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[–]wombatmacncheese 46 points47 points ago

INVADING WORLD OF DOVAKHIN AS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE.

RETURNING TO WORLD WITH SOUVENIR OF REPRISAL.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 22 points23 points ago

Shouldn't have killed the blacksmith at Riverwood...

[–]wombatmacncheese 38 points39 points ago

It is only human to commit a sin…

Kyehehehehehehehehe!

[–]Rufdog2 4 points5 points ago

3 dragons at once managed that for me, and the rest of the town too.

[–]Killm360 8 points9 points ago

13hours to the game yet im still at Undead Parish D:

[–]knighmare 9 points10 points ago

you are gonna love blight town

[–]IAMBollock 15 points16 points ago

Fuck that shitty, poisonous, frame-rate eating, fire breathing, arrow sniping shithole.

[–]dbubes 5 points6 points ago

i feel like they added the broken frame-rate on purpose

just to make that area even more soul-raping

[–]wombatmacncheese 5 points6 points ago

Imagine trying to go through Blighttown without knowing about the sewer bonfire by the elevator. I made my way through nearly the entire area every time i challenged the boss and died. Thank God for iron flesh. I discovered the bonfire my second playthrough...

[–]IAMBollock 1 point2 points ago

That sucks, it can happen in quite few places in that game. Like the one over the ledge just after you get out of the bastard parts of Sen's fortress and have to fight the Golems.

I spent the first 30 hours of my first playthrough not knowing that there was a lock on feature... those little treasure bugs gave me an incredible amount of grief.

[–]Killm360 1 point2 points ago

I hate those ghouls , anyway im just going in circles in darksouls im already in the drake valley BUT

  • 1st-i can't kill the freaking giant zombie dragon
  • 2nd- even though im LVL21 im still weak even though i have the drake sword
  • 3rd- i can't go far in the ghost enemies even though i can cursed myself to harm them and
  • 4th- i freaking made a huge mistake i chose the class bandit dammit.

i love the game but i can't play it, because i don't know where to go exactly D:

[–]Scrial 2 points3 points ago

You can shoot the zombie dragon with a bow from afar and he wont do anything. Takes about 400 arrows though so have fun.

[–]Killm360 2 points3 points ago

oh i forgot i killed the 1ST merchant in the game so i don't know where to buy some arrows and a bow.

[–]da_homonculus 2 points3 points ago

  1. Pyromancy works well, as do firebombs, and yeah arrows. Buy them at almost any blacksmith.
  2. The drake sword can only take you so far. Get a normal weapon with attribute scaling to whatever stat you're working on and it will quickly overtake the drake sword.
  3. Yeah, you'll want to come back to them. There's a blacksmith down there that does magic weapons, though he doesn't sell arrows.
  4. Doesn't really matter what your class is. By Lvl 21, you've probably changed the stats enough to be whatever you want it to be.

The Drake Valley doesn't have anything in it, really. Its just a path to the back end of Blighttown. The "front" is down through the Depths, which is past the Lower Burg. If you haven't been there yet, thats where you should go and build some levels/equipment.

[–]Killm360 1 point2 points ago

thanks dude i'll do this :D

[–]DominantWalrus 2 points3 points ago

bandit can be a great class if ya know what you're doing. but if you really need some advice head on over to /r/darksouls they'll help ya out :)

[–]Killm360 0 points1 point ago

Thanks dude :D thanks guys now im exited to play darksouls again and finish the game :D

[–]DominantWalrus 1 point2 points ago

praise the sun and all that good stuff haha. dont be afraid to ask for help, and good luck to ya

[–]Killm360 1 point2 points ago

Thanks dude :D

[–]knighmare 1 point2 points ago

the class doesnt matter much, the drake sword is bad id recomend finding a new weapon depending on your stats there are 2 early game weapons that are great, the zweiheinder in the firelink graveyard and the uchigatana from the undead merchant in the burg (you do have to kill him) you are kind of going the wrong way, technically you can do the areas in any order but new londo is meant as a later game zone

[–]Killm360 0 points1 point ago

I got the uchigatana already but i can't equipped it yet my strength is low enough.

[–]knighmare 0 points1 point ago

its great for dex builds

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 1 point2 points ago

Cough Master Key Cough

[–]Omnix_NerZ 4 points5 points ago

Once you get used to the game it really isn't all that hard.

[–]wombatmacncheese 6 points7 points ago

Hard has never been the right word to describe the game, a better word is dangerous. Even the low level enemies are still capable of doing significant damage if you aren't careful. The flip side to the danger is all of the built in game mechanics to defend or avoid the danger.

[–]Omnix_NerZ 2 points3 points ago

This is definitely a better way of describing the game.

[–]wombatmacncheese 1 point2 points ago

That's about right, try placing a white soapstone marker so you can be summoned, good way to earn exp and get knowledge of the area without the pressure of dieing and losing all your souls.

[–]Killm360 0 points1 point ago

where should i get this "Soapstone" which you speak of?

[–]wombatmacncheese 1 point2 points ago

Hmmm, oh shoot. You actually get it right after the undead burg it seems. :/ Well, i just farmed and leveled up my strength till i was a bit more competent, and could use maybe some beefier weapons.

[–]Killm360 0 points1 point ago

Is it really powerful?

[–]wombatmacncheese 0 points1 point ago

Who, the boss of the area?

[–]Killm360 0 points1 point ago

the uchigatana dude

[–]wombatmacncheese 0 points1 point ago

Yes, use that, or the bastard sword, or maybe a battlle axe if you are lucky enough to get one. Depends on your specializations. I was a knight from the start, really fun and easy to play. Health & Strength, with maybe a bit above average stamina.

[–]Overlord_Danzo 60 points61 points ago

and praise the sun!

[–]war_story_guy 21 points22 points ago

\o/

[–]Prockzed 3 points4 points ago

This just gave this emoticon a much better meaning for me. :D

[–]pezcore2552 1 point2 points ago

Best emoticon ever

[–]skytro 12 points13 points ago

Praise the Sun!

[–]Zempie 4 points5 points ago

[–]Jetpack123 5 points6 points ago

that was horrifying

[–]bandananaan 1 point2 points ago

[–]GreyouTT 0 points1 point ago

Well that was a mindfuck.

[–]VonKressenstein 10 points11 points ago

Sunbro's for life.

[–]pezcore2552 3 points4 points ago

Praise the Sun, fellow Sunbro!

[–]CinLordOfGwynders 0 points1 point ago

\o/

[–]achancesw 6 points7 points ago

[–]Whenlifedies 2 points3 points ago

Hm... what is this off of?

[–]meditonsin 1 point2 points ago

I don't recognize that game either.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 28 points29 points ago

If only I can be so grossly incandescent...

[–]PrinceofSpades 5 points6 points ago

JOLLY COOPERATION!!!!!

[–]Vzylexy 1 point2 points ago

I was co-oping with my friends and one of them killed Solaire. I was so pissed.

[–]Raffyuruse 27 points28 points ago

Amazing chest ahead

[–]kn0ck 8 points9 points ago

boobs

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 17 points18 points ago

Gorgeous View

[–]pezcore2552 16 points17 points ago

Seeing a "Gorgeous View Ahead" sign in front of Gwynovere was one of my favorite moments in that game.

[–]LolTacoBell 22 points23 points ago

Be wary of imminent backstabbing.

[–]sehrfine 13 points14 points ago

[–]Munkir 6 points7 points ago

I really need to get Dark Souls

[–]CinLordOfGwynders 0 points1 point ago

Go buy it right now. Be absorbed by it for the next few weeks. Make 7 characters, each after messing up and restarting. Go to NG++++ and further. That, good sir, is dark souls.

[–]agangofeskimos 8 points9 points ago

Try stabbing in the back.

[–]ragingroku 1 point2 points ago

Try tears

[–]ashanev 5 points6 points ago

Umbasa...

[–]pezcore2552 3 points4 points ago

I believe you mean Praise the Sun good sir/madam. This ain't no Boletaria.

[–]PrinceofSpades 3 points4 points ago

You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you.

[–]maybehelp244[!] 7 points8 points ago

--xXFaggotCuntXx is invading--

"shhhh, welcome to dark souls."

[–]michaelfrsumner 16 points17 points ago

It's a repost, but it's a good repost

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

No. No it's not.

[–]danish_hole 1 point2 points ago

It is.

[–]levinathan 1 point2 points ago

I've wondered what the people who play dark/demon souls would think of the monster hunter series. I've played more monster hunter than I have dark souls but it seems that some of the same aspects are present in both games.

[–]Burncoat 3 points4 points ago

I love both. I liked Monster Hunter's "build your armor out of the remains of your enemies" shit and finishing a complete set made me feel like a king. It was a game that rewarded and produced great skill in the players.

Dark Souls and Demon Souls also did the same. Getting a boss soul and crafting a weapon out of it was awesome, even if it wasn't the best weapon for your build or in general. But I liked Monster Hunter's take on it better since there's nothing better than wearing the dead carcass of your enemy while you proceed to murder their entire ecosystem. You could also buy armor that the bosses wore in Dark Souls, but simply buying it after defeating them didn't have the same impact, despite how awesome it is to run around as Smough.

I think more games need Monster Hunter's mechanic, minus the ridiculous drop rates, of course.

[–]Kawaii- 1 point2 points ago

The drop rate is part of what i love about monster hunter. I love the grindy feel of it and how awesome it feels when you get something incredibly rare like a ruby or something.

[–]pezcore2552 0 points1 point ago

I've played a ton of both also, especially MHFU and MHP3. I've also 100% Dark Souls and beaten Demon's Souls a few times. I agree that the mechanics are pretty similar and I'd like to see Capcom take Monster Hunter in the direction of the Souls series in the future. Keep the interesting bosses but add in exploration and other interesting environments/enemies and a continuous plot.

[–]NiteShadeX2 0 points1 point ago

They have their damn Japan only Monster Hunter MMO. I'm not sure how much it expands lore and exploration. I'd love to see them make a full blown RPG, in addition to the current games for PSP.

[–]pezcore2552 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, Monster Hunter Frontier. I haven't played that either, although I played the Chinese knockoff Hunter Blade a little bit. It's not bad but it's basically just Monster Hunter with a cheap WoW framework of quests. Unfortunately it seems like very few future MH games will be coming to the West, with MHP3 still Japan only and MH4 still not announced for the West.

[–]taironias 0 points1 point ago

Wasnt Mh4 announced for 3ds in EU?

[–]pezcore2552 0 points1 point ago

I'm not sure. I'm from America so I usually don't keep up on EU's releases but it's possible.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 0 points1 point ago

I was actually introduced to Dark Souls from a fellow Monster Hunter player. Fell in love with the game, and went to buy Demon's Souls when I finished.

[–]Broken_Envoke 1 point2 points ago

"HERE!" (right next to a cliff)

[–]CinLordOfGwynders 0 points1 point ago

"Great weapon ahead"

[–]Sandvicheater 1 point2 points ago

You forgot to add the panel where an assassin sneaks up on that Knight and does x30 sneak attack damage on him.

[–]Tommer_man 6 points7 points ago

I don't get it, additional features make Skyrim a pussy game? I don't think the Dovahkiin should apologize for not being squished by every damn monster in the game.

[–]adamantmusic 32 points33 points ago

I think you've just explained it to yourself there. Enemies aren't that hard in Skyrim. Enemies are very hard in Dark Souls.

Its not much good having additional features when the base combat mechanics are so simple.

[–]GuyWonderness 1 point2 points ago

I wouldn't say the enemies in Dark Souls are very hard (I've had several play throughs). I'd rather say enemies in Dark Souls just have a resilience to being steam rolled as they do have mechanics that prevent you from pinning them down in the later mobs such as crystal giants and giant skeletons. Also the environment is a factor to the difficulty of some enemies such as Giant's tomb and dog Skeletons.

[–]adamantmusic 0 points1 point ago

This is true, however to someone new to the game they are very hard. I remember my first playthrough, and how I could barely get through Undead Burg.

[–]GuyWonderness 0 points1 point ago

I wrote a longer post further down explaining that it's hard to new people but you're absolutely right. I emphasized how knowledge of the enemy and environment greatly reduce the difficulty of Dark Souls.

[–]Joedang100 3 points4 points ago

If you want things to 1-hit you in Skyrim, just crank up the difficulty setting.

[–]Mursuvaari 10 points11 points ago

Dark Souls is known for punishing you for your mistakes. If you get backstabbed, you definitely deserved it for making a bad attack or not reading your enemy properly. I don't think skyrim's difficulty setting which just changes the amount of blows you have to deliver and blows you can take, will top that. So the combat system in skyrim was quite bad, but good thing it had much else to offer.

[–]NiteShadeX2 3 points4 points ago

Elder Scrolls are not difficult games. They never have been. I started with Daggerfall waaay back when, actually it was a gift. Anyways, the focus is on how much you can do, not how good the combat is. ES games are about a huge open world with an enormous amount of choice, diverse playstyles, and decision making and exploration.

That being said, you can easily sink hundreds of hours into either title.

[–]adamantmusic -1 points0 points ago

I played on the hardest difficulty setting.

[–]Joedang100 3 points4 points ago

You could try making a character that doesn't use healing magic or potions... or building a card tower in a moving car.

[–]studiosupport 13 points14 points ago

Or you could just play a harder game...

A game like Dark Souls...

[–]kapson 0 points1 point ago

I haven't played Dark Souls, but from what I've seen the toughness of the enemies comes from memorizing their patterns. Isn't that the basic ability that all gamers have or should have? I honestly don't know why does this game pass as the hardest game right now. I personally don't see any difficulty in it other than seeing how the enemies act. Then it all comes down to muscle memory. Or am i missing something here?

[–]adamantmusic 31 points32 points ago

With Dark Souls, like anything, practice makes perfect. The difficulty comes from the combat system being so in depth and precise, and the AI having the same constraints that you do. Its hard because it doesn't hold your hand while you progress. There's a basic starting level which has a few combat and movement tips on it, but apart from that the game tells you almost nothing about who you are and what you're meant to do. While this might seem a bit lazy, it actually fits in with the storyline - the world is cold and almost uninhabited, and you are meant to feel alone.

The game is merciless, and when you die it blocks the screen with words telling you so (You died), while showing the enemy that killed you walking back to its normal position on the map as if it didn't care for you. When you die all enemies are reset; if you died at the last mob before a boss then you need to fight through everything you went through from your last checkpoint, and if you die on the way back you lose all of your experience points and currency. This might seem frustrating, and it is, but when you consider what games were like 25 years ago (Metroid, Contra, etc.) it feels more like what gaming was like for many people growing up than what its become these days.

Its an excellent game and its beautiful, in a Shadow of the Colossus kind of way, but its not for everyone.

[–]kapson 7 points8 points ago

So it's more of an oldchool game that isn't afraid to punish you for your mistakes? Also no tutorials? That sound very interesting indeed!

But to be honest, I think games with many variables are more difficult, like multiplayer games. They make you think on your feet.

[–]pezcore2552 10 points11 points ago

There is multiplayer in Dark Souls, both in the form of co-op summonings and PvP invasions. When you see a fog wall suddenly appear and you're alerted to an invader, trust me, you'll be on your feet.

[–]adamantmusic 4 points5 points ago

There is also a pvp aspect to it, where you invade other people's worlds to steal their "souls" (experience and currency) or help them defeat bosses.

[–]yo_karma 3 points4 points ago

There're many variables as well. Every single mini-boss, boss and every single individual enemies have their own unique difficulties. There're enemies who are damn fast and if you face them in mob, they just knock you over and over again (cats, wheelie skeletons). There're enemies who simply deal a lot of damage to you. There are flying enemies. There are enemies who can poison and even wose, curse you. There're some miniboss and boss that can perfect certain move that will pretty much instant kill you and you have to dodge NO MATTER WHAT. Also, there are sections that mess you up because of the positioning and make you fall over to your death(god damn ledge and those bow knights).

The game has many type of dificulties and none of them are the same. Also, even if you know certain boss's pattern and weakness, fighting them is a whole different level. Sometimes, you manage to pull through only by luck and a good trial run and you might not be able to repeat it easily the next NG

[–]dkkc19 1 point2 points ago

I'm not that much of a talented gamer, I usually play on medium difficulty and sometimes push for hard. Would you advise me to buy Demon and Dark Soul? (I never played either) Is there choices of difficulty? Because I'd hate to buy a game that I'd never finish.

And wouldn't I miss on the online features since I'm buying these games long after they've been released?

[–]Omnix_NerZ 0 points1 point ago

I suggest watching Youtube walkthroughs. When I first played I had no idea of where to go and no one does because the game doesn't tell you where to go, so I watched some videos and practiced the fighting mechanics and now even after not playing for months I could play through the entire game knowing where to go off the top of my head.

There aren't difficulties, but it does have NG+ which means that you can replay through the game again and again but enemies will always be stronger with more HP and you keep all your gear. I've gotten past NG+ and been through a lot of NG++. I've also gotten through a lot of the game at level 1, and people have probably beaten NG+++++ on level 1. It just depends on your skill and patience.

TL;DR It probably isn't for casual players, but check out Youtube videos to see for yourself.

P.S. You will not be able to beat anything past the tutorial on level 1 your first time playing.

[–]manwhowasnthere 0 points1 point ago

I bought Dark Souls a few months ago and there is certainly still a community of people playing. You might want to wait until august, since the PC version is being released then.

Also I strongly suggest you use Wiki's to help you along on your first playthrough whenever you have a question or get really stuck. Like Minecraft, there are layers of mechanics that the game never explains and just expects you to figure out. Having an online manual of sorts is helpful.

[–]yo_karma 0 points1 point ago

People are still playing online up to this day for dark soul. The game is still good offline, but you simply have more options to approach bosses with online if you can ask for help. Also, the game can also be more challenging if you are at risk of invasion.

The game is difficult, but not impossible like ninja gaiden where you have to have insane reflex to pull off crazy combo. Dark Soul difficult is about timing and strategy. If you get stuck, there are online guides and i you can take down bosses if you don't make too many mistakes in the fight. You just need to be patient since the game simply punish you for making mistakes rather than being unskillful. The hard punishment for mistakes can be discouraging sometimes though

[–]GuyWonderness 0 points1 point ago

Demon Souls is harder than Dark Souls. Citing from a friend who played extensively on both. As a beginner the game will be harder than normal but as you become more used to the games and knowing the levels you'll just start steam rolling right through.

That being said the difficulty mostly comes through the lack of knowledge of an area. Playing through an area or knowing what's ahead greatly cuts down on the difficulty.

There are no choices of difficulty. It stays static and increases through New Game + (people often abbreviate to NG+). In NG+ you keep all your stats and items you built in the first play through and play the same exact game with slightly harder enemies.

Also PvP in Dark Souls is atrocious. Everyone builds the same critical build and wears Dark Grain Wood Ring to reduce armor encumbrance. Or they build +10 Lightning Zweihander or Washing Pole. Also the latency is terrible, most of the time you'll die without seeing the other person even move, it's called lag stabbing. I suggest playing offline until you reach a boss that you would like to Co-op with before you are comfortable with invasions. People will invade over and over and over and over and over just to be a dick. On a related note you will only be invaded if alive and not a hollow. Some levels come with NPC invasions that reward handsomely as long as you were alive to get the invasion.

Also learning to parry is an essential tool as the final boss is an easily parry gibbed nut sack. Learning his parry timers are a little tricky at first though but once you get it, he's a joke. Also you never get to craft his sword which is lame.

Also amazing Pro-tip if you do get the game, do not level stats past 50 as the stats suffer astonishing diminishing returns after 50.

Dark Souls is a fun game to play after you understand how everything works. For newcomers it is often frustrating and not worth the effort but you will have fun with it if you like initial challenges and enemies that you don't just plow through without thought. I advise you to get the game and a large HD Television, the text is way too small.

[–]randy_mcronald 2 points3 points ago

The best thing about the difficulty is that it is completely fair, I have never died in this game without blaming myself. This is partly due to as you said, attack patterns. This is only applicable to some enemies, usually 'Hollow' soldiers (think undead) and some of the least humanoid ones out there. There are plenty of enemies in the game that will roll out of the way and evade your attacks, behaving similarly to how a player would when doing PVP.

Also, most of my deaths in the game were due to either not thinking smartly on my feet or rushing through. In many places you can lure enemies out (or 'pull' as it's called in MMOs) which is the easier strategy but often you are forced to take on multiple assailants. If you do not lead them intelligently you will find yourself cornered or flanked. While it's true the first time you come across something like the dragon carcasses in Lost Izalith that can kill you in one shot if it jumps on you, the clues are there - it's frigging huge and if you see it leap up into the air and you haven't made any attempt to run, then it's your own damn fault ;-)

[–]Omnix_NerZ 0 points1 point ago

It also doesn't tell you shit about where to go and what to do as referenced by the two bells part of the video.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 1 point2 points ago

Perfect explanation.

[–]Liquid_Swordsman 4 points5 points ago

If it's the hardest is debatable, but it's certainly one of the best. I would definitely suggest picking it up. Especially if you like the dark medieval setting. It's just an all around solid game. Amazing atmosphere, actually interesting enemies and areas, tight combat mechanics, more than five types of weapon. At least give it a shot.

[–]kapson 1 point2 points ago

No, you misunderstand, I don't argue that it isn't a great game, if it was on pc i'd pick it up right now. I just wanted to see it from a perspective different than just "its hard because its hard".

[–]maybehelp244[!] 0 points1 point ago

didn't the pc release already happen? if not, its very soon

[–]adamantmusic 2 points3 points ago

August!

[–]Liquid_Swordsman 0 points1 point ago

It's going to be on pc soon. Don't worry about how hard it is, or why it's hard, just play it.

[–]adamantmusic 1 point2 points ago

Praise the sun!

[–]patrickmurder 2 points3 points ago

I haven't played Dark Souls

I stopped reading right there. If you haven't played it, you don't understand it and are therefore unfit to pass judgement.

I'd equate your statement to something along the lines of:

"I haven't eaten sushi, but isn't not eating eating raw meat common sense that all people should have?"

[–]DarkerHappyday 1 point2 points ago

Pretty much, except O&Smough, there's no pattern or memorization there. Only death.

[–]Alex1609 0 points1 point ago

The music for Ornstein&Smough, as awesomely climactic as it is, puts me into a cold sweat. I must have died about 50 times on those guys, and ended up farming souls for hours on end at Sen's Fortress so that I could get Queelag's furysword and finally beat those two bastards.

[–]PrinceofSpades 0 points1 point ago

kite smough far away while dodging and jabbing ornstein in a circular pattern around the pillars. When you see the openings, take them (1-2 hits tops). Ornstein dies... now for the fun part... PULL OUT THAT CROSSBOW AND THE 900 BOLTS YOU BROUGHT BECAUSE YOU GET TO KITE SMOUGH AROUND WITH BOLTS... YAY! But really, it was how I beat it my first time around... took forever, but was very very safe minus the random extra long smough 2.0 charges. Obviously pyromancy etc makes this fight a joke, along with just my general improvement as a player since release and many playthroughs... but god damn the first time before knowing any real tactics is a fucking ride. Whole other level compared to anything up to that point.

[–]Alex1609 0 points1 point ago

The thing is the first 30 times I tried I had the pyro glove, I had the lightning spear, I had 15 estus flasks, I was actually pretty good at the game, and I tried kiting them around the columns and playing cautiously. Nothing I did mattered, I would always get caught by Smough's thunder smash attack which would absolutely rape me.

I ended up using a combination of 2-handing Queelag's furysword, great chaos fireball, gold hemmed robes, dark wood grain ring and a shit ton of luck and flipping to finally do it. God that moment of success is absolutely unparalleled though, and like you say they are on a whole other level.

[–]Vzylexy 0 points1 point ago

You just have to be patient and extremely cautious about everything you do in that fight. I went a solid five minutes without taking any damage.

[–]DarkerHappyday 0 points1 point ago

This is true, I've beaten them countless times. in fact, I just beat them with my "no leveling character" as fast as the fight may seem, there is definitely a pattern to that fight.

[–]Liquid_Swordsman 1 point2 points ago

If anything, Skyrim is harder due to the shit melee mechanics.

[–]MagCynic 2 points3 points ago

I don't get it. Let me read some of the other comments in an attempt to understand.  

... reading... reading... reading...

  Oh. Ha? Yes. Ha ha, I guess. Funny.

[–]Banjoeman 1 point2 points ago

This comic reminds me about the one thing I can't stand about Dark Souls, the community. I really do not understand why they have to be such militant dicks about how good their game is. Now I love both games but when I'm playing dark souls I don't have dicks trying to way into every conversation about how great Skyrim is.

[–]latticusnon 0 points1 point ago

And another thing: the battle music would start way earlier.

[–]brahmadaitya 0 points1 point ago

How good is this game? I have not played it yet. The dudes at my local GameStop told me that this game punishes you a lot and is a test of patience and determination, and is sure to add a lot of frustration in my life :D being the lowly paid grad student, it sounded like the story of my life. So I ended up not buying it, but I wanted to ever since. Should I buy it?

[–]manwhowasnthere 1 point2 points ago

If you liked oldschool sandbox games like Super Metroid or SoTN you'd probably enjoy it. As others have said there is very little hand-holding... you are expected to try, and fail, and die, and retry, and eventually succeed and feel all "Fuck yeah, take THAT dark souls"

If thats your jam, you'll probably like it. It will also take you forever to beat it, so id say its a good investment for someone on a gaming budget. I haven't even beaten it and I've probably put in 40 hours over a couple characters.

[–]vici-Tu 0 points1 point ago

It was too easy after I invested time,the difficulty came from poor playing :/

[–]danish_hole 1 point2 points ago

Yes.

[–]spaceographer 0 points1 point ago

backstab fishers

[–]kk__ 0 points1 point ago

FINALLY people who like dark souls and not too scared to play it, well... we al are at some point

[–]KnownAsRye -2 points-1 points ago

Am I only one who's getting kinda bored of these "dark souls is so hard!" posts? Kinda like the "Amnesia is scary! Nope nope nope!" post?

...only me? okay.jpg

[–]Omnix_NerZ 2 points3 points ago

Dark Souls isn't difficult once you get used to the playstyle

[–]demenciacion 0 points1 point ago

my skyrim character would probably beat the living crap out of my dark souls character though

[–]IAMBollock 1 point2 points ago

Skyrim characters just look hard because everyone in the world is a pussy. Dark Souls characters have lived every death you've put them through, have been hit by that giant sweeping attack you failed to dodge only to just jump back and drink some estus, have gone face to face with things far scarier than anything in Skyrim... and are far more controllable in battle. While your Skyrim character is spamming magic at me, I'm running full speed at it dodging each bolt, I roll out the way of your Fus-Roh-Dah.... land straight behind you and put a hole your pussy dragonborn spine... before casually pulling it out and kicking your body all the way to the next boss.

[–]demenciacion 0 points1 point ago

when you do that I just pause the game and spam all the potions, then cast a AoE destruction spell, then i cast 2 dremora lords and a dragon to rip you apart. then I just have to touch you with my enchanted daedra great sword meanwhile im at no danger with my incredibly strong and enchanted armor.

Don't get me wrong dark souls its of course a much much harder game, but if you face a powerful skyrim character with a powerful dark souls character. The one from skyrim would probably win

[–]IAMBollock -1 points0 points ago

Then I hit you with Toxic... got any moss? I didn't think so. I exit your realm and wait for your guards to despawn, re-invade your world and as I make the final approach... your mount a horse and run up a hill.

Yeah you're probably right.

[–]Nivlac024 0 points1 point ago

poison resistance any one? yeah you better "exit my realm" b/c you about to get your ass kicked by shadowmere, cissero, my assassins ghost and a dragon. oh also any random monster I want to resurrect to kick your ass.

[–]IAMBollock 0 points1 point ago

You think they'll put my ass on plate that easily huh? I just took out this guy... and he's not even a main boss.

[–]hostergaard -1 points0 points ago

Actually, I think if you measure the strength of each character the dovahkiin would easily win.

Dark Souls is designed to be a challenge, where your character is weak. Skyrim is designed to be an adventure, where your character is strong.

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls character would get his ass handed to him, especially if the Skyrim character is one that abuses item creation.

[–]IAMBollock 0 points1 point ago

Dark Souls is designed to be a challenge, where your character is weak. Skyrim is designed to be an adventure, where your character is strong.

I think it's more a case of everyone in the world being hard as fuck. In Skyrim you're attacked by Bears, Dragons and groups of suicidal bandits... most of the time in Dark Souls you wish you were only being attacked by a Skyrim dragon.

especially if the Skyrim character is one that abuses item creation.

That is something I'd forgotten about, but similarly there are people that abused things in Dark Souls to get to ridiculous levels and basically become unstoppable tanks.

It's one of those Batman vs Spiderman things, we'll never know... but discussing it is fun.

[–]Weirdusername 1 point2 points ago

It's one of those Batman vs Spiderman things, we'll never know... but discussing it is fun.

Been arguing with people over that the past week. I'm in the Spiderman minority.

[–]demenciacion 1 point2 points ago

you are one of the good ones my friend

[–]hostergaard 1 point2 points ago

I think it's more a case of everyone in the world being hard as fuck.

I don't know about that, what level of destruction is an enemy capable of in Dark Souls vs Skyrim? I think Skyrim is easy because the main character is strong as hell. I mean, lorewise we have people strong enough to terraform a continent (see cyrodiil). You can fight gods, gods where ones corpse was great to form a moon and which hearth was used to power a unstoppable godlike golem that could destroy armies and later made an entire race vanish.

I am not sure exactly what the power scale is for Dark Souls, as haven't played it much, but the Skyrim scale is pretty high.

It's one of those Batman vs Spiderman things, we'll never know... but discussing it is fun.

Well, maybe. But those character come from worlds with relatively equivalent powerscales.

[–]IAMBollock 0 points1 point ago

Well, maybe. But those character come from worlds with relatively equivalent powerscales.

I didn't mean it like that, I meant that it was an argument about two characters fighting that would probably never be agreed on because there's always one trick to trump another.

[–]Kawaii- 0 points1 point ago

I don't think you understand that the level cap of a dark soul character is like over 700...if your character is facing off against someone with the reflexes of a good dark soul character at the highest level with the best equipment.

Your skyrim character might be in for a very hard fight.

[–]demenciacion 0 points1 point ago

yet the skyrim character can also level up really high, and to be honest the skills he have, specially crafting make him just ahead of the dark souls character

Im in not way implying dark souls is close in difficulty with skyrim but you have to agree the dragonborn just have better skills at his disposal thats all

[–]latticusnon -4 points-3 points ago

Premise of joke: Dark Souls is a much more difficult game than Skyrim.

Execution of joke: Dark Souls character could one-shot Dovahkiin. huh?

I understand that it is a joke, but it makes no sense. The player character in Skyrim is much, much more powerful than Dark Souls characters. The combat system in Skyrim is based on power and not skill, like in the Dark Souls games.

[–]matter_of_time 11 points12 points ago

The backstab in Dark Souls is a pretty powerful attack.

[–]pezcore2552 8 points9 points ago

That's not really the joke. The joke is that in Dark Souls you can and will be invaded by other players who can easily one shot you if you aren't ready for them. Since that is not a mechanic in Skyrim, the Dovahkiin wouldn't be ready for it. It's just using an unexpected element for humor, as in, you wouldn't expect someone to be invaded in Skyrim. Get it?

[–]hostergaard -1 points0 points ago

Technically, you can be one shot in Skyrim too with bows. But I doubt that even the bonus added to backstabbing would overcome the differences in powerscales.

[–]pezcore2552 1 point2 points ago

It's got nothing to do with one-shotting. It's just a silly play on your expectations. The joke is that these two games are being mixed together. That's it.

[–]a_stray_bullet 10 points11 points ago

You've never played Demon's Souls or Dark Souls, have you?

[–]latticusnon 3 points4 points ago

No, I've only seen other people play it. What was I wrong about?

[–]NikodePatchinko 6 points7 points ago

for certain classes in dark souls, such as say the thief, its a 1 hit kill to most player characters

[–]latticusnon 1 point2 points ago

And the Dovhakiin can be so sneaky that people don't notice him stabbing their face in broad daylight. I still don't think the power levels are comparable.

[–]NikodePatchinko 2 points3 points ago

im not being a fanboy here or anything, i love both games but look at the monsters on dark souls vs the monsters of skyrim. Skevver vs one of the mid bosses of dark souls, the mammoth sized zombie rodent, and don't get me started on the dragons.

[–]FapleJuice 7 points8 points ago

Not going to lie, skyrim had some weak ass uninteresting enemies. Skyrims enemies consisted of mostly animals, different types of mortals, and of coarse, dragons. All incredibly unchallenging most of the time. To be honest I think oblivion was far better than skyrim in both the criteria of difficulty, and creativity. I really wish they would've implemented some of the elements from oblivion into skyrim. Although I've never played dark souls, only seen gameplay, and I'm a huge elder scrolls fan, I don't think comparing dark souls to skyrim is even fair.

[–]NiteShadeX2 2 points3 points ago

Their debating strength, not enemies. Either way the Dragonborn has enough ridiculous abilities that he would laugh all over the Dark Souls character. Combat mechanics aside, in Skyrim you can:

Become completely invisible midcombat, then pickpocket the armor and weapon your opponent is using.

Gain enough backstab bonuses to OHK any enemy in the game, on any difficulty.

Reduce all incoming melee damage by 80% (the cap on armor rating.)

Reduce all magic damage by 80%.

Have INFINITE amounts of health, health regeneration, magic, and magic regeneration because you can juggle fortify alchemy -> fortify enchanting potions back and forth forever.

Thats not even including the Dragon Shouts.

All that said, Elder Scrolls have always had some of the most boring combat mechanics in an rpg, thats not the point of the game though.

[–]PrinceofSpades -1 points0 points ago

I prefer to be an average nobody who overcomes greatness then a borderline demigod who roflstomps all over the place, with the exception of me playing an ARPG in which case that outlook is then totally fine, especially with some solid pvp vs. some other demigods... Diablo3, why you no diablo2?

[–]Formicidae 1 point2 points ago

Off topic, but do you need to play Demon's Souls to have a clue about what's going on in Dark Souls? Or can you just start with the latest game? I'm interested in trying it out.

[–]novanleon 1 point2 points ago

They're completely separate games so you can play either one. If you get the chance, definitely play Demon's Souls though. It doesn't have anywhere near as much content as Dark Souls but it's an amazing experience all it itself. It might seem too small after Dark Souls though. I have a personal soft spot for Demon's Souls since it was the first game and the first game I've ever imported to play.

[–]a_stray_bullet 0 points1 point ago

Nah you don't it's a completely unrelated game.

[–]hostergaard 0 points1 point ago

Was thinking the same, in terms of raw fighting power the Dovahkiin would be unlikely to lose to any Dark Souls character. Its different power scales really.

[–]Izlude -5 points-4 points ago

Pretty sure the Dovahkiin's Fus Ro Dah would 1 shot any dark/demon's souls character... Seeing as how squishy they are.

[–]ghostsnipercw 18 points19 points ago

Have fun trying to hit him with that, or anything for that matter. Gotta love cartwheels and giant stagger preventing shields.

[–]Izlude 1 point2 points ago

You invaded Skyrim, son, we dont have them kind of fancy dance moves here. We just have this here Thuum that breaks wee men like you with the flick of mah tounge...!

[–]stagfury 2 points3 points ago

lol I'd like to imagine that Dark Soul character invaded Skyrim and suddenly notice all their complex combat abilities are gone but they are still squishy as fuck.

[–]Izlude 0 points1 point ago

This, exactly.

[–]CinLordOfGwynders 0 points1 point ago

Wearing Havel's armor+ring and the dark woodgrain ring... You invade, and you can barely move due to the weight of the armor and you try to do a cartwheel which ends up with you snapping your neck.

[–]NiteShadeX2 0 points1 point ago

You could still just spam the AoE expert level fire attack at him, because its ridiculously easy to get 100% spell reduction costs...

Cant cartwheel away from that.

[–]Anon159023 6 points7 points ago

I don't know about your guy, but my plate mail covered guy could take some hits to the face, like getting backhanded by a dragon type hits.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 3 points4 points ago

Smooth summoning out there?

[–]pezcore2552 2 points3 points ago

Fus Ro Dah doesn't even deal damage, so...pretty sure Wrath of the Gods would take out any adventure Skyrim could throw at a SunBro.

[–]Izlude 0 points1 point ago

Fus Ro Dah isnt about the damage, its about cliffs... And skyrim has lots of cliffs.

[–]pezcore2552 0 points1 point ago

Except that in the comic they're on flat ground. So suck on that!

[–]Izlude 0 points1 point ago

ok fine, OD AH VIING!!! ((Calls down the elder dragon Odahviing to assist him...))

I believe the sucking will be done by your champion, good sir.

[–]PockyInMyPocket[S] 3 points4 points ago

Gotta love the rag doll physics.

[–]a_stray_bullet 1 point2 points ago

HA!

[–]ragingroku 0 points1 point ago

Wheel Skeleton

[–]Suffca 0 points1 point ago

I was an adventurer like you until I-Gets stabbed in the back

[–]PureNukage -2 points-1 points ago

Suddenly, a wild IGN appears...