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I think sometimes news organisations forget how old Greece is (i.imgur.com)
submitted 2 months ago by twelfthmillion
[–]MAKE_THIS_POLITICAL 74 points75 points76 points 2 months ago*
It's generally considered, when talking about the current economic crisis, to be talking about modern Greece, the country created after the 1821 independance war. I don't think there is anyone comparing the current crisis to the plague of Athens in 430bc.
[–]Greecemouxlas21 61 points62 points63 points 2 months ago
still ...Greece has defaulted 5 times since ...plus war of independence, lost war to the turks, first balkan, second balkan war, first world war, asia minor dissaster, depression, second world war, civil war and a dictatorship ...
[–]United Statespotatohead10 49 points50 points51 points 2 months ago
...and a football loss today against Germany. I hope things get better for you...
[–]IrelandIndurkin 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
oh did I cheer when they equalised tho :P
[–]CanadaChicken2nite 10 points11 points12 points 2 months ago
I would argue that people could draw parallels to the economic crisis regarding debt upon your person leading up to the reforms of Solon in 594 BCE.
The previous constitution written by Draco had allowed people to use as collateral you becoming the slave of the creditor, with your oath being paramount, hence the term Draconian.
The conundrum of debtor farmers going broke and the means of production being consolidated on too few a number of hands who farmed it with slave labor from insolvent debtor farmers was as well abolished through limiting the amount of land you could own by how much you could work with a modest crew, effectively mandating against too big to fail organizations from existing as well as the greater income disparity
[–]EnglandSnoron 22 points23 points24 points 2 months ago
It says "one of"... clearly it means one of like 500 :)
[–]Cataloniarogerology -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago
Indeed, 500 crisis since 1821, when modern Greece was created, a country which has hardly anything to do with ancient Greece.
[–]MAKE_THIS_POLITICAL 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Hmm? The modern greek language is obviously directly descended from ancient greek (with a mix of italian, turkish and others for good measure), and most of the area that's regarded as "ancient Greece" is covered by the current borders (pelloponese, athens, macedonia (vergina), the cyclades and crete). I'd say thats a pretty strong contender for at least some kind of connection.
[–]86Mitso -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 months ago
besides culture, music, theater, dance, literature, philosophy, education being centered around ancient greece etc
The real main difference that seperates modern to ancient greeks is the religion, thats why ancient greeks are so romanticized even in greece, they followed crazy thunder gods and had secret cave temples to hades and orgys at aphrodites temples
I honestly wish we kept that religion, it would of made for a very interesting modern greece.
[–]FrieslandFrisianDude 20 points21 points22 points 2 months ago
I think it's a bit silly to group all previous Greeces in modern Greece. Unless the defeat of Julius Civilis counts as a Dutch military defeat. Which it don't.
[–]United Statesvanostran 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Can't we still pretend?
[–]ItalyAnrai85 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
minime
[–]Belgiummajestic7 15 points16 points17 points 2 months ago
Before 1821 there was no such thing as the Greece we know today. Sure, GREEKS existed, but Greece as a state is relatively new as they lived (mainly) in the Ottoman and Byzantine/Roman empires. Before that is a different story entirely, but that Greece hardly has much to do with the current one.
[–]suspiciously_calm 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
I think sometimes nitpickers forget how the term "crisis" is generally used. Nobody would refer to a war or an invasion as a mere "crisis."
[–]Jaang 5 points6 points7 points 2 months ago
1383-1385 Crisis
;)
[–]Croatiafilip_latinovicz 5 points6 points7 points 2 months ago*
I like how they all have such a casual facial expressions. Stabbing, butchering, killing ... oh well, just another day at the job.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Batalha_de_Aljubarrota.jpg
[–]suspiciously_calm 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
I stand corrected.
[–]Canadasmacksaw 10 points11 points12 points 2 months ago
None of that compares to the Kraken.
[–]Jaang 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
You should just let that go.
[–]Walesmykeana 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Not to mention the Spartan invasion of Athens.
[–]isJohnny 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
crisi?
[–]MAKE_THIS_POLITICAL 8 points9 points10 points 2 months ago
Me pianei crisi?
[–]IrelandCaisLaochach -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
I thought the Greeks were teh Sea People? They fucked up the Egyptians' shit, not the Greeks.
[–]IrelandIndurkin 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVnWxY_pPU0
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