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[–][deleted] 590 points591 points ago

The worst field to go into is one you hate. (kumbaya, mofo)

[–]Crolle 362 points363 points ago

The worst field to go into is the mine field. (peace, bitches)

[–]ScottCarmichael 166 points167 points ago

The worst mine to go into is the one in Moria. (balrog, run you fools)

[–]derp-a-lerp 120 points121 points ago

(balrog, fly you fools)

FTFY

[–]KeyboardChemistry 1 point2 points ago

If I'm not mistaken, he says "run you fools" in the book, which was changed to "fly you fools" in the movie because it sounds more like something Gandalf would say (ironically enough).

[–]HeyCitizen 2 points3 points ago

How could they fly without his goddamned mega-eagle? Silly senile Gandalph.

[–]Equipmunk 14 points15 points ago

*Gandalf

[–]HeyCitizen 22 points23 points ago

Uhm yeah. So no Phrodo?

[–]Gloinyo 6 points7 points ago

He prefers Brodo.

[–]Mine_is_nice 1 point2 points ago

lived in phangorn forest?

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[–]ilovetoragedump 70 points71 points ago

I got my degree in painting and I don't have a job in the related field. I show/sell my work in galleries from time to time and I work as a manager of a campus owned coffee shop. I don't owe any money for grants/loans, I love my day job, I can afford to support myself and my SO, and I still get to make money doing what I love everyday.

I went into this field expecting to work a day job so I could do what I love. I paint because it makes me happy and fulfilled, not because I want to make money off it. The occasional money is simply an added bonus. Since I paint for myself, not to please anyone else, I get complete artistic freedom to paint as I please.

TL;DR I make a mean latte for my day job and come home and paint my heart out. My life rules.

[–]saltyjohnson 4 points5 points ago

come home and paint my heart out

That sounds dangerous.

[–]RobbieGee 2 points3 points ago

This kills the human.

[–]PrimeIntellect 18 points19 points ago

People definitely make a living off their art, I live with a guy who makes pottery and sells prayer wheels for $2-3000 a piece, who owns his own home, and gets to work from home all day making art. I know a painter who lives similarly, and a TON of glassblowers that makes a lot of money.

[–]latticusnon 11 points12 points ago

But those are trade artists. Not only do you not need an art degree for that, but getting one will not teach you the skills you would want to do those things most of the time.

[–]RobertJ93 4 points5 points ago

Yes but an art degree will (in the right circumstances) cultivate a certain environment of creativity that will grow the artist and develop them in a mature way, more so than say going to a few nightly art classes at a college.

It may also allow them to (in many cases) specialise in a masters in a particular field that will hone their skills even more, and will give them a stepping ladder towards more artistically influenced jobs (be it trade or not).

Just my thoughts, I'm not sure how majors work in USA, I'm from the uk so we can take a degree then do a masters year in a related field.

Tl;dr: it's a 20 second read its up to you, I don't mind.

[–]PrimeIntellect 3 points4 points ago

True, I also know those with degrees with awesome jobs though, graphic designers make serious money.

[–]monsda[!] 1 point2 points ago

Yeah I rented a spare room from a glassblower. He rented a studio nearby with a couple other glass artists, and sold his stuff directly.

[–]Thatsalottanuts 4 points5 points ago

I think that everyone has his or her own values. For some people, having a steady income allows them to focus on things they love, like family, for example, while other people love making art or something of that sort. However, I don't think you can ever make blanket statements about what is best for everyone. Especially since not everything revolves around money, as you seem to suggest.

[–]curt93 4 points5 points ago

This should clearly be the top comment in this post.

[–]braumeister 119 points120 points ago

I'm not sure you're allowed to be condescending until you actually graduate the program.

Even then, you're still a dick if you try.

[–]Dr_Hibbert_Voice 284 points285 points ago

Art major complaining about engineers. Sounds like an architect to me.

[–]FuckYouImAPorygon 216 points217 points ago

Classic Schmosby.

[–]_psyFungi 37 points38 points ago

<stereotype joke>

Architects: Too straight to be fashion designers, too gay to be engineers

</stereotype joke>

[–]Rape_Van_Winkle 22 points23 points ago

Huh hehehehehe.....if you are going to have the name "Dr_Hibbert_Voice", you must end every comment like that

[–]Crepti 14 points15 points ago

And as Rape_Van_Winkle, you using the same noise is just plain creepy.

[–]verrukt 32 points33 points ago

Why ate engineers so spiteful towards architects? I always see them bickering on here.

[–]gkx 59 points60 points ago

Architects get bigger projects depending on what they've worked on, so they want to do their job as well as possible. A lot of times, you have multiple systems fighting for the same space in a building, so one's got to give. Many times, these systems are controlled by two different architects working under a larger architect, and each architect wants their system to work well so they get props. Engineers are the ones that actually make that happen, so the architects get cutthroat and tell the engineers to do things that are either impossible or contradict what the other architect said to do. Architects will often blame this on the engineer, engineers will often blame this on the architect.

[–]Dr_Hibbert_Voice 15 points16 points ago

Then, lastly, they call in the structrual engineer and say, "hey, dude, at the last minute we altered the column lines and are cutting holes in your beams. Oh, also, can we thin the slab 2"? Oh, and we really need to put a huge torque on this beam to attach the medical equipment, but, unfortunately, there's no room to kick it. What can we do? Need today, thanks, bro."

[–]speedstix 9 points10 points ago

Sounds like my typical day job. EIT designing electrical for buildings.

[–]gkx 21 points22 points ago

It's why I'm so glad that I'm Computer Science... Soooo far removed from the constraints of the physical world.

(software, not hardware, for extra abstraction)

[–]Dairith 19 points20 points ago

Software Engineer here, all the glamour of a Computer Science degree but it has the word Engineering tacked on to the end. In short, the best of both worlds.

[–]gkx 9 points10 points ago

Hey, Software Engineering is engineering. It's solving problems!

[–]Girolmao 6 points7 points ago

The exact reason why I'm in Software Engineering. Software Development with the title of Engineer. Cha-ching Sparkle Sparkle!

[–]endingthread 2 points3 points ago

Or Computer Engineering, which is a combination of everything. I'm in first year though.

[–]FUUFighter 1 point2 points ago

This. It's really the best of all worlds (theory, software and hardware).

Howdy from a fellow Computer Engineering student!

[–]rockguitardude 11 points12 points ago

Architect: "Here's a shaft for your ductwork and conduit risers next to the column."

Engineer: "There are beams coming in from all four directions into the column."

Architect: "I'd like to have a conference call with our structural engineer to discuss."

Engineer: Puts bullet in head

[–]curbstickle 6 points7 points ago

Architects will often blame this on the engineer, engineers will often correctly blame this on the architect.

ftfy.

Seriously, if I hear one more time how they don't understand why I need two 1-1/4" conduit and not one 2", why I need support and blocking, or "why can't you just do it wirelessly?"....

.... then I'm probably back at work on Tuesday. /sigh.

[–]Dr_Hibbert_Voice 17 points18 points ago

Ha, most of the spiteful bickering here is between college kids hearing stories from their profs. Wait til you do it a few years in the field with deadlines and budgets. searches for stronger word than spite

[–]1badls2goat 1 point2 points ago

Art vandelay

[–]Kalivha 4 points5 points ago

I just had a materials chemistry prof complain to me over dinner that my field (computational chemistry) is ... I'm not even sure. I think he said there are too many jobs in my field and we are too useful, but he is superior or something.

[–]Incredible_Mandible 34 points35 points ago

I have seen this gif a thousand times, but I don't know the context. Anyone know it?

[–]Pinyaka 85 points86 points ago

I had just explained to her that I'm better than a vibrator.

[–]Spimyjamz 15 points16 points ago

The gif is from a Hunger Games Q&A. Someone in the crowd said something to her, but you can't hear it in the video.

[–]Deluxx00 8 points9 points ago

From what I can tell it's because he said "I had to eat a lot of regular chicken" - she's saying that he wasn't eating as healthy as he's claiming

[–]Cooler-Beaner 1 point2 points ago

He ask if she wanted to go on a date.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

lol that hemsworth guy has no personality. he just sits there and looks attractive, thats his job.

[–]Jazzremix 9 points10 points ago

"He's adopted"

[–]greenfan033 4 points5 points ago

Someone asks her to marry them. Found it from a comment on an earlier repost of this gif.

[–]KousKous 42 points43 points ago

God damnit guys, we do not have enough women in our field to alienate everyone else.

[–]MonkeyInATopHat 4 points5 points ago

Especially since art majors have the best lookin' women...

[–]Crackp0t 250 points251 points ago

Making fun of art majors while stating you're an engineering major on reddit? SO BRAVE!

[–]TipYourHatToMe 62 points63 points ago

Scumbag reddit talks shit about art majors while upvoting art to the front page everyday.

[–]Ambiguous_Figures 14 points15 points ago

Being a condescending bag of dicks isn't justified by someone else being a condescending bag of dicks.

[–]takoma 1051 points1052 points ago

This didn't happen. Pandering to the large lolwesosmart engineering demographic circlejerk on reddit. 1/10 for making me reply.

[–]bloodlok2 17 points18 points ago

Art major here. I had the whole "this didn't happen" post typed out but rage quit before posting. Nobody is that fucking stupid.

[–]Molecology 1 point2 points ago

No, they are. Cell and Molecular Biology/Biomedical engineering here. I have had this argument with gender studies folk. Strangely enough, I respect art majors if you do what you love. I HATE the people who go to college and waste all that money by doing useless studies that can be passed while asleep.

[–]OnkelDittmeyer 212 points213 points ago

the only art major dumb enough to say that is me, and i dont remember saying it!

checkmate engineers!

[–]hairyassandballs 19 points20 points ago

what if you're so dumb, that you forgot?

i mean, you are an art major

[–]OnkelDittmeyer 68 points69 points ago

naaa, would have painted it onto something

[–]hairyassandballs 16 points17 points ago

probably sold it though when you were running low on ramen.

guess we will never know

[–]I_MAKE_USERNAMES 5 points6 points ago

lol people don't buy art major's paintings for money

[–]COto503 3 points4 points ago

sure they do. Not always, but sometimes.

[–]smileyfrown 2 points3 points ago

Exactly why he sold it for ramen

[–]AlisonCreates 17 points18 points ago

If you were an art major, you would realize that under an art degree there is:...

Film 3d animation 2d animation Fashion Game design Architecture Illustration Metalworking Jewelry making Graphic design Etc!

Art is Not the worst major to go into. It's one of the two best, if you're good enough.

During the last depression, one of the only industries that were thriving throughout WAS:... [drumb roll, please!]

THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY!!! [Confetti dropping from the sky]

So sorry, better luck next time.

Edit: Also see the top two thriving industries in our current recession: Games Movies

Source: http://seekingalpha.com/article/118431-five-industries-that-can-thrive-in-a-recession

[–]bloomtrader 16 points17 points ago

Any industry is the best if you're good enough. I'd argue that playing basketball instead of going to school is best, if you're Lebron James.

[–]dmcnelly 7 points8 points ago

At least during the regular season...

[–]NolanRoss 45 points46 points ago

There are way more art majors than there are jobs.

Source: I went to starbucks once.

[–]unheimlich 19 points20 points ago

Either major requires talent, skill, and hard work to be successful. People working at Starbucks could be from any major, and possibly lack those qualities.

[–]dmcnelly 14 points15 points ago

People working at Starbucks may also have not gone to college. People seem to forget this.

[–]Freakazette 3 points4 points ago

Or, you know, they actually want to work at Starbucks. I know plenty of people working there who want to move up the ladder.

[–]unheimlich 2 points3 points ago

Sure, but this was mostly about college grads working at Starbucks. Not many people who pay for college these days would be satisfied moving up the ladder at Starbucks, though I'm certainly not saying it doesn't happen, or should be frowned upon in any way.

[–]allADD 1 point2 points ago

Does everyone on Reddit go into Starbucks in the morning thinking it's just full of underqualified art majors filled with shame? Sometimes it's a jumping off point for other things, or a job people have while they're still in college, or a way to pay off loans. Coffee shops aren't some dumping ground for people resigned to never accomplish anything for the rest of their lives. Kinda weird that they've adopted that stereotype. It's not like they're an actual restaurant, where at least the chances of cooks and ex-cons being stuck in food service forever is slightly higher.

[–]omplatt 31 points32 points ago

Way more people than there are jobs.

[–]leet_hacksaw 6 points7 points ago

Suddenly, op's scenario is looking a little more realistic.

[–]bjordion 2 points3 points ago

no commas under an art degree?

[–]hoboblow 46 points47 points ago

frontpage reddit feels almost unreadable. half old obnoxious memes, half petty revenge fantasies

[–]pureprotest 10 points11 points ago

what happened to the kitty cats?

[–]zfusfeld 1 point2 points ago

looks like you've got some unsubscribing to do broseph

[–]turkeybiscuits 135 points136 points ago

My engineering friends always act like entitled assholes, now I can't even escape it on reddit. :(

[–]FalcoLX 21 points22 points ago

I'm an engineer and agree most are condescending, even to other engineering fields that they deem below their own. Chemical engineers are the worst offenders from my experience.

[–]davelm42 2 points3 points ago

I would have to agree with this. There seems to be an engineering hierarchy...

Chemical Engineer
Electrical Engineer
Computer Engineer
Mechanical Engineer
Civil Engineer

[–]gregbenson314 1 point2 points ago

As a ChemEng student, I agree

[–]Nautis 7 points8 points ago

Your "friends" are not representative of all engineers. I'm sure most of us know at least a few people from most majors who besmirch the reputation of their field.

[–]ScottCarmichael 22 points23 points ago

I dunno - I distinctly remember an engineering kid that lived in the same dorm as me my freshman year and boy, he was a prick and know-it-all. He wasn't all bad, you just couldn't ever have a deep conversation with him on anything.

Just because one is smart at engineering/math/etc. doesn't mean they are smart at everything.

[–]twist3dl0gic 3 points4 points ago

It's rude to put quotation marks around "friends". OP said "act like entitled assholes", which is significantly different than "acts like an asshole" which is significantly different than "is an asshole". OP probably doesn't have asshole friends, just friends that act like assholes about their education. Everyone's an asshole about something. No need to claim someone has fake friends because of that.

[–]turkeybiscuits 3 points4 points ago

Internet fist bump

[–]twist3dl0gic 1 point2 points ago

I've never gotten one before! I hope I don't screw it up.

[–]Nautis 1 point2 points ago

I apologize, I misread his statement.

[–]twist3dl0gic 1 point2 points ago

I'm sorry, too. Sometimes when I reddit drunkenly, I decide to be a white knight. A white lady? I don't know. Sometimes I decide to stick up for people or correct things that are wrong. The whiskey brings out the fight in you.

[–]soggy_cereal 1 point2 points ago

Oh my god. You supported his argument that engineers are condescending in the first two words of your response. Bravo.

[–]apullin 39 points40 points ago

It's great that people are finally getting wise to this. Finally.

[–]usedtowork 9 points10 points ago

Pandering to the large lolwesosmart wannabe engineering demographic

ftfy

sorry kids but knowing how to put a new ROM on your Android doesn't make you an engineer

[–]010222545545 12 points13 points ago

its come full circle. full circle jerk. its everywhere now. the upvotes were just too tempting for the weak ones.

[–]reddt_hates_illegals 1 point2 points ago

OP wishes there were hot girls like that in his engineering classes

[–]corinroyal 95 points96 points ago

If more art majors were better engineers, and more engineers were better artists, the world would be a more wonderful place.

[–]Willy_Tee 29 points30 points ago

Industrial Design!

[–]thesundeity 47 points48 points ago

we have enough couches.

[–]ScottCarmichael 13 points14 points ago

But this one is round, covered in yak fur and looks like it was ripped off the set of A Clockwork Orange!

[–]allADD 2 points3 points ago

It dispenses milk?

[–]doucheyhipster 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, but do we have enough toasters?

What if I told you we could make a toaster that actually made grilled cheese when turned sideways without burning your house down?

[–]StickyToffee 1 point2 points ago

Or you could just use one of those handy toastie pouches, or an oven, or a frying pan...

[–]you_all_annoy_me 6 points7 points ago

Fuck that. My free-body diagrams are on point.

[–]FridayNightSargin 436 points437 points ago

Besides the fact that this never happened - don't be a douchebag. You're making the rest of us engineers look bad. Is the point of living to fucking work hard and make money? Do you win life by making money? Is that the whole point of living? What ever happened to enjoying life for all its riches?

Maybe he's happy being an art major. Fuck, maybe he'll make more money than you, if that's all that matters.

Don't be so condescending and judgemental.

[–]seagramsextradrygin 41 points42 points ago

Not all engineers are in it to make money or win life.. Many of us just enjoy it... I'm always insulted when people insinuate that such a thing is not possible.

[–]EngineerDave 2 points3 points ago

I typically work 60 - 80 hours a week and love every minute of it. It really doesn't feel like work most of the time, and to me that's what life's all about. (plus the pay rocks.)

[–]barrows_arctic 8 points9 points ago

"I wish it would dawn upon engineers that, in order to be an engineer, it is not enough to be an engineer."

[–]miketgainer 4 points5 points ago

As a spy who's killed many an arrogant engineer, I can confirm this.

[–]kg333 1 point2 points ago

As an IRL engineer who plays spy, this is very true. Engineer is not enough.

[–]montysaurus 1 point2 points ago

as an IRL spy who likes to relax by playing a friendly game and find creating with the engineer a good distraction from all the destruction I've caused: QUIT GIVING ME FLASHBACKS!

[–]Timett_son_of_Timett 9 points10 points ago

Art major here. Chasing my dream. I only judge people who do something because they think it is "better" than other things and not because they actually want to do it. I know teachers who wanted to be teachers cause they thought it'd be easy not because they love teaching.... and they suck.

You, Sir, are a good man. Thanks for being awesome.

[–]LoneWolfComando 6 points7 points ago

I don't disagree with what you're saying. But if the art major came up to him and was talking down to the OP's engineering major, i think saying yeah, okay and leaving it at that would be a fairly high road to take. According to the post the engineer isn't attacking the art major but is defending his engineering major.

But since this probably never happened, that makes it a shot at an art major out of no where which is where you come in, and we agree.

[–]Hornell 12 points13 points ago

My experience with this arguement is typically from someone who landed a great factory job/construction right out of high school and wants to gloat about what a waste education is.

"you've got debt and I've got a brand new half ton in my driveway."

[–]Immynimmy 20 points21 points ago

Software Engineer here. The engineers on reddit are such assholes.

[–]bhsfb33 9 points10 points ago

Mmm, Jennifer Lawrence

[–]this_is_fake_and_gay 36 points37 points ago

Never happened.

[–]Moonohol 1 point2 points ago

Relevant username.

[–]tunabuttons 89 points90 points ago

Yeah, because if what other people want to do is different from what I want to do, they are objectively wrong! Dude, you are just as big of a douchebag as the art major you made up.

[–]franksarock 15 points16 points ago

Engineering is such a great life decision. That must be why there are so many threads full of em running to each other to validate their life decisions. A field full of people so secure, that they cannot handle off the cuff remarks suggesting they haven't made the best possible life decision? Alrighty.

[–]StanDinfamy 48 points49 points ago

I got a music degree, just as "useless" as an art degree. I am employed doing what I love and am (or at least perceive my self to be) much happier than my friends who went and studied engineering (or other "high paying" degrees).

[–]rampansbo 18 points19 points ago

I went for illustration, currently freelancing, not making much at all yet and am working most of the time I am awake. I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything. High-five for useless, rewarding jobs!

[–]lleeeeeoo 1 point2 points ago

Hi, I'm going to be transferring to an art school to study illustration. Out of curiosity, do you mind sharing a link to your work=?

[–]rampansbo 1 point2 points ago

Sure thing!

[–]ScottCarmichael 6 points7 points ago

What kind of jobs are there for people with music-related degrees? The college I went to had a "Music Industry Management" program and I never knew what the grads went on to do.

Is the only career in music for most people simply becoming part of a local orchestra or something?

[–]LoudMatt 16 points17 points ago

Almost every school, college, and university has at least one full time musician on staff and some part timers (if not several of both).

Almost every church with more than 500 attending each week (or 2+ services a week) has a full time musician and likely some part timers (or contractors) as well (and many are paid surprisingly well).

Those big cruise ships? Loaded with full time musicians.

The headlining shows in Vegas, NYC, and elsewhere? Most of those folks are making bank.

Hospitals, assisted living facilities, and other big medical places sometimes have a Music Therapist (full time when they have them) or even a part time Thanatologist on hand.

The majestic symphony orchestras? Also loaded with well compensated musicians.

The countless academic journals, music magazines, print music publishers, music book publishers, and the like also generally employ musicians.

Piano tuners? Some of the best musicians I know, and most of them make a decent full time living at their craft. Organ builders, luthiers, even the sales people at music stores; they're musicians too.

The numerous recording studios and their sound engineers? Those guys count as well.

The small, private music schools out there (where you take li'l Slappy to go learn flugelhorn)? Yes, they too have at least one full time musician on staff, as well as numerous contractor teachers.

All that music you hear in tv, movies, and video games? It's not created by a computer. Some composer somewhere made it, and maybe even other live musicians helped to record it.

From the stadium filling bands, to the bands backing up big names, to the touring cult-following hipster bands? They too make money (though I don't envy their lifestyles).

You may be shocked to learn that there's a lot of music out there that people are getting paid for that you would never even consider. I know guys in polka bands (POLKA! SERIOUSLY!) who tour non-stop and make great money.

Music Management? They go on to manage orchestras, theaters, choirs, recording studios, print music publishers, online music ventures, touring companies, and much more.

Many musicians have incredible, busy careers. I work all the time because:

  1. There are tons of opportunities for musicians.
  2. It's fun!

I work an incredible full time job in music and am paid extremely well for it. I also teach a couple of music classes at a local university, not out of need, but because I love teaching this class. I also have a few private students (I don't take many, just the motivated ones), and work as a director in local theaters too. My schedule though it may seem loaded, is actually very manageable with lots of downtime and tremendous flexibility (even with the college I teach at) though there are some "crunch times" for sure. Overall, I make six figures a year making music. It's nice.

Most professional musicians I know work full time; mostly in schools, universities, and churches. Others I know gig (some tour pretty extensively), have some students, perhaps direct a choir / orchestra / band / etc., maybe play pt in a church, and maybe teach a few classes here and there. They generally make a decent full time living at it. I also know others who are just very talented, yet for whatever reason, didn't go into music full time, but still gig actively as part time players in orchestras, bands, etc.

There's quite a bit of work in music out there for the talented and motivated. Sometimes, it's a great full time job. Other times, you have to be an entrepreneur. More often than both, it's a combination. I, however, wouldn't change what I do for all the test tubes and protractors in the world...

...I couldn't afford the pay cut.

(jk science-types, you know I love you)

[–]ScottCarmichael 1 point2 points ago

Thanks for the lengthy reply. I didn't really consider all the different companies/organizations that had a need for a full-time musician on staff.

[–]riotous_jocundity 2 points3 points ago

Not at all. A strong music program at a decent school will typically have a music education program (for aspiring directors, teachers, etc.), a performance program (for performers, obviously), a music business program (recording companies, contracts, basic business stuff, etc.), and occasionally, a Sound Recording Technology program for sound engineers. There are many other sub-fields that I haven't mentioned but like all things, you get out of your training what you put into it. I was briefly a music major and all of my friends that have graduated in the program recently have jobs, which is more than I can say for a lot of people. The jobs range from high school choir/band director (my friends who majored in music education ALL had jobs lined up the semester before they graduated), to recording technician, to professional chorus member, to private music teachers, to church music director, to baristas who play with chamber orchestras on the weekends at weddings. Major companies may not be searching desperately to hire people who majored in Early Church Music, but there actually is a market for professionally trained musicians.

[–]Daelfas 5 points6 points ago

Bonus points if you're a sound engineer.

[–]zeppelinfromled 2 points3 points ago

For what it's worth, my life would be miserable if I were an artist or musician. I didn't choose a "high paying" field because it was high paying. I chose it because I like it, and I'm perfectly happy with it. But I also don't derive happiness solely from what I do to make money.

[–]SpiderJohn 37 points38 points ago

When you attack someone for following their sincere interests, you are the definition of an asshole.

[–]nathanhardy 16 points17 points ago

Art major is rather vague. He could be fine art, design, art education, architecture, art history, or any other field. He also could end up making more money than you. Upper level art directors can make an easy six figures.

SOURCE: I'm an art director.

[–]kg333 1 point2 points ago

Upper level art directors can make an easy six figures.

Mid-tier engineers usually can too. If someone's really looking for consistent salary figures, engineering's the way to go.

That said, if you're in art or engineering because of the money, you're in for a world of hurt.

[–]nathanhardy 1 point2 points ago

Good point. In the end, do what you love.

[–]Aznreaper 1 point2 points ago

In Alberta, Canada, engineers in the oil and gas field start out of school with wages of ~80,000 a year, so compare that with an art's degree's starting wage. Whenever you get high enough in your field, there is a pretty good chance that you're going to be making tons of money. I would guess upper level engineer's can be making equivalent if not more money

[–]Nictionary 1 point2 points ago

As a soon-to-be engineering student in Calgary AB, I can confirm that this is what I was told.

[–]Martino231 4 points5 points ago

The best field to go into is the one which best helps to let you live the life you want to live.

If engineering is your passion then that's cool, but it's pretty damn pretentious to assume that anyone studying in a field where there isn't a surplus of jobs right now is beneath you.

[–]LittlePieceOfMe 11 points12 points ago

When I posted the engineers vs. art majors reddit cirlcejerk with a gif that has been upvoted a bajillion times before.

Plus inevitable "You must be an Art Major" comment reply.

[–]EOMIS 9 points10 points ago

I'm an engineer, and it's pretty awful. Should have been a doctor. You know, where you get respect from the general population and they don't take you out back and shoot you on your 40th birthday.

[–]udradn 5 points6 points ago

WOW WHAT A NICE GIF I HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE.

[–]mattbluesman 4 points5 points ago

Dick

[–]omplatt 13 points14 points ago

[–]gamergrl1018 3 points4 points ago

As an engineering student dating an artist... both fields are "worthwhile" work. He captures humanity in a beautifully realistic medium, I work on ways to make humanity a little more efficient.

It's cheesy but true - engineering helps us live our lives, art makes that life worth it. Every single person enjoys art in some way or another...and every person benefits from engineering in some way or another. To discount either on the basis of salary is ridiculous in my opinion.

[–]Treberto 2 points3 points ago

For some reason there is this ridiculous art vs science battle that goes on in the minds of college students.

Both are fucking amazing. Appreciate both and realize both make the world a wonderful place.

Props to you and your boyfriend.

[–]gamergrl1018 1 point2 points ago

Thank you, seriously...I appreciate that. Of course...my parents don't understand it as much and would rather that I dated a doctor or fellow engineer or whatever. But oh well, too bad, I am very proud of my boyfriend for what he does.

[–]treesihugem 2 points3 points ago

that's a power couple right there.

[–]silent_p 2 points3 points ago

See, with an engineering degree, it might be easier to get a job, but the down side they don't tell you about is that at that job, you probably have to do engineering.

[–]Silversuns 31 points32 points ago

Op is a cliched, unoriginal, retarded cunt.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

So he's a redditor.

[–]Elvvood 21 points22 points ago

"An engineering major is better than an art major."

"On what criteria are you basing this?"

"An engineering major clearly has more job opportunities, as it teaches many logic-based skills needed for today's job market, while an art degree does not offer such security or challenge, which I also value."

"Why does that criteria define what is the better major?"

"It is because I value monetary security for my future, which is why I seek a degree in the first place."

"But, what if another values something higher than monetary security when they are choosing a major?"

"Then they are free to choose whatever they wish, but it is not what I am basing my statement of 'An engineering major is better than an art major.'"

"Then what else is a statement such as what major is better than not subjective?"

"It is subjective, but as I value my monetary security over other values, I will always see an engineering degree as more valuable than an art degree."

"Then is another person right in claiming the same for another degree, if they have different values than you?"

"They are right if their values differ."

"Then what purpose does your statement have?"

[–]ScottCarmichael 3 points4 points ago

"It is subjective, but as I value my monetary security over other values, I will always see an engineering degree as more valuable than an art degree."

There is truth in this --- a field where opportunities and pay is low/hard to get a livable wage IS something to be concerned about. However, that is not the end all be all of job quality/satisfaction and the OP is kinda jerky for implying that.

[–]Circu 9 points10 points ago

Philosophical "fuck off" for the win.

/Socrates

[–]WhereTheSanityBegins 2 points3 points ago

Not certainly why i watched her for five minutes..

[–]sme00 2 points3 points ago

i've seen this gif many times... but what is the source of it??? just wondering. :) thanks in advance.

[–]AliAppelcore 2 points3 points ago

God. I wish other art majors would stop making the rest of us look like coffee serving fools.

[–]SpackDaddy 2 points3 points ago

I doubt this happened you just want the karma

[–]BrushGod 2 points3 points ago

I beg to differ. I, myself, transferred from Engineering to Graphic Design. Don't get me wrong, Engineering is a really good major, however I felt that Graphic Design suited me more. Engineering is Innovation and Art is Creative. Together make best of the world.

[–]bull_shiit 2 points3 points ago

Bullshit.

[–]arloun 2 points3 points ago

I see tons of my friends from high school who went into engineering but love working in arts. I'm one of the few that went to film school and I'm thousands of times happier than they are sitting in lecture halls all day learning concepts that they may or may never use. Some of them have even started to bail on their major and switch to arts cause they are so damn miserable. While I'm sure engineering is great cause it almost allows employment on graduation, I think with enough passion and hard work one can do that same thing in arts. So what if its more competitive? I like the challenge.

[–]treesihugem 2 points3 points ago

anyone know what jennifer lawrence was actually being sassy at?

[–]deernatalie 2 points3 points ago

I'm just graduated with an art degree, I love what I do and in the last year have made just over £300 by randomly selling paintings, prints and laser cut bages.. A friend of mine is an engineering student who absolutely DESPISES what he does but studies it cos his parents threatened to cut him off if he chose to do music instead, which is what he really loves. I find that pretty tragic. It's only a good career path if you actually enjoy it. He's gonna have pissed £30,000 up a wall when he graduates. All because he wanted that extra bit of money from mummy and daddy to spend on weed.

[–]halcyondriac 6 points7 points ago

No engineer will ever be that hot. Art major...maybe...

[–]nazishark 4 points5 points ago

yeah man, fuck that art bullshit, nobody gets paid to do that shit, animated films and graphic novels, graphic design logos they all grow off fucking trees. in my country some of the highest rates of unemployed graduates are the engineers, why? because countless people do it and there aren't enough jobs to employ everyone. I would say that you have a stick up your ass sir, but thats a gross understatement, you have the entire taiga up your ass, fuck your douchebag swagger, fuck your grossly overrated degree, and fuck you.

[–]electrikmayhem 8 points9 points ago

OMG U GUISE WER ALL SO SMART AMIRITE?

[–]MOSTLY_LOWERCASE_GUY 1 point2 points ago

YES, WE ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL AND GENIUS US. YOU JUS NOT AS GENIUS AND BEYOOTIFUL AS ME.

[–]SaidOdysseus 1 point2 points ago

Maybe they were just trying to tell you that engineers are the worst, which as an engineer I would PROBABLY HAVE TO AGREE WITH.

[–]donwess 1 point2 points ago

to be fair, trolling is a art

[–]Watches_FoxNews 1 point2 points ago

I don't think anyone can make the claim from the GIF as its up to the person what they value. However I have met way to many arts majors who deeply regret their decision after graduating and facing the realities of their degree. If Arts is what you want to do then I salute you and hope you are happy and successful but be aware of what you are doing and the risks you are taking as school is not cheap and that much debt can cripple a person financially for years after graduation. I chose Engineering and I have never met as many arrogant elitists in my life as I have the last four years so I can definitely say I understand why someone would have distaste for Engineers.

[–]scrott 1 point2 points ago

Everyone I know always gives shit to the "art kids" because of their terrible job prospects but, honestly, my "art kid" fiancee makes more than double my salary in NYC her first year out of school. All of her friends are doing just as well doing design work. So next time you want to give shit to someone based on some silly preconceptions, give it a second thought.

[–]Seruz 1 point2 points ago

Damn She is beautiful, who is She?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

oh hey it's this gif again.

i was wondering how this gif was getting on, it's been all of two days since the last time it was on the front page.

good to see its still getting work.

i look forward to seeing it on the front page again in another two days.

[–]Punkgoblin 1 point2 points ago

But, could she suck a good dick?

[–]grania17 1 point2 points ago

Depends on the engineering field you went into. I know an engineering major who couldn't get a job after college and is now back studying computers.

[–]jeffsballs 1 point2 points ago

Not sure if I upvoted because gif was funny, or girl was hot.

[–]ztm16 1 point2 points ago

jennifer lawrence oh damn

[–]pabloe168 1 point2 points ago

If your destiny is working at Starbucks there's little you can do. destiny= the outcome and consequences whether good or bad of what you do everyday. EVERY. SINGLE. ACTION. MATTERS. If you never cared, you never really thought about your future, and your not lucky enough to be born with inalienable talents, then yeah it doesn't matter if you get in engineering, or art. Your not going to have a very bright future just because you are you. If you are not born with natural great talents (like almost all of us do) then your gonna have to work your ass off, acquire skills and become talented. If you do so, your life is not going to suck, guaranteed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

I CAME HERE TO CIRCLEJERK ABOUT ENGINEERING AND FUCK BITCHES.

[–]canadope 1 point2 points ago

That's strange.. I only see engineering majors make these condescending posts. Keep circle jerkin!

[–]catsinmyunderpants 1 point2 points ago

well its boring as fuck, so she/he was right.

[–]MattAlexander 1 point2 points ago

funny, that's pretty much how my successful artist friends responded when engineers told them they were wasting their time. Of course now they're all like, "Dude, you draw pictures/make animations/edit commercials for a living? That's AWESOME!"

[–]demon1255 1 point2 points ago

After reading these replies, I'm proud of Reddit today.

[–]parcel_duchomp 1 point2 points ago

The problem with the majority of "art majors" is that it is filled with idiots who think that it is an easy degree. There is only about 30% of actual artists within a college's art department. Of the 30% only half will ever find any kind of success in the "real" world. And by that, I mean make a living off of their art.

[–]King_Steve 1 point2 points ago

I find this incredibly long chain of comments difficult to masturbate to...

[–]c0t0d0 1 point2 points ago

I'm an art major who is presently employed as an engineer. Perhaps the same will happen to your friend. Perhaps your friend does not yet appreciate the benefits of employment.

[–]koalaokala 5 points6 points ago

Im sick of engineering students thinking they're fucking Gods. Bitch, quit acting like you yourself are going to make a robotic hand. You're gonna play the most minimal role in anything you do until you're in your 30's. Have fun at your desk.

[–]atb214 5 points6 points ago

As someone who goes to a school with a major dichotomy between engineers and non-engineers, I want to mention something here. People often ask why engineers hate liberal arts students. Personally, I don't. I say do what you love. But what does bother me is when someone graduates with a degree in art or english and thinks they're entitled to a six figure job because they paid 200 grand for college. The amount of work required to get a degree in engineering is SIGNIFICANTLY more than is needed to get a degree in the liberal arts. My major requires 132 planned credit hours while a history major requires 36 to graduate "with honors".

So what should liberal arts students do if they really are genuinely interested in their major? DO MORE WORK. Get internships, research positions, take up 2 or 3 majors or minors. Show future employers that you didn't just slip by doing the minimum amount of work. All a degree like that says is "I did at least 25% of what that engineer did" and if you want it to say more than you better do more. I don't blame the students for their frustration, I really blame the institutions for propagating the idea that 'a degree is a degree and all people with degrees get jobs so pay us money!'

TLDR: All degrees are not equal. Do what you love but don't be stupid about it. If you work hard you can be a success in any field, but everyone has to work hard to succeed. There are no easy routes to great careers.

[–]DesertTortoiseSex 1 point2 points ago

what is this from, and who is this

[–]mustfndnewname 1 point2 points ago

What gif is this?

[–]SirRosie 2 points3 points ago

Every guy I know who went into engineering is miserable and tells me never to consider it. I'm going into media arts in a field that is rapidly expanding in my area.

My reaction to OP

[–]XeroNrG 6 points7 points ago

Can't we all just agree that Business Majors are at the bottom?

[–]Sloppy1sts 5 points6 points ago

Unless you enjoy making money. I wish I'd been a business major.

[–]Freakazette 1 point2 points ago

Yes. That's a cop out degree. I'm not against anyone taking business classes, but you couldn't even think outside the box for how you might use another major to give yourself an advantage.

[–]ScottCarmichael 2 points3 points ago

Actually, I'd argue English majors and Early Childhood Development majors have some of the worst reputations for picking "meh" careers.

[–]chrisch0731 12 points13 points ago

I'm sick of this .gif.

[–]savingrain 1 point2 points ago

If you think people are struggling for a job because of the major they chose you need to meet more ambitious people.

[–]shoes_of_mackerel 1 point2 points ago

Fuck off you self congratulatory condescending bollocks.

[–]EEFred 1 point2 points ago

Engineers are stupid and lazy. Hence, I want to be one.

[–]Dantai 1 point2 points ago

Is it just me, or other hesitant to "reveal" that their major is Engineering when they're at a party or something because of shit like this.

Lets face it, Engineers don't have the best parties, so I usually go with my friend, who is an Art major, and party with him and his social circle / classmates / etc.

[–]Krazy4Karma 1 point2 points ago

HAHAHA ART DEGREES ARE STUPID RIGHT? WE'RE SO SMART.