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submitted 2 months ago by LiEWneeK
[–]wheeldonkey 151 points152 points153 points 2 months ago
Some reasons for poor market share: 1. perceived quality is different than actual quality 2. price is too high 3. new to market... "introduction" stage of product life cycle 4. inadequate capital 5. inadequate distribution and/or supply 6. misinformed customer base (see #1) 7. government regulation and tax policy 8. stiff competition 9. can't think of a ninth one 10. product niche is too narrow
[–]8bubbles8joe 62 points63 points64 points 2 months ago
I wasn't sold on any of your expertise until I saw number 9.
[–]wheeldonkey 13 points14 points15 points 2 months ago
you got that right... i spit the truth, though.
[–]dietbroccoli 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago
If we take the most common theme in your post, the conclusion is:
Inadequate.
[–]wheeldonkey 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
YES!
[–]Apostolate 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
You can tell he's used to having to do presentations on these sorts of things, at least 10% bull shit.
[–]jigglesv 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago
Ay, a bit of marketing 101 on the horizon...at least it's fair weather.
[–]Tellswhenupvoting 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago
Upvotes for you. OP made a silly post.
[–]meanttodothat 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
I, too, took a marketing class.
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[–]majorlihung 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
You must be really fun at parties.
[–]its_so_on 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
point taken. I got nothing.
[–]CasedOutside 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
This is related to number 1 and number 6 but in my opinion is much more important and that's simply just a lack of advertising.
[–]jtfine 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
You forgot conspiracy.
[–]TheFuzzyMan 18 points19 points20 points 2 months ago
Because if it was the leading brand then it would 10x better than itself.
[–]hinduguru 16 points17 points18 points 2 months ago
Repeat for maximum results
[–]okmkz 17 points18 points19 points 2 months ago
java.lang.StackOverflowError
[–]dvdlesher 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Isn't this the reason why we use float/double variable instead of integer?
[–]DWR2k3 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
So we can overflow at a higher number?
[–]okmkz 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
A stack overflow is typically the result of infinite recursion, not an integer overflow, which is unhandled.
[–]dvdlesher 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
... Somehow I feel like an idiot for posting that comment now -_-, thanks for the correction!
[–]SellinThings 11 points12 points13 points 2 months ago
Name new company "Leading Brand" + ? = Profit.
[–]HMPoweredMan 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
Wouldn't that like destroy the universe?
[–]Jayoir 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Pretty sure some companies have done that with "100% Beef".
[–]blue2_2222 7 points8 points9 points 2 months ago*
To be a "leading brand", the customer base has to be larger then the competitor. Examples of leading brands would be for:
Fast food - McDonald
Soft Drinks - Coke
Music software - Apple
Department stores - Walmart
In comparing advertising, the competitors have to say "leading brand" to avoid slander lawsuit from the leading brand (Even if the viewer knows where that product they are comparing to came from).
[–]samcwiddowson 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Yup.
There are hundreds of burger chains out there that are ten times better than the leading brand of McDonalds.
A leading brand is just better publicised, in McDonalds' case to the point where it's part of the culture, and many of us barely see it as a brand.
[–]scottydg 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Wow that was confusing to read.
PSA: Put in two returns after each line to create a new paragraph and two spaces and one return after each line to force a new line.
Two returns were between here
and here.
Two spaces and a return were between here and here.
Hoped this helped!
[–]blue2_2222 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago
Sorry and thank you for the tip. :)
[–]scottydg 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
No problem. Reddit formatting is a bit confusing, I help out whenever I can.
[–]cumfarts 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago
Who the fuck came up with that in the first place? If I press enter once, that means I want a goddamn new line.
[–]g33n -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
John Gruber came up with the markdown syntax. The concept of having a separate syntax for line breaks and paragraph breaks dates back at least 50 years, though.
I don't think you appreciate the ignorance your comment demonstrates. The choice to make the two syntaxes different was deliberate, and designed as a tradeoff between all sorts of other concerns.
[–]cumfarts -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago
Whatever you do, don't bother explaining it
[–]g33n 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago
Getting text to display properly is a surprisingly difficult process. Back in the days of moveable type/linotype/etc. there was a human who would be involved in every step of the process, and they'd use their judgment to decide exactly how to make each page look. Things like hyphenation, line spacing, typography... were all decided by a person. Which was great for high-quality, artisanal works, but kind of sucked once you wanted to change something on the fly or alter the format of your printing.
Then came the computer. For a while, the questions of how to make a page look good were sidestepped by using very basic syntax for representing and printing text. All printing characters were the same width, and to figure out where a line break fell when printed you either used a naive approach (break anywhere in a word once you run out of space, resulting in words being spl it right in the midd le), or you looked to the end of each word and decided if there was enough space left in the line to print that word.
The systems we have today are partially a compromise between the primitive state of the art when the first typography standards were being decided on, and the least-worst decisions that could come out of that. My biggest gripe is the conflation of semantics and syntax, or semantics and graphemics - if you've ever witnessed a debate between programmers about whether tabs or spaces are better, you've seen the result of this. But I get ahead of myself.
Everything in computing is represented by a stream of numbers. In some cases, those numbers indicate to the computer to display something on the screen. In other cases, however, the stream contains instructions on how to display what it's displaying. And then there are the instructions that affect both.
So, in markdown, the * character can be used as an indicator of style (italics, bold) or as the asterisk character itself.
The problem I alluded to is basically a question of the role of breaks. Breaks are syntactical elements that indicate to the renderer how to handle text in an abstract manner, by treating elements between breaks as belonging to a class of objects. There are a number of breaks: line, paragraph, section, page, chapter... and, in some sense, the End-of-File character can be considered a break as well. There are also characters that indicate where breaks should not occur, such as the non-breaking space.
For arbitrary text, the proper use of this abstract model allows text to be rendered to any device and still come out conceptually pure; i.e. the same book that you can print on legal paper would look good on A4 paper, and would also look good on a mobile phone. Separating the graphemes (letters, numbers, punctuation) from the visual instructions (spaces, tabs, tables) permits a renderer to take the text and make it work on whatever it's being printed to.
In reddit comments/markdown, there is a much more limited set of tools. Comment fields are limited to something like 10k characters, so no one is going to be writing chapters or pages in here. But what about poetry? Computer code? Because one of the things I didn't mention about the different classes of breaks is how they handle formatting - notably, line breaks tend to preserve formatting, whereas paragraph breaks tend to return formatting to the default. So if a line overflows, but you want it to render as the same style as the paragraph above it, you really want a line break.
But maybe it's better if I just show you some examples.
Reddit does auto numbering.
And it tries to maintain the visual sense of the inputted text throughout numbered sections.
But if you do a paragraph break and then try to return to numbering,
On the other hand
If you start with a number, insert a line break, and then keep going
it will format properly.
TL;DR: Paragraph breaks start over, line breaks keep going where you left off.
[–]cumfarts 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
So why does pressing enter start a new line on every message board except this one?
[–]g33n 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Because, to be honest, most of them are ugly.
One of the reasons reddit tends to have a less noticeable downward trend than some other boards is that the system we have in place is structured to make decent-looking posts require a tiny bit of effort, and great looking posts require just a bit more.
Compare how reddit posts render to the abortions that come out of sites that run, say, phpbb, and you can see that the small learning curve at the beginning leads to more easily enforceable standards down the line. Basically, everyone fucks up the returns on their first ever comment, but that fuckup communicates to them that there are standards. This is more a side-effect than a conscious decision on the part of Gruber or spez, though.
To answer your question directly, though:
Markdown is designed to be just light-weight enough, but no more, to allow good looking, versatile text representation.
There are cases when the text contains returns but you don't want a visual return - one case is hardwrapped text from email, where the returns are a throwback to fixed-width terminals.
There are cases where you want a logical break, but don't actually want to change the style of your text, like the numbering continuations above
And there are cases where you want to separate things as different paragraphs.
Markdown's three rules (single return, two spaces and a single return, two returns) are just complex enough to allow for a wide range of expressions in text without the onerousness of HTML tags or the visual abomination of true WYSIWYG.
[–]Gioware 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago
Because: marketing!
[–]ohlordnotthisagain 4 points5 points6 points 2 months ago
Shoppers are stupid. Not only are they stupid, but they don't even realize it. Most shop out of habit. If you ask them, they'll tell you they shop by quality, price, etc, but they shop out of habit. They rationalize irrational decisions after making them. A brand that has not been able to build a significant share of the market can have a difficult time pulling consumers away because unless something drastic happens, a buyer of Brand A is far more than likely to just keep buying Brand A.
[–]angertrain 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago
That's not stupid, they don't want to switch brands because trying something else might mean they wasted their money on something shittier than what they're used to.
Although there are other reasons that demonstrate why consumers are usually pretty stupid. Repeat buying is definitely not one of them.
[–]ohlordnotthisagain 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
People aren't stupid because they buy a brand out of habit, they're stupid because they're oblivious to their behavior. They will tell you they are concerned over price, quality, etc, and yet most of them do not even pay attention to which brands are on the shelf, let alone prices or claims made by products.
[–]angertrain 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Consumers aren't nearly as dumb as you make them out to be.
Change that product that they're so oblivious about and they'll analyze, and possibly change their habits right quickly.
The recent shenanigans regarding reducing product volume, for example, has caused many consumers to rethink their buying habits. And they need buying habits. Analyzing every purchase is ridiculous for most people.
[–]ohlordnotthisagain 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago*
Yes, they are. I work in market research. The company I work for tests consumer behavior in the area of consumer packaged goods--shopper insights, package tests, etc. We run tests which have produced a track record of reliable data. Over and over again, we see the same thing.
Shoppers consistently make irrational decisions, only to rationalize it later. And that's if they even bother thinking at all. Most appear completely ignorant of the disparity between the behavior they describe and the behavior they display. Shoppers are stupid. If they weren't, simple packaging changes wouldn't result in millions of dollars lost by companies like Tropicana. Shoppers are shallow, fickle, and otherwise irrational.
[–]Nayr747 -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
Except they can actually find out if an alternative brand is better by reading ratings and reviews in Consumer Reports and online. With the exception of Apple (until recently) and Honda, I have very rarely seen the leading brand be the most highly rated.
[–]wick36 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Ya, but if people are happy with the products they are buying, they're probably not going to feel the need to look up a bunch of reviews.
If my Windex makes my glass surfaces sufficiently clean, I don't have a reason to look that stuff up. If the hot dogs I buy at the store are delicious, I'm going to stick with them most of the time!
[–]Nayr747 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
I guess I just think of things differently. If Windex was doing a good job cleaning my windows, I would still want to find all the info available on cleaning windows. For instance, Windex may contain chemicals that have long term health affects while something like distilled vinegar might clean the same but not have those chemicals. I've just never understood the saying "If it 'ain't broke don't fix it".
The highest rated brand isn't necessarily the best brand for that consumer.
Apple is a shining, perfect example.
True, but it's a lot more likely to be.
[–]lubbocksux 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Cause the leading brand is calculated by sales and not efficacy. Derp.
[–]AbstractMatter 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Let us ask a simple question that is equivalent to yours:
If Dream Theater is ten times better than Justin Bieber, why is Justin Bieber more famous?
[–]isidor3 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
woah, woah, only ten times better?
[–]AbstractMatter 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago*
IF they are. The actual number is incomprehensible to the human mind.
[–]Hakoten 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Don't they usually say "Next leading brand"?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
Because marketing
[–]Dicklonius 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago
REPOST!
[–]egosumFidius 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
how my mom usually is, "i dont care if that's better and/or cheaper, this is the one i usually buy so this is what i'm getting."
[–]raihan42 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Because it's NEW...
...and improved!
[–]rayhem 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
The pro was a beginner at one point too... Except the beginner is 10x better than the current pro but hasn't had the time to show off his skills to the masses.
The leading brand is very rarely the most highly rated. The other brands can't rely on name recognition for sales, so they have to make their product better to compete.
[–]alejo699 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
I don't know the last time I actually heard that outside of an infomercial. The most common line (said in the most bragging way possible) is, "No other ____ works _er!" -- Which is to say, "Every other _ works in exactly the same way!"
[–]kolossal 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Bad Marketing.
[–]LIIEETeh 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Everything is 10 times better than the leading brand - even the leading brand!
[–]urbandynamix 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
As much as I like this I cant get past the fact that this is a serious repost.
[–]Sitron 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Well there's the product. And there's also price, place and promotion.
[–]inpu 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
It's a conspiracy! Just ask any Amiga user.
[–]SDcowboy82 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
because of branding
[–]TheZenji 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
I believe Reddiquette has something to say about reposts along the lines of the community being able to decide its worthiness with the voting system.
[–]buffonisgod 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
just like the term "virtually clean"
[–]DocStein 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Answer: The best option isn't always the most popular option.
[–]yodasonics 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Repost
[–]Leard 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
*Next leading brand, they normally say.
[–]Zer0_Cool 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
I've heard it as "the next leading brand". Pretty sure it's more common for them to put it that way.
[–]Clayblud 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
because
[–]Rouzay 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Nice try, leading brand
[–]Vanilla_Dreams 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Because its a new product and soon will be the leading brand. Or maybe it doesn't have a good marketing team.
[–]weaver2109 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Because Publix only has stores in the southeast.
[–]Haztel 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Repost... :c
[–]Chatu -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
REPOST IS REPOST!
[–]Jel251 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
WHY WHY IS THIS GETTING SO MANY UPVOTES WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[–]laicnani 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
Because it's 10 times better than the leading Reddit post!
its fucking old like OLD and new because it keeps getting reposted. god damn
[–]liberalis 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
When I was ten, this is how I discovered all advertising is a lie. A Lie!
[–]dietbroccoli 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
"Bounty brand Paper Towels absorb liquids through capillary action."
-Advertisement.
[–]BeingABestBud -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
Little bitch.
[–]suedebluesshoes -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
Because... it's... not...
[–]Rexoff -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago
Whoa.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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