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[–]goldgecko4 29 points30 points ago

Actually, I read somewhere that therapists can guide a conversation during a session by doing just this. A therapist that responds while a client is talking guides the conversation based on when he interjects (even if it is a simple "Ah." or "Huh.". Example:

If a client is talking about their family and a therapist says "huh" when the client mentions her mother, this almost always prompts the client to focus more on her mother as part of the conversation.

[–]Breathing_Balls 12 points13 points ago

Huh.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points ago

My mom is a bitch.

[–]iRideDragons 9 points10 points ago

Aha...

[–]thatnerdykid 13 points14 points ago

No really, his mother gave birth to him and 7 other puppies.

[–]speedx5xracer 3 points4 points ago

its true... its one of the active listening techniques they teach clinical students during grad school

[–]MrJake10 2 points3 points ago

Watch Carl Rogers do therapy on Youtube. At first glance it looks like he isn't doing anything. However, active listening, empathic responses, and basically stating what the client has said in a more direct and real but subtle way, is often very powerful. As a therapist myself, this is what I find myself doing most often. And believe it or not, it is freaking hard.

[–]_olando_ 1 point2 points ago

This is true to a degree. It's much more than saying "I see" or "aha" at random. You have to know when and how to interject appropriately. Do it correctly, and you can get the client to think about things they might not have otherwise. Do it incorrectly, and you can basically stop the client from talking about anything.

[–]DrUncle 150 points151 points ago

I'm a therapist and its actually a lonely job. When you're in session you're completely focused on the other person, so its all about them. Then when they leave you're sitting in an empty room with no one to talk to and even if there were, you couldn't share the experience because of confidentiality. AND, we're not all rich. Upside: helping, using your head, learning new things, meeting interesting people, witnessing people getting healthy and grow. Downside: lonely, everyone wants free advice, paperwork, misunderstood . . . like our man Stanley here.

Edit: If people don't want free advice, they sometimes do the opposite and clam up because they think you're analyzing them. I used to try and reassure people that doesn't happen and most of the time it doesn't but sometimes you can't help it. Another occupational hazard is not having an opinion sometimes. You practice being so non-judgmental that when it comes time to judge something you can really see both sides. Just to be clear though, I love my job and wouldn't trade it for the world.

[–]Greyhaven7 82 points83 points ago

How does that make you feel?

[–]fswmacguy 21 points22 points ago

misunderstood

DID I STUTTER?

[–]g2g4m10 1 point2 points ago

Why is there Rush in background?

[–]krl1327 0 points1 point ago

MISSterious

[–]Stubbo 25 points26 points ago

Way to kill the fun outta that one!

[–]Breathing_Balls 13 points14 points ago

The therapist is in need of a therapist. What happens if that therapist treating the therapist, also needs a therapist?

[–]1000hipsterpoints 9 points10 points ago

Sounds like we need an analrapist.

[–]Neker 5 points6 points ago

That's actually how it works. Every therapist has a therapist.

[–]spewin 2 points3 points ago

It's therapists all the way down.

[–]anossov 1 point2 points ago

They just see each other.

[–]YOU_ARE_A_FUCK 16 points17 points ago

Aha...

[–]lolbanmewat 0 points1 point ago

Aha...

[–]lsufreak 5 points6 points ago

CHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]Goreus 0 points1 point ago

Aha...

[–]oppositeofahitman -1 points0 points ago

Oh yeah...

[–]memorex1150 5 points6 points ago

Therapist here as well. One of the great things about working in our field is the opportunity to work with or be supervised by someone who is experienced and is competent. Supervision is an opportunity to develop professionally. You can even bitch/whine/cry/vent to your supervisor. If a supervisor isn't available, one can engage in peer supervision -- not as effective in some instances, but allows for feedback, guidance, structure.

If, however, you're alone as DrUncle stated, it does suck. No one there with whom you can talk.

Rich? Our field? HAH! A huge difference exists in the type of degree you have, and, more importantly, what type of license you hold. Being an M.D./Psychiatrist isn't a guarantee you'll be rich. I've seen psychiatrists who work three or four gigs at once, and they might, if they're lucky, clear $100k/year. On the other side of that, I've seen a psychiatrist who worked his own practice clearing over $300k/year (this is Ohio I'm talking about, not sure about other areas).

I would rather have support/peers than a ton of money in this profession. Wait, I've had peers. I've never been filthy rich. Fuck it, gimme 300k/year.

[–]brock_h 1 point2 points ago

I think you're confusing a psychologist (Ph.D.) and a psychiatrist (M.D. + specialization).

Having an M.D. and being eligible for licensure (e.g. everything is in order and you've not done anything wrong) is one of the safest employment opportunities; unemployment has to be virtually nonexistent barring disability or other circumstance. (Some simple evidence is try doing a Google search for "Unemployment for MDs" or "Unemployment for medical doctors") If you've chosen psychiatry as a specialization, assuming you can't find a job as a psychiatrist (by the way, this is more or less ridiculous to assume), you're still qualified as a doctor of medicine which enables you to fill a large variety of roles. There's a huge shortage of any type physician everywhere. Also, I can't find any statistics for the median income of a psychiatrist being anywhere near $100,000 (it's usually $150,000-200,000), let alone below. A medical resident can make $60-70,000 towards the end of their stay... A psychiatrist in private practice can make half a million or a million a year (adolescent and addiction psychiatry) if they're ambitious enough with a very large practice.

I've seen psychiatrists who work three or four gigs at once, and they might, if they're lucky, clear $100k/year.

I'm calling BS on this. The other options are: the individual has a D.O. and didn't get good residencies, or the individual went to a Caribbean medical school.

[–]diffeomacx 0 points1 point ago

This varies from place to place. Psychologists and MDs exist here, but people who already go to MD shrinks usually have therapy with the same person who checks medication, etc. It's rare to see someone with a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and when that happens it's because they want something more specific, like reichian or lacanian therapy.

[–]brock_h 0 points1 point ago

I find it hard to believe in a normal healthcare setting the psychatrist is providing the majority of therapy. However, in a private practice setting, surely. In the healthcare institutions (large hospitals) I'm familiar with the patient will always see both a psychiatrist and clinical psychologist. The psychiatrist will handle medications, physical examinations, and related tasks (usually with 15 or less minutes of "talking") and the clinical psychologist will handle the in-depth, proper therapy sessions individually, then report to the psychiatrist at a later time who will incorporate that information into his or her treatment schedule. This varies somewhat, but I'm confident enough to say it is norm in most large institutions. In a private practice setting where the psychiatrist is able to appropriately allocate time, it is completely different and can vary immensely.

Regardless, I'm not sure which area you're talking about, but I'm guessing it's rural and the availability of practictioners is low (or the demand for them is also low). You'll remember the majority of work done with a psychiatrist is for more severe mental illnesses... not run of the mill depression (at most, they're usually just supervising/signing off on medication). Most of the "low-level" diagnoses are handled by social workers or masters level therapists.

[–]diffeomacx 0 points1 point ago

I find it hard to believe in a normal healthcare setting the psychatrist is providing the majority of therapy. However, in a private practice setting, surely.

Ah, yeah. I stand corrected. I never really went "through the system", so to speak. My pdoc is actually a researcher, nominally (don't think he's lectured for the past 5 years) an university professor, and sees patients only on mondays.

Regardless, I'm not sure which area you're talking about, but I'm guessing it's rural and the availability of practictioners is low (or the demand for them is also low).

Neither. It's a large city in south america; the contiguous urban area, including juridically separate cities that physically mesh must have about 7-8M people. (Wild guess. It reached 5 when I was a kid.)

You'll remember the majority of work done with a psychiatrist is for more severe mental illnesses

I'd say this talk of "more severe" mental illnesses is slippery in a private practice setting. In a hospital there are cost/benefit analyses that need some standard to go by, but the fact that such standard exists doesn't mean it really applies to the real world -- it's more a reflection of the limitations of the system. (And it's ok that it's limited.)

As far as privately-managed patients go, well, there are cases that require institutionalization or brief but recurrent hospitalizations, but it isn't clear from dx only that a manic-depressive isn't going to require hospitalizations and an institutional nexus in a "healthcare setting", or that a schizophrenic will not just swallow them Risperdals and keep the scary name a secret. Hell, my old pdoc already had a shared practice in another medical specialty when he got depressed enough that he developed psychotic symptoms -- trees talking to him and whatnot -- all while not developing the kind of thought disorders I find common, never having had psychosis. My current pdoc's was actually the old pdoc's pdoc and subsequently mentor. The old pdoc actually had a zesty kind of unipolar depression.

Most of the "low-level" diagnoses are handled by social workers

I'm think your "low-level" diagnoses are what my old pdoc closed shop to work with. Crack addicts, people who keep going back to the streets, old cat ladies, etc. Turns out, these can be medically interesting. Weaning people off hard drugs can be a fascinating pharmacological puzzle; old cat ladies often have animal-born parasites; street dwellers sometimes suffer from dissociative fugues.

Of course, dude's going for the ideals, not the money -- he's arrived to the conclusion that social workers are just trying to reeducate people who have stranger problems.

Full-disclosure: manic-depressive on lithium. On some level I'm harder to manage than your schizophrenic on Seroquel because I have to take blood panels six times a year to check levels and watch my thyroid. Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the most "severe" of all?

[–]brock_h 0 points1 point ago

Neither. It's a large city in south america; the contiguous urban area, including juridically separate cities that physically mesh must have about 7-8M people. (Wild guess. It reached 5 when I was a kid.)

Fair enough. I'm not familiar with this environment.

I'd say this talk of "more severe" mental illnesses is slippery in a private practice setting. I'm think your "low-level" diagnoses are what my old pdoc closed shop to work with.

These weren't meant to be patronizing in any way. I was merely trying to categorize diagnoses axises. An example here for "more severe" would be a paranoid schizophrenic who is violent and a threat to himself or others, and some examples here for "low level" are marriage counseling, mild forms of depression in an otherwise healthy individual, occupational therapy, and life coaching.

Weaning people off hard drugs can be a fascinating pharmacological puzzle.

Addiction psychiatry is an established, and usually additionally lucrative, subspeciality. I'm quite interested in it as well.

Regardless, my point is the majority of work most people want to do can be done without a medical degree, and most of it is. There will of course be outliers, but a medical degree is a long way to go if you're not seeking monetary incentive or the additional responsibilities of a medical professional.

Also, you seem like a good guy and I'm sure you're just as functional of a human being as anyone else.

[–]memorex1150 0 points1 point ago

I'm not confusing the two.

Having an M.D. gives someone a tremendous advantage. However, having an M.D. and specializing doesn't mean someone can run to a different specialization without proper training. Declared scope of competency and expertise is required. If I saw someone last week who claimed to be a specialist in urology but the next week was claiming to be a specialist in podiatry or endocrinology, I'd be highly suspect and would ask for evidence of their new-found specialization. Yes, I understand that having the M.D. opens that field for them -- any medical specialization -- but training is required. I'm a therapist, but I don't declare psychoanalysis or gestalt within my scope of practice. I lack proper training/certification/expertise. My license gives me scope, not ability. Ditto for an M.D.

I'm calling BS on this.

I understand the skepticism. I was taken aback as well when I found out the pay range for some psychiatrists. Again, wielding a degree nowadays doesn't mean squat, even an M.D. You refer to a psychiatrist who is ambitious, in a private and large practice. That's not the norm in every area. A lot of psychiatrists work at state hospitals, community mental health agencies, their own private practice or with a partner (expenses/overhead). I may 'earn' $150,000 per year, but I'm kicking a lot back for office rent, advertising, payroll, and so on. Many factors influence salary.

[–]brock_h 0 points1 point ago

However, having an M.D. and specializing doesn't mean someone can run to a different specialization without proper training.

No need to be patronizing. I understand how the medical speciality system works and I know what is involved.

I think you're misunderstanding my point. I never said being a medical doctor qualifies you as a specialist, or any specialist for that matter. That's not even intuitive. I'm saying having an M.D. gives you a fundamental baseline for capability and also job availability. Just like a J.D. (even though the J.D. is completely diluted these days) or in some cases an M.B.A. (even more diluted), it's not an immediate ticket to financial security or a reliable job, but you're literally head and neck above everyone else. You're more or less working within a different job market. It usually works for an individual, but I suppose for certain reasons it could also work against them - specifically, if they're wanting to spend more time vacationing, with family, or etc.

I was taken aback as well when I found out the pay range for some psychiatrists. Again, wielding a degree nowadays doesn't mean squat, even an M.D.

I'm still disagreeing. Anecdotal evidence is one thing, and I'll give you you may know someone who is falling on hard times in the job market, but this is not indicitive of anything I've heard or have seen in the statistics. Where I live, median income for a psychiatrist with no speciality is $200K, and I've not personally met any who are struggling anywhere near $100K unless, like I said, they're working less than full time. I'm not sure if your using new graduates as a reference, but I can't see anyone with experience struggling to make anything under $100K unless they didn't care (e.g. working in community clinics, or non-profits, or what have you) or were working less than full time.

You refer to a psychiatrist who is ambitious, in a private and large practice.

Yes, and I also referred to them in the context of half a million or a million dollar income a year. That's a whole different ball game.

I may 'earn' $150,000 per year, but I'm kicking a lot back for office rent, advertising, payroll, and so on. Many factors influence salary.

Well, at that point it's all good business practices. The sky is the limit depending on what you want , how many patients you're comfortable scheduling, and how many practictioners you have to handle them.

Regardless, all of this is besides the point... I was more wanting to seperate the roles because people get too confused about who's really doing what most of the time.

[–]speedx5xracer 2 points3 points ago

I am also a therapist and I can definitely agree with this... the ungodly amount of paperwork insurance companies and medicaid require for something simple is ridiculous (3 pages of paperwork just to drug test a consumer ) .... thats in addition to session notes and consents.

[–]therestruth 1 point2 points ago

I read that besides the emotional toll it can take on you being a psychologist's biggest drawbacks is insurance and paperwork that many have to learn to deal with or hire somebody else for. I am very strongly considering a degree in psychology and to be a therapist or whatever falls in place really with a decent paycheck. Reading most of this thread is a bit discouraging. Also because I haven't seen it yet... /r/psychology

[–]enmispantalonesroman 1 point2 points ago

even therapists need therapists

[–]theatrekiddo 1 point2 points ago

Gotta disagree about loneliness. As a child therapist, for me, it's almost like babysitting, but analyzing every single move and expression the kid makes. It's quite interesting compared to, say, when I meet with adolescents who take up self mutilation because they didn't get a car for christmas.

[–]DrUncle -1 points0 points ago

If that's why you think they self mutilate I hope you're not working with teens then. I also hope you have some good supervision. If you're NOT interested with who you're working with, that might give you a good clue about what's going on in session.

[–]theatrekiddo 2 points3 points ago

No, that's not an assumption of the cause or rolling my eye to the seriousness of self mutilation cases: that is literally two unrelated cases I've treated. I work with people from a very privileged side of town, and often deal with kids who have emotional crises based off of what most people would consider "seriously and astonishingly first-world problems."

[–]ChoxRox 0 points1 point ago

What do you mean you're not rich? I thought you made like 100k/year?

[–]oooohitsakitty 18 points19 points ago

The amount of money you make with a degree in psychology depends greatly on where you work with it, how high your degree is, your target clientele, etc. If you had a bachelor's (or even a master's) in psych you would definitely not be rolling in money. Unless you just got lucky.

[–]ShamanSTK 8 points9 points ago

If you had a bachelor's (i have never heard of a masters in psych ever being independently held) you wouldn't be practicing psych. You must have a minimum of a PsyD to even begin to make money unless you go the social work route getting clinical licensure, which effectively caps your income well below the rich line no matter what you do.

Source: Me and fiancée both hold psych degrees. I got out of psych in favor of law because of all the things DrUncle said in addition to the market being saturated with psych degrees and my fiancée went the social work route because getting a PsyD was not practical.

Edit: I only said I have never heard of a clinical psychologist working with only a masters degree, anecdotes aside, it remains true that of the thirty plus psychologists I personally know none of them have a masters. I live in Jersey if that's a factor.

[–]seeashbashrun 10 points11 points ago

There are plenty of masters positions, though much less paid. Almost every school psychologist is a masters, not a doctorate. Doctorate holders must be paid more, and thus often the schools cannot afford them. There are also many marriage counselors with only a masters.

While clinicians are more easily recognized as 'psychologists', there are actually many professions available with a masters.

(source: I did neuropsych and am weighing my options as either a clinical neuropsychologist or something with occupational therapy)

[–]victor_eee 0 points1 point ago

Very few school psychologist are at a masters level anymore. In fact, I believe only 2 states still allow practice with only a masters. The minimum required degree is specialist level. A specialist (Ed.S, Psy.S) is 30 credits over a masters. I have heard it explained as a doctorate without the dissertation.

[–]seeashbashrun 0 points1 point ago

Most school psychology programs are only two years long though, and with school budget cuts, many districts can only afford to hire a single psych. I was considering being a school psychologist and did quite a bit of research into it, are you sure that's correct? Because from what I dug up, getting above a masters hurts their chances of being hired. My roommate was also a school psychologist masters student and was getting much the same feedback.

[–]victor_eee 0 points1 point ago

I am sure. I am in the midst of a school psych program and just finished taking a class taught by the next president of NASP (National Association of School Psychologists). Almost every school psych program is 3 years long counting a year long internship. Some are actually four with a full year of practicum. Very few program only offer a masters and if they do, they are not NASP approved.

Graduating from a program that does not meat NASP approval means that you will have a very difficult time getting a job anywhere outside the state where you received your degree.

[–]kbean56 3 points4 points ago

People get master's degrees in psychology (general psychology, counseling psychology, etc.) all the time. In many (all?) states, you can't get licensed unless you have at least your master's degree.

It's true that someone with a master's degree won't earn as much money as a person with a doctorate degree. All things considered, though, a PsyD isn't going to make you much better off, because although you'll be making more, you'll be paying off exorbitant loans for the rest of your life. PhD programs will at least pay your tuition and give you a stipend while you're in school. You also have many more options when you graduate.

Source: I'm a student in a clinical psychology PhD program and work with people with a wide variety of psych-related degrees.

[–]Im_not_a_calzone 0 points1 point ago

As somebody who is about to enter their senior year of high school and is planning on entering the psychology field, but has been too lazy to research about all the different fields and programs, what exactly are the differences between PsyD and PhD programs?

[–]V4refugee 4 points5 points ago

psyD is a bit easier to get into, more practice based, a bit less respected in psychology circles, usually more expensive. A phd is usually more focused on research, pay you while you go to school, harder to get into but are usually in higher demand and more respected.

[–]Im_not_a_calzone 0 points1 point ago

Thank you for clearing that up.

[–]V4refugee 2 points3 points ago

Its a bit more complicated such as the model of the program being research scientist, scientist-practitioner or practitioner-scholar. You should start researching programs but you probably already know more than most undergrads.

[–]kbean56 1 point2 points ago

I second what V4refugee says, and would just like to add the advice: if you want to go into psychology, try to figure out early-ish in your college career what you'd like to be able to do with your degree (e.g., practice, teach, research), because that will help you tailor your undergraduate experience to increase your chances of getting into grad school (e.g., if you know you want to go the research/PhD program route, make sure you work in a research lab as an undergrad). I wish I'd been told that earlier!

[–]Im_not_a_calzone 0 points1 point ago

I know that I want to either go down the clinical route, or I want to research. But the decision largely depends on what I'll be doing, how much money I'll earn, and how likely it is I'll get a job. So if you wouldn't mind answering, what exactly does the research route entail and how does it stack up with money and job availability? Would I just be basically researching the human mind and how it works?

[–]paranode 0 points1 point ago

In addition to the other comment, many (not all) PsyD programs are at for-profit schools that let almost anyone in and will cost you upwards of six figures.

[–]kbean56 0 points1 point ago

Yes, absolutely. There are some (and by "some" I mean I can think of three off the top of my head) great PsyD programs out there, but there are many, many more for-profit diploma mills that are for some reason allowed to give out doctorate degrees. (Can you tell how I feel about this?)

[–]Killer_Tomato 0 points1 point ago

you can practice therapy with a masters but you need to be overseen by a psyd or a phd. You just have to get your license and a place that is willing to let you practice with a masters. Its actually pretty good if you go clinical psych with a masters cause then you get to do testing and are more sought after cause you are cheaper in the short term. Source my wife has a masters in clincal psych from Rosemead and now does tests on autistic teens and children.

[–]shmaltz_herring 2 points3 points ago

There are 8 states that let you get licensed to practice independently with a masters in psychology. I'm lucky enough to live in one of those states.

[–]speedx5xracer 0 points1 point ago

also there are other degrees that allow you to practice as a therapist not just a Masters in psych or a psyD. In my state you could also practice with an MSW assuming you pass the licensing process just as if you has a MA in psych.

[–]The_Real_Baldero 0 points1 point ago

Came here to say something similar. I'm not sure about the number of states that allow master's level counselors to operate independently, but they definitely exist.

[–]ericaciliaris 0 points1 point ago

Not true, I work with a ton of mft's who ate overseen by a lcsw (this in California) the laws vary state to state and country to country

[–]ericaciliaris 0 points1 point ago

I don't believe it's recognized in jersey but in other states many people have masters in clinical psych and become marriage and family therapists (mft's)

[–]ChoxRox 0 points1 point ago

I was thinking of those with PhDs. I heard on the lower end you make 100k.

[–]theatrekiddo 1 point2 points ago

When I first got my PsyD, I spent four years in Sydney, Australia making $99/hour as a life coach / developmental counselor at a private high school.

Then I met a Huntsman Spider and (among other reasons) decided to come back to the states. Managed to save a lot of money up though.

[–]ChoxRox 0 points1 point ago

Did you get your PsyD in America? I'm an Aussie citizen looking to get my PhD in America, but I get the impression that I could not practice back in Australia. What's your story?

EDIT: Why did you get your PsyD instead of PhD? Did you not like the research aspect? Also, would you say a PsyD instead of a PhD held you back? Or maybe pushed you further forward? Thanks =)

[–]theatrekiddo 1 point2 points ago

PsyD's tend to transfer well amongst states and countries, but do have some disadvantages like pay differences. I did have to undergo some extra training in Australia because there are some process differences, and with a PsyD, I practiced under a PhD's supervision.

I do often contribute to PhD's research but I do not have the time to conduct research of my own. I wanted to have the ability teach Psychology at a High school or post-secondary level, but also practice child developmental psychology. The lowest level degree I needed to do all of this was PsyD because I wanted to jump into the workforce quickly.

I work at a private practice and make fairly good money. I was lucky to find what I did though. I would highly recommend a PhD for general psych if that's what you want to do. If you want to get out of school and into lower level practice, go for the PsyD.

[–]ChoxRox 0 points1 point ago

Great, thanks for answering my questions! I considered a PsyD for a while, but it seems like a PhD is a better idea for a more solid job (as in, I would not be working under the supervision of someone else), even though it takes forever to get.

[–]theatrekiddo 0 points1 point ago

Definitely both are great options depending solely on what type of job you want. I like a ton of flexibility with my career. I like to move a lot. If I had a PhD, I could still do this, but it would be more difficult if, say, I opened my own practice or worked for a university or research development.

It ultimately comes down to "what do you want; how do you get it?"

[–]Johnny182 1 point2 points ago

100k / year doesn't necessarily qualify anyone as rich and certainly wouldn't help in some of the larger metropolitan areas of the country.

[–]paranode 0 points1 point ago

Also if an independent clinician brings in 100k/yr, that's before the office lease, insurance billing, liability insurance, staff salaries, and various other overhead involved.

Sometimes the best gigs end up being seemingly-underpaid government work since you avoid practically all of those costs.

[–]LivingLeper 0 points1 point ago

It completely depends on who you're working with. If you really want to help people, you have to lower your pay a lot. The psychologists who are rich are the ones who gather around at lodges where all the celebrities go for drug rehab. If you want to work with the common person though, it's likely you won't make that much money.

[–]tuutruk 0 points1 point ago

Hey doc, I'm wondering if you could tell me if I should be worried about this growth just below my armpit. I'll send you pictures.

[–]MrJake10 0 points1 point ago

I am glad you said this. I am a therapist who recently graduated and began working in the field. While I've been seeing clients for over two years, I often think about and am still adjusting to how alone of a position it is. Not only are you not really allowed to talk about experiences, but other people typically have little to no understanding of what therapy is and what a therapist does.

[–]TreeMiner 0 points1 point ago

I read your name as DrPhil.

[–]diffeomacx 0 points1 point ago

Then when they leave you're sitting in an empty room

I usually have sessions at my therapist's latest time. His bus is on the way to mine, so we leave the place together and squawk about philosophy, the arts and scientific news for 10-15 minutes. He's an entirely different person outside the office -- I see him warmly greeting goth chicks out when he has a kind of bitter disdain for the world, politics, the backwards-ass scientific establishment in Brazil and so on.

(I know, transference and counter-transf. At least he's old enough not to admire me, my old pdoc at one point asked me for advice about what to do about his alimony battle. And I'm an economist, not a lawyer. I didn't leave him, he closed up shop to focus on his clinic in a poor neighbourhood -- apparently getting people off crack makes him happy. Current pdoc was old pdoc's pdoc at some point, and a mentor throughout med school -- he's seen so much, he's not easily impressed.)

[–]omnicious 0 points1 point ago

Would you mind tracing out the path to becoming a therapist?

[–]DrUncle 0 points1 point ago

First, get a job doing something that pays very well and you hate to the very core of your soul. Then, make efforts to like this despised job by taking related classes so that you might understand it better and therefore like it better and hate (and fail) those classes. Show up late everyday and stare at the clock waiting for lunch, then quitting time. Then staring out the window one day, realize ,"there's got to be more to life than this." Then start volunteering to get a sense that you are actually contributing something worthwhile. That will lead to taking classes that actually interest you. There, you will overhear classmates talking about an opening at a psych hospital. Then comes the hard part: decide whether or not to abandon a sure thing that will pay twice as much for a career that not one of your friends or family know anything about. Work at the psych hospital and see what mental health is really all about. Witness things you'll read about later in books. Get your bachelors degree and a new job consummate with that education. Note: you will be poor. Be a sponge and absorb everything - volunteer to learn more. There you will be eventually be encouraged to go get you Master's and you'll start to believe you actually can do this thing you never imagined. Once in your Master's program you will get arrogant because your experience will have given you more knowledge than all your classmates. Note: you will be super poor. After graduating, take the first job you can land. After falling back to earth and realizing you don't know shit, work there till you get your licence. Most of important step of all: FIND A GOOD CLINICAL SUPERVISOR. That is your make or break moment, that is where you'll actually start to learn what the f you're doing. Keep at it, never stop educating yourself, maybe get into therapy yourself, keep going to supervision and after 15 years you'll finally be as good as you thought you were 15 years ago. It's extremely rewarding and the work you do will last on this earth long after you've passed.

TL;DR: volunteer, educate yourself every step of the way, get a good clinical supervisor, practice, practice, practice.

[–]forgotusername -1 points0 points ago

If there was a therapist for therapists, would you be able to tell them about your patients without breaking confidentiality? Meta.

[–]MrJake10 1 point2 points ago

There are therapists who specialize in working with other therapists. Many therapists seek out help when they feel they need it. Gotta buy what ya sale. And I'm sure you are joking but just in case, no. No you still cannot break confidentiality.

[–]V4refugee 0 points1 point ago

Only if you don't make it obvious who it is or identify them personally. Either that or you and your therapist both work with the same client.

[–]I-B-TROLLIN -2 points-1 points ago

no offense, but every time I see therapist written out I see the_rapist. sorry for pointing it out to people because you will never unsee it

[–]DrUncle 0 points1 point ago

That is hilarious. I've never heard of anyone making that connection before! OMG! I can't wait to tell my other therapist friends. No, my other the rapists friends. I can't stop laughing.

[–]Barrel-rider 25 points26 points ago

I don't recall Stanley ever saying this. Which episode is this from?

[–]_olando_ 4 points5 points ago

I think this discussion was had when this was exact same thing was posted about a month ago...If I remember correctly, the answer was it was not in any episode.

[–]MEXICAN_PRAWN 7 points8 points ago

Shhhh, you're ruining OP's karma tactic. He has this template saved and adds any text to it he wants. Don't foil him!

[–]agapose 7 points8 points ago

Which episode is this from?

[–]ryanw21 3 points4 points ago

I'm not sure 'Aha' is best used here.

[–]spagnitz 2 points3 points ago

or be a prostitute and say oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!, give me 200 dollars

[–]helium_farts 0 points1 point ago

I see you think rather highly of yourself.

[–]Not_A_Hipster_ 1 point2 points ago

The Office used to be such a good show.

[–]DavidLambent 1 point2 points ago

Have you lost your mind? Call Stanley Hudson, he'll help ya' find it.

[–]terra7incognita 1 point2 points ago

I'd love to be a redditor just sittin there, repost, repost, hmm repost... give me 2000 karma

[–]celfers 1 point2 points ago

Two hundred?

But I only gots three fiddy.

[–]astroblack 2 points3 points ago

making stupid shit like these comics? sounds like an awful job.

[–]daltrock4 0 points1 point ago

Prostitutes do the same thing, except for more money.

[–]slapshot11790 -1 points0 points ago

Ill take the rapists for $400

[–]BoernerMan 0 points1 point ago

the rapist... cannot unsee

[–]papercutscrotum -5 points-4 points ago

I know a gguy who was a therapist AND an analyst, the world's first analrapist !

[–]TheMightySpork -2 points-1 points ago

Hmmm. This story could fit just as well if we removed "the" from "therapist" but left everything else the same.

[–]Decyde -2 points-1 points ago

Because it's not easy sitting there and doing crossword puzzles all day.

[–]Punkrocker333 -1 points0 points ago

Are reposts against the rules here?

[–]cartooncorpse -1 points0 points ago

I want a job, in a remote area with internet access, keeping an eye out for Godzilla. The rest of the time (all), I can reddit, or whatever. The government funds all sorts of stupid shit, why not this? It should have a pension too.

[–]mjethwani -2 points-1 points ago

I thought you were "the rapist" and all you had to do was ahaaa