horrible strategy. Mill has to do 50-some "damage" whereas most decks only have to deal 20. Eldrazi, Elixir of Immortality and similar cards just smack your mill all around and beat into the dirt too.

[–]Itachi0970 5 points6 points ago

A deck designed to get rid of all the cards in the other player's library and win by having them deck out.

[–]HarlequinNight 2 points3 points ago

It gets its name from This Card!, in addition to what everyone said.

[–]silverain13 3 points4 points ago

I'm confused. Is this saying mill decks are bad, or asking for advise on your deck is bad? If the latter, why?

[–]electricfistula 4 points5 points ago

It is the former. Mill is very difficult in constructed play - there aren't a lot of good cards for it, nobody serious about magic plays Mill in standard so you can't get ideas from pros and all the best cards in standard don't support mill - so you'd basically be playing without the best cards in standard.

[–]AffinityForCheese 2 points3 points ago

I have seen quite a few "Help me with my mill deck" posts but very few "Should I include mill as an alternate win condition?" posts. In my opinion if you're playing UB or Esper control it's something you might want to consider. Mostly because Nephalia Drownyard is a thing. I remember a control mirror game or two that I've lost to it. Ghost Quarter is a solution, but kind of risky to maindeck in multiples. For control that doesn't have UB, now that we have M13 I could perhaps see a single Sands of Delirium in the sideboard for rampy control mirrors. I'll admit that if the metagame slants toward aggro even more than it does now you should forget about mill altogether.

[–]electricfistula 0 points1 point ago

Okay, drownyard is a very good counterpoint. In fact, I lost to a deck playing drownyard only about a week ago in competitive standard. I, personally, don't really consider the deck that plays 1 or 2 drownyards as the only mill to be a "mill deck" but rather, a control deck with mill as an alternate and that can be valid play.

[–]Maledicte 2 points3 points ago

Mill is only useful as a combo, unless you actively enjoy losing. I personally enjoyed Leyline of the Void + Helm of the Void. Painter's Servant is easier, but I used to use the first as an alternate wincon in a casual MBC deck I played.

[–]NoctisIncendia 1 point2 points ago

you mean Helm of Obedience, right?

[–]Maledicte 0 points1 point ago

Derp, Helm of the Void is the combo. Thanks.

[–]moose_man 0 points1 point ago

I use mill and heavy removal and I win almost every time with my deck.

[–]Nyghtfire 0 points1 point ago

:) my milling deck seems to go pretty decent.

[–]CtrlC_plus_CtrlV 0 points1 point ago

Fortunately not real. It's from a show called The Class. Funny, but luckily staged

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[–]8986 0 points1 point ago

How is that fortunate??