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It's magic, I ain't gotta explain s***. (imgur.com)
submitted 11 days ago by 4alex6
[–]SplatterSack 48 points49 points50 points 11 days ago
You can swear here. We don't mind.
[–]SolarGoat 10 points11 points12 points 11 days ago
http://i.imgur.com/kPikm.jpg
[–]polarlover 3 points4 points5 points 11 days ago
You know who would mind? The pope. Maybe this is the pope's pr team trying to explain themselves on reddit. Conspiracy.
[–]FrankNStein 2 points3 points4 points 11 days ago
"I have as much authority as the Pope. I just don't have as many people that believe it."
[–]austinisme247 91 points92 points93 points 11 days ago*
Needs more punchline in the title
[–]Quazifuji 4 points5 points6 points 11 days ago
Does it count as the punchline when it's the only line?
[–]Condawg 6 points7 points8 points 11 days ago
Yes. I don't want to read something, click a picture, and then read the same thing. Be creative.
[–]Quazifuji 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I'm not saying it was an good title. Just that it wasn't the punchline.
[–]Condawg 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
If the punchline's not in the title, then there's no joke.
[–]Quazifuji 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
You could say it's the whole joke in the title, not just the punchline, although that doesn't include the picture.
[–]austinisme247 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
hmm .... point taken
[–]RichardPeterJohnson 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Yes.
[–]4alex6[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 days ago
Thanks for the tip, I shall try to come up with something more creative next time :)
[–]Phallic 45 points46 points47 points 11 days ago
Try "This makes me laugh every time" or "Came across this gem while trying to think of generic post titles".
[–]vijrox 7 points8 points9 points 11 days ago
Or "logic level: Christian"
[–]Whores_anus 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Thanks, Phallic!
[–]Tylertc13 -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 days ago
Can I hug you? I'm going to hug you. I'm in tears from laughing.
[–]Part_2 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted? I'm laughing too! Good on you, guys!
[–]4alex6[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 days ago
Thanks! I was in a hurry when I posted this and the only thing that I could think of was the lyrics to the song Magic by Selena Gomez, lol. But I didn't think that would make a good title, or would it have?
[–]RichardPeterJohnson 2 points3 points4 points 11 days ago
"The Pope explains trans-substantiation."
[–]case-o-nuts 16 points17 points18 points 11 days ago
This picture of him looks significantly less evil than average.
[–]4alex6[S] 11 points12 points13 points 11 days ago
what about this one: http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001682303/403463217_evil_pope_answer_6_xlarge.png
or this one: http://realitypod.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Evil-Pope-24102.jpg
[–]case-o-nuts 9 points10 points11 points 11 days ago*
I personally like this one: http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/b9a4f1106e4ef2ca586fe1c8b655a92d.jpg
It's even better for being [apparently] un-photoshopped.
[–]cheese_edifice 5 points6 points7 points 11 days ago
I stared at it for a while and then I did the best I could.
[–]korrok7591 5 points6 points7 points 11 days ago
The Pope is going to haunt my dreams tonight
[–]Zoccihedron -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
Nope, this will
[–]Nyanthrax 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Dude, I watch Doctor Who. You can't scare me!
[–]IrishKing 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Dude, Courage the Cowardly Dog. That's all I have to say.
[–]korrok7591 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Meh, kinda want to cuddle it.
[–]reidhasguitar 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
What the fuck is that, and what the fuck is wrong with you?
[–]AdensApples 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I'm not sure I want to know..
[–]Zoccihedron 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
There is also a game for it.
[–]HebrewHammerTN -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 days ago
He probably was just proud of himself in this one for hiding another child molester and paying off some victim. Or maybe one of the victims killed themselves so the Catholic church didn't have to pay. That could explain his less evil than average look.
[–]SaintDemetrius 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
The ignorance.... it....burns....
[–]HebrewHammerTN -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
Yes it does.
Perhaps not terribly well substantiated
[–]HebrewHammerTN 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago*
Why would I be surprised that they are denying it? Why not grant access to the Vatican documentation.
But here you go for the nitty gritty.
And here for some more specific stories.
Fact of the matter is Joseph Ratzinger was in charge of this for 25 YEARS! He hid molesters and swept thing under the rug, for the "universal good of the church". He is a monster.
Edit: Here is some more reading fo you too.
"For more than 25 years, Ratzinger was personally in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the part of the Vatican responsible for enforcing Catholic canonical law across the world, including on sexual abuse. He is a notorious micro-manager who, it is said, insisted every salient document crossed his desk."
[–]MaddHavikk 4 points5 points6 points 11 days ago
My nigga
[–]polarlover -2 points-1 points0 points 11 days ago
denzel-in-trainingday.jpg
[–]wayndom 2 points3 points4 points 11 days ago
Nothing's as much fun as looking at a meme after you've already read the whole joke in the title...
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Oh, oh, oh, its magic!
You kno-ho-hoooo
NEVER BELIEVE ITS NOT SO
[–]UltimateHipster 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Don't worry, you can say "shit" in the title and not feel bad about it. No need for censoring.
[–]playfulcyanide 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Looks like Martin Sheen and Steve Jobs' brothers.
[–]Apollo7 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Oh good! More memes.
[–]firstaccounttemp 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Oh wait, magic's evil. We're screwed.
[–]EdmundXXIII 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Yeah. The guy's only written several dozen scholarly works on religion. Let's make fun of him for not bothering to explain anything!
Seriously, atheists?
[–]antonivs 2 points3 points4 points 11 days ago
Have you read any of those works? The problem with theology is that it's almost entirely disconnected from anything most people would recognize as reality. Which is not too surprising, since it's entirely devoted to a fantasy.
[–]wakaba 5 points6 points7 points 11 days ago
"almost entirely disconnected from...... reality" - if I'm not mistaken, part of theology is to actually contest/oppose the traditions a religion has.
[–]antonivs 0 points1 point2 points 10 days ago
If you can point me to some theology which does that in a way that would bring the religion's claims closer to verifiable reality, I'd be most interested. But in my experience, theology is mostly practiced by those with a vested interest in the fantasies their subject deals in.
[–]SaintDemetrius 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
First of all, many of the things issued by the pope are certainly at the level of the average person. Second, even if they weren't, the average person could say the same thing about scientific literature. It isn't garbage just because it won't necessarily come easily to you the first time you read it.
[–]NaChoBizness 4 points5 points6 points 11 days ago*
What defines the validity of a text it is not wether or not it is accessible to the common man.
First of all, many of the things issued by the pope are certainly at the level of the average person.
Do you have an example where he is explaining something "at the level of the average person"?
But in any case, I wasn't making any comment about the level of his work, but rather its connection to reality. I've written more in a reply to EdmundXIII, if you're interested.
Yes, I've read several of them*. As I said, he's written prolifically. I've read 6 of his books. They are not what you might call an "easy" read. Just as with any field, theology has different levels of writing and understanding. Most of them were not written with the average reader in mind. They were aimed at graduate students. Some of the book he's written in the last few years are aimed at the broader audience.
I think a better question is this: Have YOU read any of this books? If not, I suggest you start with "Introduction to Christianity" (published under his birth name, Joseph Ratzinger). If you wish to make specific criticisms of his arguments, I could respect that and we could have an intelligent discussion. If you're making blanket, dismissive statements about books you've never read, why should I give a rat's ass about anything you think or say? How is that any different from Christian fundamentalists who make ridiculous claims about books they've never read? ("Harry Potter" comes to mind, among others.)
And that is really my point. The OP's image implies the stupidity of religion by suggesting that the Pope never bothers to explain anything. That assertion is patently absurd. You want to write a rebuttal of something Pope Benedict actually wrote in one of his books? Go for it! But this line of attack puts you in the same intellectual category is WBC.
*Introduction to Christianity, The Spirit of the Liturgy, Truth and Tolerance, Jesus of Nazareth, Deus Caritas Est, and Salt of the Earth.
[–]antonivs 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
I've read some of Ratzinger's papers. Most of them are good examples of the sort of theology I was referring to - take e.g. "The Holy Spirit as Communio - Concerning the Relationship of Pneumatology and Spirituality in Augustine". Works like this chew the theological cud, they're primarily of relevance to other theologians.
If you wish to make specific criticisms of his arguments
What arguments do you have in mind? Ratzinger is a perfect example of a theologian who uses obfuscation to avoid dealing with obvious questions, and to be able to claim to have reached conclusions after having spewed enough verbiage.
Take, for example, the section entitled "The Rationality of Faith" in "Introduction to Christianity". I defy any rational person to read that and tell me that it is, in fact, even attempting to make a rational case. For example:
"Amen [...] expresses the abandonment of oneself to what we can neither make nor need to make, to the ground of the world as meaning, which first of all discloses to me the freedom to make. Yet what happens here is not a blind surrender to the irrational. On the contrary, it is a movement towards the logos, the ratio, toward meaning and so toward truth itself, for in the final analysis the ground on which man takes his stand cannot possibly be anything else but the truth revealing itself.
"Cannot possibly be anything else"? Perhaps Ratzinger should have taken a few more courses in philosophy instead of theology, if he genuinely thinks this remotely approaches a rational case. But the reality is probably that he's just indulging in rhetoric designed to reinforce the beliefs of those who are already indoctrinated.
This is not explanation, it is propaganda. There's a difference.
[–]EdmundXXIII 1 point2 points3 points 10 days ago
Thank you for such an excellent reply. Let me start by saying this: I appreciate your taking the time to write an intelligent, articulate argument against my position. This is the kind of discussion I often hope for on Reddit, but rarely see. An upvote, good sir.
I'd like to write a response worthy of your time. (No sarcasm.) Would you be willing to provide specific citations for the quotes you offered? I will admit, it's been several years since I read Ratzinger's "Introduction to Christianity," and I'd like to re-read the pertinent sections in context before offering a reply.
The quote I gave is from the section I mentioned, "The Rationality of Faith", which is a section in the first chapter. I don't have a page number handy, but it's not a long section - a few pages, if I recall correctly - so shouldn't be hard to find the quote if you have access to the book.
I wanted to add, re the current post, that I don't think an analysis of Ratzinger's work is necessarily all that relevant. The image is obviously intended as a humorous jab, and to the extent it makes a serious point we'd first have to establish what that point is. It doesn't have to be claiming that Ratzinger specifically has never explained anything.
I suspect many people who have experienced frustration with the Catholic Church's lack of transparency and self-appointed authoritarian position would recognize the kind of charge being leveled by this image. If you require specifics to be articulated, I could come up with a long list, but really it would be nothing new or surprising.
[–]FlintDodo -2 points-1 points0 points 11 days ago
Yeah, and the characters are not even that good.
[–]wakaba 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
You're mistaking it for the Bible. He didn't write another version of the Bible. I've read some, especially during college, and you and the guy above you are getting the upvotes for uneducated reasons.
You seem to have lost the thread. FlintDodo was referring to the characters in the Christian fantasy, which as I pointed out is largely the subject of theology. What I was saying is that theology tends not to provide a useful explanation of anything, because it is devoted to discussion and analysis of a fantasy, and as such is necessarily detached from reality. Ratzinger's work is no exception. For more on this point, see my reply to EdmundXIII.
[–]yogthos 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Until there's some observable evidence to support any of those works, he's just writing about a dragon in his garage .
[–]arcticisland 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
The pope's just sayin'
[–]iCameToTravel 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Heard this in my head with a Brooklyn accent.
[–]omegawolf 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
LOST.
[–]vadergeek 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Seeing this gave me an idea, and I'm starting to think of Joe Quesada as an attempt at making a pope gone horribly wrong.
[–]B0SSARU 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
What if the pope was actually a wizard? Would you guys like him more?
Oh..I can maybe sign up for pope school and tell you guys if I get like a magical scroll or some shiz.
[–]youshouldbereading 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
You can't explain that!
[–]y2k5street 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Anybody else read this in Jay Lenos voice?
[–]suicidemachine 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Now I'm reading it in a German accent.
[–]ENRICOs 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
So that's where Keith Olbermann has been.
[–]ShoesDontFit 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
You put the caption word for word in the title and still got that many up votes? What the fuck, guys.
[–]civiljab 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
LOL funny pic! I'm not atheist but do all atheist believe that all christians believe that there is no such thing as evolution and/or that there is no corrupt people in the chatholic hierachy?
[–]elruary 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I knew John Howard was part of the vatican just fucking knew it.
[–]SPANKxTANK 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
DM's #1 rule.
[–]Quantumfizzix 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
There was one I saw a while ago with rainbows spewing from its hands...
[–]Gunner3210 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
That's definitely Steve Jobs on the left in disguise.
So that's where he went!
[–]dutch010 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
aliens share that vision, too
[–]swearingmoses 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Punchline in title, but at least you didn't say something like "found this gem", "this little guy", or "gonna leave this here"
You chose a lesser of several evils.
[–]blacklisted4life 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
+1 for a picture of the pope that doesn't make children and small dogs cower in fear.
[–]shaunre 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
You're allowed to say shit you fucker
[–]i_jump_wakes 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/046/123/magnets.jpg?1270937748
[–]iamaiamscat 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
That's the first picture of him where he has not looked like a sith lord.
[–]calibrated 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
"Nigga you ain't got to explain shit! I been robbin' mothafuckas since the slave ships! With the same clip!" - Biggie
[–]tr335 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I love it when OP puts the joke in the title!! It's so funny!!!
[–]policies94 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Nothing's as much fun as looking at a meme after you've already read the whole joke in the title.
[–]DragonTycoon 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
WRONG! Magic is considered devilry by the church!
[–]Sodfarm 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
That pastor beside Ratzinger looks like Cheney.
[–]punwasintended 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
When I see the guy on his left and the look he's got on his face, I can't help imagining that he's saying "Gooood, goooooood" in the Emperor's voice
[–]CtrlC_plus_CtrlV 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Original Submission [100%]: MAGIC!
Posted: 10h before this post by Dudekota (fixed by Sybock-)
This comment generated by an automated bot. Is this match wrong?
[–]Airazz 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Here, I fixed it.
[–]4alex6[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 days ago
I never knew that, but I still think this one is funnier.
[–]vuxa 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
I prefer this one myself
[–]herzkolt 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I was about to post this, it's just too damn funny !
[–]wakaba 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
This is one of the reasons why I log in to avoid /r/atheism on my reddit even though I'm not subscribe to any religion.
[–]postguy2 -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
So you take offense to it for no reason?
No, it's pretty tiresome. I subscribed to /r/atheism when people actually discussed things that mattered, not poking fun left and right. You can see the difference here, which I just discovered today, /r/TrueAtheism
[–]TheRPGAddict 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
Shhhhhh. We don't want to lead the masses to ruin that subreddit too.
whoops, sorry about that!
[–]NaChoBizness -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
Psssst, true Scotsman fallacy. Sorry to ruin your "safe place" boys.
And whoever said I take offense on it? By default that's your understanding of my comment, which speaks about how you, by default, perceive things around you. Couldn't I be annoyed, tired, or something else aside from taking offense? :)
[–]seinfan9 1 point2 points3 points 11 days ago
You're either a scientist or a skytheist. If you don't like this subreddit, you are a skytheist. LOGIC'D
Heh, that didn't make sense.
[–]heisenberg90 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
i fuking love this
[–]Iplaythebassoon 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
is that steve jobs next to him?
[–]JacksonFish 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
Guys don't be so hard on the Pope, he just doesn't want to get kicked out of The Alliance of Magicians
[–]Lots42 -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
It would help explain why Emperor Palpatine became pope.
[–]spader1 -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
The guy next to him looks like Will Ferrell.
[–]drmagnanimous 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
I thought it was Cardinal Larry David.
[–]PengooParty -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
Shit, I don't know. Why don't you ask your bible? I didn't read that shit...
[–]postguy2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 days ago
For anybody wondering, this is essentially the theist's logic when it comes to all their philosophical arguments for why a god must exist.
"The universe can't just exist without a creator."
"Then who created the creator?"
"The creator is magic I ain't got to explain that shit."
[–]RonDeGrasseDawtchins 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
That's quite an absurd reduction of theology there. You'd think that someone on /r/atheism should be a little bit more interested in the actual reasoning behind many forms of theism.
"The universe can't just exist without a creator." "Then who created the creator?" "The creator is magic I ain't got to explain that shit."
For a Christian, the question "Who created the creator?" is null. It does not make sense because in their theology, God is eternal. It's the same thing as asking "What's North of the North Pole?" or "What happened before the big bang?"
It upsets me to see this subreddit clogged with childish nonsense such as this. You should have at least an elementary understanding of theology before you go bashing it.
[–]kneejerk 0 points1 point2 points 11 days ago
how do you know nothing happened before the big bang?
The big bang is widely considered to be an event in which time and space came into being.
[–]rebootyourbrainstem -1 points0 points1 point 11 days ago
It's still not an "arguments for why a god must exist", since the statement "the universe did not exist before the big bang, and before the big bang there was nothing" is at least as good an answer as "god is eternal".
For a Christian, the question "Who created the creator?" is null. It does not make sense because in their theology, God is eternal.
Yes, magic. We're just using different words to describe the same thing.
You should have at least an elementary understanding of theology before you go bashing it.
I'm a former Christian of 30 years. I know exactly what Christians believe. Your response did not refute the summation I gave. Christians want to say, "Everything needs a creator, so God did it. God is magic, so I don't need to explain how he exists." Of course they don't actually use the word magic, because they want to avoid acknowledging how silly their belief actually is.
So magic?
It's the same thing as asking "What's North of the North Pole?" or "What happened before the big bang?"
No it is not, that is a grossly false equivalence. First off, the North Pole and the true magnetic North are not the same geographic locations. Also, there are many conjectures in physics that attempt to study and explain what happened before the big bang.
Next.
[–]Sybock- -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 days ago
Nice work cross-posting this Sybock- original to /r/atheism. Shame someone already did.
but that was 10 months ago....when r/atheism probably had less than 10,000 redditors...
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
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