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[–]imbobbathefett 29 points30 points ago

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i always love seeing the deep field picture. so awe-inspiring

[–]smokebreak 7 points8 points ago

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It's been my desktop wallpaper at work for nearly 2 years now. Replaced it today with this image currently front-paged in /r/spaceporn.

[–]sebzim4500 0 points1 point ago

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Is that like /r/spacedicks? [NSFW][NSFL][I mean it. don't click that link].

[–]EvOllj 0 points1 point ago

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wich one?

The hubble ultra deep field is not longer the widest nor the one with the longest exposure. Its just a "very far away" image.

[–]imbobbathefett 1 point2 points ago

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well i'm gonna have to check out the others then. thank you

[–]WingFinger 18 points19 points ago

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B-b-but that just shows how amazing He is. /s

[–]eyob83 9 points10 points ago

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I fucking hate 'you'.

[–]WingFinger 3 points4 points ago

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Yeah, we're frustrating aren't 'we'?

[–]Mudskunk 16 points17 points ago

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'Which God could be bothered to make all of this?'

Clearly sir, you have not played Minecraft.

[–]Aulritta 1 point2 points ago

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Deitcraft -- no height limits!

[–]Novea 1 point2 points ago

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I'm downvoting in the sheer spite that you made the Minecraft reference and therefore got more upvotes than my comment.

But good on ya.

[–]Gramma42ton 12 points13 points ago

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Yes and after god was done with that, he decided to spend his time making sure monkeys on a remote planet at the back end of nowhere aren't having anal sex

[–]grumpyoldfart 14 points15 points ago

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Gawd created all that just for you.

[–]Bagellord 11 points12 points ago

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Prays jeebus!

[–]GreenTwin 17 points18 points ago

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Yep. God created ALLLLLLLL of that, and even more!! Just to show that we are the center of the universe, the only life, and the only thing he cares about. He went though ALLLL that trouble creating things we'd never see so that he could have a personal relationship with us all.

[–]rerin 4 points5 points ago

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I just had an existential crisis looking at that. Not sure whether to upvote or downvote.

[–]ifinallyreddited 6 points7 points ago

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upvote, youre gazing back into the void from whence you came. 'the universe is self aware because of us' is how i like to think of it.

[–]sebzim4500 0 points1 point ago

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You think that humans are the only self-aware beings out there?

[–]Blinkdog 7 points8 points ago

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He never said anything about being human.

DUN DUN DUN

[–]ifinallyreddited 0 points1 point ago

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no. i mean 'us' as sentient life.

[–]drieger22 7 points8 points ago

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The one frame scares me because some fundie will latch onto the "so large physics says it shouldn't exist" statement as proof of divine intervention. No matter how illogical their reasoning is, I can see someone pulling that.

[–]ubergenerics 8 points9 points ago

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Here's an article on this

"As faint as HUDF-JD2 appears to us, its actual brightness must be about 8 times that of the Milky Way today, so the galaxy must have about 8 times as many stars. It would therefore rank as one of the largest of galaxies even at the present age of the universe (about 13.7 billion years).

It has generally been assumed that galaxies of any size did not start to form until several hundred million years after the big bang, so HUDF-JD2 could be only perhaps 400 or 500 million years old itself. That's a very short time for such a massive galaxy. A further standard assumption is that large galaxies form by the merging of smaller ones, which would be even more surprising for such a young galaxy at such an early time."

[–]sonik13 4 points5 points ago

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Was thinking that as well. I'm not sure that the statement is even correct. I don't think any physical laws preclude its existence.. Does anyone have any insight?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago*

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Simple answer: "so large, current theories of physics says it shouldn't exist". It just means we haven't got the answer to that one yet. Further research is obviously needed.

For years the "current theory of physics" couldn't explain the fact that bumblebees could fly, when it seemed impossible. That one was solved a few years ago through a combination of ultra-high-speed photography and computer modelling.

Sooner or later, we'll probably have an answer for this puzzle too.

[–]jockc 2 points3 points ago

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proof of divine intervention

or proof of how "you can't trust science"

[–]Jeezafobic 0 points1 point ago

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That is true, but then again they find announcements about the Truth of Jesus in sketches of him in the mold in a bathroom stall.

[–]Novea -5 points-4 points ago

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Science has the ability to possibly explain how things work, and how they potentially had formed.

However, Science cannot explain where it all came from. Every theory that I have personally heard of precludes that "stuff" was there to explode, "stuff" formed elements randomly, "stuff" was heated, "stuff" was cooled.

But where the hell did the "stuff" come from in the very beginning? I like science, don't get me wrong, and I feel that Christianity and Science should have a melding point if Christianity has any validity.

TL;DR - I think that it is possible that Christianity and Science can meld, and that Science needs some form of Faith/Religion in order to explain the Origin of the Universe.

[–]le_poc 4 points5 points ago

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what

[–]Demonchicken 4 points5 points ago

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I LOVE this, to think on how small we really are and to think of the possibility that life is out there.

[–]kingssman 1 point2 points ago

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life that spawned by random chance with no purpose but a bunch of atoms and molecules assembled together.

[–]Nisas 1 point2 points ago

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It's gotten to the point that to think that there isn't life of some sort somewhere else in the universe is to drastically underestimate the number of things that there are.

[–]tsingi 9 points10 points ago

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This has nothing to do with atheism.

But it's really cool, so up vote from me.

[–]iBro53 11 points12 points ago

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I think this does a good job debating the almost self centered religious idea that god created the universe just for humans.

[–]TheHated 9 points10 points ago

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Indeed, this is one of my favored arguments, I call it "The Tale Of The Worst Engineer Ever."

[–]ggpurehope 2 points3 points ago

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I can't say anything. It's just amazing. This is so incredible. Makes shivers inside me.

[–]thereandwhereagain 2 points3 points ago

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There is no freaking way we are alone in this universe. No freaking way.

[–]Guy_Barker 4 points5 points ago

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Love pictures like this. It's my person opinion that these posts are fine in /r/atheism because it's the haven for Sagan and Tyson lovers, besides /r/space.

[–]Novea 4 points5 points ago

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If I was an all powerful being with an eternity to twiddle my thumbs, I'd totally do it.

Heck, I'm thinking it'd be a lot of fun to make planets just because I could.

[–]Notagtipsy 2 points3 points ago

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In Minecraft's creative mode, half of what I do is fly around laying miles of TNT, then set off a single one on one end and then watch as it makes a gorge.

Yeah... I don't think I could ever manage something on this scale. I'd be too fascinated by making huge bodies orbit each other more and more tightly until they collide to focus on a single planet with life.

[–]Novea 2 points3 points ago

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Well, I think you may have just described the big bang.

"I wonder what would happen if I just IMPLODED EVERYTHING THEN EXPLODED IT ALL???"

[–]sebzim4500 2 points3 points ago

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13 billion years later:

well fuck.

[–]Novea 0 points1 point ago

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I was actually thinking more along the lines of:

"Daaaang. So...I'm a little lonely now. Why don't I make people?"

Because even in minecraft, you eventually sit down and plug away at that one awesome sculpture or building till it's your crown jewel of creations.

[–]Blondiey 1 point2 points ago

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Like previously said, that's awe-inspiring. It makes me feel so small.

[–]mr_regato 1 point2 points ago

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Use PNG for these. Compression is not lossy so you don't get the artifacts.

I cannot read your jpg.

[–]Sephizor -1 points0 points ago

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Unfortunately, these images have been around for years and have gone through a lot of different hosting sites' compression algorithms, compressed into gifs and then extracted again and stitched back together.

[–]giffles 1 point2 points ago

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thought for sure there would be a small "your mom" pic at the bottom. i was very disappointed.

[–]vagatarian 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, if god spoke to Moses? of his accomplishments, his godliness, his omnipotence, why did he not mention the trillions x trillions of stars he created? Seems like relevant information that would have a place in the book of genesis? Or maybe he's just so intent on appearing humble he was willing to intentionally hide this information?

[–]Sodfarm 1 point2 points ago

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Born too soon.

[–]RodrigoAlves 1 point2 points ago

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And while we are here debating religion, billions of alien species are laughing at us.

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB 0 points1 point ago

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meh it will be a few billion years before they even see the dinosaurs. by then i won't care.

[–]Crispyanity 1 point2 points ago

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For some reason this made me feel incredibly optimistic and happy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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i love when a good thing gets reposted. lots of people should see this.

[–]historianLA 1 point2 points ago

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I just need to point out that not all theists are anti-science. There are many Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. that believe in the scientific understanding of the cosmos. They just also believe that at some point... a point which science may never be able to unravel (based on its own theoretical models) there was a power that brought the universe in all its complexity into existence. These theists just believe that faith exists alongside science to explain different things using different paradigms.

[–]rvbfreak 1 point2 points ago

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The catholic god does. And he needs your money. (George Carlin)

[–]faithhammer 1 point2 points ago

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I am curious...If it took "god" 6 days to create the earth, how long would it have taken "him" to create all the stellar bodies in the universe?

[–]BigBelly86 1 point2 points ago

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[–]Enderkr 1 point2 points ago

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Things like this always make me feel so tiny and sad that there's all these great things out there to be discovered, and we haven't discovered them yet. Makes me feel happy, too, but man....

[–]elgorath 1 point2 points ago*

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I don't believe in any god, but if there was such a thing as an omnipotent god I wouldn't imagine there'd be any such a thing which would be considered a "bother" for him to make simply by the definition of omnipotence.

Hmm. How to put it in a way that makes it sound like I'm not defending religion. Could batman give your dad a good beating? Obviously he couldn't as he isn't real, but by the powers he is assigned trough the imaginations of his creators your dad would probably get his as whooped in an imaginary fight.

Edit: Double negative removed.

[–]winto_bungle 1 point2 points ago

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I love this. This is my number one reason for being an atheist.

All I have do do is try and imagine the vastness of the universe and religion pales into insignificance.

[–]paddymac1991 1 point2 points ago

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Aside from the fact that this only adds more ridiculousness to the thought of religion, the Hubble deep field is one of my favorite pictures. So awe inspiring to know how small we are. Simply amazing.

[–]Alexiel17 1 point2 points ago

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I love this post, it makes me feel better about breaking up any relationship with my cheating ex, that's irrelevant to the universe... n.n

[–]Sandbox47 1 point2 points ago

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It's like God is playing minecraft and constantly making things more and more complicated, ignoring his previous constructions.

[–]kontankarite 1 point2 points ago

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I always thought it was critically weird that god would waste so much effort and time to go out of its way to create such an elaborate and flawed design. While the universe is truly boggling to behold, it doesn't seem to be very useful in regards to what a god should be capable of.

If god created all this, then why is it so flawed? Why disease? Why carnivores? Why planets? Why the size of things? Why the existence of useless organs and left over parts like vestigial limbs?

A lot of the time, theists will tell me it was all done to impress us and compel us to glorify god. But I find that problematic because if all we ever knew was a simpler and more perfect design, we'd still be impressed.

[–]theothercoolfish 0 points1 point ago

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You know, when people ask why I don't believe in god, it's this sort of stuff that I love to respond with. What would it take for me to believe in a god? Well, what if the universe was just our solar system. Fuck that.. not even, just the earth. And there was no death, no diseases, no parasites eating kids eyes out. No pain, no suffering. Everyone would have enough to eat, there wouldn't be murder death and destruction. We'd all have free will, but no one would be an asshole and do bad things because there'd be no point to it. No one would die. Everyone would be happy happy happy all the time. And the god character would come around and touch us and we'd somehow feel even more happier and fucking ponies could talk and shit. Oh and on Monday's regular laws of physics wouldn't apply, so you could bounce around in no gravity and stuff (if you wanted to). Instead we've got this, and for some reason I prefer it because it's so much cooler.

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB -2 points-1 points ago

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suddenly, cancer

[–]quackzila 3 points4 points ago

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I wonder how Christians would explain lightyears since god supposedly created everything 6 thousand year ago or so.

[–]iAmChuckleNuts 10 points11 points ago

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God made the speed of light a lot faster during the creation. Then he slowed it so all of us would be confused and question his existence.

[–]GreenTwin 3 points4 points ago

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I have actually heard this argument from someone at school. She sent me to this sight that "proved" that the speed of light was faster then and has been slowing down, which allows for 6000 yrs to be anywhere close to the beginning of time.

[–]HiImDan 5 points6 points ago

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A lightyear is a measurement of distance? God simply created things far apart?

[–]iBro53 6 points7 points ago

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I'm guessing this is most likely sarcastic but...

A lightyear is a measurement of distance? God simply created things far apart?

Yes but if we assumed this, then the light would not yet have reached our planet, making it impossible to for us to see it.

If we use the 13 billion light year number they used in the image, then like it says, it would take 13 billion years for the light of those objects to reach us.

If my calculations are correct, 13 billion years is a couple more years than 6000.

[–]eyob83 8 points9 points ago

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You know you're going to hell right?

[–]zachary87921 1 point2 points ago

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In Christian maths, maybe not. I really can't make up what they're really thinking.

[–]HiImDan 0 points1 point ago

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You're dealing with the same people who dismiss all evidence of the flood being impossible and who believe God made the earth literally stop spinning for an important battle. I imagine this would be dismissed by so called scientists being wrong about everything again.

[–]squigs 3 points4 points ago

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Well, creationists rather than Christians. The Big Bang was originally proposed by a Christian after all.

Perhaps God created the universe with all the photons already in transit - The Omphalos Hypothesis

The thing is, you could just as readily argue we were created with our memories last Thursday.

[–]BuccaneerRex 1 point2 points ago

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Actually, God hasn't created the universe yet. God will create the universe NEXT Thursday, and at that time, you'll be created with the memory of this post.

[–]Smallpaul 4 points5 points ago

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Not all Christians are Creationists. In many countries, virtually none are.

[–]FalcoLX 1 point2 points ago

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I really wish r/atheism would accept this. Yeah, there's quite a few absolutely crazy ones that still cling to creationism but there's almost always more that understand the big bang and evolution to be true.

[–]Joedang100 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, but I think r/atheism is mostly intended as a refuge for atheists in the bible-belt of the USA. I live in the northwest (Oregon, specifically). Most people here are content with letting others have their beliefs.

[–]Kylone -1 points0 points ago

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This totally depends on your theory of creation. There are many theories that are 'embraced' by the Christian faith. I realize that some of these theories, such as the one I'm assuming you are referring (chronology of the Earth based from James Ussher, which 'found' that the Earth was created 4004 years before the birth of Christ) may seem far-fetched, but there are others that both have religious understanding and cooperate well with modern science.

The Gap theory, for instance, is the second-most 'believed in' theory among Christians. I for one feel the Intermittent/Intermittent Day theory is more spot on.

[–]ValarDohaeris 1 point2 points ago

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Don't give them the respect of using the word "theory". None of them have earned it.

Please use hypothesis instead.

[–]Kylone -1 points0 points ago

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You realize that there are Christian scientists in this world that have devoted their lives to 'theorizing' about these sorts of things, don't you?

However, you don't agree with their life's work so therefore they don't deserve to use certain words. Really astute, my good man.

Go ahead and hit the back button on your browser to get back to the front page, hit CTRL+F, type "atheism", and go back to mindlessly upvoting all of those posts.

Or you could read a book about Christian creation 'theories' and come back and actually contribute to this thread.

Sincerely, Annoyed

[–]ValarDohaeris 0 points1 point ago

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Are we being cute and using "theory" to mean "philosophizing" or "speculating"? Or are we going to be serious and use "theory" to mean that they take a hypothesis and do tests and make observations? What tests and observations are there for "God did it"?

Creationism doesn't get to wear scientific clothing around. It's a fraud. It borrows scientific words in an attempt to legitimize itself and present itself as something other than what it is, which is absurd.

Pseudoscience is not science, no matter how many people degrade the public perception of the word "theory".

[–]Novea -1 points0 points ago

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I don't believe in a 6000 year creation, neither do I deny the plausibility that the earth/universe is potentially billions of years old.

I believe that the account in Genesis is not the Origin of the Universe, but simply the Origin of Man. So God, rather than creating everything in 6 days, he only re-created our particular solar system with the intention of producing life. Then he made our particular ecosystems and of course, Man.

TL;DR - I believe in a billions-of-billions years old universe, believe in a 6 day creation, do not believe that any creature evolved from another, but do not deny that micro-evolution occurs to this day.

[–]haroldp 1 point2 points ago

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This graphic is suffering from compression fatigue so bad, space has turned grey.

[–]keeblur 1 point2 points ago*

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I've always been open to the notion of a "God" that didn't create everything in it per se, but sparked the events which allowed it all to transpire. Pretty much a lazy cosmic entity who made the universe self propagating and self sufficient without it's need to be there. Something far beyond our understanding.

But a God who cares about us, hears our thoughts, grants us eternal life because we've been subservient to "him". That's just a load of shit.

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB 0 points1 point ago

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so, the one event that we don't understand, the big bang, was created by god, then after that he just watched. why do you have to make a god here? isn't it more likely that it was a natural phenomenon that we don't yet understand?

[–]nomadz 1 point2 points ago

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Duh. That's why polytheism makes more sense. There's no way a guy could manage all that shit all by himself, even with his omni-something powers. There has to be a god for each star system, then a god-boss for every galaxy, a superboss-god per galaxy cluster, and maybe every trillion year they elect an übermega-god to manage the whole team. And I'm sure he looks like that !

[–]carlsaischa 0 points1 point ago

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Wow the universe is so big!! God is amaziing!

[–]kndrvg 0 points1 point ago

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Takes faith to believe these pictures are a representation of reality

[–]-Hastis- -1 points0 points ago

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Doesn't that prove how big/great God is? (lol)

[–]WonLife 0 points1 point ago

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Could someone please explain the second to last slide. My mind can't understand it.

[–]makken 4 points5 points ago

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Light is very fast, but not instantaneous. The galaxies in that picture are so far away that their light takes 13 billion years to reach us. So when the Hubble captures the light from these galaxies, it is capturing light that was emitted 13 billion years ago, and has spent all that time travelling to us. Since the age of the universe is generally accepted to be 13.8-ish billion years old, and since the light from those distant galaxies had to be emitted 13 billion years ago to reach us, it must have been emitted when the universe was around 800 million years old (13.8 billion – 13 billion).

[–]zoned87 0 points1 point ago

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The part I dont understand is that the big bang was from a centralized location. If this light was emitted around 800 years old and in the worst case scenario these stars/galaxies were going to opposite direction. That means we are moving apart at around half the speed of light Since it took 13 billion years to get here. This doesn't seem right... what am I missing and how fast are we moving? And is there any way to test this by having light on each side of our planet? We probably aren't even CLOSE to moving half the speed of light... what am I missing.

[–]barjam 0 points1 point ago

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Check out the Hubble constant.

My understanding is that galaxies aren't (for the most part) moving relative to each other the distance between them is just expanding.

[–]zoned87 0 points1 point ago

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I still don't understand the length of time between light reaching our eyes and how old the universe is. Anyway I'd bet the universe is infinity larger than what we have evidence of.

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB 0 points1 point ago

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i don't really understand this all too well either, but i think that space itself is expanding. imagine us as raisins in a loaf of bread, and the bread is expanding, causing the raisins to all move apart. (everything is redshifted). Therefore the big bang didn't happen in the middle of our current universe, the big bang IS our current universe.

[–]zoned87 0 points1 point ago

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That means a whole lot of "nothing" is being created between galaxies? How fast is a galaxy moving is relation to... i don't know... sound or light or not at all. I understand we are expanding but what is expanding galaxies flying away or "nothing" expanding... but then the big bang used to be a huge clump of everything right so the universe was bigger than how far rocks go out... god shit is confusing lol

[–]zachary87921 -1 points0 points ago

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A whole lot of things, that's why you need a phD to understand it. Which includes general relativity and astrophysics.

[–]sorren_uogl 0 points1 point ago

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What existed 13.9 billion years ago before the big bang?

[–]workthr_owaway 0 points1 point ago

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Neither space nor time. There was no 13.9 billion years ago.

[–]WonLife -1 points0 points ago

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So had we taken the picture a year earlier, we could have seen something pre-big bang?

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB 0 points1 point ago

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no, we would have had to take it 800 million years ago (following from the op your replied to). where did u get the 1 year?

[–]WonLife 0 points1 point ago

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Oh okay, sorry I'm still trying to get my mind around this. So we can only see it 13 billion years ago because that is the distance between us, and never how it is currently?

[–]makken 0 points1 point ago

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I've always found the video form of these pictures to be more inspiring.

[–]theShiftlessest 0 points1 point ago

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Where can I get more info on how that galaxy shouldn't exist according to our current theories. That's incredibly interesting!

[–]samosandblasted 0 points1 point ago

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It's more like...we're merely the pond scum floating on the surface of one planet surrounding one of these stars. Thinking that a "God" could exist and would be influenced by our prayers is even more outrageous than 1 bacteria exchanging a nitrogen atom with another bacteria under the armpit of a cheetah in Africa affects the amount of solar wind on Alpha Centauri

[–]shm00ps 0 points1 point ago

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Nah none of this is real, this is satan tricking your mind (and the telescope around the world).

[–]pomo 0 points1 point ago

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All of those galaxies are full of Muslims... apparently.

[–]papa_lurks 0 points1 point ago

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Venus looks a lot different than what I'm used to seeing.

[–]HiZenBurg 0 points1 point ago

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I always know whats coming but still read through to the bitter end.

[–]PhotonicDoctor 0 points1 point ago

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Which god? Particle 010.

[–]Yuoaman 0 points1 point ago

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Couldn't we have started at Arcturus Station? I mean... it is the capital.

[–]fabiobean 0 points1 point ago

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i thought after the 17th panel it was going to show a picture of your mom.

[–]EvOllj 0 points1 point ago*

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Some measurements result in approximately 40% of all red dwarf stars (thats 80% of all stars in the milky way) having a super-earth within its habitable zone. (they measured enough of these stars and found >300 extrasolar planets to make that approximation, the problem is that only very few of them are detectable at all for now).

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313

Thats 100 earthlike planets (1x to 10x the mass of earth) that can have liquid water on their surface within 30 light years.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/28/super_earths_hundreds_close_by/

[–]oD3 0 points1 point ago

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This just makes my brain fizz. The universe is so big its just impossible to even wrap your head around it.

[–]mjolnir616 0 points1 point ago

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space is big

[–]agentmuu 0 points1 point ago

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Surely you've seen this.

[–]Shangheli 0 points1 point ago

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I wish I had a star ship all to myself, I would leave earth and spend the rest of my life exploring.

[–]xoxota99 0 points1 point ago

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It was no bother, really. Glad you like it!

[–]dwmfives 0 points1 point ago

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Now I know this is the wrong subreddit to point this out in....but...any god?

How many of us have played countless hours of games like Minecraft, Simcity, Pokemon, etc; obsessing over the most mundane details?

Actually, hey notch! SpaceCraft would be a lot of fun!

Edit: the point doesn't escape me, just as an Agnostic floating between super general Christianity and Atheism, this isn't one of those arguments you guys sometimes have that make me say DUH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE

[–]black_tea 0 points1 point ago

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but which god could be bothered to make all of this...

Athiests - 1
Theists - 0

[–]Lord_Tynan 0 points1 point ago

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As both a spore and minecraft enthusiast, I sir, I.

[–]sprkng 0 points1 point ago

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I like the video version of the size comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

[–]KittyL0ver 0 points1 point ago

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Isn't the slide describing the most distant objects as 13 billion light years away wrong? The observable universe is 46 billion light years in any direction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe

[–]kenttouchthis 0 points1 point ago

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do you have a link to the original image?

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[–]schad500 0 points1 point ago

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Because Earth is bigger than Mars.

[–]strivingforever 0 points1 point ago

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Can someone explain how being big can defy physics?

[–]Nincro 0 points1 point ago

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I would love an explanation to this and it's probably very simple... but how can the hubble transmite these images when it's billions of miles away?

[–]Nu11ington 0 points1 point ago

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He did have some 14 billion years

[–]wojovox 0 points1 point ago

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Every time I see the size comparisons of our star to other stars, I still can't comprehend it.

[–]AmberWings 0 points1 point ago

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I kind of find this comforting. With so much beauty in the infinite depths of life, no matter what the outcome is, it's going to be alright. All of that will go on with, or without, us.

We came from stardust, and it's to that which we must someday return.

[–]Nerdtendo 0 points1 point ago

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There's a DLC joke in there, somewhere.

[–]d12nt_ban_me_again 0 points1 point ago

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Is r/atheism braindead? A theist could use the same fucking picture as evidence of god. I'm not talking about religion here, I'm talking about theism.

Also, everyone should visit a planetarium at least once. Amazing stuff. If anyone is ever in NYC, the hayden planetarium has amazing shows.

[–]GGN00bz0r 0 points1 point ago

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it's beautiful isn't it ?

[–]LORDJEW_VAN_CUNTFUCK 0 points1 point ago

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An omnipotent one. He could do have done it without any exertion whatsoever.

[–]klownxxx 0 points1 point ago

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i think you are underestimating god's power.

[–]mattjustcame 0 points1 point ago

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Here is why I don't think this is a valid argument that there is no god. Why would a god create the entire earth for just a few people? He obviously knew that the human population was going to expand so we needed more places to go. Once Earth had no more room the next logical spot would be going to another planet and then another planet and then spread across the universe. Once it was time for us to go to another planet, god knew that we would have developed the technology to do that.

[–]SayVandalay 1 point2 points ago

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Except we don't need all those places to go and we're getting close to needing to get some space on this planet. And consider we're no where near the technology needed to travel far in space.

Couple that with the fact that a massive solar flare or a huge meteor could wipe us out hundreds of years before we have the technology to leave earth and colonize elsewhere...yeah that's poor design on your "god's" part.

[–]cobdale -2 points-1 points ago

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damn, what an original idea! havent seen those picture 1000 times or anything!

[–]LokiTheSkeptic -1 points0 points ago

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GAWD CREATED THINGS FOR HUMAN ENJOYMENT, IT CAME FROM SOMEWHERE

[–]garbonzo607 1 point2 points ago

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Why does he create things we cannot enjoy?

[–]FRIENDLY_KNIFE_RUB 0 points1 point ago

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he's still saying i told you so to adam and eve.

[–]helalo -1 points0 points ago

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good place to a god to play hide and seek, no ?

[–]Headcap -1 points0 points ago

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If i were god I would make the shit out of that, and show myself to all developed worlds and say: "DO NOT FUCKING WORSHIP ME!"