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[–]elclark94 134 points135 points ago

I'll just say that every time Bane spoke, I felt uneasy. Amazing acting.

[–]iCespedes 24 points25 points ago

Oh man. It was like an evil Sean Connery. Gave me goosebumps.

Furthermore: I felt that the court scene with Scarecrow as judge would have been a fantastic scene for the Joker.

[–]elclark94 7 points8 points ago

I never thought of that! Not to belittle Scarecrow but that would have been an amazing part for the Joker!!

[–]iCespedes 10 points11 points ago

Oh man! Imagine the Joker on top of his mountain of desks as he smacks one of his insane asylum lackeys away from his mallet/ off his desk. laughs gets really serious than asks Gordon which sentence he prefers.

Gordon: "You're mad! We are not walking out onto that river!"

Joker: cocks his head darts his eyes back and forth for a second in thought "Than death! .... By exile. Neexxt!!"

[–]Allisonaxe 7 points8 points ago

you just made me sad about heath ledger's death all over again. :-(

also would like to add that I imagine him licking his lips disgustingly in the space between the words "death" and "by exile."

[–]iCespedes 1 point2 points ago

The Joker would thrive in that shit!

[–]LAC1987 4 points5 points ago

Same.

"Death, or Exile?"

"Death."

"Alright. Death by exile!" Insert Joker laugh

[–]Fhajad 50 points51 points ago

The first time I heard his voice, I was kinda shocked in "what the fuck" how menacing it sounded. The whole first scene with him left me with this overall feeling of him being this super cunning villain with resources at his disposal. Also overall charismatic and able to convince people what they were doing was worth the lives by telling the one guy to stay and die, and the dude didn't give a shit and willingly went with it, as long as it furthered the goal.

[–]elclark94 34 points35 points ago

Yup. His voice gave me more and more of an uneasy feeling as the movie went on. Because, when I heard it, I knew Batman was in for a gruesome beating or something terrible was about to happen. The tunnel catwalk scene when Batman first tried to stop Bane was so hard to watch. I was cringing the entire time. He definitely lived up to the joker, but in a different way, a more upfront "I'm big and powerful" way. I loved him as a villain

[–]MustyMustang 21 points22 points ago

What really made me cringe was when that guy punched Bruce's spine back into him

[–]crackergoboom 16 points17 points ago

Just to add: that was the iconic scene of the comic when Bane broke Batman's back. Definitely cringe-worthy in the movie.

[–]Worried_Sloth 14 points15 points ago

I think he means the bit in the prison when the old man punches bruce in the spine, before putting him into the rope loop so he can stand.

[–]Megawatts19 5 points6 points ago

That scene was the highlight of the movie for me. The absolute physical (and more importantly) psychological beat down Bane delivers to Batman is simply terrifying!

[–]Ramentime 7 points8 points ago

Just wondering, was either of those thing possible? For a vertebrae to pop out of the skin of the back and then to be punched back inside the skin

[–]Toscaboy 4 points5 points ago

I didn't pay too much close attention to things like that but I'm assuming that he meant it was out of place and could be seen as a point on the skin not actually breaking it, if that's the case then I'm pretty sure it can be pushed back into place.

I also asked a radiographer in my family and apparently it would be seen as a revolutionary medical breakthrough to heal a broken back in 5 months as well as his messed up leg being held in place by that small casing:/ bit of a shame it wasn't a slightly longer storyline to account for that but meh, he's the batman, he can take it like a champ.

[–]tg2387 1 point2 points ago

How did he get that messed up leg anyway?

[–]Starman72 6 points7 points ago

From the fall at the end of The Dark Knight. In the last scene you can see him limping as he tries to make it to the batpod while the cops and their dogs are closing in on him.

[–]Danielthebeastibarra 1 point2 points ago

As recently graduated medical student,yes it is very possible.

[–]fnordcircle 2 points3 points ago

I loved how it was silent save for the sounds of speaking, breathing and fighting. No soundtrack playing, no sounds from the other inmates just Bane and Batman. Fantastic.

[–]LAC1987 2 points3 points ago

The lack of music during that scene made it even more painful. The henchmen were silent. There was no music in the background. The only sound was Batman being broken, blow by blow, until Bane finished him.

Powerful stuff.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

The whole first scene with him left me with this overall feeling of him being this super cunning villain with resources at his disposal.

Yeah, I think the first scene gives you the impression, "This guy is what Batman would be if he was a ruthless criminal with no respect for human life, and also a small personal army."

[–]LAC1987 1 point2 points ago

I hated his voice the first time I heard it, but it grew on me. Loved the movie.

[–]oRyan_the_Hunter 1 point2 points ago

Same, I thought it was hilarious. huge dude with a high pitched british accent? But it all worked out

[–]LacksRethics 8 points9 points ago

I loved that his voice cut through all the other sound.

Flying through a broken airplane with the air roaring through?

NO. YOU HEAR MY VOICE.

[–]TheTorch 1 point2 points ago

His voice brought me joy as he sounded like that mad scientist/virtual little girl from Fallout 3.

[–]thechapattack 25 points26 points ago

Its apples and oranges. Joker is a different character type than Bane. For what its worth i think Hardy pulled off Bane fucking perfect, I just happen to think the character of Joker is better since its Batman's main antagonist. However comparing the two is wrong Bane is the exact opposite to Joker. He is better than Batman physically, just as smart, and a calculating/ cold motherfucker. Joker is unpredictable, chaotic, and insane. Both actors portrayed their respective characters flawlessly

[–]dabezian 212 points213 points ago

The Joker was pure chaos. You never understand him. That's the whole point. Heath Ledger captured that perfectly.

Bane represents pain. He tortures Batman/Bruce Wayne both physically and mentally. He is the one who can defeat Batman. Tom Hardy portrayed his brutal spirit very well. You can just tell that his motivation isn't just to win, but to completely destroy. He isn't a very complicated character. In his own words, he is Gotham's reckoning. He raises the stakes for Batman to "kill or be killed." The Joker never could do that. Bane was the end of the line and the perfect villain for the last film.

That being said, I refuse to compare the two characters out of respect for both Tom Hardy and Heath Ledger. They were given two different tasks and both accomplished them extraordinarily well. Hardy expressed emotion with his eyes and 2/3rds of his forehead. Fuck me if that's not good acting.

[–]Sorry_Sorry_Everyone 55 points56 points ago

One thing I thought that was fantastic about Bane was the way he talked about despair. He said it wasn't true despair without a little false hope. The whole time you have a hope/faith that Batman will come through. Finally, during the fight when Bane breaks Batman, you realize there's no way he can win. Never before in the Batman movies does all hope seem so lost.

[–]agod2486 37 points38 points ago

To add to this, during that fight, I noticed that there was absolutely NO backing music. Just Bane's monologue and their guttural yells. It made the whole scene stand out even more because you knew that no matter how hard Batman fought (remember how he tells Alfred that if he encounters a dangerous enemy he'll just fight harder and pull through as he always has?) there is no way he'll win.

That scene was amazing, along with the last ~2 minutes of the movie.

[–]Megawatts19 18 points19 points ago

"Ah, I wondered which would break first...your spirit or your body."

That line was so chilling, followed by the subsequent actions of that scene. That line was when I realized,"Holy shit, Bane isn't fucking around!"

[–]LAC1987 2 points3 points ago

Also worth noting is when he was fucking around.

He let Batman hit him, in the face, over and over and over.

Just to show that he could take it.

[–]Megawatts19 2 points3 points ago

Yup, like,"Here, I'll let you think you're close to my skill level, then I'll utterly crush you."

[–]MarkFluffalo 2 points3 points ago

this exactly matches bane's ideology of creating false hope

[–]CaptinCrunchies 26 points27 points ago

I do think that Bane was a far more thought-out character than the joker. His story was much more rich but I think the Joker, as you said, was an incredibly crazy and exciting villain. Not sure who I like more..

[–]E_L_Fudge 14 points15 points ago

I think that is what made the Joker all the more terrifying, the fact that no one knew anything about him. "Some people just want to watch the world burn"

[–]j-hermann 6 points7 points ago

That's kind of what he professed ("I'm an agent of chaos", "I'm not a schemer", etc) but if you look at his actions in TDK he was actually very methodical in his attempt to break down the rules of order and turn people against each other. The ferry gambit was a scheme of unprecedented complexity, requiring a lot of things to work perfectly in order to be effective - hardly chaotic at all. The Joker was almost an entirely orderly character, albeit one whose goal was utter destruction of the order of society. Contradictory, but compelling.

[–]Vault101badass 4 points5 points ago

The Joker has said that he likes his past to be multiple choice. He tells rachel and the drug lords 2 different stories about his scars, thats the point. He lies and decieves people. Its just how he is.

[–]Reservoiren 1 point2 points ago

A man with several PHDs can still be a boring person. It just depends on what bar you're judging by I guess.

[–]Coxswaim25 0 points1 point ago

I agree completely. The Joker was fun to watch as what crazy shit will he do next? I was actually a little scared every time Bane was on screen. Tom Hardy did an excellent job.

[–]SirDelirium 198 points199 points ago

Tom Hardy gave him a run for his money, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

[–]dec7td 2 points3 points ago

I just wish I could have seen his mouth when he was talking.

[–]Safi_Hasani 2 points3 points ago

They had to re dub his voice. It would look plain weird.

[–]LussyPicker12 11 points12 points ago

I don't know about him giving Heath a "run for his money." Heath Ledger totally carried that whole movie while batman was bland, and now Bane is nowhere near the Joker. The Joker was charismatic, Bane was not. The Joker was comical jet frightening and made every second with him in the frame totally intriguing. Bane is frightening, but could have easily been a secondary character like he was in the older Batman series. The same couldn't be said about Heath and the Joker. he could have had his own freaking movie without Batman entirely.

[–]glarbung 23 points24 points ago

This has nothing to do with Hardy. The Joker is Batman's arch-nemesis. He is the flipside of the coin. There is no way - without reinventing the characters - to make any villain better than the Joker. Heath Ledger did a perfect Joker, Hardy did a perfect Bane. Joker is half of what makes Batman so great and it's a damn shame they couldn't use him in TDKR.

[–]_Mattman_ 7 points8 points ago

Exactly... the Joker is Batman's foil. Bane is more like Batman's match. He is everything that made Batman who he is, but even more intensely so.

[–]XtremelyNiceRedditor 3 points4 points ago

the joker was better than bane? no shit. you can say the same for the comics, and tv shows.

[–]corporaterightsmvmnt -1 points0 points ago

Yes, I was left wanting more out of TDKR, no, I don't blame Hardy. Or any of the actors. They all played their roles very well. The things I saw as problematic were all based on the writing and concepts. Anne Hathaway had too many cheesy one-liners and there was simply too much going on in the story. The epic breaking of the Bat felt forced. The introduction of Robin was done well but at a strange time, the end of the movie and the trilogy. And then I got a very what a twist! vibe at the end that, while unexpected, seemed unnecessary or perhaps again forced. Alfred and Fox's lines were rather boring. I don't think this was a bad movie I think this was a bad last movie. What I saw was an overwhelming response to overwhelming pressure to top Heath Ledger. Essentially, the bar is too damn high.

TL;DR TDKR should have been the second film.

[–]RD_Is_Best_Pony 17 points18 points ago

Alfred may not have gotten the best of lines in this film, but damn, his delivery gave me goosebumps.

[–]j-hermann 1 point2 points ago

Agreed, but it seemed like every time he appeared on screen he we t straight into choking-back-tears mode. Not as varied a performance from Michael Cain as in TDK.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

I agree that the bar was high, and it would make almost any followup seem sub-par. I think my overall complaint is similar to yours. Except I wouldn't complain that everything was forced so much as everything was rushed.

Even though the movie was long, I think it was six hours or more of plot compressed into 3.5 hours of movie. Given that they had to introduce a ton of new characters and have so many different things happen, Nolan wasn't able to have the whole thing feel like a character-driven story that was progressing organically.

There should have been more development of the romance between Miranda and Bruce. There should have been more development of the friendship between Blake and Bruce. I mean, did Bruce talk to him more than 3 times before handing over the keys to the cave?

I feel like they could have turned it into 2 movies, the first one as a sort of cliffhanger with Bruce and Gotham at their lowest point. The second movie could have been about the recovery/redemption.

[–]HSZombie 16 points17 points ago

[If it isn't already obvious by this thread, massive SPOILERS ahead]

See I didn't see it all that forced. The relationship with Miranda didn't need to be drawn out any more than it was because it really was a spur of the moment situation as she was trying to seduce Bruce to get what she wanted and Bruce was simply in over his head being back in the game after so long, as was brought up over and over by both Alfred and Fox during his reclusive state. No need for it to draw out as any implied "relationship is simply that, implied.

There wasn't any real time to develop a relationship with Blake, given that Bane had already begun his attack well before anyone had known or could have expected, so Bruce had to act on instinct. He didn't have many people he could trust and Blake, right off the bat, showed Bruce he had balls to confront him and was likely trust-worthy, not unlike his complete trust for Gordon. Also given Bruce Wayne's consistent habit throughout all of Batman's history of researching everyone he comes in contact with, it goes without saying that he probably did a bit of snooping on Blake just to be sure. Again, not necessarily needed for the film. And being that Blake proved himself again and again throughout the film only justified that he'd take the reigns of Batman after the "death" of Bruce Wayne.

Bane's introduction and story was the obvious central plot and was delivered well as someone who'd been working behind the scenes for years without a Batman around. I didn't feel rushed throughout the entirety of the film as everything just made sense. Granted I went in knowing all the new characters' original backstories and understanding a lot of the implied instances so maybe I'm more apt to feel that the pacing was done well. To split it into two movies would just be overkill.

edit: a word

[–]DualFury 4 points5 points ago

Exactly. There was too much going on. Cramming 5 months of plot into less than an hour.

[–]E_L_Fudge 11 points12 points ago

I never felt the worry and urgency for gotham that I felt in TDK for this very reason. 5 months of anarchy passed with such a short time that the chaos and anarchy was never well established.

[–]j-hermann 5 points6 points ago

Definitely. The city is returned to the power of the people, and they... stack up some desks, shout a bit and otherwise get on with their lives same as before.

[–]lord_huggington 39 points40 points ago

The Joker was intriguing, in a kind of grotesque way - he was chilling, because he was unpredictable. but Hardy's portrayal of Bane really impressed me - I had my standards set high, but in every scene he just seemed like a constant threat. just this monstrous presence

[–]Rancid47 15 points16 points ago

The way I explained it was this. Whenever Bane was on screen, you could tell shit was about to go down. He was always a constant threat, whereas Batman could man handle Joker with ease.

[–]TSOD 9 points10 points ago

I described it as "you almost want to be on that guy's side".

He's so convincing, calculated, and you almost want to think "just give up Batman" whenever they fight. Scary as hell.

[–]Danominator 4 points5 points ago

Batman could physically take the Joker with ease but he still brought a lot of tension whenever he was in a scene. You never knew what he was going to do. For example when he was in arrested and being held in jail, I was nervous that whole time because who knows what the Joker has planned.

[–]UncleCotillion 5 points6 points ago

from a cinematic perspective, that was an incredibly well shot scene. The lighting, the positioning of the actors, the sound (or perhaps the lack or dulling of sound)...everything was designed to give you this deep immersive sense of unease in what should have been an uplifting moment for the protagonists of the movie.

[–]maxswildrumpus 46 points47 points ago

Heath Ledger was perfect in TDK. I get that. But every time Bane gave a speech I was in awe. The voice combined with with what he was saying gave me the chills throughout the movie.

[–]terrascal 9 points10 points ago

Catwoman's ass on the Bat-Bike. That is all.

[–]Aspel 19 points20 points ago

I loved it. I loved this one even more than the last one.

I feel like it was better because of the bigger cast, and the way that the story wasn't so much Batman as it was Gotham. Well, Johnny Blaze, and fuck, I love JGL. I can't wait for Looper. Also, Minor spoilers, but not really anything big

I don't know how people not in the know feel about the twist, and I have no idea how Bruce walked from China to Gotham, but I really loved it. And Tom Hardy was amazing with so little to work with. I mean, he would have been chewing the scenery if his mouth wasn't covered by a giant rebreather. Even then, Gordon-Levitt was great himself, and hell, Michael Caine's entire job in the movie was to make me want to cry. But nothing Michael Caine does can make me cry as much as knowing he was in Car's 2. I love the way Nolan brought in all those elements of the comics, from Knightfall and No Man's Land, even feeling a bit of Arkham City in there, with them dragging back Cillian Murphy in his ragged suit in place of Two Face. I love how he incorporated the League of Shadows into Bane's background, and giving him more depth, even if in the end he doesn't have all that much backstory. I mean, the movie had it's flaws, and all the super BAT TECH is always somewhat ridiculous to me, but I loved it. Plus, the last ten minutes was, like, the best of any Batman movie ever.

Also? Not to spoil anything, but I don't care how uplifting that movie is, Gotham is fucked. It wishes it had to deal with 9/11 and Katrina. They'd be better off. That whole fucking city is going to have PTSD.

[–]agod2486 11 points12 points ago

SPOILER

When Michael Caine cried at Wayne's funeral, it brought tears to my eyes. Poor Alfred D-;

[–]Aspel 8 points9 points ago

And then at the end, it was so touching.

But seriously, everything Alfred said was made to make you feel sad.

[–]Krypt0night 1 point2 points ago

tears came to my eyes so fast

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

even feeling a bit of Arkham City in there, with them dragging back Cillian Murphy in his ragged suit in place of Two Face.

That was the part that made me think, sadly, "If only the Joker could make an appearance somewhere."

[–]JediMasterEvan5 38 points39 points ago

Why does everything Batman related always get compared to Heath Ledger...?

[–]EasilyRemember 69 points70 points ago

Because he died. As offensive as that may be to some people, the answer really is that simple. Ledger was great as the joker, sure, but his performance gets praised more than it rightly should. Hardy did a very good job with Bane, certainly good enough to be worthy of being a villain in Nolan's batman universe. I'd say his performance is on par with Ledger's.

[–]belleayreski2 25 points26 points ago

It was definitely on par with it. I think they completely nailed Bane's voice. I got chills every time he spoke. What I think Ledger captured that Hardy did not was the complete bat shit insanity in his character.

[–]digitalmofo 27 points28 points ago

They are different characters, though. Ledger did the Joker perfectly, but I thought Hardy did Bane perfectly. Hathaway also did a bang-up job. Any one of them is worthy of being Oscar nominated, if not winning. Michael Cane, too.

[–]mrsambo99 9 points10 points ago

Definitely Micheal Caine too. Half the scenes he was in I would get teary-eyed.

[–]Megawatts19 3 points4 points ago

SPOILERS!!!!

The scene where he tells Bruce what he did to Rachel's note...Damn it was hard not to get teary-eyed during that one.

[–]Heelincal 2 points3 points ago

Any time that man teared up I was on the edge of bawling like a baby.

[–]digitalmofo 1 point2 points ago

Hell yeah, me too!

[–]Heelincal 5 points6 points ago

Exactly. Joker is supposed to be chaos. Bane is supposed to be calculated pain that is cruel in it's indifference. Catwoman is supposed to be a mystery who lives in the grey area. All of those key qualities were displayed perfectly in the movies. Bane was unsettling at how heartless he was. Joker was unsettling in the "wtf is he gonna do next" way. Catwoman was confusing because you don't know whether she's good or bad, even by the end of the film.

And Michael Caine nailed Alfred. He's the grounded force, similar to what the average person would be. He's the father figure Bruce never had.

[–]Fhajad 5 points6 points ago

Apparently they didn't make mention once of the Joker in TDKR "out of respect for Heath".

I don't get why a real life person dying makes the whole character of the Joker untalkable. We probably wont see another Joker centered Batman for a long long long time.

[–]JakJakAttacks 13 points14 points ago

To be fair, his death isn't the reason his performance is phenomenal.

[–]DarthHypnotoad 7 points8 points ago

However it is important to acknowledge how many people do let that factor into their judgement of him - best example is Michael Jackson and his death. People will rarely speak negatively of someone who died. Not that I am saying there was anything negative about Ledger's performance, just that I feel Hardy performed Bane incredibly well, and had Ledger not died more people would be torn about who performed better. I am in the severe minority in saying Bane was performed by Hardy just as well as Ledger played the Joker and is just as good a villain as a result, and to me personally a more memorable villain than the Joker. I expect to be downvoted.

[–]Cayluhhh 2 points3 points ago

I totally agree with this. My friends were actually getting a little cutthroat about it, but to me, Bane was just...scarier, I guess? I actually felt nervous when he spoke, always expecting something. I never felt an actual visceral reaction to the Joker, even though I did love the performance. So that just ends up being more memorable to me.

[–]skpkzk2 1 point2 points ago

I think bane hits closer to home than the joker in part because of the writing. The joker is out to prove that we're all savages, something none of us really wants to believe. Bane, however, preaches equality, freedom, and justice, even going so far as to use gordon's own speech. His words dance in our heads because we've heard those words before and at least to an extent wanted to believe them; and that scares the living bajeezus out of us.

[–]DaSpecialist 2 points3 points ago

i agree it seems that people praise heath ledger a lot more since he died, to me all three movies are great and go amazing together.

[–]RD_Is_Best_Pony 1 point2 points ago

I was in love with his portrayal of the joker before I even knew who Heath Ledger was, let alone that he was dead.

[–]glarbung 1 point2 points ago

Because before TDK everything always got compared to Nicholson. Joker is the definitive nemesis of Batman. Every rogue in the rogue's gallery (hell, every comic book villain) gets compared to the Joker (spoiler: no one really stands up to par except maybe Magneto). Ledger's Joker set the bar that everyone needs to beat - but no one probably will until there's a new, yet again well done Joker.

[–]Areeb_11 18 points19 points ago

The First movie IMO, hit the body... the second movie hit the mind, but this one? It hit the soul.

[–]naylord 1 point2 points ago

Hmm.. it felt to me more like mind, then soul then body.

[–]youreatheistwhocares 23 points24 points ago

Tom Hardy definitely brought his performance. Gained 30 lbs of muscle for the role. Look at him in Rocknrolla and compare bodies. I didn't even know it was him (Refused to read anything about the movie). They were each great in their own ways. The Joker had the smarts to play with Batman's head but Bane was able to break him in half. He brought it.

[–]Tafye 16 points17 points ago

My only complaint is that Bane is supposed to be on an equal level of intelligence as the batman. They never really expressed the fact that he WAS very intelligent except maybe the opening scene.

[–]bds165 24 points25 points ago

There is also the scene where he asks the doctor how long it will be before the bomb blows up. The doctor says something along the lines of it will be a few months. Then Bane says 5 months by my calculations. But it is true, they only gave small hints to his intelligence. But I think you could also say how he was always a step ahead of Batman would prove his intelligence.

[–]Carbon_Dirt 8 points9 points ago

I don't think they beat the audience over the head with it, but he did come off as pretty intelligent. Having the foresight to plant all the construction crews, basically break the stock exchange just to gain access to the fusion reactor, the way he sort of governed the criminals in the sewer... I think he still came off as intelligent. And the little part where he listened to the boy singing the anthem and said "lovely voice" wasn't much, but still sent out a little bit of a cultured vibe from someone you wouldn't expect to see it in. I agree that it was downplayed, but his intelligence was still there.

[–]phoenixrawr 6 points7 points ago

(spoilers obviously, in case someone reading hasn't seen TDKR yet)

The thing that got me most were his speeches in the football stadium and in front of the prison. The threat of the nuke sort of opened the path for it in the beginning, but between those two speeches Bane pretty much convinced 12 million people to throw off all civilization and descend into utter chaos. Suddenly people are like "HEY YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT" and grabbing rich people and sentencing them to death for funsies. That was some serious stuff.

[–]youreatheistwhocares 3 points4 points ago

"What a lovely, lovely voice." At least he has some culture and not all raging insanity.

[–]hitbypitch 4 points5 points ago

It was expressed. Literally everything went according to Bane's plan until "you're not supposed to be here..." It'd take a mind on par with Bruce's to execute that level of planning.

[–]konrad9 8 points9 points ago

I was gonna say the music volume was too Damn high.

[–]JGPliskin 8 points9 points ago

I had a hard time hearing dialogue in my theater.

[–]bloodfyr 28 points29 points ago

The beautiful thing about these movies is that in five to ten years...they'll be like the Star Wars trilogy: they'll all blend together and be part of one movie in your consciousness. The flaws of one will be outweighed by the good things another does.

[–]wehopeuchoke 16 points17 points ago

Yeah, I saw that post on reddit a few days ago too.

[–]UhhBrett 1 point2 points ago

Got a link? I missed it.

[–]Saint-Baconator 15 points16 points ago

While Heath's performance was fantastic, there was something about Tom, that made me like Bane more than The Joker. In the end they where both enjoyable to watch.

[–]BrandonToddCarr 4 points5 points ago

I know what you mean. I watched TDK after I got come from the theater and was blown away. Hadn't watched it in awhile. Then watched BB. All fantastic in their own way. But man...TDK is legendary.

[–]iamnotimportant 2 points3 points ago

I... disagree, I feel the Ledger movie was overhyped by his passing, despite his wonderful acting in it, it wasn't as good as people perceived it to be. This movie was much better. Bane > Joker, needs to be said 1000000 more times to get it through people's skulls.

[–]Tier1Rattata 39 points40 points ago

IMO Bane was better than the Joker

[–]PearlHarborDiveBmber 19 points20 points ago

Agree. Weirdly enough, joker made the movie better. Bane made my spine tingle when he spoke. The joker just creeped me out.

[–]Lavernius_Tucker 26 points27 points ago

Bane made my spine tingle

D:

[–]welltheresAbacon 2 points3 points ago

I agree, I kept thinking to myself during the TDKR, Bane would fucking destroy the Joker if they ever met.

[–]Center60 2 points3 points ago

Agreed. He had more of a story, and I was scared of his brute force. Joker was great but a little too random for me.

[–]kelustu 7 points8 points ago

The Joker (played by Heath Ledger) was a better villain (not enemy, just a cinematic villain) than Bane (played by Tom Hardy), but overall I think TDKR was better. I think the story, the gravity of the situation and Batman's journey throughout the movie was just done better in this one.

[–]Srr1995 12 points13 points ago

I think Heath Ledger was better than Tom Hardy but the plot and overall movie TDKR was better than TDK.

[–]DJRD4465 5 points6 points ago

I'm not so sure. The amount of times I've seen a general plot around an energy source that when unstable will become a bomb. That being said, I still really enjoyed the movie anyway.

[–]der1x 3 points4 points ago

In short for me it was.

TDK=Awesome psycho-thriller action.

TDKR=Catharsis

[–]Mattycore 6 points7 points ago

Like that scene with the girl dying in the truck, so fake lol

[–]m_bird13 9 points10 points ago

she might as well said, "i die"

[–]Villain_of_Brandon 1 point2 points ago

Tom Hardy did a great job of Bane, The only reason it wasn't better is because The Joker, is THE villain for the Batman. That is the perfect ending to that trilogy.

[–]RD_Is_Best_Pony 1 point2 points ago

I saw this movie at the midnight premier, and all I can say is I WILL be seeing it a few more times in theater. It was that good.

[–]Abrahemp 1 point2 points ago

Now I'm sad

[–]withagecomesnerdines 1 point2 points ago

Whoa whoa! Wait up guys...we can't praise tom hardy yet. He's not a druggy who overdosed and banged an Olsen twin. Which let's face it, is why everyone flipped shit over ledgers joker role.

[–]ActionJaxson 1 point2 points ago

All I heard was Sean Connery.

[–]ShinChan78 1 point2 points ago

"Just the way your mother liked it, Wayne!"

[–]JustinFromMontebello 1 point2 points ago

Mark Hammil was a much better Joker.

[–]foxyjim99 7 points8 points ago

Is no one going to say it? I will.

If Heath hadn't killed himself, we wouldn't be putting his performance up on this retardedly high pedestal.

Was he GREAT as the Joker? Yes.

Did he ruin all other villains/movies by being so awesome? No

. . . You just think he did because everyone is telling you to.

[–]sweetdrip 3 points4 points ago

That was a risky click, having not seen the movie yet.

[–]LurkMoarMcCluer 5 points6 points ago

why are you in this thread then?

[–]Duskman 2 points3 points ago

This thread is spoiler city, GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

[–]drummer1059 3 points4 points ago

TDKR is better than TDK. Nuff said.

[–]jrbcnchezbrg 1 point2 points ago

Ever think maybe the var set by Reddit and the rest of the internet is just too high? This happens with everything, you overhype it and so it doesnt meet up with your standards.

[–]agod2486 1 point2 points ago

For having to use only his eyes (pretty much), I felt that he did a fantastic job. The cool carribean-ish accent, the voice filter...I really enjoyed it. My favorite parts were his monologue during the first time he fought Batman and when there are tears in his eyes when the ending is being revealed. Chills.

[–]sjtaylor52 0 points1 point ago

My thoughts exactly.

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[–]HolyChessPiece 0 points1 point ago

I was legitimately surprised by Bane in this movie. Tom Hardy was incredible and gave Bane a lot more depth than I thought was going to be done from just watching the trailers. Of course he isn't what the Joker was, but it's kind of difficult to be. Joker is such an iconic character in the series that it just gives him that edge, and Heath Ledger did a fantastic job. All in all, Bane was awesome in TDKR.

[–]drmstcks87 0 points1 point ago

TDK was more about the Joker than it was about Batman. The whole theme of the movie was chaos, and Heath Ledger did one hell of a job supporting that, while Batman merely seemed to act as the opponent of chaos. Bane is definitely less intriguing than the Joker was, but in contrast to TDK, he was the embodiment of someone who could finally defeat batman. The subject of TDKR was Batman, and his ability to overcome his pain and other shortcomings to save a bunch of people who thought he was a criminal anyway. Bane was an excellent villain, with a well executed plan, but the spotlight needed to be on Batman for this movie.

[–]standupstanddown 0 points1 point ago

And Tom Hardy (Bane) definitely raised it. It goes back to the roots of the character, who was actually a decent criminal mind. He was supposed to have Venom IIRC, but it's glossed over here. All I'm saying here is, watch it man (if you haven't yet). All 3 movies are good. All 3.

[–]super86 0 points1 point ago

I really do not understand why people are comparing the performances between Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy. They both played a completely different character and comparing Bane to the Joker is like comparing apples to oranges. They both played their characters well enough to set the standards for the next poor souls who are offered the roles.

If people wanted Tom Hardy to really try and steal the show in the way Heath Ledger did in TDK, then we’re going to be repeating history. I couldn’t stand Batman Forever because it seems like Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey was trying to play their characters like Jack Nicholson’s Joker.

[–]josieisabunny 0 points1 point ago

Sometimes I feel it's like a bad breakup, just remember the good parts and move on.

[–]ClutchPapi34 0 points1 point ago

Bane was a bad motherfucker. Looked like Brock Lesnar with a mask.

[–]lurkforlife 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, Joker made the show, but TDKR was still good. Batman goes to the Avalon of a restaurant. Uh, spoiler.

[–]SwarIs 0 points1 point ago

I think Gary Oldman performance of Gordon's suffering at the beginning of the movie was great. He was forced to praise a lunatic who almost killed his son all for the sake of the people who are willing to persecute the great hope in Gotham, Batman.

[–]WOWNICEONE 0 points1 point ago

I donno. I liked both movies a lot. It's not fair for two reasons:

1) The Joker is one of the most easily recognizable, iconic, and classic bad guys. Everyone loves his unpredictability and the crazy schemes of chaos that he puts batman and Gotham through. Bane is less well known, and a different type of adversary; Hardy's performance was original and very well done.

2) Heath Ledger died, after an awesome film. True, his performance was amazing. But that's not the only thing that made TDK's joker memorable. Nolan had Ledger in a completely unique portrayal of this character, and Nolan deserves some of the credit.

If it weren't for Heath Ledger's death, then his performance as the Joker wouldn't be on this insanely high pedestal. In fact, I flipping loved two-face and was disappointed that he was killed off at the end.

[–]Menace117 0 points1 point ago

The way I felt about it was that Heath Ledger did a better job acting his character, but Bane said cooler things and did cooler things, and for that I like him better.

Also, Bane has been my favorite batman villain for years now

[–]HoneyBadgerDontCare8 0 points1 point ago

Bane is fucking awesome. His voice gave me chills

[–]StevenJamesMoore 0 points1 point ago

It was really good, but c'mon.

[–]fora-mejora 0 points1 point ago

Tom Hardy's Bane definitely didn't match up to Heath Ledger's Joker, but I felt that Bane was an appropriate character for the final movie.

[–]mr_mia_wallace 0 points1 point ago

saw it day of release, yesterday, i think. and I plan on going tomorrow/today(its 2am, so today technically) I cannot wait to see it again

[–]CoyoteStark 0 points1 point ago

Please don't kill me for this, but did Tom Hardy actually talk during the movie or did he just do the motions and a voice over was added later, like a Darth Vader/ James Earl Jones thing?

[–]Henavich 0 points1 point ago

as great as TDKR was, i totally agree. Heath Ledger was an amazing villain, and I just think that TDKR falls short of the previous film.

[–]RedditReid 0 points1 point ago

The new one was INCREDIBLE actually. That being said, if Heath Ledger were to have been in it it would've been even BETTER. So good that it probably would not even be fathomable. Still, the new one was awesome.

[–]stretch_nuts 0 points1 point ago

I can't stand people saying "ledger did the joker perfectly", have you SEEN any other batman movie / show / comic book ever? he was over the top sadistic, 90s animated series joker nailed it. jack nicholson nailed it. heath ledger died after the movie and thats why he gets such high praise...

[–]YouAintGotNoYeezy 0 points1 point ago

Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker was a more sinister character, while Hardy's portrayal was a brutal juggernaut...

[–]ivan-a-tena 0 points1 point ago

KICK IN THE DOOR WAVING THE FOUR FOUR!

[–]ShinDiFire 0 points1 point ago

Joker and Bane were both done perfectly by their respective actors. Instead of directly comparing their performances I'll look at the evil villain factor: Joker terrorized Gotham, Bane turned Gotham upside down. Joker was meant to get in your head, Bane is meant to get in your soul.