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How I picture Scott Howson and the CBJ front office on a day to day basis (i.imgur.com)

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[–]Readyrock 13 points14 points ago

You know the old saying. You gotta strike while the iron is freezing cold.

[–]whoudini 6 points7 points ago

To be fair, there was no way Nash was coming into training camp next season on the Blue Jackets, everyone knew that and that was to Howson's detriment.

With Nash unrelenting on adding teams to his list, and Sather unrelenting on who he was willing to give up, Howson did what he could. Realistically, the Rangers came out on top, but adding two top-6 forwards (for Columbus, not league-wide), a potential up-and-coming defenseman, and a late-first round pick is not a bad thing.

When you're last in the standings, change for the sake of change can be a good thing.

[–]99whelan99 3 points4 points ago

I think he could of held out on Nash, he doesn't want to be there just as much as they don't want him, the later it gets in to the summer the more likely Nash would have added teams, but this could also back fire on him just as easy.

[–]OMGWTFROFLOL 0 points1 point ago

Its just become popular to hate on Scott Howson now. I find it kind of funny, everyone kept saying bad things about him because he was waiting too long and was asking for too much, but once Nash was finally traded, everybody says that he should have asked for more.

Sometimes I feel like every single action that the Blue Jackets take is put under a microscope and people try to say as many bad things about it as they can, while nobody bothers to criticize equally questionable moves that other teams take.

[–]fatmaninanovercoat 10 points11 points ago

I'm sorry, you said something about analyzing every single action under a microscope? Whats that like, man?

[–]blow_jackson12 5 points6 points ago

This guy fucking gets it, you don't know "analyzing every single action under a microscope" until you've been a Montreal/Toronto fan and lived in those cities.

[–]HandsomeB -1 points0 points ago

The Jackets need only look slightly to the north to see where the majority of central Ohio's scrutiny is directed.

There is a very loyal group of passionate fans here eager for a winner, but for the most part the city has moved on. The team has squandered its goodwill from the frenzied enthusiasm of expansion and the brief flash in the pan that was the playoff year. All they would need is a decent run, second round maybe, and people would be excited again. I'm just not sure if I see it from a Howson lead organization.

I know they've been the laughing stock of the league for a while now, but they've sort of become a joke here in town. It's sad, but when your teams crowning achievement is being swept by a rival in the first round of the playoffs you're bound for ridicule.

TL;DR Fuck Scott Howson.

[–]I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 5 points6 points ago

It's easy to hate him,because it seems like he's a complete and total idiot.

[–]klabob 4 points5 points ago

How is Burke working for you guys?

[–]I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 0 points1 point ago

Better than Howson,thank you.

[–]rockytopreb 2 points3 points ago

Howson took a franchise that had never been to the playoffs to their first berth. Burke's progress in Toronto has consisted of booting Ron Wilson.

[–]I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 2 points3 points ago

Did you see the roster Burke received when he got here?

You should probably take a look and compare to the one we have now.

[–]rockytopreb 2 points3 points ago

Can we do the same with Columbus?

Howson took over a team with no defense, no goaltending, and two productive forwards under age 30. One of those forwards was Zherdev, who doesn't really count. Oh, and no farm system.

Burke has the benefit of being able to say to a free agent, "We're Toronto, and they're not. You can play closer to home, in a hockey market, and continue our tradition." Can Howson do the same?

[–]chrisrobinm 0 points1 point ago

It also took Howson 12 years to get the team to where it is now; a franchise-worst regular season record.

[–]rockytopreb 2 points3 points ago

Howson: so reviled that he's even being blamed for what took place for those seven seasons before he even arrived.

[–]HandsomeB -1 points0 points ago

Indeed, that's why I hate him.

[–]rockytopreb 2 points3 points ago

Reading the opinions of outsider fans is like dealing with a bi-polar woman. She'll goad you into an argument, then start crying when you finally argue with her. She'll insist that you hang up the phone first, then get pissed off when you do.

Funny to think that 6+ months of "derp, Nash sucks he's so overrated never scored 80 points lol" immediately gives way to "that few pieces for RICK NASH?????? This team SUCKS!"

[–]HandsomeB 3 points4 points ago

This maybe closer to the truth.

[–]redux12 5 points6 points ago

I think you're greatly overestimating Howson and the Jackets front office here. That dog looks like he could get shit done.

[–]VasiliiZaytsev 0 points1 point ago

No, seriously. How does Scott Howson still have a job? Mike Milbury would fuck up less.

[–]GeneralPlanet 2 points3 points ago

Let's not get crazy here...

[–]feelingnodefeat 1 point2 points ago

On the one hand, I'm kind of pissed off that he's going to the Rangers on such a one-sided deal. If the Blue Jackets weren't so hung up on stealing both Schenn and Couturier (or maybe it was just one, I don't remember)... they could have gotten a much better deal out of Philly than they did out of the Rangers. In fact, I'm pretty sure they left a Philly deal on the table that was a lot better than the Rangers's deal.

In retrospect though, if we had traded for Nash, the offer-sheet to Weber would have been unlikely. So I can't say I mind too much in the end. It all worked out I suppose.

[–]klabob 1 point2 points ago

Those were just speculation, ti would be interesting to see what other teams offered, but that won't happen. It just seems like Howson was being unrealistic in his return and now the fans are unrealistic for what Nash return should have been.

Basically you have a bad contract, a NTC, a player wanting out, a 59 pts season and he's proven again and again that he can't carry your team. A deal needed to be done and the odds were strongly against Howson.

[–]Zherdev 1 point2 points ago

I am actually glad something was finally done though... now we can slump back to the bottom of the West and let the top teams make fun of each other instead.

[–]sansdeity 2 points3 points ago

Please take that 1st overall pick away from Edmonton. Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, and now Yakupov.

[–]Zherdev 0 points1 point ago

I'm sure Howson will draft the next Patrick Stefan

[–]honestbleeps 1 point2 points ago

While I did laugh, from the sidebar:

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[–]CtrlC_plus_CtrlV -1 points0 points ago

"Hello, yes, I appear to be locked out of all the systems. Could you reset my password please?"

[–]beerbaron7 -2 points-1 points ago

Columbus management may not be the greatest, but it was Nash that screwed over the team, not Scott Howson.

[–]minkus962 3 points4 points ago

Negative, it was Howson.

[–]beerbaron7 2 points3 points ago

how so

he didn't exactly have much leverage in the trade.

[–]99whelan99 0 points1 point ago

well he could have just as easily have said add teams to the trade list or you're staying in columbus.

[–]jjwalla 2 points3 points ago

And then have a player basically not trying at all until he actually gets traded bringing his value down even more?

[–]99whelan99 0 points1 point ago

Yea that the risk that would be involved in going that way it could just as easily just screw even worse then you are now

[–]minkus962 2 points3 points ago

By throwing Nash under the bus last season, starting this whole thing.

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