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[–]jennix1 680 points681 points ago

Actually, there are a lot of books like this to help explain to children what happens when someone acquires a mental illness, etc. It's a fantastic idea - it helps parents/family members explain in "kids terms" what's going on.

[–]dalittle 181 points182 points ago

a lot of children live really quiet sad desperate lifes that they had no choice in (just bad luck in life). The only thing that makes me feel a bit better about it is someone giving a shit enough to write this children's book to try and help them. There are good people out there.

[–]Joufy 139 points140 points ago

I remember a Mr. Rogers special on PBS a few years before he passed away where they interviewed a number of people who had grown up watching his show and how it had affected their lives. One women said that there was an episode she watched as a child where Mr. Rogers talked about how our parents may not always be there for us, they may be sick, or have problems with addictions, or fight, or say mean things to us, but that we're all special and we're all loved. She said during the interview that Mr. Rogers was the only adult who ever told her she was worth loving and that she was special and that it made all the difference in her life as her parents were drug addicts.

[–]breadisme 66 points67 points ago

What a great man.

[–]Joufy 33 points34 points ago

I remember feeling really embarrassed that I watched his show almost daily until I was a pre-teen and if I caught it on I'd watch it as a teenager. I had a tough childhood and I found a lot of joy in cartoons, Sesame Street, Mr Rogers' Neighborhood, Mr. Dressup, and Big Friendly Giant. I found placing myself in my imagination and the world Mr Rogers provided helped. It really helped, and so I held onto that a lot longer than most children did. As an adult I learned about how much he loved what he did, how he basically saved public television and educational children's programming, and how he really truly cared about the kids who watch his program. I'm glad I watched his show everyday and loved every minute of it even though I was made fun of for it.

He was keenly aware of this as he did a great episode of Arthur where Arthur expressed embarrassment at Mr Rogers staying in his home. I love that introspection.

Here he is defending public broadcasting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q

On Divorce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boKCx7auB8k&feature=related

That one hit home for me as a kid.

[–]breadisme 12 points13 points ago

That was really sweet. I'm glad that he achieved his goal of helping young viewers with you :)

Far more superficial, but I used to have a fear of going down the drain with the bath water until I heard his song about how it is impossible...

[–]Joufy 5 points6 points ago

Haha! Such a great common fear! I used to think a shark could come up after I saw Jaws.

Is this it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_aGrZu5tUM

Here's the video: http://pbskids.org/rogers/songLyricsYouCanNeverGoDownTheDrain.html

[–]breadisme 5 points6 points ago

Yesssss! That made my afternoon.

[–]dalittle 2 points3 points ago

yes, so true. Who will take up that banner?

[–]snackies 11 points12 points ago

fucking onions!

[–]cal679 80 points81 points ago

That's why I'm quite disappointed to see this in a subreddit for funny material. If someone posted a picture of a children's book with the title "My two moms" or "Dad's new friend" (I'm just going from memory here but I'm sure those are both readily available children's books to help children understand having gay or lesbian parents) then everyone would be applauding the bravery and progressive thinking.

A child can control their parent's sexuality as much as their substance abuse or problems with the law. Books like this are tremendous in their ability to help the child deal with a variety of problems people are uncomfortable discussing.

[–]NekkidSnaku 4 points5 points ago

that's reddit for ya

[–]musicbpc 1 point2 points ago

There's one called "Daddy's Roommate". I had to buy it for a children's literature course I took a while back. It was actually really great- it helped kids understand why mommy and daddy couldn't be together and how his dad's new friend is just like any other person.

[–]TapDatApp 9 points10 points ago

Amen.

[–]TheBirdAbides 49 points50 points ago

Yeah. I have a book from when I was 6 called "No New Baby" when my mom miscarried. It's super sad to read and nobody understands why I keep it now that I'm almost 24 but it really did help me understand.

[–]diuge 22 points23 points ago

Oh, god. I've never even thought about how horrible it would be to have to explain to your young child a miscarriage after months of excitedly talking about the new brother or sister...

[–]MrTidels 47 points48 points ago

Definitely a great idea, I've seen a whole series of book like this.

[–]Breathing_Balls 55 points56 points ago

Kids, ignore MrTidels. Going to jail is not a good idea.

[–]ForgettableUsername 5 points6 points ago

I'm just doing it as research for my upcoming novel.

[–]Mighty_Thorcat 8 points9 points ago

Really? Does it have anything to do with how frogs become airborne?

[–]ForgettableUsername 2 points3 points ago

No, I wasn't planning on writing on that since it's already been well-researched.

[–]frankgrimeslives 4 points5 points ago

I'm following you.. ;p

[–]slapded 425 points426 points ago

Thanks this thread isn't fun anymore

[–]Iloldalot 143 points144 points ago

c'mon, lets get outa here

[–]lexypher 60 points61 points ago

Said the joker to the thief.

[–]thejimanator 31 points32 points ago

There's just too much confusion.

[–]Sierus 19 points20 points ago

I can't get no relief

[–]PeanutButterPorpoise 18 points19 points ago

It's in the frakkin' ship!

[–]KellyTheET 6 points7 points ago

You're not in my gorram head, you're in my gorram ship!

[–]Breathing_Balls 19 points20 points ago

My voices said "But there ain't no door."

[–]Iloldalot 10 points11 points ago

........... you should get that checked out

[–]TheSlam 7 points8 points ago

Nahh hes fine

[–]wesman212 24 points25 points ago

I can make it better: I found the father from the story

[–]ogreatsnail 6 points7 points ago

Suspect was arrested in the park. His defense before the jury was as follows, and I quote: "Tricks are for kids."

[–]nullibicity 8 points9 points ago

It wasn't to begin with.

[–]TheStrangerEtranger 18 points19 points ago

I think this one belongs here.

[–]LozzaMc 14 points15 points ago

That book was a huge help to me when I was a kid. It brought such a lot of comfort and really helped me frame my parents divorce in a more positive light. I hate that I am going through the same thing now as an adult, but this book is still in print so I might buy a copy for my own kids to maybe help them out a bit.

[–]DarkTwistedFantasy 4 points5 points ago

Your parents got divorced again? Sucks man!

[–]LozzaMc 2 points3 points ago

Ah, I worded it badly, sorry. I mean I am currently going through a separation with the father of my children, and that this book might be a help to my own kids as him and I part ways.

Although my Dad and step-mum nearly did divorce a couple of years ago, and even as a grown up it was hard to cope with. Luckily it just seemed to be a rough patch and everything is better for them now.

[–]UnfurledRelic 6 points7 points ago

I thought it looked familiar... the guy who drew Arthur is the same artist of that book.

[–]BICEPS 36 points37 points ago

Is there a one called "The night daddy lost his job and left the family"? I'm just curious...

[–]missfick 22 points23 points ago

at the library i work at there is one called "i wish daddy didn't drink so much", written by the same lady who put out this one

[–]mh6446 16 points17 points ago

Judith Vagina is one of my favorite authors...

[–]hatestosmell 2 points3 points ago

What kind of drugs is that girl taking?

[–]notsureiftrollorsrs 1 point2 points ago

E

[–]jonosvision 59 points60 points ago

I saw it right next to "Why is Mommy rolled up in the rug?"

[–]hallowedsouls 11 points12 points ago

I read this as "Why in Mommy rolling up a nug?" and thought that I had been transferred to r/trees.

[–]Fellows23 7 points8 points ago

ELI5: the book series.

[–]YouDontWinFriends 2 points3 points ago

Yeah I actually would have really liked to have had this book when I was little. It would have helped.

[–]bluebarryallen 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, I work on the children's unit at a psych hospital. We have all kinds of books like these.

[–]YogurtShaker 3 points4 points ago

I wish I had gotten something like this when I was a kid, it seems more gentle than my mom having to grab me, give me my baby brother in one arm and my little brother by the other arm and send us over to the neighbors while my step dad was threatening to beat the living shit out of my bio dad for doing drugs in our bathroom and then watching him get carted off. It was extremely traumatizing as a kid, and I think it's kinda shitty that people make jokes about stuff like this.

[–]Quatroking -2 points-1 points ago

Out of curiousity, how often are these books about the mother done wrong instead of the dad?

[–]menomenaa 31 points32 points ago

Here's a list offered by the government of New Hampshire. http://www.nh.gov/nhdoc/fcc/books.html.

It seems that a lot are neutral gender, some are geared toward mommy being in jail, and an author "Frank M. Black" appears to have made the same book, depending on whether it's mom or dad.

It's not good to assume men are getting slighted. Honestly, it doesn't often make sense. And if there do happen to be more books about a father being in jail, it does correlate with the amount of men in prison vs. women. So as long as there are some books about a mom being in jail, I don't think it's that surprising that there end up being more about dads, especially if the books are written from a first-person perspective.

[–][deleted] 284 points285 points ago

Is this book supposed to be funny? It was made to help the children who have criminals as fathers which is a very real problem and a very sad situation for children.

[–]SAP_in_RL 109 points110 points ago

I have to agree. This one made me sad.

[–]iamesauce 26 points27 points ago

It's especially offensive because all the rabbits are black.

[–]hockal00gy 9 points10 points ago

No, that's just the color rabbits often are.

[–]mockidol 15 points16 points ago

White rabbits can't hop.

[–]hockal00gy 1 point2 points ago

The Rabbit of Caerbannog from Monty Python and the Hoy Grail is even more impressive now.

[–]ayaPapaya 37 points38 points ago

As someone who is still dealing with this issue, I was bummed to find this here..

[–]TheMarshma 9 points10 points ago

This is the First Fathers day since I was 3 that my dad wasn't in jail. Feels weird. I hope he feels shitty today.

[–]GaryDuder 4 points5 points ago

Jeez, he probably felt shitty a lot of days. Stop being vindictive.

[–]TheMarshma 13 points14 points ago

Ha, his name is Gary. No dude, I told him I'd talk to him, but I needed time.It's weird to have a dad for the first time at 21, and this is the second time he was out.I told him to stop calling, and if he had anything to say to write a letter to my moms house. He instead decided to just keep calling, then accused me of only wanting to be his son because of his money. So, I really hope he feels like shit today.

When I was little he used to smoke meth with me in the same room, I didn't realize what a shitty person he was until I became an adult. So today is kinda depressing for me too, I hope he feels like shit.

[–]cha0s 1 point2 points ago

All the same, try not to spend your time 'hoping he feels like shit'. That's an incredibly unhealthy way to live and if you're not careful, you're next in line for the 'shitty person' torch. Break the cycle.

[–]TheMarshma 7 points8 points ago

Well, todays different isn't it. And this all went down like only 2 weeks ago. I'm just grouchy today.

But youre right. I would just go play some LoL and forget about it, but servers down. T_T

[–]Flint_Ironstag 2 points3 points ago

Mate, no one can especially tell you what to do in that situation. And as much as I'd like to play devil's advocate in hypothetical advice there's a personal issue for me here as my Dad's still inside. There have been times in which I've been angry and I still am to some extent, however, weirdly as a kid when he was in I searched for reasons to be proud of him, certain intelligence in conversation, a kind of wit I saw at times when I saw visited, anything except what he was then and now. It's a mix of emotions and needs I guess. But anyway, you take your time, reach your own conclusions. I certainly don't know what your dad did or how it's affected you but you're still young, like I am. However, you're feeling the pain right now, as it's come so sudden, at the rawest of all. I hope to have the same strength when my Dad gets out. Good luck, man.

[–]TheMarshma 1 point2 points ago

It's weird isn't it? It's interesting though that you kept in touch with him while he was inside. I'd occasionally get a phonecall like a few weeks late after my birthday or if he wanted me to do him a favor, but essentially the guy is a stranger to me, and expects me to just accept him back. I accepted him back the first time he got out, cause I wanted a dad, and he used again and was back in within months. I don't wanna get burned again, and frankly I think he only wants to get to know me for him, not for me. If that makes sense.

Good luck with your dad. I rreally thought I wasn't angry at my own dad, but as his release got closer a lot of feelings of resentment came up. Hopefully it doesn't happen that way for you.

[–]Flint_Ironstag 1 point2 points ago

Well it was convenient for me, in a way as he's been moved around close enough to where I live, but he's been inside for a long time and with the apparent advent of being able to email prisoners (in the UK at least) I've kept in touch at times, often sadly leaving it, but there's only so much you can talk about to a man who has barely seen you and who you honestly feel like you don't know. But I did send him a message today, but it'll be delayed as to be honest I was reticent in sending it. My Dad's in for a long time, but I can't imagine what it would have been like to have him go back in, that's truly awful, man.

But anyway broadly speaking I've gone through an emotional process, anger definitely being a part of that. Yet I know too that that lasting isn't healthy but neither is ignoring it when it's got something fucking good to inspire it.

Without being too presumptuous -- I'd naturally want to be careful and not too speculative since I don't know the man -- but it sounds like your dad needs somewhat of a jolt to remind him of what he's done, gently perhaps but something to remind him of the cost of his actions. I dare say I don't know if I've seen that in my father but often times in cases I believe prison is enough. But I don't know, the point is it's good to look after yourself, after all in my way of seeing things our dad's didn't really do that too properly. But they are human and clearly fallible damaged guys as much as we are and even more importantly it's your dad, man.

Tough decisions and yeah it's all truly fucking weird.

Anyway best wishes, man.

[–]Smarag 1 point2 points ago

Playing LoL is not healthy for your heart or anything as well, try not to die from raging :)

[–]ILikeYouLikeMe 11 points12 points ago

To be honest, I chuckled softly then immediately went into a brooding silence. The fucking rabbit is drawing pictures of squad cars with what just might be the most depressed look on his face I have ever seen; although I am not overly familiar with the facial expressions of rabbits.

[–]Gooberpatrol66 7 points8 points ago

[–]deadwisdom 36 points37 points ago

If you're thinking realistically on /r/funny, you're going to have a bad time.

[–]magicsparkles 5 points6 points ago

This is the book my mom used to read to me at bed time every night. My dad is out of jail now but we haven't heard from him in a while because he owes back child support.

[–]menomenaa 6 points7 points ago

Yeah I don't know why reminding everyone on Father's Day that many young children grow up with a single parent or even neither of their parents because they're incarcerated is anything but sad.

[–]PoopyMcfartface 1 point2 points ago

Listen, /r/funny has a dark sense of humor, we don't need you buzzkills telling us what's funny, and what's not.

[–]robertluke 86 points87 points ago

Why is this in /r/funny? Can you imagine having to explain a family member going to jail to a kid?

[–]Annarr 20 points21 points ago

I vividly remember being ~3 and playing with my brother and my dad in the backyard when a police officer came and arrested him. By that time it was pretty normal to me having to deal with police officers. Went back inside and watched TV after they took him away.

[–]Eintzbier 14 points15 points ago

Relevant: On January 1, 2008 more than 1 in 100 adults in the United States were in prison or jail. In 2008 approximately one in every 31 adults (7.3 million) in the United States was behind bars, or being monitored (probation and parole). In 2008 the breakdown for adults under correctional control was as follows: one out of 18 men, one in 89 women, one in 11 African-Americans (9.2 percent), one in 27 Latinos (3.7 percent), and one in 45 Caucasians (2.2 percent). Crime rates have declined by about 25 percent from 1988-2008. 70% of prisoners in the United States are non-whites. In recent decades the U.S. has experienced a surge in its prison population, quadrupling since 1980, partially as a result of mandatory sentencing that came about during the "war on drugs." Violent crime and property crime have declined since the early 1990s.

[–]leaccountlele 25 points26 points ago

This actually made me feel really sad.... :c

[–]filthyhabits 15 points16 points ago

Yea. As a father who's been to jail, it's pretty fucking depressing, but you can recover from it.

[–]leaccountlele 15 points16 points ago

I dont get why this pic was posted to /r/funny :\

[–]Mr_Donair 5 points6 points ago

[–]wolf_op 11 points12 points ago

One single review: "I really wanted to know what Daddy did to get six years in prison" Oh come on. It's a kids book

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

Mommy just wanted a massage.

[–]Sonicmax2k2 4 points5 points ago

SPOILER ALERT! Come on!!!

[–]Joeyfingis 7 points8 points ago

Heavy subject, but hey, everybody poops!

[–]404-User-not-found 11 points12 points ago

Not everyone poops 6 condoms full of heroin!

[–]Jawthumb 22 points23 points ago

The son should get something, too. They clearly murdered those two fish.

[–]BiPolarBear94 20 points21 points ago

This would be funnier to me if my dad didn't actually go to jail!!

[–]klaq 1 point2 points ago

ha! your dad's in jail!

[–]potato11teen 2 points3 points ago

Whoa man. He might find it funny now, but, you know. * he's bipolar *

[–]bugzrrad 5 points6 points ago

and yet it's still pretty funny

[–]BiPolarBear94 10 points11 points ago

Sadly..... Yes.

[–]subsonicway 8 points9 points ago

May father went to prison on Monday. This is the first time I will spend Father's Day without him. Feels fuckin' bad.

[–]DantesAbsoluteZero 3 points4 points ago

Oh no, that bunny looks so sad. : (

[–]crazy88s 10 points11 points ago

What's with the author's name? Why would you name your kid 'Wednesday'?

[–]MustHaveCleverHandle 9 points10 points ago

They were big fans of the Addams family?

[–]smart_robot 1 point2 points ago

*Illustrator

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 52 points53 points ago

Finally my first Reddit relevant story time!

My sophomore year of college I had to take an adolescent literature class. I'm a secondary ed major (high school). Class is supposed to be about books for middle schoolers, so 6th to 8th grade. The professor is this black lady who, from what I could tell, must have lived through the civil war to be so incredibly racist. The first book we read was Push, so if you saw the movie you'd know - this is not middle school level material in most states, let alone South Carolina. Incest, rape, child pregnancy, racism - just what the fuck kind of stuff. Anyway, we proceed through that to read Night John (more black rape, slavery, oppression), The Middle Passage, etc.

Finally, with like a month left in the semester she comes in with a picture book called "Visiting Day"

Now let us take a break to introduce myself. At the time I'm a ~20 year old white male living in historically racist SC. Preparing to spend my time in a litigation filled public school system. My last year of courses has begun to transform my idealistic "I'm going to save all the children!" views into "oh my fucking God I'm going to get fired for sneezing in the wrong direction and spend 5 years in prison for it." This class was seriously working on my psyche at this point, and I'm already looking kind of shaky on grades because I just can't wrap my head around why I'm taking a black history class.

So she begins to read this book, and immediately I know I'm not gonna have a good time. Starts out with this little black girl having fried chicken at 6AM with her grandma, watermelons may or may not have been pictured. Uh-oh - ok its cool Chris, everyone loves fried chicken.

They begin getting ready in their Sunday best. Grandma, of course, has to braid lil'uns hair Ohh man, no dude, that's cool. Of course the little girl wants to look cool.

Time for a bus ride to see her Daddy! Don't show a picture of the two black ladies sitting in the very back of the bus - don't fucking do it! BAM They are, of course, pictured sitting at the very last row of public transportation. Oh come the fuck on, this can't be serious?

La-di-da-di-da a page about the ride, and the climax of the book as this little girl finally gets to see her daddy did we gloss over the stereotypical black-dad isn't there for her daughter part btw? My bad.

Teacher flips the book around - picture of the county lock up. I completely lost my fucking mind. Most racist children's book I could ever imagine - written by some black lady. Needless to say, I took the W and withdrew from that class immediately. I actually left right there in the middle of class because I just could not take that shit anymore.

Imagine me trying to read that book seriously to a group of students. They would 100% lynch me in the town square for presenting such a racist piece of shit book to a bunch of kids. To this day I will never understand why that book was written, published, or how on God's green earth my professor thought it was useful to any of us aspiring teachers.

[–]poopshoes 14 points15 points ago

Push isn't age-appropriate, but Nightjohn was. It's also a fantastic book -- for those unfamiliar, it's by Gary Paulson, author of the Hatchet series.

I don't think Visiting Day was age-appropriate either, but that's also a great book. It's based on the author's own experiences as a child, and I didn't find it racist at all. Bittersweet yeah, but it's a book about love for fuck's sake. You took a really weird view on it. It serves a good purpose besides... saddest comment I got from a first grader during story time was during Curious George. He gets arrested at one point for being bad, and this girl piped up, "Ohhh, just like my dad!"

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

I think Nightjohn was my favorite book of the entire class, actually. It wasn't nearly as graphic as Push or The Middle Passage (although that is a graphic novel, so yea) but it still had enough "WTF" to be able to incite discussion.

Also - that girl was a badass.

Edit: Apparently there are multiple books entitled "The Middle Passage" the one presented to us was a graphic novel - this one.

[–]resutidder 32 points33 points ago

Maybe you saw racism where there wasn't any. Isn't it just as judgmental to gloss over the fact that, yes, there is a statistically significant deviation from the norm in the lives of many black children, and they deserve an accurate depiction of their lives rather than a sanitized or idealized one?

This reminds me of a bit on It's Always Sunny. "Do we really have to use the word Mexicans? Couldn't we use something a little less offensive?"

[–]EmperorSofa 8 points9 points ago

Maybe it was a class meant to weed out people who couldn't handle all the shit that goes on in schools.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

Mission accomplished.

[–]EmperorSofa 1 point2 points ago

Maybe. I really do dislike the idea of a class who's sole purpose is to take something you have interest in and twist it into some horrible thing that you now dislike.

It's like when you put your favorite song on as your alarm sound in the morning. Eventually you just hate the shit out of it.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

Haha, I had a friend who for whatever reason chose "I Saw God Today" as his alarm ringtone on his phone. Biggest problem was, he would constantly sleep through it. We always threatened if he didn't wake the hell up he'd be seeing God sooner than he thought.

[–]Frankfurter2A 44 points45 points ago

That hardly sounds racist to me. Perpetuating a stereotype, but not necessarily racism. I don't think she meant to offend, or discriminate against her own race. Much of the time, racism is a form of discrimination, used by white people because of lack of understanding, or to use to insult another race, or empower their own race. In many cases with minority races, simple discrimination is often misattributed as racism.

In your teacher's case, I think that she was seriously simply trying to show a very REALISTIC, although unfortunate, situation which many blacks live through every day. And for a child going through that, having a book which parallels their own lives can be very comforting. Although these may be stereotypes, they are stereotypes that are perpetuated largely by ourselves, the black community.

Just my two-cents.

[–]LeAlthos 14 points15 points ago

If you think racism only comes from white people,... well, I have some bad news for you

[–]Frankfurter2A 1 point2 points ago

No. I did not say that.

Much of the time, racism is a form of discrimination, used by white people because of lack of understanding, or to use to insult another race, or empower their own race.

Racism is either a tool for empowerment of a race, or a product of ignorance. It just so happens that being the majority in America, white people are very susceptible to both of these. MAny minority groups often discriminate as well, but not from a position of power (seeing as they have less than caucasians). Racism and discrimination are very alike, but they are not necessarily the same.

And you don't have any news to tell me- I'm black, and have received discrimination from not just white people bruh. Ignorance is ignorance.

[–]Lorpius_Prime 2 points3 points ago

Not sure if you meant "perpetuating" or were perpetrating a pun.

[–]Frankfurter2A 1 point2 points ago

Goddammit.... Welp, glad someone caught that haha

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

Okay, I'll definitely have to agree I should have used the word stereotype more and racist less, for sure. My apologies for that.

But I think this book, as the culmination of the entire class, was just over the top. Not only was it outside of the audience age group, but the subject (along with everything else) was just so niche specific that it was pointless to present in the context of the class. And, well, I personally found the book completely tactless. Like I said, if I read that book to a class of 20+ students, I'm very certain I'd be called in for a serious talk in any school district around here.

Parents be all like "why you reedin dis shit to my kid? U think his daddy in jail or sumfin??". And that line, ladies and gentlemen, is why I deemed myself unfit to teach and now roam the lands looking for something else to do with my life, lol.

[–]betterthanthee 36 points37 points ago

Parents be all like "why you reedin dis shit to my kid? U think his daddy in jail or sumfin??"

Scumbag Chrisduhhhfur:

Complains about racist children's book

Engages in racist caricature of black parents

[–]happyclowncandyman 3 points4 points ago

Yeah, that was amazing. It was like his other posts were the joke and that last one was the big punch-line.

[–]TrickyDickyLicky 1 point2 points ago

I live in Georgia and that is actually how everyone talks in the south.

[–]dalittle 1 point2 points ago

I dislike this apologetic view on one side and a hardline on the other. Be consistent or GTFO.

[–]stupidshitshit 30 points31 points ago

tl:dr - Rich, white suburban kid gets exposed to literature written by and for black Americans, which deals unapologetically with the realities of growing up poor and black. Rich, white suburban kid can't deal with it, decries it as racist stereotypes and returns to his comfortable bubble.

[–]ChopandChange 18 points19 points ago

"...by and for black Americans" ??? His whole point was that the black community would have his head for reading their children a book like that. He did the only smart thing and retreated from a battle that is impossible to win.

[–]BrotherSeamus 1 point2 points ago

the black community would have his head

No, he has a black friend. So it's cool.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 3 points4 points ago

So a majority of poor black children are beaten and raped by their step fathers? Sent to school with semen on their clothing? Are abused with a coat hanger when their dad gets them pregnant?

TL;DR - You're a condescending asshat of a human being. Oh, and I'm far from rich. None of that changes the fact that that shit should not be read in public schools.

And if you don't like the fact that "rich white suburban kids" want to avoid these kinds of topics - maybe you stop being such a dick when these kinds of things come up. There are at least 3 other people who were able to speak to me rationally about my misinformed views on the book without being - well - you.

[–]LeAlthos 5 points6 points ago

I couldn't find the part about being "raped" or "going to school with semen" on your first post

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 9 points10 points ago

First paragraph. Go read "Push." A LOT of the material she presented to us was.. over the top. That little kids book was just the icing on the "what the fuck" cake that was that class, and it was the only one I could turn into a semi-humorous story for fake internet points.

But yea, Push is a scary, scary book. I think the movie name is "Precious" that was released in theaters.

Edit: I'm not saying these things aren't realistic. But having ME present them certainly is. Our public education system does not leave me room to be able to realistically handle subjects like this. If you want to argue and say I'm a pansy little white guy for not being able to handle it, then go be proactive and stop this country from destroying teacher's lives who really do try and tackle these issues. Because from my personal experience, and a lot of my friends who went into Education - it is quickly becoming a field paralyzed with fear.

[–]smpx 2 points3 points ago

I saw precious, amazing movie, but whatttttt the fuck.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

I haven't seen the movie, but unless it was rated X, I can almost guarantee the book is much worse. So imagine reading that with 6th graders and you'll understand my puzzlement with this class as a whole.

[–]VengefulOctopus 2 points3 points ago

Wow.

[–]musicninja91 2 points3 points ago

As an education major, I must say... thank you JESUS I'm bi-racial. No one can accuse me of being racist in any direction.

[–]TehDingo 2 points3 points ago

i dunno man, you only cover 2 races. There is still a wonderful gamma of races that can pull the race card on you, especially if you are what they call "white passing".

[–]sinterfield24 4 points5 points ago

Your white guilt is astounding.

[–]DevestatingAttack 1 point2 points ago

If it makes you feel any better, I know exactly where you're coming from here.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 6 points7 points ago

Honestly - it does. I was not expecting so many attacks by so many people posting this. Looking back, I find it to be a funny story because of how over-the-top I ended up taking that damn kid's book. But in reality, that class changed my life. Between that class, and the multiple meetings with other professors about that class, I realized I would never, ever be able to teach in our country. I just wouldn't make it. I'd be fired for saying the wrong thing or actually standing up and saying something was ridiculously stupid. People here are saying "omg that book shows how life for some black kid's really is!"

Well no shit. The problem is - I am not black. And I never will be black. And I will never really understand how that life is. And expecting me to present that book so those kids can relate to it is idiotic. I can't do it, it just isn't possible, because like it or not there WILL be parents, or administrators, who will come to me and say that I can't possibly understand and then will use the stereotypes portrayed in the book against me to paint me a racist bigot who thinks that is how all black families are.

And for that I'm getting crucified here on reddit, because so many people don't understand the state of our public educational system in some areas of this country. Its fucked up - good luck finding otherwise good people who are willingly going to throw themselves into that shit-storm, because I gtfo. And I'm sure some of the people on here saying I'm the racist for taking this book that way are the exact people who will one day try to accuse some poor teacher of the exact same thing. People aren't perfect - and race is a sensitive issue - guarantee when their child's teacher says the wrong thing they'll go off with their pitchforks and lanterns a-glowing. GL with that.

[–]AmberTheGreat 1 point2 points ago

I think we may have had the same teacher, if my reddit-stalking prowess serves and you went to Clemson. I took Children's Lit two summers ago. Children's books are weird.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 2 points3 points ago

Dr. Martin? She ended up becoming the head of the entire English department at Clemson or something ridiculous like that which haunted me for a very, very long time. I will never forget her, lol.

[–]AmberTheGreat 1 point2 points ago

I think that may have been her. Haha. Oh well, it's done and over with now and we survived it.

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

Haha indeed. Do you actually teach now? Always surprises me how small of a place reddit can be.

[–]AmberTheGreat 1 point2 points ago

I actually majored in English to get into journalism. I flirted with the idea of teaching for about six months, but then I decided I was far too impatient to deal with the red tape intricacies of teaching in the public school system. Too much bullshit for too little pay.

I graduated last month, and I found a job as an administrator in an architecture software sales company. Doesn't really have anything to do with my degree, but it's a job and that's what was important! :) What about you? What did you end up doing post-Clemson?

[–]Chrisduhhhfur 1 point2 points ago

I actually just got done myself. I took almost 2 years off (actually the year after getting steam rolled in that class, lol). And now I'm about to move to Charleston area to work for a bank.

Never changed my major, I really, really wish I had, but I felt kind of trapped in it, and the allure of possibly getting a masters in Ed Psych (if you took the class with Igo - it was awesome) kept me going I guess. But yea, I couldn't work in that kind of system either, so I'm perfectly happy. Nothing special - but better than being homeless! =] haha.

Always nice to see fellow Tigers on reddit!

[–]dishonestabe[!] 7 points8 points ago

Why does the bunny have to be colored?!

[–]Goldcut 11 points12 points ago

Because he's illustrated.

[–]Pepper-Fox 11 points12 points ago

Daddy's on fire, daddy's not on fire, daddy's on fire, daddy's not on fire.

[–]jonosvision 7 points8 points ago

ಥ_ಥ

"Fine... Daddy's on fire."

[–]McG4rn4gle 2 points3 points ago

That cover picture actually bummed me out.

[–]Brash_Attack 2 points3 points ago

Where was this book when I was 7? And 12...

[–]bigweiner 3 points4 points ago

That rabbit is way too pretty for jail.

[–]FenrirUlf 1 point2 points ago

This is fucking depressing.

[–]falsfield 1 point2 points ago

Scans?

[–]Person_On_The_Web 1 point2 points ago

Please upload pics of the story!

[–]Smorsh 1 point2 points ago

You can see the sadness and confusion in that bunny-child's face.

[–]pinkythug 1 point2 points ago

I'm gonna buy this for my dad, to troll him

[–]pencilinfrontofme 1 point2 points ago

That's not funny, that's depressing as fuck. Also I figured I was on /r/WTF

[–]bad_artist_2000 1 point2 points ago

More importantly. The illustrators name is Wednesday!

[–]KotahsLegit 1 point2 points ago

This is... Rather depressing, actually.

[–]invioletlight 1 point2 points ago

I was 13 when I answered the door and two detectives asked to see my father. He was wanted for robbing a liquor store. At 13 it is a terrible thing to see your father hauled away by the cops, only to return 14 months later - a different person altogether. I will always have mixed feelings about my father - and I am reminded of him daily now while looking into my son's face.

[–]nemesis_xxiv 1 point2 points ago

Am I the only one who is going crazy trying to figure out what the bunny was arrested for?!

[–]esushi 1 point2 points ago

We have the same one at the library I work at!

[–]cynicallady 1 point2 points ago

That is the saddest book I've ever seen :(

[–]FuckedUpLogic 2 points3 points ago

The kid of the stripper I'm dating thought I was real prick for giving this to her today.

[–]GrizzlyBCanada 3 points4 points ago

This thread broke my heart in 6 different places.

[–]Melnorme 2 points3 points ago

Night Dad went to jail. Day Dad was pleased. He had Anytime Mom all to himself.

[–]Dodgers64 6 points7 points ago

I bet it was in an inner city library

[–]mudskipper27 1 point2 points ago

Chiming in to represent the little white girls in wealthy towns whose dads went to prison. I would have really appreciated a book like this back then.

[–]bugzrrad -1 points0 points ago

libary*

[–]Gneal1917 1 point2 points ago

*libury

[–]HorseSteroids 1 point2 points ago

*Lie Berry

[–]Gneal1917 1 point2 points ago

*What's that?

[–]livinglitch 2 points3 points ago

Whys it gotta be a brown bunny on the cover?

[–]RafteI 1 point2 points ago

Take a guess genius.

[–]Trapped_in_Reddit 3 points4 points ago

Chapter 2: Don't Drop The Soap

[–]GlowStickMoshPit 0 points1 point ago

I work at a library, too (kinda... Technical Services). Wonder if I'll ever come across this. Kinda hoping I do, now.

[–]obroccolibear 0 points1 point ago

I use to work in a jail teaching parenting classes. This would have been pretty helpful when we had visiting day every Saturday. That was a sad job...

[–]HowDoIDefineMe 0 points1 point ago

By the same author as classic titles like, "The Night Mom OD'd"!

[–]TheBirdAbides 0 points1 point ago

My dad went to prison the day before he was supposed to get custody of me when I was 10 after my mom chose alcohol over my brothers and me. I wasn't thinking "fuck Father's Day" until I saw this post. :-/

[–]DeezCrackers 0 points1 point ago

....anyone know where I can get a copy?

[–]BugsBunny21 0 points1 point ago

This gives me mixed feelings. It's funny and sad at the same time...

[–]antisemite_hershel 0 points1 point ago

i once saw a book like this called "why did grandpa die?" that's some heavy shit for a 4th grader or even a 6th or 7th grader. hell it's rough for anyone. unfortunately i didn't get time to read it. i wish i had picked it up.

[–]wolfenkraft 0 points1 point ago

Best part is the name of the illustrator. Wednesday is a great first name. I just don't know if I should assume Wednesday Addams or some misguided ghetto naming.

[–]zigzagg321 0 points1 point ago

Reptiles don't have the parts of the brain needed to feel any emotion of any kind. They know nothing but eat, kill, mate... So that crock was not horny, not hungry and didn't feel threatened. The instant any of those three things were to change, that guy would be lunch or dead or both.

[–]Consensual_Rex 0 points1 point ago

Somebody post the Simpsons reference! I would but I'm on my phone.

[–]vinnytheguinea 0 points1 point ago

was this book written in detroit?

[–]cannont 0 points1 point ago

Night Dad, fighter of the Day Dad.

[–]PerfectNemesis 0 points1 point ago

bunny's brown, close enough

[–]mudskipper27 0 points1 point ago

One of my Father's Day memories this morning was of visiting my dad in prison for the holiday when I was 8. They searched the cake my mom brought for weapons, etc., and we couldn't give him the gift we brought--a blue shirt--because only the guards could wear blue. Makes me sad to think of other kids going through the same thing. Definitely not /r/funny to me.

[–]IcarusCrashing 0 points1 point ago

These kinds of books are awesome. I love that they have things like this out there to help explain complex/emotional situations to kids, and help them realize that they aren't alone. I have my BA in psych, and I'd love to one day have my own mini library filled with books like this for clients to read.

[–]stroundrel 0 points1 point ago

what's it like working at a library?

[–]WowbaggerMM 0 points1 point ago

This shit isn't funny. There's alot of people who won't see their dad's today for this very reason.

[–]jaded_gal05 1 point2 points ago

I agree. It's not funny. BUT, it's not the books fault that kids won't see their fathers if they broke the law. Daddy did the crime now he's gotta do the time...

Truly though, this book is fucking tragic.

[–]theonb 0 points1 point ago

dad.. you've been like a father to me.

[–]Reblejc 0 points1 point ago

My dad is going to court tomorrow and more then likely going to jail. Surprisingly this post made me feel a little better

[–]crazycreator13 0 points1 point ago

Ok, I'll be "that guy" and ask, what is that website on the computer in the background? I noticed it while viewing this and it looks familiar but I can't remember where I've seen it...

[–]i_love_younicorns 0 points1 point ago

I'm adopted and I remember my parents reading me books like this when I was really little to explain the whole process of adoption to me. It was way easier for them to sit me down and be, like, SURPRISE you're adopted!

[–]elliottmarter 0 points1 point ago

why is it "the night dad went to jail" sounds like some dubious deeds have occurred and he's been dragged off under the cover of darkness

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

Sequel to: Daddy, What's a Hooker?

[–]NousDefions 0 points1 point ago

Why are they brown rabbits?

[–]ariguitari 0 points1 point ago

How is this funny?

[–]kookoo831 1 point2 points ago

The library at which I work* Don't end a sentence with the word "at" unless it is a quotation.

[–]TheLoganBoy 0 points1 point ago

Who names their kid Wednesday?

[–]iGotChubs4You 0 points1 point ago

Happy Father's Day Dad! Oh by the way it's due back Wednesday.

[–]sloppy-jugs 0 points1 point ago

This hits too close to home.

[–]mr_mistoffelees 0 points1 point ago

Reminds me of this book I saw in the kids area of a church.

[–]alsorobots 0 points1 point ago

Follow it up with the classic Little Golden Book: "Sometimes Daddy hugs Mommy with his fists"

[–]meantamrajean 0 points1 point ago

I just died inside... Kids shouldn't have to read shit like this... Is there a r/sad?