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[–][deleted] 43 points44 points ago

SO BRAVE

[–]3LollipopZ-1Red2Blue 0 points1 point ago

The Land of the Brave, Biatches!

[–]jcmence1488 -2 points-1 points ago

Compared to someone like you specially. Sitting behind your key bored jerking off. Yea you got balls kid.

[–]OsirisGodoftheDead 1 point2 points ago

*keyboard

[–]Omegaspleen[S] 1 point2 points ago

Aren't we really only on the pc this late because were jacking off?

[–]YabukiJoe 10 points11 points ago

America sucks. There, I said it. Am I cool yet? I guess that's another spot I can scratch off for my daily Reddit bingo.

[–]ararphile 15 points16 points ago

USA is practically an empire, and it's not like this is some edgy view; as someone who lives in the western world, I'm glad someone keeps peace in important regions of trade.

[–]DeSanti 8 points9 points ago

Not sure what you mean by an Empire or what your terms of definition is, but as I gathered an Empire was a state that had dominion over other sovereign monarchies. An Emperor reigned above a king in his own state so he could legitimize having multiple countries under his rule.

I suppose you could translate that to all the states within the US and it is a huge, huge country. And wont say it doesn't exert great influence and wealth.

But I think the whole 'empire' term has too many negative connotations for it to be used.

If EU became more centralized in its power and integrated I'd think that would account for a more empire-like state.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

Just because the paradigm has shifted a bit doesn't mean it's not an empire. The political structure of the US does have enormous power over the politics of other nations. We even keep troops in many of them.

[–]SourCreamWater 0 points1 point ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted. We still have troops in Germany from WW2.

Reddit preaches and praises truth and facts, yet downvotes many of them when they are talked about.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

There have also been assassinations of foreign heads of state. Conversely, there were exorbitant subsidies and arms deals for out allies (clients).

[–]Little_Metal_Worker 0 points1 point ago

The US can pressure foreign nations, but i think it would be foolish to think that the troops are there to back up that pressure. Its not like the the government of a hosting country has to worry about aggression from US troops.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

A debtor is servant to the lender. If the troops are there only to protect a country, that's still imperial leverage. Just think how it would feel to have foreign troops stationed permanently, in large numbers, on US soil. Even if they were allies.

It's how client states work. They're not necessarily being ruled with an iron fist but that just means it's a relatively successful imperial system.

[–]Little_Metal_Worker 1 point2 points ago

If they were there to counter a rapidly growing and increasingly aggressive Canadian Military, and it saved the US from having to increase it military budget, then sure, id be ok with it.

[–]DeSanti 0 points1 point ago

Are you seriously suggesting that Germany and Japan are 'client states' of the US or somehow owe the US anything just because the US is allowed to have military troops in their states?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

No, we totally didn't conquer either of them in the largest war the world has ever seen not even a century ago. Being an empire or not really has nothing to do with whose side is right or wrong. It's purely the circumstances of history.

[–]DeSanti 0 points1 point ago

You are evading the question, as I said absolutely nothing about US military victories in World War 2. What I am asking you is if you actually consider Germany and Japan as client states based on US military presence there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

Yes, definitely. We occupied Germany until very recently. Similarly with Japan. We founded NATO, we have veto power in the UN Security Council and we have tens of thousands of troops on their land. Not sure what else you're looking for.... The troops issue is no small thing. Empires don't have to look like Rome or Britain to be empires.

Israel is another good example. Honestly, I'm sure the people of these countries are ready to be left alone. It's not like we're really doing them harm, but it's still very clearly imperialism.

[–]DeSanti 0 points1 point ago

Sort of strange way of having a client state when you have to share that with Britain and France, isn't it? Or perhaps you didn't that West-Germany was never 'US-occupied' it was 'Allied-occupied' and divided into three zones with its own government.

It's because of NATO, and NATO isn't an "tool for the US to have client states" it's a co-operation pact between North Atlantic countries to share military co-operation within their borders, US included, as there are foreign military bases (Germany has an air defense school in El Paso) in your country.

Having Veto power in the UN Security Council is aside the point about your grandiose idea of having client states, however.

The US has great influence, but it has no client states and definitely - DEFINITELY - not in Germany and Japan.

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[–]Slukaj 5 points6 points ago

I think he said

USA is practically an empire, and it's not like this is some edgy view;

We're an empire in the most technical of senses. Nobody said otherwise.

[–]Sobertese 6 points7 points ago

We have begun construction on a space station the likes of which this galaxy has never seen.

[–]Slukaj 1 point2 points ago

Yeah we are!

[–]Sobertese 0 points1 point ago

It will be badass but use a shit ton of fuel, and will need repair before the Japanese space station.

[–]bitch_im_a_lion 0 points1 point ago

I think you forget sometimes that you don't actually read the first parts of sentences.

[–]Domin1c 8 points9 points ago

Who the fuck upvotes old shit like this?

[–]iloveyounohomo 14 points15 points ago*

Snooty europeans, edgy teenagers, that liberal college hippy girl, and anyone who hasn't been banned from r/pyongyang yet.

edit: added edgy teenagers.

[–]Patius 9 points10 points ago

More accurately, teenage boys who have never traveled overseas, think that Non-American countries are Utopian societies that have all the good parts of American society with none of the bad, and think bashing your country somehow makes you edgy and cool.

Maybe there are a few Europeans who are slamming the US, but I really think it's mostly kids who think America is a bad country because they haven't been anywhere else.

Ninja Edit: I've generally loved every country I've traveled to, beyond one peninsula where my camera was stolen by the hotel staff. But the US is still really cool.

[–]iloveyounohomo 1 point2 points ago

updated.

[–]SmoothWD40 1 point2 points ago

you have been banned from posting to /r/Pyongyang: Pyongyang | Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

:(

[–]HeyItsTman 1 point2 points ago

WITH PRACTICE BOMBS...ಠ_ಠ

[–]redditarian24 1 point2 points ago

how did this make it to the front page...twice in one week

[–]Artukk 2 points3 points ago

Hear that? That's the sound of liberation.

[–]GahLant 1 point2 points ago

explosions then silence

[–]kobello 1 point2 points ago

Haters gonna hate

[–]Arcon1337 0 points1 point ago

haters gonna disintegrate

[–]iLuVtiffany 3 points4 points ago

Dunno why they are mad at us, we're just trying to give them freedom.

[–]zarkony 2 points3 points ago

Yeah DEMOCRACY. WOOH!

[–]Adam_Warlock 1 point2 points ago

hell yeah!

[–]iGazem 1 point2 points ago

[–]WaaWaaWooHoo 0 points1 point ago

That's gonna give us a really nice bomb pattern. Group Headquarters would be proud.

[–]ThatSunrise 0 points1 point ago

Slightly off-topic and off-point: a hearty hnnng for the B-1.

[–]CSAR_Climax 0 points1 point ago

With a blast radius of 400 cubic freedom

[–]Racer_Of_All 0 points1 point ago

[–]knight4646 0 points1 point ago

My favorite 'merica post by far.

[–]Italian_Barrel_Roll -1 points0 points ago

Lol, it's so funny because the title mocks an entire country!

[–]OatStraw 0 points1 point ago

4x F-16 Engines! If that doesn't get your blood flowing I don't know what will.

[–]gurrgg -1 points0 points ago

I would argue that F-16s have B-1 engines, not the other way around.

[–]alecrev18 0 points1 point ago

SHHIIITTTTTT!!!!! Wrong button. O well, I hear they like this kind of stuff.

[–]greyscale27 0 points1 point ago

Don't wanna be that guy but that plane looks a lot like a a Russian bomber, possibly Tupolev Tu-160 not entirely sure...so yea...Russia woooo...

[–]dontdoxmebro 2 points3 points ago

The B-1B and tu-160 are very similar looking, but this is probably a B-1B, because it's one of the first images that come up on google for B-1B, and website it's from is calling it a B-1B. Not a super definitive study, but the image is too gritty on my phone to look for the details that help distinguish the two.

[–]mrpopenfresh 0 points1 point ago

Droppin' mad freedom on all you bitchasses.

[–]DevilsmeadReturned 0 points1 point ago

Did some one say we were liberating people? The war was about revenge for 9/11. If it was about liberating people we would of only sent the Marines. This is war, and war aint pretty.

[–]CitizenBonks -4 points-3 points ago

Just wanted to correct you. Its Murica. Gosh, feriners coming in here taking our jerbs and misspelling the name of this great land.

[–]thegreatvortigaunt -1 points0 points ago

Everytime I see one of these, I know full well every American who sees it will immediately have a go at Europeans, and try to defend their war-machine of a country. The indoctrination is so obvious.

[–]smokeallofthetrees -5 points-4 points ago

BOOM BOOM BOOM FREEDOMMMMM

[–]burntham77 -2 points-1 points ago

Derb Dee Durr!

[–]PurpleCapybara -1 points0 points ago

The bombing will continue until you throw flowers and candy at our soldiers to celebrate them.

[–]almeras -1 points0 points ago

Democracy... We Deliver!

[–]bootselectric -2 points-1 points ago

Yup, that would probably free up my poop

[–]B_Elanna_Torres -2 points-1 points ago

[–]JohnnyChocolate -5 points-4 points ago