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[–]Se7en_Sinner 91 points92 points ago

[–]Battletooth 19 points20 points ago

I tried that with my friends yesterday.

The best I could do was half of a spin before I fell down.

It hurt.

A lot.

:(

[–]Fig1024 10 points11 points ago

maybe the secret is in the butt

[–]Harkonen_inc 0 points1 point ago

the people walking buy: No Fucks could be spared at this time for Tryhard Pigeon.

[–]StraY_WolF 6 points7 points ago

My fat friend do it once. FUNNY. AS. HELL.

[–]Edgar4llanPwn 4 points5 points ago

I have got to try this.

[–]IcedTeaAnarchy -5 points-4 points ago

Do you just post .gifs now?

[–]ronnyman123 46 points47 points ago

How do you make the front page? You post links about making it to the front page.

[–]vahntitrio 11 points12 points ago

I've always found posts about karma on reddit to be the best way to get karma on reddit. Why? Because reddit loves reddit. Perhaps reddit loves reddit too much, as evidenced by the fapping rage comics.

[–]matari -2 points-1 points ago

so by that logic, there's a whole lot of us that don't care about making it to the front page -or- by that logic, if all of us put 'making it to the front page', we all would?

[–]justmadethisaccountt -2 points-1 points ago

I just posted 2 awesome front page worthy pictures.

[–]Shockum 0 points1 point ago

Pics or it didn't happen...oh wait.

[–]Alew22 24 points25 points ago

I wanna know why the hell people are seeing this and deciding to just keep on walking by.....how the hell do you NOT stop and watch this pigeon struggle? Not something you'll ever see again, and its quite fucking hilarious. People in this world are morons.

[–]IDontLookAtUsernames 10 points11 points ago

My thoughts exactly. Except for calling people morons. Be nice to the robots.

[–]2pacsofgum 2 points3 points ago

You'll be a robot too someday.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

It's Japan. Those people probably work/study around 80 hours a week. They just want to get home and try to eat something before they pass out and have to do it all again.

[–]Alew22 3 points4 points ago

If it's Japan, then they're crazy for walking past it and not capturing it....for a free dinner. Regardless, no matter how you slice it....people choosing to ignore this pigeon have no genuine emotion in their lives. I mean, jesus....at least turn and laugh at the thing for a minute.

[–]QuantumBreakfast 1 point2 points ago

If you stop to look at that you'd be impeding the flow of traffic--it would be really inconsiderate/rude. I personally don't live anywhere that crowded, but I remember the first time I visited NYC I was on the subway at Penn Station during rush hour, trying to figure out how everything worked and there was just no way I could stop moving to figure things out. It's like when people slow down to watch an accident on the freeway and end up causing a traffic jam/delays later on.

[–]IDontKnwU -1 points0 points ago

Fucking A people... It's a damn pigeon is trying to get his exclercise on, and all you can comment about busy subway systems blah blah blah... Give this damn pigeon some fucking love!

[–]Shiftkgb 0 points1 point ago

I feel it's less struggling and more the pigeon just having fun. But then again this is a pigeon, not a crow.

[–]amalbose 6 points7 points ago

hey, remember u can fly...

[–]Mixed-Signals 7 points8 points ago

Bird's just toning its legs on the treadmill, flying would defeat this purpose.

Either that, or the bird is not very smart.

[–]candygram4mongo 4 points5 points ago

Looks like he's trying, but all the desperate flapping is doing is allowing him to stay in place. Reminds of the whole can a plane take off on a treadmill? controversy.

[–]itsnotmyfaultimadick 0 points1 point ago

if that was true, it would be the opposite of the correct answer for the plant treadmill controversy.

proven by Mythbusters.

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[–]YoProduction 6 points7 points ago

Because Prof Oak said it's not the right time to use Fly

[–]amalbose 0 points1 point ago

i didnt know that. why not?

[–]iScreme 0 points1 point ago

Space... or lack thereof. (lots of running into things, and since he's a bird, break-neck speeds are a real problem)

[–]stopshort[S] 0 points1 point ago

we've all seen how well birds deal with simple barriers http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads13/DSC_00021221176787.jpg

[–]trampus1 0 points1 point ago

Did he dip himself in chalk before he did that or what? Maybe it's some kind of impressionist bird art.

[–]ebac7 -1 points0 points ago

I guess you could say he STOPPED SHORT!

Cause he crashed...

Ok, I'm leaving..

[–]Kinglink 5 points6 points ago

Is this new proof in the airplane on a conveyer belt theory? Proof you can't take off.

[–]NonaSuomi 1 point2 points ago

Not sure how that was ever supposed to be a question to begin with. The plane is producing thrust to keep it moving even with the treadmill, but its movement through the surrounding air is 0. A plane requires air actually moving over the whole wing front-to-back to take off which is not happening on a treadmill, even if the thrust is caused by a wing-mounted turbine. No air over the airfoil means no lift means no takeoff.

[–]Kinglink 4 points5 points ago

Actually that's the theory but practical application has proven the other theory. The issue is the plane creates thrust from the propeller not from the wheels which causes the plane to move forward, and create lift.

I agree with your theory but Mythbusters did a few examples of it and the planes take off every time. Which then caused me to reconsider it.

[–]NonaSuomi -1 points0 points ago

Well with a propeller it could possibly cause airflow over the wings, but under-wing turbines would do no such thing. Also, I'd be interested to know if they actually did 1:1 for this, flying a real plane on some giant custom-built treadmill, or if they just used a plastic model and called it good enough.

[–]Kinglink 0 points1 point ago

They did it with an ultra light I think, I disagree with that methodology as a conclusive test (they pulled a long strip of cloth, at 70 miles an hour. and the plane was able to stay on the strip and take off.) but it at least was believable enough for me to see there's something there.

It's not about airflow. It's about the fact that when you use a car. You're driving on the road, the only speed it gains is off the tires. However with a plane, you're thrust is coming from the plane. All your tires are doing is spinning along with the speed of the plane, there's some drag there, but it's not going to stop a plane.

And yeah, I don't totally buy it, but I've seen it, and there's enough areas which make some sense that I can see that makes me think that perhaps my theory is wrong.

Edit: A good way to see it is, imagine if I have to be going 70 mph to take off, and the treadmill is going 70 mph backwards, my wheels will go 140 MPH, if necessary, it creates a small amount of drag, and the plane might need slightly more power, but the plane would take off.

[–]AllDownHillFromHere 0 points1 point ago

No he is right the only reason the plane took off was because the wings were in the wake of the prop. Air was flowing over the wings which induced lift. If this was a viable option for take off for an underwing turbine or a jet engine you would see aircraft carriers with conveyer belts to reduces take off distance.

[–]Kinglink 0 points1 point ago

It's not a viable option for takeoff as it doesn't require a shorter amount of distance for take off. You're sort of missing the point. When the plane starts moving forward, the plane is at Point A. It's inertia is moving forward. The only part of the plane that is modified by the runway, isn't it's position at that point, but the wheels, there's a slight amount of drag created, but in fact the plane's forward momentum + the grounds momentum is additive on the plane's wheels (The planes wheels will spin faster).

However the distance necessary to accelerate to the take off speed will remain relatively the same, in fact being able to match the plane's take off speed would be near impossible, and cause more issues.

In fact planes on carriers, use catapults due to the amount of speed they gain. It uses vastly less space than any other type of takeoff, less mechanical danger, and compared to a conveyor the size people would need, or the timing required by a conveyor (if it even worked in shortening the run way) the amount of power consumption for it would be astronomical. The idea that a conveyor would in any way benefit a takeoff compared to a catapult (rubber band?) is a bit silly.

I honestly think people aren't getting both the limited wake the prop would generate, and the fact that the wheels are magical friction material. As there's no Drive train on them, they're able to spin at what ever speed is necessary.

But let's assume you are right. Why don't pilots have giant fans to launch plans? Or why not make a plane with a giant fan, that blows air over it's own wings? These ideas just don't work in reality. Not at any efficient rate. I imagine someone could make it work, I'd definitely like to see an ultralight taking off that way.

For a practical demonstration of of the wheels issue, Take two objects. A wheeled car (or any cylindrical object.) that doesn't have a drive train or brake, and either a wheeled car that has a drive train attached (that can be set into drive) or just any non wheeled object. Put a sheet of paper under both objects and pull the paper out and look what happens to the two objects.

Newton's laws at action. A object at rest stays at rest until a force is exerted at it, but wants to remain at rest, so the wheels turn, but the vehicle doesn't move back at the same speed of the paper. because the wheels are able to turn freely. The second object with no wheels or a wheel in gear will move faster in the direction of the conveyor (potentially not the exact same speed as the paper but more of the energy is transferred depending on the surface material used)

Add in thrust (not through the wheels) at the same speed as the paper? And what would happen to the two objects? The first object would move forward, the second might start moving forward at a very slow speed or stay "still".

The first object would start getting air flow, as it's moving through the air, and that's why it actually is possible for a plane to take off.

Btw I do believe it would be possible to stop a plane from flying. But to do it through the wheels would be remarkably inefficient, and to do it another way require essentially a string. A plane tied to a stake or pole would not take off. (assuming it's already at diameter of the rope and aimed away from the pole.) But the example of a conveyor would only work in theoretical terms, because the numbers and speed of adjustment would be far beyond what anyone can do.

[–]derbyle 0 points1 point ago

They did it on mythbusters with a real plane. The way they explained it was that the prop is what provides thrust on a plane. Because the wheels are free moving, the movement speed of the ground beneath it has no bearing on the air speed of the plane. So imagine you set up some sort of truss that would keep a plane stationary on a tread mill that allowed the wheels to get up to speed. When the prop is activated, the force will cause the plane to move forward and eventually take off.

[–]QuantumBreakfast 1 point2 points ago

Oh god here we go

[–]ramboy18 3 points4 points ago

Seems to be a glitch in the matrix

[–]big_red__man 2 points3 points ago

[–]slothenstein 1 point2 points ago

[–]Brisco_County_III 1 point2 points ago

Nerding it up on this:

That is an absolutely perfect demonstration of wing-assisted incline running!

[–]Norillim 0 points1 point ago

But I was going to say that.

[–]duchovny 1 point2 points ago

Downvoted for a useless submission.

[–]humongous 1 point2 points ago

No, use the other one , stupid pidgeon!

[–]BrokenBraviaInOregon 1 point2 points ago

Why the hell does watching this make me feel the urge to pee???

[–]MasterNyx 0 points1 point ago

Ironically the song that popped into my head was Gonna Fly Now from Rocky.

[–]stopshort[S] 2 points3 points ago

I was thinking of Europe - The Final Countdown

[–]YoProduction 0 points1 point ago

It's just a treadmill for birds

[–]memx 0 points1 point ago

She's just making some exercise...

[–]InfiniteMindLoop 0 points1 point ago

This is also what it's like getting a job with an Art degree.

[–]mrfluffleballz 0 points1 point ago

It's funny because the pigeon is using the wrong side of the escalator.

[–]imperator285 0 points1 point ago

It's so easy for everyone else.

[–]ericn1300 0 points1 point ago

Notice all the no fuck given by the passerby's?

[–]SelectAll_Delete 0 points1 point ago

Some motherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill.

[–]balloubird 0 points1 point ago

Trying to start my career

FTFY

[–]enzo32ferrari 0 points1 point ago

so i became a helicopter.

[–]Gaffit 0 points1 point ago

Well we finally have our answer to that stupid airplane on a treadmill problem.

[–]iJason 0 points1 point ago

I don't need these wings! Fuck the system!

[–]carlender 0 points1 point ago

Hong Kong, Times Square MTR exit, right?

[–]valhon99 0 points1 point ago

Or post a catpicture...

[–]dkramer[!] 0 points1 point ago

Fly, you fool!

[–]ReflexEight 0 points1 point ago

That's actually not true. Nothing is really holding you back from getting to the front page. Like the pigeon, you just have to be smart and think of something creative to get what you want.

[–]that_one_asian25 0 points1 point ago

I hope it knows that it had wings for a reason.

[–]IDontKnwU 0 points1 point ago

Pigeon treadmills bitches!!! I work ouuuutttt...

[–]afronaut 0 points1 point ago

Have some self respect! Don't you know you can fly?

[–]FlavoredGelatin 0 points1 point ago

That pigeon...

[–]SpidersKidsmoke 0 points1 point ago

Jumping onto the left side = reposting for karma

[–]kkkkkkkekeke 0 points1 point ago

That's...azabu juban in Tokyo.

[–]Laneyface 0 points1 point ago

Jesus, I hate pigeons.

[–]SMB73 0 points1 point ago

Not if I can help it! ;)

[–]UnknownArchive 0 points1 point ago

Anyone seeking more info might also check here:

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Bird treadmill. 1com 7pts 2hrs funny
Innovative treadmill exercise--discovered by a pigeon 1com 31pts 2mos gifs
Pigeon's Frustration 77coms 959pts 4mos funny
Even Pigeons Need Exercise 1com 10pts 6mos funny
Pigeon’s Frustration 38coms 646pts 6mos gifs

source: karmadecay

[–]buriednexttoyou 0 points1 point ago

I thought they busted the airplane-on-a-conveyor-belt myth.

[–]Calitalian -1 points0 points ago

You could say it has a ..

bird brain

o^

[–]MindintoMatter -1 points0 points ago

Front Page? I'm happy when I get 20 up votes on things.

[–]BrookieTookie 1 point2 points ago

20? Heck, I get happy if I get 3...

[–]mikeachilles -2 points-1 points ago

Is it still an escalator if it takes you down?

[–]CanadianMutton -1 points0 points ago

Looks like Islington Station in Toronto.

[–]capt_ishmael -1 points0 points ago

I wish the mythbusters had that video when they did that airplane on the treadmill myth, they would have reached the right conclusion.

[–]ThatGuyRememberMe -2 points-1 points ago

It's not that hard. Some people just suck.