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[–]oliverstfx 1260 points1261 points ago

"As soon as they start to pull, you just stop walking. Eventually, they learn that pulling does not lead to faster walking, and is actually counterproductive." - Advice I was given while walking dogs.

[–]ClampingNomads 842 points843 points ago

Eventually, they learn

My dog's taught me that "eventually" can mean over six years and counting. A normal walk means ten yards, stop, swear at dog and repeat until home again. The dog absolutely loves it.

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[–]ClampingNomads 368 points369 points ago

Know exactly what you mean. Mine has spent years teaching me that "here" means "there". (The obstinate fucker is from a line of working collies! Hundreds of years of selective breeding and I get the one who wants to unionise!)

[–]RyVal 262 points263 points ago

with this kind of behaviour you need to reward the bad stuff. He bites someone, give him a treat. He runs away, give him a treat.

Do you know why this method actually works? Because your dog is a cunthead.

[–]cottagecheese420 191 points192 points ago

Next time someone asks what breed my dog is: 'Oh, he's just a Cunthead.'

[–]xaronax 188 points189 points ago

FENTONNNNNNNNN.

[–]bobandy47 69 points70 points ago

Oh Jesus Christ...

[–]dead-yossarian 24 points25 points ago

i have your collies brother then, stay is never when i say stay its 2 more steps, every bloody time, he has to walk that little bit further looking at me the whole time.

[–]Kirbyoh 8 points9 points ago

Haha, you won't ever get a beagle to stop pulling once they get that idea in their heads.

Mine know exactly what you want them to do, and they will look right at you while you give commands, then look for just an extra second as if to say, "No." and continue exactly what they were doing.

[–]grecy 24 points25 points ago

absolutely this is what your dog is doing. It's a pack animal.. if it doesn't have a leader, it will be the leader.

You have to teach it who's boss if you want to be the leader and have it lead a fulfilled life.

[–]Moweropolis 44 points45 points ago*

The 'Alpha Dog' teaching method has been under a lot of disagreement over the past few years concerning its validity.

It is a heavy handed approach that started decades ago, and it just stuck. People are now learning that it does not always work, and that it often varies on the breed and temperament of the dog. It is also a very hard method for the average dog owner to use, and it take and intimate knowledge of dog training to use it properly.

Another drawback to this method is that it shows the dog that aggressive power play is fair game. You may establish yourself as the alpha dog, but what about the others in the house? Your children? A dog that is shown that there is a linear hierarchy may instinctively try to place themselves higher in the chain, being obedient to the supposed 'Alpha', but also aggressive to what it sees as the weaker members of the pack, mainly small children and possibly elderly.

In the end it all comes down to showing your animal respect, yet being firm that certain actions are not acceptable.

Source: http://k9domain.org/alpha_theory.aspx

[–]coffeeblues 13 points14 points ago*

The 'Alpha Dog' teaching method has been under a lot of disagreement over the past few years concerning its validity.

Not just the past few years, it hasn't been credible with ethologists for almost a decade I believe. The guy that popularized the term "alpha," David Mech, has stated on his website the term is inaccurate and that he's begged publishers to stop publishing the book that started it.

Edit for a quote from his paper:

Labeling a high-ranking wolf alpha emphasizes its rank in a dominance hierarchy. However, in natural wolf packs, the alpha male or female are merely the breeding animals, the parents of the pack, and dominance contests with other wolves are rare, if they exist at all. During my 13 summers observing the Ellesmere Island pack, I saw none. Thus, calling a wolf an alpha is usually no more appropriate than referring to a human parent or a doe deer as an alpha.

[–]Themehmeh 93 points94 points ago

I was told a good way to train a dog out of that is to be unpredictable. turn around at random, walk sideways, stop randomly, speed up, slow down. bring treats and reward them once they've been good for a while. I had the same problem you had, but I never tried this because I didn't want to look like a fucking idiot.... But I'm sure it's effective.

[–]CougarAries 67 points68 points ago

Other dog owners will not see you as being an idiot, but as a responsible dog owner. The ones who look like idiots are the owners whose dogs are taking them for a walk.

Same analogy for kids, which parent looks more like an idiot, the one who constantly stops to calmly lecture their kids on how to behave in public, or the one who lets their kids run amok?

[–]bluesforpablo 43 points44 points ago

Two sets of parents with one kid at my store yesterday. One told the kid she would not be getting her snack if she didn't calm down and keep her hands to herself. The kid did as told.

The other tried to steal from the tip jar, broke up her snack into tiny crumbs and threw them, and ran amok in circles for about an hour. Parents never said a word to her the entire time.

[–]bettse 45 points46 points ago

The twist is, the parents of the first child are the children of the other parents.

[–]Tenure 3 points4 points ago

I wish I had more upvotes to give you, but I have only this one. Take it. It is dangerous out there. It will guide you. Keep you safe. It will be your secret midnight lover. It will be your warrior spirit. It will see you home

Farewell.

[–]TwiceThePriceOfRice 9 points10 points ago

Directed by M. Night. Shamalamadingdong

[–]IFUCKINGLOVEMETH 17 points18 points ago

That's why god invented tasers.

[–]duckandabluesailor 17 points18 points ago

Haha, I was told pretty well the same thing. Was worried about looking like a fool, so I took her out for walks at 5:30 in the morning. After tripping over her countless times, she did catch on.

[–]rabbischmooleyishot 9 points10 points ago

I did it. No fucks were given for looking like an idiot. Worked.

[–]dead-yossarian 5 points6 points ago

was told this, after looking like a fuckwad for 6months i gave up, the dog can pull in all directions and walk in random ways even better than i ever could.

[–]pokemeng 116 points117 points ago

our corgi wasa fiesty one too. We got one of the harnesses that attaches to the leash at the front. This way when they pull it ends up turning them around and you dont have to stop.

like this

[–]TheIcelander 235 points236 points ago

The first time I had that on my dog he started to pull, turned around, and stared at me dumbfounded like I had done magic.

[–]bisena 10 points11 points ago

My husky pulled a "the fuck you think this is?" Spun as fast as he could to duck his head under the leash, so it was over his shoulder opposite me and pulls at 30-45 degree angle. The harness "corrects" him into pulling exactly where he wants.

Luckily he doesnt pull often and listens to "sit" immediately upon command. He realized that he might be able to pull, but he has no chance in hell of making progress if he does. That and random treats rain down upon him when he doesn't.

[–]hatemoneylovewoman 32 points33 points ago

That is brilliant!

[–]spaceylacey83 12 points13 points ago

Seriously. I have a mini-pin that spends half our walks on his two back legs because he pulls against his chest harness.

[–]Turbodeth 8 points9 points ago

I tried a harness like that for my akita. It didn't deter him from pulling in the slightest, if anything it just let him pull more as it put the force around his chest and shoulders rather than around his neck. So I tried a prong collar, which was instantly successful. After a few months training with the prong collar (for walks only), he's now back to his regular collar and doesn't pull at all.

[–]MasterfulModest 26 points27 points ago

A prominent Brazilian dog trainer was asked at a talk show if there was any particular breed that was hard or impossible to train. His quick answer was: "yes, the dogs whose owners do not pay me are all but impossible to train".

[–]jafrey 219 points220 points ago

"Treat your kids like adults and how to behave in public and this isn't a problem." - Me, raised free range and raising my kids free range.

[–]2WAR 115 points116 points ago

why did you quote yourself

[–]homeboy5925 98 points99 points ago

because fuck the police

[–]WiglyWorm 11 points12 points ago

Help tha police

[–]Zaziel 9 points10 points ago

Because I can.

-Me

[–]CeruleanOak 21 points22 points ago

Free range, the tastiest kind of children.

[–]jortgonfreit 34 points35 points ago

Yes, because all kids are the same.

[–]d1rtfarm 121 points122 points ago

If you try to suggest that parenting children should be done in a manner different than raising livestock, your comment will be buried so deep that James Cameron couldn't find it. The masses of well-adjusted Redditors think that having a child is exactly same as having a pet and that chaining your kids to compensate for bad parenting is admirable.

[–]AtlanticPrince 75 points76 points ago

I don't even know if these guys talking about dogs are being sarcastic. All I can think of is that South Park episode where Cesar Millan starts training Eric Cartman.

[–]beebeedoom 35 points36 points ago

TSSSSST!

[–]verbose_gent 4 points5 points ago

I should really give that show a shot. Everything I ever hear about it is awesome, and I did enjoy the movie from what I can remember; I like musicals.

[–]yakyakyak 79 points80 points ago

Not once did my toddlers behave like that... looks insane! My children were 2 years apart in age, and we socialized, traveled, and ate out a great deal as I was a single parent for 8+ years. We would talk before taking the trip to (insert destination: grocery store, auntie's house, airplane ride, train trip, stop by Mom's work, etc) and discuss what to expect, how we would behave, what activities they would like to plan to keep them entertained, etc. Then on the trip/errand, we would have fun seeing new things and discussing them, making decisions together, taking pictures, taking rests when needed... just never needed to leash them and they never once rolled on a floor in a tantrum. Maybe they were just magical children! I sort of think they are, personally. So, perhaps, I am just very fortunate!

[–]mens_libertina 6 points7 points ago

I think you are very fortunate. My son is very intelligent and behaves beautifully now, but when he first learned to run, there was no stopping him and he would see something and dart off. He did not heed "stop" because he just didn't have impulse control yet. We needed a leash only a few times, and never lost him in crowds and stopped him from running into traffic. I think every child is different, and clearly older children should know better.

[–]no_butseriously_guys 13 points14 points ago

Upvote for being a great parent! Kids don't know how to behave if you never teach them...

[–]SeaBones 29 points30 points ago

THIS is parenting. Leashes are just lazy attempts to control a child that has already slipped from your control because of poor parenting.

[–]mjolle 4 points5 points ago

Sorry but I must disagree a little. There are cases where nothing else helps at all, I've known of one or two of those very special cases.

In fact, one of those kids had a grandmother babysit and she thought that leashes on kids was a bunch of bs, and that she would not use them. Long story short, the worst of the kids blatantly disobeyed instructions as always, rad off into the road, got hit by a car and was hospitalized.

The parents had tied EVERYTHING, and the leashes were really the last of the last resorts.

[–]centralcontrol 11 points12 points ago

how many kids do you have? i have two. one is mild mannered, the other is just ... eh... free spirited. it sounds like you know nothing about parenting. just speculation, of course.

[–]MyWifesBusty 9 points10 points ago

Woah, woah, woah.

Raising a well adjusted kid is largely like raising a well adjusted dog--you need a strong will, consistent behavior, unconditional love, the ability to set boundaries and expectations of good behavior, and unconditional love.

There's a reason that hardly anybody has either.

[–]viciousbreed 3 points4 points ago

Gentle Leader head harness for the win. You have to work with them a bit to get them not to keep trying to rub it off on the ground, but once you do, walks are SO much more pleasant. But you have to keep a good pace, dogs need to move.

[–]The_Bravinator 2 points3 points ago*

Oh god, I got distracted reading a thread about child harnesses above and forgot we were talking about dogs until the end of your comment. o_O

[–]Curvatureland 149 points150 points ago

I've seen a photoshopped version of this picture where someone photoshopped Kratos in place of the mom and the kids are like his chain swords.

[–]Curvatureland 6 points7 points ago

that is excellent, well done.

[–]fantyx 38 points39 points ago

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points ago

Is this a request? It should be.

[–]LobsterThief 145 points146 points ago

[–]ICantSeeIt 110 points111 points ago

9/10, shoop is pretty obvious (just look at the pixels). Otherwise it's pretty good.

[–]TheD33Man 20 points21 points ago

I've seen quite a few shoops in my day, and those pixels are just so obvious

[–]jsharpe1 33 points34 points ago*

You should create a novelty account "Shitty_Photoshop", and just do stuff like this. You and Shitty_Watercolour can have epic battles.

EDIT: Shitty battles. You and Shitty_Watercolour can have shitty battles.

[–]LobsterThief 10 points11 points ago

That's a novel idea

[–]RyVal 4 points5 points ago

that'll do.

[–]AmericanIdiom 138 points139 points ago

Rick & Lori need one of these for Carl.

[–]RebelinNeedofCause 57 points58 points ago

[–]flounder19 784 points785 points ago*

A lifetime of fighting games makes me see this as her twirling them around herself to make a defensive perimeter from the horde of ninjas that I assume are attacking from off screen

Edit: apparently hoard != horde

[–]sudsomatic 281 points282 points ago

Reminds me Kratos when he swings enemies around with his hook chains.

[–]ginjah_ninjah 253 points254 points ago

"no one will have said your comment" i thought, "it's so original" i thought

[–]brightboy 105 points106 points ago

This sums up my reddit career in a nutshell.

[–]4nonymo 44 points45 points ago

I...Fuck...

[–]Boshaft 110 points111 points ago

What? WHAT? WHAT DO YOU FUCK?

[–]Muffmuncher 12 points13 points ago

I... Fuck... Lamp.

[–]TheDroopy 12 points13 points ago

Do you really fuck the lamp, or are you just saying that because you saw it?

[–]VintageRudy 12 points13 points ago

Those Ninja are most definitely on screen

[–]I_DRINK_PERIOD_BLOOD 64 points65 points ago

Dynasty Warriors.

[–]Piratiko 81 points82 points ago

Relevant Chinese legend:

During Cao Cao's stay at Wancheng, he forced Zhang Ji's widow to be a concubine of his, which angered Zhang Xiu. Cao Cao heard of Zhang Xiu's displeasure, and plotted to kill the latter. However, the plan was leaked and Zhang Xiu launched a surprise attack on Cao Cao, leading to the Battle of Wancheng. Cao Cao escaped on horseback. Dian Wei stood guard at the front gate of the camp ground, with a dozen men on his side, and fought fiercely using a long halberd. One swing of the halberd saw more than ten enemy spears broken. As the battle went on, Dian Wei's companions were killed one by one, while Dian was also wounded. Dian Wei then grabbed two enemies and used them as weapons. No other enemy dared to approach him. Dian Wei rushed forward and killed a few more enemies before finally dying of blood loss. He was still staring and swearing as he took his last breath. Only after assuring that he was dead did the enemies dare to come forward and severed his head, which was passed around for all to see. When the word spread, all the enemies came to revere Dian Wei's body, not believing anyone could fight so ferociously.

[–]Duggles 13 points14 points ago

Pretty good, but what's even sweeter is when you don't let a little thing like dying stop you from finishing the job.

[–]DrDragun 22 points23 points ago

In ancient Japan when swords and spears were banned the peasants used improvised weapons like staves, rice threshers, wagon hubs, and human children.

[–]l30 11 points12 points ago

[–]ignore_this_post 284 points285 points ago

Worst Kratos cosplay ever.

[–]dubblechrisp 59 points60 points ago

This should be an unlockable character skin in God of War IV.

[–]psychonautilius 58 points59 points ago

She is actually wildly swinging both children through the air. It is a delicate and impressive performance art.

[–]vertigo1083 5 points6 points ago

I whip my kids back and forth.

[–]phil_s_stein 30 points31 points ago

"What did those shitty kids do to that poor woman?"

[–]sandybloomberg 358 points359 points ago

I hope she at least brought the poop baggies. I hate it when folks don't clean up after.

[–]sinfulcolors 96 points97 points ago

At least they're on leashes. I hate when folks don't use leashes!

[–]elgrapadora 64 points65 points ago

I wholeheartedly believe in leash laws for unruly children. If your child runs around and is constantly not in your arms grabbing length, leash that child.

[–]StaffSergeant 68 points69 points ago

Sometimes it is better for them to run off the energy before sitting on a eight hour flight.

[–]wiltedbouquet 98 points99 points ago

They can't scream the whole flight if they're dead under a bus!

/s

[–]Legoandsprit 25 points26 points ago

ಠ_ಠ

Why a bus, they leave such a mess?

[–]reflectiveSingleton 24 points25 points ago

Exactly...clearly the correct answer is the furnace.

[–]elgrapadora 29 points30 points ago

This is also true. Its also the reason why my states main airport has little kid play areas post security. Let em burn that energy in a soft bouncy environment, rather than kick the guys chair in front of them for the duration of the flight.

[–]_ze 9 points10 points ago

If your child is that unruly, kennel train them and leave them at home.

[–]skybike 15 points16 points ago

"Kids on a leash, do you believe that? I think that's horrible... put em in the pound where they belong!" - Hicks

[–]bearsbaby 16 points17 points ago

hartsfield jackson in atlanta?

[–]kabob23 36 points37 points ago

Seeing eye children aren't trained as well as they used to be.

[–]Snapples 239 points240 points ago

Airport restaurant worker here: I see this Shit erryday. Honestly the leashes are better than them running free.

[–]juliusseizure 109 points110 points ago

I couldn't believe people using leashes like a dog on t heir kids. Then I had a kid. Fortunately, I haven't had to use a leash yet, but I know it is coming sooner or later.

[–]maxd 13 points14 points ago

I have a 2.5 year old and while I don't disapprove of the use of a leash I'm definitely going to try and not use one for her. It means being active and aware and chasing after, especially as I'm a single parent, but I believe I can do it!

[–]triksterx 3 points4 points ago

My nephew had a leash that he loved. It was part of a backpack that looked like a monkey and the leash was a tail that could be stowed in a pocket. When I would take him places I would fill the bag with his essentials, then let him walk around with me. For the most part, he would always hold my hand while walking through a store or ride my shoulders. Occasionally I would have to examine something that wouldn't allow me to have direct control over the child, so I whipped out the tail and let him wander the 7 or so feet it gave him while I read the specifications on a piece of equipment I was thinking about purchasing. While it shouldn't be a go to child restraining device, leashes are nice to at least have on hand for some lone guardian situations.

[–]bab5871 73 points74 points ago

I thought the same thing... how could people do that to their kids? They're humans not pets... or are they? Having a 1.5-2yo kid that wants to walk is great, until they just dart out into the road, or run off at the mall. These leashes are a fucking great idea when it comes to making sure your kid doesn't run off into the street or with someone they shouldn't. My fiance and I would take her sisters kid for the day occasionally... only really had to use it a few times to be honest, but I felt better knowing I had a little control on him when he refused to hold our hands.

[–]Atheist_Jew 181 points182 points ago

he refused to hold our hands.

The reason leashes are necessary is because people let two year olds make the rules. He's two. You're bigger than him. He doesn't get to refuse to hold your hand when walking in potentially dangerous or crowded places. If he starts throwing a complete fit, he gets picked up and you leave. Do this consistently (I know it's not your kid, which makes this impossible), and hand-holding won't be argued with after a couple of trips across the street or to the mall.

[–]vlk4 22 points23 points ago

From what I've observed out of my friends with kids, the reason the kids make the rules and don't get picked up and taken out of a place when they're misbehaving is because the parents don't want to miss out on what's going on there either. In a mall, at a restaurant, at the park, or pretty much anywhere where the parents also have something to do and people they're talking to, they don't want to give up what they're doing to teach their kid a lesson. People just need to realize that kids are going to be an inconvenience to them sometimes and they can't just let it go because they don't want to stop what they're doing. If someone have kids, sometimes they're not going to get what they need from a store, they're not going to finish eating dinner, and they're not going to hear their friends' stories, and they're going to have to deal with it.

[–]Atheist_Jew 21 points22 points ago

People just need to realize that kids are going to be an inconvenience to them sometimes and they can't just let it go because they don't want to stop what they're doing.

Exactly. It's all about priority. I understand that you might "need" something at the mall or want to enjoy a dinner out as a family, but making sure your kids grow up to be decent people is priority number one (and making sure your kids don't make things unenjoyable for other people ought to be higher on the list than your own happiness, too, within the bounds of reasonable social expectations).

[–]SensibleMadness 25 points26 points ago

I have two kids, 10 and 12, and I never ever used a leash. I wholeheartedly endorse your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. The most important part is, as you say, to recognize when the situation is beyond saving and take the child out of the area. You have to impose your will on children at that age, but at the same time you have to recognize when their emotional state at the time simply makes it impossible (they can be incredibly stubborn). I've left full carts of groceries in the aisles before when my kid decided it was epic fit-throwing time.

Now, when dealing with airports where it's not practical to leave, things can get a little dicier. Personally, I sidestepped that issue by avoiding flying with the children until they turned 5 (as a great side effect, they learned how to behave on long road trips since we never flew anywhere), but that may not be possible for everyone (shared custody situations and the like). In that case, your best bet may just be to find a relatively quiet corner of the airport and either let them nap or lay the law down, whichever is appropriate for the situation.

[–]Atheist_Jew 10 points11 points ago

It also comes down to knowing your child, having the right distractions ready, and to be frank having the right threats prepared that your child knows you will live up to ("If you don't behave in the airport, you are going to have a big time out and not get to play with your cousins when we get to grandma's"). If you know you can't get your kid to behave, you don't take them places where decent behavior is required.

[–]crunkenstein 39 points40 points ago*

My ex and I had this argument, over her two year old, who ran her house. I stayed over one night when were just starting dating, and he was a habitual terror about getting back out of bed after she'd put him down. I ended it in one night just by being firm with him and she was amazed. I put him back in bed myself the first time he got up, walked out of the room, and stood outside his door where he couldn't see me, and just waited. Barely two minutes in, he slips out of bed and nearly shits himself when he comes around the corner to find me staring down at him with my arms crossed. Over the next few years, he'd test it occasionally, but being a fucking ninja, I was always aware and caught him, piled him right back in bed with a single swat on his ass. She always tried to reason with him, I just gave him an eyebrow. Her first child being a girl, and having all sisters, she had no idea how to handle boys.

edit: Faster than the grammar nazis I am, yessssss.

[–]Atheist_Jew 22 points23 points ago*

Girls are the same. Just did this with my one-year old daughter and nap time. One hour of screaming, and so far two three days and counting of going to sleep without any issues.

[–]ozziegt 10 points11 points ago

I'm having the same problem with my wife. She seems to think he's a little snowflake and she needs to reason with him every time she tells him no. I'm like no, he needs to learn that when his parents say to do something, he does it. It's becoming a major pain in the ass now so she might start listening to me.

[–]phukunewb 51 points52 points ago

Exactly. LOL I would have had a smack down coming if I "refused" to do something at that age. These people let their kids lead them around by the nose.

[–]Detry 7 points8 points ago

I'm going to start a line of kid-friendly tazers. Get shamwow dude to do an infomercial.

[–]advicevice 20 points21 points ago

My little brother darted out into the street once. After which my mom sat down on the curb promptly beat his ass. He never did it again. I'm not a big fan of corporal punishment, but in cases of life and death I think it has its place.

[–]another_single_dad 43 points44 points ago

You may be surprised to hear this, but streets, airports, and malls all pre-date child leashes by decades. The risk is greatly exaggerated.

Leashes are a crutch and/or overkill.

[–]fuckyournationalism 75 points76 points ago

LITERAL HELICOPTER PARENT MODE ENGAGE!!

[–]I_DRINK_PERIOD_BLOOD 562 points563 points ago

Condoms, worth every penny.

[–]nikpappagiorgio 206 points207 points ago

Considering the type of activities you are engaged in, I don't think you have to worry about that.

[–]superwinner 126 points127 points ago

Dental damns, worth every penny.

[–]Elumako 49 points50 points ago

The typo actually makes it funnier, for a change.

[–]biggmclargehuge 18 points19 points ago

Clearly you've never masturbated whilst wearing a condom. The point stands: Condoms, worth every penny.

[–]scargnar 20 points21 points ago

wait, do you mean it's better with a condom? what? but...huh? urgently awaiting response here.

-a female

[–]BangkokPadang 57 points58 points ago

If a guy were to use a lubricated condom to masturbate, he could slide the condom up and down his shaft so it would simulate a vagina, sort of.

HOWEVER

When wearing a condom for sex, it does not move up and down the shaft, it just sits there, in position, blocking 85% of the glorious sensation a real vagina offers.

-a guy

[–]makesterriblejokes 7 points8 points ago

You last longer and clean up is a breeze.

[–]hoss7071 60 points61 points ago

TIL: Everyone thinks they're the best parent(s) known to our entire, observable universe.

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[–]dalittle 56 points57 points ago

they would scream more in the stroller.

[–]quintessadragon 33 points34 points ago

Exactly. At least now they have the freedom to move around a bit, without the parent having to constantly hold their hand.

[–]ihaveacalculator 28 points29 points ago

we associate leashes with animals

We, too, are animals.

[–]graciosa 24 points25 points ago

unlike a stroller, the kids are actually able to explore and exercise.

[–]junkit33 4 points5 points ago

That's partially true, at best. Fact is, little kids have little legs and can't walk as far as mom and dad. Thus the stroller.

[–]nspinner 8 points9 points ago

This is exactly the case. If they were in a stroller, bad parenting never would have been mentioned. We also wouldn't have this entertaining photo either ;)

[–]retrosax 18 points19 points ago

After watching legend of korra...

That's some serious kid-bending she's doing.

[–]Zelik 99 points100 points ago

To everyone against the use of "leashes" on children, let me give you some perspective, not as a parent, but as a twin.

My brother and I were merciless toward our Mom once we learned to run. We were a duo. In public, we would sprint in opposite directions, or one of us would create a diversion while the other wreaked havoc elsewhere. My Mom parented us well, and tried to get us to behave. I wouldn't consider myself or my twin evil or exceptionally bad children.

But kids in general are mischievousness, and energetic, and like the thrill of running and being chased around. When you've got two of them who are the same or similar age, they play off each other.

Since there were two of us and my Dad wasn't in the picture, for a period of time my Mom either needed a babysitter, or had to strap at least one of us to a stroller or to a harness. When she had a babysitter, then she would literally assign her to one of us before we went outside, so that when we inevitably pulled our shenanigans each adult was responsible for one kid.

[–]Martholomule 52 points53 points ago

As a father of twins, this is cool to hear. I don't know any twins other than my own, but what I know for sure is that twins are a team at all times and will not hesitate to work together to cause absolute chaos.

I don't want to say my 2 year old boys are reading each others minds, but it's like they have a perfect sense of each other's non-verbal cues and timing. They have the most amazing bond and use it for evil at every opportunity (just kidding... sort of).

[–]twinmum33 7 points8 points ago

My two boys are the same. I have been that woman in the picture lol. I don't think anyone can truly understand unless they have had or been twins.

[–]yokobono 5 points6 points ago

As a father of twins I can tell you it will not get better, just different. Mine are six now. They still go straight to fighting when there's a disagreement, still blame the other for anything that goes wrong and still take great pleasure in making their parents tired.

[–]drewman77 21 points22 points ago

As father of 9 year old twins, leashes were tempting. We persevered without and have gained the built-in discipline which works in so many more places that a leash doesn't cover.

Everyone's kids are different and some need restraint. The parents I have talked to who use leashes never even TRIED. It was too hard to even try. They bought and used leashes from the beginning.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

The only time the folks I know use a leash is when they are going to the mall or the airport. Crowded areas where a kid could be easily grabbed or easily injured.

[–]moosic 4 points5 points ago

Parent of twins here. Thank you, you know the truth. We have twins and one has down syndrome and throw some autism in there and we always travel with three adults at a minimum.

[–]FlyBiShooter23 28 points29 points ago

This reminds me of the time I went to a college baseball game and a dad had his son leashed. Enter a wild foul ball. Dad forgets kid is attached to the leash in his hand. Drags kid up the bleachers trying to catch foul ball. Kid was fine afterward. Dad felt like a dick.

Story aside, as someone without my own kids, but with a niece who might as well be, I can't say I would ever leash her but I'm not condemning those who do correctly. A leash isn't a pass allowing you to not watch your kid or teach them to behave in public. It just seems most of the people who do choose to leash, do so in order to do less parenting.

[–]Rayeangel 14 points15 points ago

My mother says when I was younger, she would drug me with Benadryil when we were going on an airplane.

[–]Mororeflex 16 points17 points ago

For everyone moaning about the lack of child discipline in the modern world, child restraints are not a new invention. Leading strings date back to at least the 17th century. Pretty sure they beat children with axes back then.

[–]galvatron0 5 points6 points ago

As a father, I always want to help parents alone with multiple kids; but then I don't want to be that weirdo guy in the airport.

[–]Rosalee 23 points24 points ago

Surely a safety harness saves her back so she doesn't have to keep bending over? Better than losing her kids. Seems a good idea to me, she can tie them up too while she's waiting for her flight instead of them wandering off and getting lost.

[–]CSI__GUY 31 points32 points ago

If that kid gets sick at the airport

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It'll be a terminal illness.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!

[–]baronxs 4 points5 points ago

Well it certainly wasn't today.

[–]Kaddus 5 points6 points ago

http://i.imgur.com/GN0yD.jpg

Anyone else think of this?

[–]BardLover108 4 points5 points ago

someone needs to post this on /r/childfree.

[–]vizzay 4 points5 points ago

Someone shoop her holding lightsabers asap please

[–]tabassman 4 points5 points ago

Shouldn't that say "regular day for a mom at the airport"?

[–]Torx 3 points4 points ago

Next time she'll learn how to ship through fedex.

[–]Scarzig 4 points5 points ago

I liked this photo better when it was shopped with a God of War reference.

[–]wkc78 4 points5 points ago

Came to say that I have the same Eddie Bauer monkey harness that she has for my daughter. At least she has them in the vicinity and not running like crazy around the airport.

[–]ApokalypseCow 4 points5 points ago

I wonder if I could get a child-leash like that with a 100 lbs reel spring on it, so the child would come flying back to me when I press the retract button... I bet there's a market for that.

[–]SukayMyDickay 47 points48 points ago

Fuck I hate these threads

[–]Warning_BadAdvice 14 points15 points ago

I thought I'd have learned which posts you shouldn't go to the comments for by now...

[–]Metyx 5 points6 points ago

I never learn. I just read comments until I hate myself. That's when I know it has been enough Reddit for one day.

[–]P4ngurB4n 5 points6 points ago

Honestly, /r/funny seems to be like a bug zapper for people who shouldn't have an opinion on the matter, but do anyways. Aka - people with low intelligence. Most main subreddits are like that, actually...

I'm unsubscribing. I'll just stick to /r/earthporn and /r/askscience, I guess.

[–]zman73 13 points14 points ago

This is why I dress my kid up in a puppy costume and put him in an animal carrier. Some people say it's abuse, but whatever, I'm on my third drink in the airport bar already.

[–]DevmasterJ 37 points38 points ago

Anyone remember that DQ commercial when the guy dips his fry in his blizzard? and then his buddy says "dude, that's not natural" and then he points and replies "and that is"? then there is a kid that gets whiplash on his leash when he chases a butterfly. Hilarious

TL;DR Funny shit went down in a DQ commercial

[–]trshtehdsh 4 points5 points ago

read TL;DR, had to go back and read from the beginning.

[–]Beaumont21 8 points9 points ago

Anybody else think it looks like she's spinning poi with her kids?

[–]unkemt 49 points50 points ago

Made much worse by you standing and taking pictures

[–]victordavion 64 points65 points ago

It is socially illegal for a man to interact with children in the United States.

[–]karmapuhlease 17 points18 points ago

Sometimes it's even criminally illegal.

[–]Narissis 221 points222 points ago*

In this thread: Hundreds of non-parent Redditors admonish the mother for using harnesses.

Edit: Since this comment seems to be getting a lot of attention, I feel I should clarify that I am not a parent, but my parents did use a hand holder (essentially a wrist-leash) for me when I was that age, and knowing myself as well as I do I feel they were fully justified to do so.

[–]meohmy13 36 points37 points ago

Plus hundreds of parent Redditors who somehow missed the humility-inspiring lesson of "What worked for one kid doesn't necessarily work for other kids."

[–]pinkamena_pie 265 points266 points ago

Leashes are great. They stop your little fuck trophies from causing havoc.

[–]douglasg14b 65 points66 points ago

Fuck trophies..... you sir made my day.

[–]edaddyo 34 points35 points ago

The same people who would also post a picture of a toddler running through the airport free and posting what a bad parent they are for letting them roam wild.

Toddlers gotta MOVE. You can't keep that much toddler energy bottled up for a long time, it's like nuclear fusion. You have to give them an outlet, and if putting them on a leash keeps them from being underfoot of everyone else in the airport, then leash it is.

[–]el_diamond_g 142 points143 points ago

I'm a non-parent and I have zero problem with leashes. If it helps you keep your kid from running in front of a car (or into my legs and spilling my coffee), then power to you.

[–]The_Bravinator 23 points24 points ago*

Seriously. What's the problem with using all of the methods of control and teaching your child not to be unruly and so on mentioned above, and yet STILL having this kind of thing as a back-up? Especially if you only use it in the kinds of situations where you know you are going to have to pay attention to other things like looking at the flight board or trying to read a subway map or whatever else you have to do. It seems like a good idea in order to handle the moments of childlike excitement or inattention (that are surely inevitable in a toddler) that could send the child under a car or get them lost or have them annoying some total stranger before you know it.

While I'm sure it's quite possible to raise children who would "NEVER do something like that", I'm not sure I'd bet a toddler's safety on them being calm and reasonable 100% of the time.

And I'm not saying I'd use something like this myself. I haven't been there yet, so I don't know what it's like. But I'm not going to hurl judgement at other people over something so frivolous just so I can smile to myself in superiority over how much of a better parent I would be.

[–]broohaha 4 points5 points ago

What's the problem with using all of the methods of control and teaching your child not to be unruly and so on mentioned above, and yet STILL having this kind of thing as a back-up in a situation where you know you are going to have to pay attention to other things to avoid the moments of childlike excitement or inattention (that are surely inevitable in a toddler) that could send the child under a car or get them lost or have them annoying some total stranger while you look at the flight board or try to read a subway map or whatever else you have to do.

That is one long sentence. ...that you might have forgotten started out as a question, but you ended it with a period.

[–]ButtonFury 8 points9 points ago*

My understanding was that it was always other mothers that looked down on leash users non-parents that gave zero fucks about leashes.

[–]one-half 20 points21 points ago

The same people who would admonish the mother for letting the kids run around in the airport, or that would admonish the mother for having noisy kids on a plane ("You should have let them run around beforehand!"), and that would admonish the mother for daring to have kids in the first place. ("Control your fuckspawn" and the like.) If it was up to the hivemind, no one would ever have kids, or those that did would keep them locked up until they're well-adjusted adults, just like redditors.

[–]blart_history 2 points3 points ago

Ugh, this. Fuck Reddit double-think. You're a horrible parent if you leash your kids, you're a horrible parent if your kid wanders too close to me.

[–]balloonenstein 47 points48 points ago

So anyone who doesn't agree with putting their kid on a leash must not be a parent?

[–]Sulfate 46 points47 points ago

Not necessarily. It's just much more common for someone to take the moral high ground when they don't have a clue what the fuck they're talking about.

[–]smilingkevin 31 points32 points ago

Every single time this is posted, yes. "You should control your kid!" "You don't even have kids!" "But I would control them!" "There's two of them - how?" "Just do it!"

[–]savetheplanetgirl 16 points17 points ago

My mother, who never once put us on leash or even considered the fact that she might need to because she had extremely well behaved kids, fully endorses this woman's actions.

[–]Ultraseamus 8 points9 points ago

That's what I came in here looking for. People always seem to get a lot of flack around here for using these, but I don't really see why. If you have little kids on a busy street or in a big airport, why would you not want to have a physical connection to them that stops them from wandering off, or worse?

I don't even think this is another example of helicopter parents, I think it just makes sense in some situations. Not even kid or every parent would need to use these, but I don't think it's an instant sign of bad parenting, liek others have suggested.

[–]rasmus9311 4 points5 points ago

Where's the animated .gif? I wanna see her make the helicopter.

[–]Triassic_Bark 3 points4 points ago

Rough day? It looks to me like she is successfully wielding dual babies. I wouldn't fight her.

[–]mickeysf 4 points5 points ago

Her big mistake was using the leash instead of a double stroller. You buckle those kids in the stroller and give them a snack. None of the stigma of the leash, and all the control. I have twin toddlers and a 4 year old

[–]loeras 3 points4 points ago

Why are these children on leashes? Can parents really not handle their kids anymore?

My father never hit us growing up, but the way he changed his voice to sound like the promise of bad things to come always mad us stop whatever bad behavior we were doing.

[–]Niloc0 4 points5 points ago

Don't shy away from using the choke chain now.

[–]Painkiller3666 3 points4 points ago

White people you have to stop putting your kids on leashes. It makes your race look ridiculous. Thanks for the laughs though.

[–]Balls2theW4ll 3 points4 points ago

When i misbehaved my folks just beat my ass, it works

[–]Squatso 3 points4 points ago

I couldn't put a leash on a kid. If I have a son and he disappears at the airport never to be seen again because I didn't use a leash, then so be it. I lose a kid but I'll still die content that I never treated him like a domesticated pet. I'll just go home and tell my wife and/or gay lover, "Look, some shit went down and - well - Oscar's gone. Possibly dead. If he's smart he'll find his way back home. But damn it, at least I never resorted to tying him down."

Then we buy another at the store. Hell, we might even get a full refund/store credit. That's certainly nothing to sneeze at.

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[–]notjawn 6 points7 points ago

The dirty looks are easier than chasing down a little runner.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

Kratos' wife and her Babies of Chaos!

[–]MaxATX 2 points3 points ago

The kids need to plan this out for maximum cartoon-like hilarity. If they could run in choreographed circles around the mother, perhaps they could spin her so fast as to turn her into a small tornado... or mummy.

[–]jeffbell 2 points3 points ago

I watched someone give their kids apple juice just before getting on a flight. They were already twitchy before the sugar rush set in.

[–]Tr0user 2 points3 points ago

"Flight has been delayed? Fuck this, children! helicopter positions!"

[–]jesse950 2 points3 points ago

Mom just pulled us in the direction she wanted us to go by our ears... Seemed to work.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

As a former leash kid, this makes me cringe.

[–]traetrae 2 points3 points ago

fucking white people

[–]Constantroaming 2 points3 points ago

I cannot for the life of me understand how kids get away with this type of behavior. There is no excuse. Also those leash things are idiotic.

As a parent of 2 boys, who traveled extensively with them when they were at a young age I never ever had kids who were so out of line as to be a major annoyance to others. Did they get fussy, or cranky on a long flight sure they did but they never ran loose like little monsters. Even at 16 and 18 they are still very respectful, intelligent, and well rounded young adults.

[–]traffick 2 points3 points ago

Tying kids to a leash doesn't make you a mother.

[–]djsavvysoph 2 points3 points ago

Oh god I love this. That child just layin there plankin, not giving one single fuck in the world. Poor mom.