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How I feel after finally beating Ghetsis Hydreigon after battling it for 15 minutes straight, then realizing he has three pokemon left (i.imgur.com)

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[–]Pkm_Trainer_Noah 29 points30 points ago

I had the same feeling with his Elekross.

I decided to use my Leavanny, thinking it was Water/Electric.

Dat flamethrower.

[–]hydra877 14 points15 points ago

Dat Mold Breaker Dig. My Haxorus laughed on the face of that eel.

[–]TSED 6 points7 points ago

... Dig? Dig?!

[–]hydra877 0 points1 point ago

Earthquake isn't avaliable before the Elite 4. If it did, I'd rape everything with it.

The only way to get Earthquake on BW before the Elite 4 is to use any of the Ground types avaliable. Excadrill learns at 33. FUCKING HARDCORE.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 3 points4 points ago

I faced that against Cynthia in my previous run-through, I faced her too early (lv 60-ish pokemon). I knew it was Electric so I sent out my Stoutland which knew Dig. He was unfortunately slower and was knocked out cold by a Dragon Claw... She continued to slaughter my team one by one after that.

[–]Pkm_Trainer_Noah 19 points20 points ago

Cynthia is hardcore.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 5 points6 points ago

On the top of it, it was the second Dragon Claw, Stoutland had survived the first, and then she laughed as her Eelektross used magnets to soar right past him...

[–]TheFappingGuy18 1 point2 points ago

Bitch be trippin' balls!

[–]lunchboxchronic 0 points1 point ago

I hardly remember this battle, but I think I did good in it, my Pokabu never fainted once when leveling all the way up to 100, and for that, I am thankful that I love fire starters.

[–]nuclearon 13 points14 points ago

My Serperior was able to withstand a few fire blasts from Hydreigon thanks to Light Screen. The main purpose was to put some leech seed. Of course, Serperior fainted, but with Leech Seed in place, it was only a matter of time. Good job Serperior. Good job.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 5 points6 points ago

I got him with a similiar tactic, after frantically using Max Revives in the beginning (the bastard knocked out Reshiram, Leavanny and Haxorus with two critical hits and one Fire Blast), and a desperate attempt to lower its speed with an Electroweb from Galvantula (failed, since Hydreigon was somehow faster...) I finally got my Chandelure out. Hydreigon got the first hit, but she withstood it and used Will-o-Whisp. Hydreigon got burned. I started to use potion after potion as Hydreigons health slowly withered down. Eventually, she got critted and I got out Samurott. I used Max Revive on Reshiram, Samurott got knocked out and and sent out Reshiram to knock Hydreigon out. And I did it. I was extatic, but then I realised Ghetsis had several Pokémon left. I had Reshiram with 64 HP left. He was stupid enough to send out Bisharp though, which I after using a Hyper Potion and two Max Revives 1HKO'd with a Fusion Flare. Then there was Eelektross. It was no match to two Dragon Claws from Haxorus, and I won after doing the same to his Bouffalant.

TL;DR: Ghetsis is a bitch.

[–]mancub92 3 points4 points ago

I ended up using curse with Candelure and then getting hit and healing. It seemed to have an advantage over every one of my team!

[–]Algosaubi[S] 5 points6 points ago

Well it IS a pseudo-legendary. And that it's moveset covers 9 supereffective and it's diverse enough to atleast have a normal hit on ALL types, which with it's high Sp. Att. is good enough. It also has 5 resistances and one immunity, and it's 4 weaknesses (Bug, Fighting, Dragon, Ice) are types hard to acquire by the time you face Ghetsis. Hence, it's the ultimate Pokémon against you by that time.

[–]MonsieurPhork 5 points6 points ago

Bug types are by no means hard to acquire in this game at any point.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 4 points5 points ago

I meant powerful ones, especially moves, without much grinding beforehand. Sorry if I was unclear.

[–]MonsieurPhork 1 point2 points ago

ah i see, iirc you get some early enough that it isn't really grinding, i think. I don't use bug types though, so i'm probably wrong about that :P lol

[–]MasterFortuneHunter 1 point2 points ago

You can easily acquire Zweilous (though worthless) and a Hydreigon by Ghetsis. You also have Beartic and Vanilluxe (Cryogonal's shit). Fighting has Conkelldur and Mienshao, and you're best bet on bug is Leavanny. Thus, you have a plenty opportunity to get the type advantage, but his Hydreigon is a boss, and is scary nonetheless.

[–]TSED 1 point2 points ago

Actually, Ghetsis' hydreigon is hax. You need to grind to level 64 (!!!) to get your own. If you're willing to grind that high up, you don't need a hydreigon anyway.

Beartic will not survive a round with hydreigon. It will be OHKO'd by flame blast (or it will miss - but do you want to gamble on that?). I don't think vanilluxe can match it for speed either, and it's certainly less bulky. If it sets up +speed beforehand, though, maybe.

Conky is your best bet, with some mach punches.

Leavanny's stats are just too low to deal with Ghetsis' haxdreigon. Awful defences + not enough speed + x4 weakness = roasted.

What I personally used, though, was scrafty. High jumped that sucker into the stone age. Admittedly, I had no idea that focus blast was hanging around and was missed by sheer hax. If I went to replay the game, though, I'd be EV training as I went along, and he'd be eaten by haxorus or something.

[–]MasterFortuneHunter 0 points1 point ago

I never said you could get Hydreigon, that's why I didn't use it because my Zweilous wasn't high enough level. I said you could get Zweilous not Hydreigon. I didn't have a huge problem, but don't remember what I used. I know I had Reshiram, which was a mistake since it was underleveled compared to the rest of my team. I had Haxorous, Seismitoad, Vanilluxe, Serperior, Reuniclus, and Krookodile. With that team I didn't really have an issue with him. I think I had Reshiram instead of Reuniclus.

[–]TSED 0 points1 point ago

Reshiram was UNDERleveled?

...

[–]Batty-Koda 0 points1 point ago

You can easily acquire Zweilous (though worthless) and a Hydreigon by Ghetsis.

Then

I never said you could get Hydreigon

lolwut? Come on man, there's a written record of this.

[–]RoshanK 0 points1 point ago

I used my Scrafty to repeatedly brick break him. In general, Scrafty was one of the only reasons I beat the elite four - for the Ghost type he had Crunch, for the Dark types he had brick break, for the Psychic there was crunch again, and the Fighting types Scrafty just had to let my Archeops do the work (with many max revives-damn stone edge!)

[–]Algosaubi[S] -1 points0 points ago

This is why I gave up Scrafty for my second playthrough, too little of a challenge in the Elite 4 :P

Then again, I'm not gonna bash you for using him, Scrafty is a beast and one of my favorites!

[–]RoshanK 0 points1 point ago

I actually didn't know how useful he would be for the Elite 4, I just used him because he is a bad-ass gecko! (I'll never forget my first starter - Treeko)

[–]SgtTinFoil 2 points3 points ago

Get Mienshao, and use Hi jump kick on Hydreigon. Hydreigon has NO chance to survive a Hi Jump kick from base 125 attack from Mienshao, and Mienshao is much faster.

[–]TheLiveDunn 0 points1 point ago

No, fighting types are pretty common in the game beforehand, with Conkeldurr and Meinshao being the best at that point.

[–]FatGuyANALLIttlecoat -1 points0 points ago

I put dragon tail on Zekrom with a dragon gem. Zekrom took the Dragon Pulse and wacked the shit out of Hydreigon. As I faced his next pokemon, I fully restored Zekrom, so when Hydreigon eventually came out again, a second dragon tail fainted him.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 1 point2 points ago

How were you able to do that? You have no time to pause between capturing Zekrom/Reshiram and battling N/Ghetsis... You're talking about BW2, right?

[–]FatGuyANALLIttlecoat 0 points1 point ago

Nope--got demolished by Ghetsis in the first battle, and decided instead of resetting or trying to revive/potion my way through the battle, I'd take the couple of level ups I got, and regroup at the pokémon center.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 1 point2 points ago

Aah, but then it's not totally fair to say you thought that Hydreigon was easy, you had time to figure out a tactic first.

[–]FatGuyANALLIttlecoat 0 points1 point ago

When I beat him in Black I had a Sawk with sturdy and used a single close combat. It was less of an issue than it was with my team in white.

The point is, he is challenging, and it sucks that it is so clearly hacked, but there are some very simple ways to beat him, considering he is weak to ice/fighting/bug/dragon. Just takes some figuring and considering. My Scrafty and Embroar were not in a right state.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 0 points1 point ago

You always have the old Toxic Spikes + Gravity + Sturdy + Endeavor tactic.

I never manage to get a team like that before Ghetsis though.

[–]FatGuyANALLIttlecoat 0 points1 point ago

That seems crazy difficult.

The first time I faced Ghetsis I wasn't sure what to expect and my Sawk was by far my best pokémon. Hydreigon was dark type, so I sent out my fighting type.

I went with a completely different approach to White, where I knew who I wanted on my top six--Sawsbuck, Swanna, Embroar, Krookodile, Haxorus, and Scrafty. I dropped Swanna for Zekrom against N, and had I taught my Krookodile stone edge, I think I would have beaten Hydreigon on the first try.

[–]Algosaubi[S] -1 points0 points ago

Yeah, it's kind of difficult to pull off, but when it works it works so swell you think you hacked the game.

[–]gadok 1 point2 points ago

I rolled most of his pokemon except for Hydreigon the first time I fought him, but the next time I just sent Lilligant and used Quiver Dance 6~ times and rolled his whole team. Fire Blast barely touched me :P

[–]IstheCakeReallyaLie 1 point2 points ago

This, of course, was on a Nuzlocke.

[–]Volkamar 8 points9 points ago

Best way to defeat Ghetsis.

1) Get yourself a Bisharp.
2) Load up on X-Boosting Items.
3) Ghetsis will start with Cofagrigus. Throw Bisharp at him.
4) Since Cofagrigus has Toxic and Psychic, which Bisharp is immune to, and Protect. The only move he can
use against Bisharp is Shadow Ball, which Bisharp will 4x Resist. This will give you ample time and breathing 
space to use as many X-Boosters as you want. Max up Attack, Max up Speed, maybe throw in a Special 
Defence boost just in case you aren't too sure on Shadow Ball occasionally dropping it.
5) Sweep his entire team. Even if a move isn't very effective, chances are, it will still OHKO everything. 
Using Metal Claw, Night Slash and Brick Break/Low Sweep is probably the best way to go. The fourth move 
can be whatever you want.

It is for this reason, and my liking for Bisharp in general as a Pokemon, that Ghetsis was probably the easiest fight in the game for me.

[–]Batty-Koda 0 points1 point ago

Psssh, using items? Why don't you just use a friggin action replay?

note: this comment is meant in jest. I do still find using items to be weird though.

[–]HalfBloodHouse 20 points21 points ago

Am I the only one around here

Who had no trouble with Ghetsis?

Sorry, couldn't resist. He has a cool team, but I guess my Scrafty was primed to take out Hydreigon.

[–]saytoe 0 points1 point ago

Dude, same with my Sawk. He really wasn't that hard.

[–]kbruce4 1 point2 points ago

dude, i didnt realize it at all what was happening with the elite 4 and i beat hydreigon with my boldore and serperior

[–]aradraugfea 1 point2 points ago

My Samurott megahorned it. I crit. Dead Hydreigon. Elekross I just threw Zebstrika at and neutraled to death.

[–]bassman1805 1 point2 points ago

Darmanitan with superpower. 140 base attack, 120 power, super effective. OHKO.

[–]Nate-XzX -1 points0 points ago

Either you somehow miraculously dodged 2-3 focus blasts or you're a liar.

[–]monstercat88 0 points1 point ago

I thought he was pretty easy too...

[–]RogueNinja 7 points8 points ago

Did people really find his Hydregion that hard? I mean, I OHKOed that thing...

[–]Algosaubi[S] 17 points18 points ago

http://i.imgur.com/WiKxV.gif

[–]IstheCakeReallyaLie 9 points10 points ago

*throne of Fighting types

[–]jacobii 7 points8 points ago

*Throne of insane grinding

[–]IstheCakeReallyaLie 1 point2 points ago

...So you can have your own Hydre'...?

[–]LupusOk -2 points-1 points ago

*throne of LvL 100 event Arceus (at least that's how I did it.)

[–]studmuffffffin 0 points1 point ago

There's no way you could one hit KO that hydreigon unless your pokemon was level 65 or higher.

[–]bassman1805 1 point2 points ago

I did it with a lvl 50 darmanitan, using superpower.

[–]hydra877 -1 points0 points ago

Wrong. My Brother one-hit it with a Icicle Crash. His Beartic survived a Icicle Crash with 9 out of 176 HP.

[–]hydra877 4 points5 points ago

*Throne of Volcaronas

[–]RogueNinja 5 points6 points ago

You just need to choose the superior water type starter. (Insert one of the many applicable condescending Gary GIFs here.)

[–]Algosaubi[S] 1 point2 points ago

I had Samurott though, but I don't see how that will influence the outcome of that match.

[–]RogueNinja 0 points1 point ago

Easy, Ice Beam/Megahorn. If you have a fighting type that works too. Hell fighting type is good against three of his Pokemon then you need a standard Ghost/Dark move and a ground move that deals with all his Pokemon except Palpitoad, which really isn't a threat.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 2 points3 points ago

Ice Beam isn't obtainable before Ghetsis though, neither is Mega Horn, or am I totally out of my mind?

I don't usually train fighting types though, but I guess that's my own fault.

[–]RogueNinja 1 point2 points ago

Derp sorry meant Blizzard (I replaced it with Ice Beam) and Samurott learns Megahorn when it evolves, it's a surprisingly useful move. Also you should at least have one Pokemon with at least one fighting move.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 0 points1 point ago

It doesn't learn it when it evolves, but it can "re-learn" it though. I didn't know that... Thanks for enlightning me for future escapades!

[–]RogueNinja 0 points1 point ago

no prob XD.

[–]neptunium 0 points1 point ago

Always worth checking out what level 1 moves your evolved starters can get by taking a visit to the move relearner. Got to love Megahorn Samurott. :)

[–]Mokinko 0 points1 point ago

Yeah me too, I finished his fight in 5 minutes max. That is to say I had all lvl 50 pokes that were EV trained. I only used one Pokemon though.

[–]HBNichols13 2 points3 points ago

Ghetsis was the most annoying trainer in the whole f'n game.

[–]Exoandy 3 points4 points ago

Accelgor + Bug Buzz = OHKO

[–]hydra877 2 points3 points ago

Volcarona. Archeops with Dragon Claw. EV trained on speed Haxorus. Accelgor. Shell Smash Crustle. Mienshao. Sturdy Sawk. Darmanitan with Superpower. A lot of things will OHKO that Hydreigon or take a hit and kill it. Hell, even a Beartic with Icicle Crash. If you're at Lvl. 56 or higher, it's a piece of cake.

Be prepared, because Iris has a Lvl. 57 Hydreigon who is ALWAYS sent first, and Ghetsis still has his Lvl 54 one on BW2.

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[–]bassman1805 2 points3 points ago

I didn't like it my first time, but I started again recently and have really enjoyed it. The best thing, in my opinion, is that the story is actually good in this one. You can actually understand the viewpoint of team plasma to a certain extent. I could never relate to teams rocket/magma/aqua/galactic.

[–]FrenzyWolf18 0 points1 point ago

All I had to do was have my Galvantula use Bug Buzz, and it was knocked out.

[–]Algosaubi[S] 5 points6 points ago

By he time Galvantula learns Bug Buzz it's atleast level 60, though, and then it's not weird that it was knocked out. My Pokémon were lv 48-52.

[–]MasterFortuneHunter 0 points1 point ago

I was either 55 or 60 by the time I hit E4. I just trained on Audino's until I thought I was strong enough.

[–]Jeffreymark 2 points3 points ago

My Leavanny's X-Scissor was pretty helpful.

[–]averyisavillian 2 points3 points ago

I just used my haxorus that i grinded up to level 78, i took it out with a duel chop

[–]esw116 0 points1 point ago

I did it with a few 50's and high 40's. None of my party could take more than one hit from it at the time. And I certainly couldn't do enough to kill it before it killed me (it also has decent speed, and since it was about 4-5 levels higher than my whole party, outsped pretty much all of us). So, using my BEASTLY Haxxorus, I just used a strategy of guessing when he'd pull out Hydreigon, and used Haxx one round prior so I could use dragon dance. One dragon dance was good enough to be faster than his Hydreigon, which I could one-shot with a Haxx dragon claw.

Epic fight. So epic that I bred a Hydreigon soon after. :D Double dragon double whammy.

[–]LukeBullfrog 1 point2 points ago

I decided to keep horn drill on my Excadrill while fighting the elite four,N and Ghetsis. I did not find his Hydreigon very hard :P

[–]Implafy -1 points0 points ago

When I beat his Hydreigon with my Munchlax it was a real suprise. At first I was using him has a deathfather and when he took hit after hit after hit like a boss, I couldn't just let him die I had win with him alive and I did.

[–]hajjr 0 points1 point ago

All of my pokemon were weak against the elite four, so when i beat ghetis my pokemon were on level 60. I didnt even use zekrom...

[–]steelbot8000 1 point2 points ago

I'm dreading this battle in Blaze Black. Team set up in the spoiler.

Ghetsis' team is all level 75. His set up doesn't look so bad until the end: Drapion, Dusknoir, Elektross, Gyarados, Hydregion, and... Genesect.

Fuck.

[–]Chimerathon 1 point2 points ago

Myeh, I just pokesav'd my team up to the appropriate level for the elite four/N/Ghetsis. The level curve is fucked up at the end of Blaze Black and Volt White, and it's really not worth mindlessly grinding Audinos just to be on a level playing field with the crazy ass teams at the end of the hack.

[–]steelbot8000 0 points1 point ago

I didn't think about that. I was already having problems with this playthrough because of some shitty choices in my team, I buckled and decided to level up a Garchomp because of the difficulty I was having (I try to avoid using legendaries and pseudos).

The stars of my team are Garchomp, Starmie, and Primeape (Defiant is unbelievable), my Luxray's really hit and miss most of the time, Gigalith just doesn't cut it anymore, and it seems every trainer I come across has something to take out my Vespiquen, despite her awesome defenses. Some trainers I have no problems with, despite the level differences I run into sometime, and others I get steam rolled, especially in gyms.

I heavily underestimated Brycen's team, and had a hell of a time beating his Hail + Blizzard sweepers. I decided to just grind Primeape until he learned Close Combat, sacrificed Garchomp and Gigalith at the beginning for Sandstorm and Stealth Rock (Garchomp ate his Glaceon's Blizzaard while Gigalith's Sturdy saved him, and Abomasnow's Focus Punch missed Gigalith), and just barely squeezed by at the end thanks to a lucky crit from Luxray's Crunch on his last Pokemon, his Froslass.

I dread to see what I have to deal with next. I was curious and looked at Ghetsis' team, not looking forward to that Hydregion and Genesect, but I haven't checked anyone else's roster. If it gets to the point where I have to adjust levels, then so be it, but I won't make it too easy for me. I just want to avoid grinding...

[–]Chimerathon 0 points1 point ago

You know what, I was actually thinking of Pitch Black and Pure White for some reason when I replied, but I'd probably have ended up pokesaving levels for the Blaze/Volt hacks too from the sounds of it, if I hadn't forgotten to finish them. I actually started out thinking I was going to Nuzlocke Blaze/Volt, but I of course found that's not at all practical, and switched to a normal style playthrough using the team I had stumbled upon. Turned out that there wasn't good enough synergy in the team, and being too stubborn to change it, I just sorta wandered off to other things.

[–]hydra877 -1 points0 points ago

Genesect? OH NO

[–]Ealdwine 1 point2 points ago

Ah, this fight. I think I ended up fighting Hydreigon last. Needless to say it demolished most of my team, even though I dented its health severely.

Then it happened. Braviary. 3/4 HP, no revives. I thought he couldn't take a Dragon Pulse...

I was mistaken. 1HP and Braviary takes off to the skies. Now, I have an history of Fly missing at the most critical moments so I braced myself for that... Nope, it hits. Those seconds when I saw Hydreigon's HP drop lasted forever. I had used Fly against it earlier and it hadn't done much damage. So here I am, for the third time awaiting my incoming loss.

Critical hit. Ghetsis can't handle Freedom's awesomeness and is therefor defeated. For once I got a much needed crit. Felt good, man.

[–]Chicoramero 0 points1 point ago

I got fed up and just used my Arceus.

[–]aradraugfea 1 point2 points ago

Am I the only one that didn't have that big of a problem with Ghetsis?

[–]trickster936 0 points1 point ago

Same thing for me except that I had my Stoutland out. So I used Roar on it and ended up beating Hydreigon last

[–]Arxl 0 points1 point ago

Lucario with Dragon pulse, it held Brightpowder and dammit I was lucky.

[–]anibal1223 0 points1 point ago

Fifteem minutes of DEEEEEENIISSS.

Jesus christ, how horrifying....

[–]LordFlatFoot 0 points1 point ago

Am I the only one here that had no problem beating it? :P

[–]bladgrim 1 point2 points ago

Nope. If I remember correctly, I just had a Dragon Dance Haxorus that dealt with it easily.

[–]Workr 0 points1 point ago

I usually don't use bug pokemon but this time I picked up Accelgor, and am I glad I did.

[–]Lord_Retardus 0 points1 point ago

I swept his team until I hit the Hydreigon, where it turned the tables on me multiple times until I came up with a new strategy.

Samurott uses Megahorn (note: Samurott is slower than Hydreigon. This will be important), takes out half its health, dies next turn and is revived to deal the finishing blow.

Of course, it was when I finally knew how to take care of it that it got a crit and I had to try again.

[–]jourdone 0 points1 point ago

Took me 6 tries to beat him!!! SIX

[–]FrankReshman 0 points1 point ago

As someone who has never played B/W, 15 minutes??? Sweet baby Moses!

[–]BossLlamaofDerpyLand 0 points1 point ago

I swept Ghetsis and his entire team with Excadrill 3 swords dances and everything fell from there

[–]RoshanK 0 points1 point ago

I'm not trying to gloat, but I didn't experience any real problems with Ghetsis's team! Sure, I found him a little bit difficult, but I beat him on my first try with a team of pokemon in the high level 40s, with one Scrafty that was level 50.

[–]ThtAznDomination 0 points1 point ago

This is how i felt... In Black 2...

[–]TEEHEEman 0 points1 point ago

I forgot who Ghetsis Hydreigon belongs too, can someone remind me?

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