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My family and I just watched Bill Maher's documentary "Religulous" (i.eho.st)
submitted 3 months ago by mister_toaster
[–]NorrinRaddforPres 66 points67 points68 points 3 months ago
I don't find Bill to be as completely objective as he presents himself but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
[–]FurryEels 25 points26 points27 points 3 months ago
calling it a documentary is a stretch... but the genre is kinda dying.
[–]jimbo91987 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I was going to say that he should put the quotation marks around documentary rather than Religulous.
[–]THCnebula 7 points8 points9 points 3 months ago
Yeah not by a long shot. I only enjoyed some parts of it.
[–]PunkRockMakesMeSmile 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago
Why is a position not objective when it has been reached through an objective analysis of the evidence available? I reject the notion that as soon as you feel any way about anything, you are biased. If the available information changed, Bill's position would change (presumably, I admit the guy is frequently a prick) to accomodate it. That is objective.
[–]paranode 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago
When your 'arguments' consist of making fun of the opposition and relying on logically flawed quips then you become biased, even if you reached your original opinion based on objective analysis.
It's like pretending Jon Stewart is a real news person. He may be hilarious at times but he's very biased.
[–]DaBongler 7 points8 points9 points 3 months ago
But the people on fox news are considered "real news people".
[–]The_Razor 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago
If they believe that, are they really people?
[–]wiz_witout 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
By some people. A lot of people know better. I'm sure there are people who take Stewart seriously.
[–]GuitarBOSS 10 points11 points12 points 3 months ago
Jon Steward has been shown to be more accurate than other "real" news sources. source
[–]SubtleHMD 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Why not? "Serious" is a broad word. Do I take him as a serious news source? Not really. But I would say that the points he's making behind the humor are serious? Sure.
[–]Negro_Napoleon 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
I'm sorry, but how ELSE do you deal with religious people?
I mean at some point you have to call it what it is.
Unless you're worried about offending armed cults in this country.
[–]Archangelus 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago*
Yes, they simply fail to consider the possibility that religious people really are as unenlightened as they present themselves to be. If you make a huge lie big enough, eventually people will find the truth obscene. And yes, I'm getting that from Hitler's little "evil Jews" thing (http://tinyurl.com/6loraq4). At a point, Germans had to believe they were the problem, or else how could they live knowing the truth and reality of what they were doing? The same thing goes for religion, it's a huge lie people have passed on so vehemently because realizing it's a lie would break them and separate them from those others who believe in the lie and eternal afterlife.
I'm just saying, being religious is like being a Nazi. I'm sure nobody could argue against or take that the wrong way.
[–]SubtleHMD 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
I agree. Religious people are Nazis. All of them. -shakes head in approval-
[–]eagerbeaver1414 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Getting off topic here, but I have to say, Jon Stewart is biased, but not politically. He's biased towards the facts and reality. Often times, but not always, this corresponds to a liberal point of view.
Compare this to the cable "news" people who are supposed to be biased towards the facts, but they are clearly politically biased.
[–]plassma 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago*
TBH, I feel like this is a logical impossibility. If your "argument" is making fun of people or making logically flawed quips, then you didn't "reach your original opinion based on objective analysis." If you reached the opinion based on objective analysis, then how could your arguments be either of these?
You arent biased if you came to a conclusion justly, but then present your point in unjust ways, you're just kind of being a douche. Your "view" is still the same, regardless of what you say.
For example, lets say I reason the following: If P then Q, P is true, therefore Q is true. But I go and talk to someone who says that not-Q is true. I say to him, smugly, "Heh, anyone who believes not-Q is just a [bad thing]." Here, the I am not being biased in my opinion, I am just being a douche.
I feel like I'm not being clear enough so here is what I mean in short: the validity of an argument and the way you present it are two seperate issues. I suppose you could use the term "bias" to indicate variance in either. PunkRockMakesMeSmile is talking about "bias" in his position; he is saying there is no bias in the validity of his argument. You are talking about something elese, "bias" in his presentation, which is a seperate issue which, finally, I think is more rightly attributed to "douchebaginess" than "bias."
[–]-TinMan- 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
So views + wit = bias That sounds wrong to me.
[–]Luvzmykunt 50 points51 points52 points 3 months ago
I loved that movie...tell me again how god supposedly placed dinosaur bones underground to question my faith... I almost fell off the couch laughing, I can't believe people in this world are really that ignorant.
[–]deanreevesii 68 points69 points70 points 3 months ago
Saddens me to think: my nephew wanted to be a paleontologist when he was a little dude. My former brother in law berated and beat that out of him because he believes the devil planted those fossils, and that the earth is only 6000ish years old.
My nephew just graduated high school, and had no plans for the future.
[–]Mandrewsaurus_rex 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago
I've wanted to be a paleontologist for the past 14 years(I'm 19) and I really feel for your nephew. Douchebag brother.
[–]deanreevesii 32 points33 points34 points 3 months ago
Douchebag ex-brother-in-law.
LOL, not trying to be a jerk, but I have no blood relation to that dickless redneck.
[–]weaver2109 25 points26 points27 points 3 months ago
Yes, it's true; this man has no dick.
[–]ConnorMH 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
Oh my science, what is it then?
[–]el_historian 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
THESE MEN CAUSED AN EXPLOSION!
[–]derpaderp 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Then, who was banging his sister?
[–]hyp3r 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I believe you, because... you know. Internet.
[–]RoyallyTenenbaumed 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
that makes me so sad. Shit like that goes on every day. Yet another reason not to believe in a "benevolent higher power".
[–]token_brown_guy -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
If the "devil" planted them, wouldn't that make him omniscience? And if god is the only omniscience being, does that mean Satan is a god?
[–]PhoenixAvenger 22 points23 points24 points 3 months ago
You'll either love or be terrified by Jesus Camp
[–]masedizzle 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago
Or both.
[–]ghostfox1_gfaqs 7 points8 points9 points 3 months ago
It makes me really sad, and really angry at the same time. Sad for the kids who are brought up like that(both in film and everywhere else), angry at the parents and religions and other adults for doing it.
[–]kamikazimatt 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
Watch Red State. Not much in the way of amazing story line, but lots of gore and sort of "pokes fun" at the extremely religious.
[–]mlkelty 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Then watch the Kevin Smith special "Burn In Hell" where he expands upon it. Both are available now on Netflix Streaming.
[–]kamikazimatt 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Good suggestion. Now I have something to watch when I get in front of netflix in a week.
[–]bipolarphyllis 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
that movie made me so goddamn mad.
It terrified me since I know someone out there is crazy enough to do this.
[–]DaBongler 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
The last 15 seconds of this movie was just the greatest....."shut the fuck up" cut to black.
[–]W00ster 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago
Religious people need to treat their religion like their genitalia - don't wave it around in public and don't shove it down kids throats!
[–]JustAnotherVisitor 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I LOVE this line!! I think I'll steal... I mean... borrow it as my tag line :)
[–]j_win 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
That was the scariest horror flick I've seen in some time. Two thumbs up.
[–]mrgreen999 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I honestly couldn't watch that, I was so horrified.
I turned it off after about 5 minutes. It honestly scared me.
[–]Elodrian 7 points8 points9 points 3 months ago
I really didn't care for Religulous. Dawkins' documentaries cover the same ground but with so much more charm. Whereas Maher does the atheist schtick like a prick with an Axe to grind, Dawkins does it like a scientist that actually knows things, not just things about atheism, either. Also he comes off as smarter by speaking British instead of American.
[–]Pyrite13 8 points9 points10 points 3 months ago
It's almost like one is a professional comedian and one isn't.
[–]thekillers 15 points16 points17 points 3 months ago
The entire point of Religulous was to poke fun at such ridiculous beliefs. To show how silly they are and induce doubt. It wasn't meant to be scientific at all so I don't know why people argue that.
[–]sulris 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago*
yeah i agree with you thekillers. if he was aiming at target A no one should be suprised he didn't hit target B. if everyone aims for the same targets life would be boring repeat fo the same documentaries.
so dawkins did a good job of hitting target B with well thought out and serious documentary.... and maher hits target A a silly slap stick but fun docucomedy... apples and oranges people. you should judege his aim by his goal not by what you want his goal to be or you can debate the worthiness of which goal to aim at. but people here need to stop pretending that everyone else is aiming at your goals and missing and missing the target.
[–]Elodrian 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
You can either say "You're wrong" or you can say "You're wrong and here is the right answer". Which refutation do you find more credible?
[–]thekillers 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
I find the second more credible, of course. However, that's not the point of this movie. It pokes fun, that was the goal. This isn't a scientific documentary. Do you think you telling the people in the movie the right answer would have made a difference? It probably would have taken up time and explained things more poorly than Dawkins ever could, and that means less laughs :(
[–]englishdouspeakit 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
You must have gotten an A+ in Bravery 101
[–]superwinner 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago*
When fundies come to my door I ask them how old the Earth is. When they say 5000 years, I ask them if they know what oil is, where is comes from and how long a process it is to make it.
Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing to behold on a persons face.
[–]PotataChipz 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
I don't know why that would make them question anything. Clearly god put oil in the earth so that we could drive cars.
[–]bwochinski 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Agreed. If that alone gives them pause you're only dealing with indoctrination-liteTM .
[–]BarelyLethal 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I never thought of that one. Did you think of that yourself?
[–]godlessatheist 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
The part where he mentions the similarities between Mithra and Jesus were actually pretty inaccurate and not backed up by any real facts. The first the claim these similarities was from the conspiracy theorist movie "The Zeitgeist".
It was a great movie though in that it was entertaining.
[–]ellipticcurve 18 points19 points20 points 3 months ago
Part of me liked it: "Finally! A movie that speaks my language!". But most of me was put off by Maher's insistence on being an enormous prick.
Now, I am a fire-breathing New Atheist with little patience for "tone arguments", but... I dunno, I think there's a difference between being unapologetic and being an asshole, and that Maher was on the wrong side of it too often.
In a traditional documentary a narrator might explore a certain concept and be intrigued showing something new to the viewers.
Bill did that, but instead of intrigue he was a condescending prick to everyone in the process.
[–]Kennyjive 16 points17 points18 points 3 months ago
I'm still laughing my ass off at that GIF.
[–]FloatYerBoat 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
I chuckle every time. Does anyone have the source? I need to know the context so I can laugh at what he is grinning about.
[–]h0witzer 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
One of the guys on the opposing tribe was voted off, and they had just seen who it was. The person voted off was someone the two girls wanted to stay, and the guy in the back wanted him gone.
[–]h0witzer 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
Specifically this clip, though it makes more sense when you've seen the rest of the season beforehand.
[–]invadrzim 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Damnit, really? I always thought this was from when one of the girls tops came off during a challenge. Still funny gif but now not as funny to me
[–]jkalderash 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
This link explains the backstory pretty well.
[–]FloatYerBoat 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Perfect, thanks.
[–]Shteevie 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Aside from being an episode of Survivor, I can't define the source. Maybe there's a tineye for gifs?
[–]dildingdos 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Whatever it is, it's the season with Sugar, because that's the blonde girl's name.
[–]fox112 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago
I liked the part where there was a clip of gay porn.
[–]TranscendTheIllusion 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago*
Perfect use of that gif. My girlfriend's family refuses to watch it because they know that it'll make them question things which they do not want questioned.
[–]earthDF 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
Not really. While a few good points are brought up, Bill spends most of the time being a jerk. It was very easy for religious people I know to discount it.
[–]madsin32 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
That's Bill's thing. He's a comedian troll. He gets paid to be a jerk. Many people in that show were too dim to know they were feeding a troll. Some got it.
[–]earthDF 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
I get that. And I understand that there are people who think he is funny. I'm just not one of them. As are most religious folks. They won't like it because of presentation, which will be an excuse to invalidate all of his statements.
[–]Negro_Napoleon -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
A jerk?
How do you treat people who worship...nothing?
[–]earthDF 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I don't be a dick to them. Especially if they are agreeing to be in my movie to debate said beliefs. Now, anybody who is being a jerk to me, fair game, but some of the targets had no visible reason other than being religious. As much as it might not seem like it, given reddit's confirmation bias, not all religious folk are idiotic jack ass bigots. Those types of people, fair targets for bill's trademark dickishness. Other people not so much.
It basically turns out looking like Bill is just trying to take pot shots at people for there beliefs, rather than actually have some type of discussion. Granted, it's been a year since I watched it, so maybe his assholery has amplified in my memory.
[–]otakuman 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
which they do not questioned.
I think you either accidentally a word, or uses bad grammared.
[–]TranscendTheIllusion 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Damn, how'd I mess that up? Good lookin' out bro, it's fixed now.
[–]otakuman 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Thanks - and thanks also for allowing me to make a grammar joke :)
Oh it's my pleasure. If you hadn't noticed, I would've looked like an idiot for everyone else. Reminds me of Daniel Tosh when he says his gf broke up with him because he was always correcting her. He replies, "How do you think I feel being with someone who's wrong all the time?"
[–]FoxyKit 15 points16 points17 points 3 months ago
Bill Maher doesn't believe in germs.
But yeah, apart from that he's a cool dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tyodvwxe4mE#t=222s
[–]Tarcos 23 points24 points25 points 3 months ago
He's also part of the "autism is caused by vaccines" crowd. Basically, even if he's right about religion, fuck him.
[–]CalvinLawson 20 points21 points22 points 3 months ago
Evidence that skepticism and atheism aren't synonyms.
[–]Tarcos 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
If only.
[–]THCnebula 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
Wow I hated how condescending, pretentious, and at times, downright stupid Bill is. You guys just finished him off for me though. What a quack.
[–]Prime-eight 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Completely agree. I don't like maher. He has an undeserved air of superiority around him. I mean I liked the movie and I like that he is an active atheist, but I find him annoying.
[–]MotherFuckinMontana 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
He's harmful to the a-religion movement Imo. He's just too much of an asshole, and his movie was too insensitive and one sided, furthering the stereotype of an asshole atheist.
He renounced this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/vaccination-a-conversatio_b_358578.html
Stop reading false information if you're not going to update your sources.
[–]TheSnowNinja 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
He didn't really renounce it. He still seems to think that that a strong immune system can negate the need for vaccines.
"But someone needs to be representing the point of view that says the preferred way to handle flus is to have a strong immune system to begin with, and getting lots of vaccines might not be the best way to accomplish that over the long haul."
[–]lemonjuicer 30 points31 points32 points 3 months ago
Bill Maher is a very good example of someone with a very liberal bias, but I found the movie okay.
Unrelated, but I've seen a version of that gif where the middle guy was labelled 4chan, and the two women were labelled "rest of the Internet."
[–]YKWDPM 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago
This one?
Personally, I much prefer this and this one. Source on both: Angel Beats!
Textless version of the second (whispers perfect for aborting threads).
[–]zhylo 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
They mixed up funnyjunk and 4chan, they should be the other way around.
[–]YKWDPM 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Nah, I think 4chan should have still been last but funnyjunk shouldn't have been the third one.
[–]SomeGuyWithABoner 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
He also picked very dumb people to interview, mostly fundies, to make fun of. I would have liked to see him chat with a moderate Christian/Muslim/Jewish who rejects creationism and embraces homosexuality, much like the tone in his interview at the Vatican with that really cool bishop(?).
[–]wothcloth 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
To embrace homosexuality would contradict directly with the OT, no? Which would make for a picky-choosy Jew, no?
[–]kearvelli 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Exactly why it would be interesting.
[–]wothcloth 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago
Agree to disagree. There is nothing interesting about a picky-choosy believer. They are an easy example of why religion is paper-thin.
[–]kearvelli 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Exactly my point. Would have made Bill's doco a hell of a lot more poignant than just exploiting brain dead fundie extremists.
[–]paranode 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Yup. Although I found it funny it was the same caliber as a Michael Moore editing hack job as far representing the opposition.
[–]Pyrite13 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I'd like to see someone like that run for office as a republican.
Are they dumb or honest?
Its like religious people aren't at some point or another rejecting rationality.
[–]dubious_alliance 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I've seen the same caption on this image, does anyone know the origin of the gif?
[–]Jithrop 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago
Survivor, the TV show.
Thanks :)
[–]Karmolicious 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
What happens to make him smile like this ? (Got a source link so I could watch it ?:p)
[–]wothcloth 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
probably Probst describing the difficulty or disgustingness of a particular challenge.
It was actually the tribe getting their first look at who was voted out on the opposite tribe.
I always assumed there was something nasty/sexually going on. Or some kind of accident.
It may even be Probst announcing a reward. Helicopter ride over some water fall or something. I've seen every episode, but this is a few years old now and I can't remember specifically. They are definitely lined up for a challenge explanation.
Knowing this killed the .gif for me. Still so fun.
[–]Lots42 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Four Chan. The modern version of Stand By Me.
[–]smokinsandwiches -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
Bill Maher is a very good example of someone with a very liberal bias...
Yes, Bill Maher and the truth have that in common.
[–]gm4 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 months ago
"liberal bias" usually means favoring an intellectual opinion as opposed to an idealogical one in today's standards it seems. I think he sometimes puts a bad face to those who agree with him, but it's better than him not being around.
[–]superwinner 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
He is biased, but his and a lot of other people bias to the left is a reaction to far right wing extremism.
[–]gm4 -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
Right, which then it becomes an "ends justifying the means" thing. Do we allow allies simply because the other side is crazy? Or is it better that they are there because that is the logical conclusion...
It mostly means you use hype and set up logical fallacies like strawman arguments instead of using facts. I may agree with some of his points but he is just the liberal version of Bill O'Reilly. In fact he may be more extreme.
[–]MotherFuckinMontana 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
At least atheist bill is a comedian, not like fox news bill who claims to give the news
[–]TheCastro 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
He was a little bit angry in my friends opinion when we watched it. They felt he talked down a little too much to them.
I liked it over all.
But I also think you can sit down, have a serious discussion about religion with experts on the material, and they'll let the crazy wash all over you.
[–]colinsauce 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
You represent the short one, right?
[–]bluetaffy 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Interesting Tidbit: When I was a kid I was "a christian" due to being born to a fanatically christian mother. I was told that Algore wanted to legalize gay marriage, so we shouldn't vote for him (dunno or care if it's true). My elementary school self said: "Oh! we definitely can't vote for him then! If gay marriage is legalized, no one will want to date girls anymore!" My thoughts being that men were so awesome and purty, and could both pitch and catch, whereas women could (I thought) only catch. I still think that. How could anyone resist penises? So awesome... I wonder why the "anti gay" attitude never caught on to me. I chose to be anti-gay marriage as I had to, due to my family, but in my child's mind made the reason a SELFISH one that made ME the bad person, rather than trying to say they were bad. I think it was because I started masturbating at a very young age (kindergarten or first grade. Yes, girls do this as kids too o:) so I couldn't IMAGINE pleasure being bad, or denying people pleasure.
[–]edge0576 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
umm... what is this gif from?
[–]Gearov 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I've always wondered that myself.
[–]Wuolle 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Survivor: Gabon
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[–]darkangelx 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Or the god who wasnt there... or the god delusion in audio form...
[–]YourFavBarPunk 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Best use of that gif yet. Hands down.
[–]camleish 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
maher is about as smug as they come. nobody loves bill as much as bill does. his rhetorical strategy does more disservice to the cause, imo, than it needs to. the generalizations and cherry picking he uses make him unwatchable.
[–]Sarevokk 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
I stumbled upon Religulous on this past Good Friday while searching Netflix with the family. My mother, stepfather and sister raged while my stepbrother and I laughed at the silliness of it all. They stood up and left in disgust calling us blasphemers and devil worshipers.
[–]TimeZarg 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
That would have been the perfect time to pull out the Satanic Bible. Or to offer them some fresh 'baby' back ribs off the grill.
[–]Solkre 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
I was going to watch it, then I realized he's a dickhead. He also whined about it being pirated and blindly supported SOPA because he was butt-hurt from the piracy.
[–]eagerbeaver1414 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
This is a major stretch. He didn't blindly support SOPA, but he admitted that there was at least another side to the argument. And he was right. SOPA would have been terrible, but writers and entertainers are effectively having the results of their craft stolen from piracy. He was merely pointing this out.
[–]calicocal 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
So download it and win.
[–]Bitrandombit 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I watched most of it on Netflix. I want my bandwidth back.
Cite?
[–]buckeye-75 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago
Anyone can see that he used morons and clever editing. I still loved it though.
[–]GirthBrooks 44 points45 points46 points 3 months ago
But when 'morons' includes people like Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, you don't need clever editing to make them look moronic.
[–]deanreevesii 16 points17 points18 points 3 months ago
As an Arkansan I nearly choked at the look on his face when he realized how horrible of a mistake it was to say "You don't have to pass an IQ test..." with cameras rolling.
[–]GirthBrooks 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I feel your pain in Maumelle.
[–]nickminunni 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
As a New Yorker i found that hilarious, but sad at the same time...
[–]deanreevesii 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
It was. I want a t-shirt with that shot on it. He realized how badly he stepped in it as soon as the words were out of his mouth.
Haha he just had that "Oh shit, what did i just say" look.
[–]buckeye-75 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago
good point
[–]tsdguy 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago
False. He used precisely the correct person to provide the counterpoint to the particular segment. The problem is that the side these people on naturally lends them to appear as morons when they are asked some pointed and intelligent questions.
Example. Francis Collins currently head of NIH (and leader of the Human Genome Project) is hardly a moron. However, his inability to provide even a molecule of rationale response to Bill's questioning on how a scientist of his level could possible believe that the Bible is true or that religion is as valid as science goes to show just how ridiculous such a position is and people should be mocked and exposed when they are such a side of the argument.
[–]deusnefum 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Plus the point was to show what lots of "normal" people believe, not theologians. People complained he only talked to idiots... well he talked to a lot of idiots and their followers and their votes count as much as ours.
[–]buckeye-75 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
That's a scary reality check
Yup. He even says at the end of the movie that the point was not to convert theists, but to light a fire under atheists. We need to get out there and tell people this level of idiocy is not acceptable.
[–]FrisianDude 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I like that grin. Where is that gif from, though? Edit; nvm. Survivor, TV-Show.
[–]Iazo 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Is the GIF from Surviver: Africa?
[–]wrknhrdorhrdlywrkn 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
[–]MotherFuckinMontana 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I would totally watch Survivor: East Saint Louis
[–]ittakesacrane 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
still the best gif ever
[–]pillowbug 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I think Dawkins does a better job of remaining dignified and presenting arguments alongside evidence but sometime when I watch his interviews with religious people I feel like they see him as kind of harmless almost because he is so calm, and often you can tell that Dawkins evidence just sort of flies over their head because they can't comprehend it. I think sometimes humor, no matter how crude is necessary to expose ignorances, and yes Maher is a jerk but that's exactly what you need sometimes, someone who isn't afraid to point out ignorances directly and laugh at them a bit and be a bit of a dick, because really we have all witnessed that presenting evidence doesn't work with most religious people. I found the movie highly entertaining. I wouldn't call it a documentary though.
[–]CrystalFissure 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Wow, Survivor gif on r/atheism! Awesome.
[–]lanmac 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
My kin watched that as well. I realized at that point of us all agreeing with it, that I have a kick ass kin.
[–]ConditionOfMan 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago*
I don't suppose anyone can remind me of the context of the GIF? I recognize it as being from Survivor: Gabon, but I don't remember what happened to cause those reactions.
Edit: Never mind. I was able to dig it up. The GIF makes it seem like it's something nasty, but it's just their reaction to finding someone was voted out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6xeteechYE#t=3m40s
[–]pullo 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
That movie is more about hating on Christians than presenting an atheist POV. When he interviews his fellow Jews, he interviews a couple sephardic rabbis and mocks them for not being hard core Zionists. I lost a lot of respect for bill maher because of that.
[–]eagerbeaver1414 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I can't disagree more. He rips on Christians, Jews, and Muslims. I suspect an Orthodox Jew may look at it and feel that the movie was anti-semitic. The movie was obviously an attack on religion, but religion in general, showing examples from the Abrahamic religions.
[–]omarfw 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
Bill Maher might be a fucking idiot, but he gets his anti-theism humor right.
[–]billiarddaddy 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Another movie I enjoyed far more as an Atheist than as a Christian.
[–]Popcom 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Bill Maher is a d-bag. Granted, religulous is hysterical, and fun to watch, but he just sets up stupid, uninformed people, then makes them look retarded on camera. He doesn't debate with anyone intelligent at all...although, they are all adults, so i guess they shouldn't be so dumb haha
[–]gm4 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
That's the problem, if you are looking for intelligent people to debate about it who have reasonable arguments, then you aren't talking to many religious people anymore...
[–]scarecrowslayer -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
I'd say you can have intelligent people who are religious, they just aren't intelligent about religion. Take Francis Collins for example. Apparently he believes Noah's Ark is literal. The religious denial of reason shows up in every debate I've seen, even those with 'sophisticated' apologists. But that is what happens when you have no evidence.
[–]gm4 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I understand some people's need for religion, but I don't understand how you can look at how many there have been, how they differ, and still continue. People who don't believe in this stuff are offended by it because it so mercilessly and selfishly demands governance, while the other side are offended by simply the state of the world as it is understood.
[–]Popcom -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
good point haha
He spoke to a scientist who headed up the human genome project. Not an idiot. Even the catholic priest he spoke to was pretty sharp, and didn't come across as an idiot at all. But he did interview a lot of religious people, and religious people have no good rational answers to his questions because religion isn't rational.
[–]The_Atheist_Guy 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago
1) This is the greatest GIF ever!!
2) Great movie. I think Maher is justified in being a dick..just look at who he had to deal with!!
[–]psyfive 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Thanks for pointing this one out to me. I probably would have passed it over otherwise. It's pretty funny so far.
[–]andjok 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I loved that movie! I loved the style, and how there were captions popping up every now and then to comment on what the people were saying, allowing them to keep talking without being insulted on the spot.
[–]tsdguy 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
It's available on Netflix streaming right now for those folks with access.
My whole family went to the theater to see it together. It was the last movie we saw in theaters as a family.
We were DYING laughing. We're all Atheist/Agnostic so it was right up our alley.
[–]Bukowski89 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
that is one of my favorite movies of all time. Bill Maher is hilarious. I liked the scene with the orthodox Jewish dude who attended a "Holocaust Hoax" rally in Afghanistan.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I really loved the movie and laughed the whole time, but I felt like he was pretty insulting
[–]catlan 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I just have to say, as an avid fan of not just Reddit, but also Survivor, I am VERY proud that a Survivor clip was considered by so many to be Reddit-worthy!
[–]Crazy_Steve_13 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Freaking great movie. Let my fundie grandma watch it. Surprisingly, she got a kick out of it and laughed with me at the religious kooks.
[–]Verim 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I find all of this anti Maher sentiment somewhat curious. I am wondering if any of you have ever seen real time? Aside from his opening stand up bits and closing segments, his talk panels are some of the most even among such shows. He's also far less disrespectful than any other commentator who has their own playground. Hell the majority of his sentiments that you people are calling him a jerk for are echoed within /r/atheism. All of the gop's positions regarding birth control and women's rights earlier this year come to mind. So you think just because he is in a position of notoriety that he must be politically correct and respect these ridiculous people? To hell with that!
[–]bradsingh 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Hitchens was right on the money about Bill Maher's smugness, low-hanging fruit jokes and insufferable whooping audience.
The man doesn't even believe in vaccines, ffs.
[–]LordMoe 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
even if I find myself agreeing with Maher, I find his delivery really smug.
[–]Daroo425 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I was at my uncle's house a few months ago and was looking through his DVD collection and noticed this. I was utterly pleased.
[–]BillMaherIsADoucheBa 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Religulous is a weak movie by a pretentious douchebag, who on top of it all pretends to be liberal / left leaning, but still gives 1st-class nazi A-holes like Geert Wilders (google that fucktard if you're interested) another opportunity for propaganda.
That segment of the movie was the last i saw, before i turned it off and deleted it from my HDD. Glad I didn't pay for that drivel. Fuck Maher and his friend Wilders.
[–]thoughtofchange 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I love the part where the politician basically calls himself an idiot!
[–]BeadleBelfry 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Eh... I watched it myself awhile ago, and I wasn't quite sure how to feel. mostly I think it was because Maher leans between being an asshole and being a good guy. I can't decide which one he is. He is a douche when he can get away with it, but then he was rather kind and non-confrontational around those guys at the truck-stop.
[–]two_canoes 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
this movie made me lose quite a bit of respect for Bill Maher, in all honesty. the editing done in the movie was clearly biased, and unnecessarily so, as Bill Maher is a smart man capable of very intelligent arguments. He mostly just seemed like a douche barging into people's lives and explaining why he is so much smarter than them. even though that may be true in many cases, there's no reason to be a dick about it, to be arrogant about it. in fact, approaching such circumstances with more humility, without an expected endgame and simply intelligent discourse with a reasonable selection of religious people, would have been much more effective, both on those people he spoke with, and me as a viewer. it was like watching an NBA player make a video on how good he is at basketball, crushing middle schoolers and handicapped kids, with several edits to himself, alone in the car after the game is over, describing more moves he could have done to school them. pretty disappointing experience, but i guess i was expecting to be impressed given how well-versed i consider Maher to be at argumentation.
So you watched a straw man take on religious believers by focusing on extreme fundamentalists and it now makes you feel better about not having faith?
[–]CrudOMatic 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Dude, Maher is an idiot. There are plenty of much-MUCH better movies on the subject than Maher's. He looked stupid throughout a lot of the movie - like he couldn't even form an argument - and when he did argue, he ceded or was beaten into silence by ridiculous arguments. Not only that, but he was subtly ridiculing people without coming out and doing it blatantly - all with that "I'm superior" smirk on his face.
Maher = Moron.
When someone offers as an argument something to the effect of "two plus two = five" and offers as evidence for this believe "because", how are you supposed to react?
[–]ameliamirerye 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
great freaking movie
[–]SoleilSocrates 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Does anybody know where I can get this Documentary?
[–]Lilou88 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
If you have Netflix, it's on there for streaming last I knew.
Nope don't have it!:(
[–]Lilou88 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Damn, that's the only place I know of it online other than buying it from some place like Amazon. I don't know many good streaming websites, the only one I found that looked like it wouldn't give you a virus had the video removed because of copy right infringements. If you're interested, Amazon has it for rent for $1.99 or buying it for $9.99, worth it in my opinion.
Thank you kind sir or mam!!:D It is nice to know!
You are quite welcome good sir / madame! Enjoy! It was one of the documentaries that helped me evolve my already atheist-leaning mentality. Some of the criticisms do have a point, but I enjoy it still.
hahaaha that is nice to know... I am 15 year old woman!:d Thank you!
[–]tsdguy -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago
Incorrect. Just looked and there it is:
http://movies.netflix.com/WiSearch?v1=Religulous&oq=reli&ac_posn=1&ac_rec=true&ac_count=[5,0,0,0]&ac_match=false
Cool now if I had it I could watch it!:D
[–]tsdguy 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Different issue. 8-) DVD is available at Amazon. Check your local library - they probably have a copy.
Thanks buddie!
It's worth getting. I found it a very inspiring and interesting "documentary". I'm no big fan of Maher but the points he raised in the movie are very insightful and spot on.
hahaha thank you, and that is why I want to get it!:D
[–]ever_l 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
and if library doesn't have it, you should still be able to request it from there, too. Some library in the area probably does.
Yeah it probably does!!:D
Yes it is. I just looked. SoieilSocrates is wrong
[–]Chicen 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/movies/2008/religulous.html
[–]6offender -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 months ago
That movie was kinda weak.
[–]cockyjeremy 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
The only thing that was weak about that movie was the brains of retards he interviewed.
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