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[–]stferago 253 points254 points ago

I like how at first it looked like "fuck you", then expanded to "Go fuck yourself".

[–]NarglesEverywhere 48 points49 points ago

Totally my first thought. Quite brilliant, really.

[–]BlackDeath3 32 points33 points ago

Adjusts monocle

Yes, quite!

[–]PerilPhoSho 19 points20 points ago

I like how he's wearing a blue shirt with khaki pants; thus it can be concluded that he isn't a cruel person, as then he'd be wearing a green shirt.

[–]CollegeStudnt 144 points145 points ago

It'll happen, it took me a few months to get a job after I graduated last year. I have to admit that it was great having that bonus summer, have some fun man, you have your entire life to work. PM me if you want any advice, I've been there. Best of luck to you.

[–]iusedtogotodigg 67 points68 points ago

for some reason this guy seems legit.

[–]CrackpotGonzo 25 points26 points ago

Don't tru... ah fuck it he's legit

[–]bearXential 21 points22 points ago

Fuck You

Go Fuck Yourself

There must have been hours of thought put into that animation,

and it really does feel like it comes from the heart.

That's not just an animation. It is art. Or Artimation, if you will.

When such inspiration comes from the heart, and something so beautifully special is created.

[–]alphanovember 10 points11 points ago

Yeah.

[–]lamaksha77 13 points14 points ago

A better scenario would be to put a full-time effort into finding a job, and then signing a contract 4 to 6 weeks ahead if the company allows it. Then treat yourself to something nice/wild/weird, maybe backpack around SE Asia, relaxed in the knowledge that you have a job to start when you get back.

Otherwise you run the risk of having a life-long summer vacation.

[–]nononao 8 points9 points ago

As someone living that vacation, it is not as good as it sounds.

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[–]psybermonkey15 34 points35 points ago

[–]konqrr 6 points7 points ago

And remember, no matter what your job title is, you're a salesman. Your product? You.

[–]GloriousPeanut 17 points18 points ago

This x1 milliard. I was jobless for 8 months after I graduated, almost living out on the street and too poor to buy food (my friends had to buy it for me so I wouldn't starve). Landed an interview, following the advice above (fake it 'til you make it), and BAM - now I'm traveling the world, getting paid, and generally winning at life.

1 billion dollars and infinite girlfriends will certainly come your way if you keep trying.

[–]Require_More_Mineral 23 points24 points ago

Infinite girlfriends? One is enough trouble, amiright guys?

[–]NotSoFatThrowAway 3 points4 points ago

Think it's too late to go back to college at 26?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

No. Someone I know has gone back at 26 to become a Veterinarian. She had to do prerequisites and everything first as well. She got in.... to one of the most difficult things to get in to. It's never too late. Unless you're dead.

[–]LordLittlefinger 2 points3 points ago

Never too late!

[–]DerivativeMonster 4 points5 points ago

All easier said than done, there's only so many resumes one can shoot into the void before you give up and go live with wolves.

[–]Gee4 8 points9 points ago

Thanks man, this really made my day.

[–]ownershipclass 5 points6 points ago

Don't just send out resumes, go places where potential bosses will be, and talk with them. If there's a relevant conference in your city and you can't afford admission, find the nearest bar, attendees will be there. Professional events are all listed online, so start finding those listings, and then finding events that are cheap or free. If you meet interesting, intelligent people, don't be afraid to ask them to a breakfast or coffee meeting.

The (mostly good) comment above talks about networking as 'asskissery' and 'whoring yourself', but I hate that negativity. Just treat it as an opportunity to get to know people who share some interests and professional goals with you and you'll be fine.

Don't be afraid to be specific. If you say "I'm graduating with a degree in finance, and I'm looking to get real-world experience with real estate valuation", I might actually remember you if my friend mentions that his real estate company is growing. If you say "I'm graduating with a degree in finance, and I'd like a job", I won't remember you. It's too broad, so I'd expect to be wasting everyone's time if I arranged an introduction.

Create a clear value proposition. Most resumes are terrible; they're beige paint. They're so vague and general that I can't tell why I'd want to hire them. I want to know, quickly why I care about you specifically. If you can do that, you're getting a phone screen. The networking events are especially useful for learning what a useful value proposition might be, because you can ask a wide variety of relevant people what problems they're looking to solve, and what problems they're seeing with their candidates.

[–]red454545 52 points53 points ago

Why don't you got to law school!

p.s. Do not actually go to law school

[–]wanderingtroglodyte 20 points21 points ago*

If I could go back in time and smack everyone who told me to go law school...

I would just kick myself in the nards for listening.

EDIT: I came back to put in my two cents about why not to go to law school, but it's fairly well covered. If you guys want another opinion I'll gladly give one.

[–]HexAddict 15 points16 points ago

Naw man. With your future law knowledge you should sue your past self for money.

[–]fudashiii 9 points10 points ago

A sueance if you will.

[–]rosan_banana 3 points4 points ago

Would you care to you elaborate? I've been studying for the LSAT for over 7 months and have been set on applying to law school for over a year. I've heard from many different sources on why you shouldn't go to law school, just like you said. I felt like my intentions were different, though. My main objective is not so much to make a lot of money, but to work for the growing minority in southern California, and I felt that having a law degree would be a great avenue to accomplish that.

Almost exactly two weeks ago, from one day to the next, I decided not to go to law school anymore. I felt like I could help out my community as an educated individual in other ways. I'm still thinking if I've made the right choice, and the LSAT is a couple months away, and if I take it, I would need rigorous training at least the month before.

Could I have some sage advice?

[–]i-drink-ur-milkshake 23 points24 points ago

Please don't go to law school. The legal market is so over-saturated with third-rate degree mill diplomas that it's becoming comical. I have buddies at Cornell Law who are having trouble finding work. Even Ivy League graduates are not immune (exception being HYS). Many are working $30-40K jobs with $175K debt. It's a nightmare.

Anyone who advises you to go to a law school now is a fucking idiot.

[–]rosan_banana 7 points8 points ago

Totally agree with you with the third-rate diplomas. I think 4th-tier law schools shouldn't even be accredited. I have a good shot at getting into a T1 school, though; high gpa, I was around 3-4 points away from my target LSAT score to get into my goal school, good experience, and I'm a minority woman :).

The thing is, I knew I'd still come out with debt. & you're right about the job market. I've done my research, trust me. I think this is why I ultimate decided not to go. I thought I was different because I had a strong objective in life, therefore I had a good cause in going. But, just like studying for the LSAT, I don't want my legal job to be the dread in my life, while other activities like working with my students and interning with campaigns to be the highlight of my life.

I know I would've kicked law school's ass. I love learning. But what about after? That's what has made me change my mind.

[–]OfMarginalBenefit 2 points3 points ago

Have you thought about pursuing an MPA / MPP ? I think there are still plenty of job opportunities out there if you want to make a difference, and most of the better programs provide pretty good funding.

[–]EukaryoteZ 4 points5 points ago

I strongly suggest you sit down and carefully look at the numbers before going to law school. When you look at how much debt you will have, the interest payments on that debt, and your realistic earning potential in this over saturated market, you will likely agree it's a bad idea. I understand that money isn't your motivation, but it's hard to do anything when you're under that much crushing debt.

[–]heavens_will 492 points493 points ago

Honestly, don't take these criticisms to heart. There are people who have jobs lined up and people who don't. It's no one's fault... it's just not your time yet. Seriously, though, people are way too judgmental about these things. Why do people assume that a person must have been lazy or didn't major in something that's "useful"... in all honesty, fuck all that because you have to do what you want. Do what you love, and you'll figure out how to make a living. Work hard, of course, but don't join the bandwagon of "oh... you have to take this major... you have to do this, you have to do that." Pave your own way, and your time will come.

Don't stress out too much about it. The more you stress, the harder it's going to get. Take everything in and try to learn from that. And don't worry about those other people. They make their own decisions, so you should too.

[–]smileandbackaway 224 points225 points ago

I...I think I love you. Could you stroke my hair and tell me everything's going to be okay?

[–]Kombat_Wombat 98 points99 points ago

... Sure buddy... smiles and backs away

[–]Thecrumblingcookie 14 points15 points ago

[–]Advantageous 5 points6 points ago

Damn you, my volume was all the way up and i live with seniors...

[–]Jorbo 8 points9 points ago

Then today is your lucky day, because I happen to be a holding, stroking, loving machine. Also spanking.

[–]Thecrumblingcookie 9 points10 points ago

Thats not remotely what I had in mind

[–]reluctantusername 9 points10 points ago

As a recent jobless graduate who is frantically job hunting - I would feel this way a bit more if my landlord, phone company, electric, grocery store as well as insurance provider gave a shit about me paving my own way.

[–]redbeardo 13 points14 points ago

Yeah, I don't really hate on the people graduating with jobs lined up. But I did graduate in December of 2008 at the start of the recession from college... and it was terrible.

[–]TheOutlier 15 points16 points ago

Friends get you into more jobs than degrees. Following your passion in school will make more friends.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

This is the truest statement here, and it pisses me off that so many people on Reddit truly believe they don't have a job because "the mean ole world is mean and unemployment is too high".

[–]FerrariThug 18 points19 points ago

I love Ferrari. I am currently majoring in Ferrari

[–]jack_spankin 60 points61 points ago

Honestly, don't take these criticisms to heart.

You are making the assumption that OP actually got out there and hustled for a job.

My sister is a career counselor at a large state school and generally the students who hustle are getting the jobs. The ones putting out a half assed effort with a shitty resume aren't even getting interviews unless they are at a college fair where they are almost obligated to give you a a quick sit down.

It's very possible that the OP has been busting ass, but there are plenty of upcoming graduates who haven't done shit. The worst part is they don't even know they haven't done shit.

[–]fist_my_urethra 6 points7 points ago

This is true. The extreme hustlers all get jobs eventually. Sure luck has a role to play, but hustle hard enough and you get lucky.

[–]Benditlikebaker 3 points4 points ago

I agree with the OP and I don't. I just graduated, I have 2 years of co-ops on my resume, I bring examples of my work to interviews and I am a girl in the engineering field. Engineering jobs are supposed to be kind of easy to come by but in this job market, experience keeps beating me. I've had interviews for companies but a clean slate, new graduate is apparently not desirable right now. Right now it's heavily based on who you know that can help direct you to a place that's hiring. But I am not sweating it because... this is my last summer before I have a career. No one HAS to get a job right out of college... enjoy your summer, be lazy, stay up late.. do whatever. You're going to work for the rest of your life so I don't see it as a bad thing to not have a job lined up right away.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points ago*

Honest question, how are you supposed to get a job with a shitty resume if no one will take you for a job because you have a shitty resume and thus you can't make your resume not shitty?

[–]bkporque 79 points80 points ago

Volunteering, being part of organizations, taking on personal projects that will elevate your skills, etc. You don't need to close yourself to just "jobs."

[–]jrkatz 36 points37 points ago

Also, internships (paid or unpaid), co-ops, and undergraduate research. A lot of times interest is enough to get interviews for those positions.

[–]gvsb 7 points8 points ago

I know that I got my job solely because I was in the right place at the right time- but it scares me how much my future coworkers will have to work to get in the door. The vetting process for our summer interns is intense, I often wonder if everyone has forgotten these are still young kids.

You're right, it's a big help, and at my company it's almost a guarantee, but even the internships aren't easy to get in to. :(

[–]caulay 13 points14 points ago

I'm trying to get a co-op placement for this summer..My resume sucks, my interviewing skills are likely worse, and i'll be finished school in less than 2 weeks ಠ_ಠ

[–]What_Is_X 26 points27 points ago

Good luck.

[–]DukeEsquire 5 points6 points ago

You really should have started way earlier. There are definitely jobs out there for people that want them.

My little brother is 18 years old and a freshman in college. He is interested in finance and just blind emailed all the major companies in Cincinnati (where we are from). Within 3 weeks, he had two interviews lined up and received offers from both.

It is never too early to start looking for internships. My brother has a pretty empty resume, but now has a paid summer internship lined up with the largest insurance company in town.

[–]Shalmander 8 points9 points ago*

If you truely feel that way, why don't you take those study skills you built up after years in school and read books on interviewing and writing resumes.

[–]ufvubc 6 points7 points ago

We've hired so many of our volunteers without proper diplomas etc. It's the best way for a manager to know how you do as a worker without actually paying you and going process of hiring/firing. This is mental health, not sure how it is in other fields.

[–]mishka6 21 points22 points ago

I did 10 internships. I have 10 glowing letters of rec.

STILL NO JOBS IT'S GREAT.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points ago

Honestly, you're doing something wrong then. If you have really done 10 internships, and you were so good you are getting "glowing letters of rec.", then why did you not just get on full time with one of them?

Yes, there are legitimate cases of people not being able to find work, but most of the time it's bullshit. Unemployment is only ~8% right now, and is pretty steadily dropping. It's actually much better for college graduates as well.

There is no way to truly judge how many of those 8% are lazy and not truly trying to find work, and how many literally just cannot find any work, but I do personally know quite a few people who are unemployed (and college graduates), and all of them are unemployed because they don't even really try to get a job. You can't just send your resume to someone and assume they'll hire you. A resume is good to have and give out, but your resume is shitty compared to someone elses, I guarantee it. So you have to do more, you have to show them that not only do you really want the job, you'll actually be a valuable member of their workforce.

How you go about doing that changes radically depending on where you're trying to work, but just sending out resumes isn't going to do shit and probably won't even get an interview. Another thing that I know a lot of employers are looking for is people that do things outside of work related to their major. If you're a CS major, join the ACM and go to the monthly seminars, maybe even put together a presentation and do one yourself.Work on personal side projects either by yourself or in a group, it doesn't matter. You have to show them that you actually care about what you're doing. You don't even have to truly enjoy doing them, but it really makes you look like a better candidate for employment.

Another quick "tip" is to at least make a list of some blogs related to your profession, and subscribe to some magazines as well. It goes a long way to casually mention it in passing, but make sure you've actually read some of the recent articles if you do this, otherwise you might look like a fool.

Just remember, everyone has a college degree these days, it really doesn't mean shit at all. It doesn't make you better than anyone, it just means you went to school as much as someone else. You have to show people that you are above and beyond just the normal people who graduate and expect things to fall into their lap.

[–]Gumburcules 11 points12 points ago

Unemployment is only ~8% right now, and is pretty steadily dropping. It's actually much better for college graduates as well.

While this is true it is also a bit misleading. There are a ton of people with college degrees bringing down that figure because they are working shitty jobs at McDonalds and Starbucks while they apply for real jobs.

You are not competing with simply the 8% who are unemployed, you are also competing with the millions of grads who are technically employed but still sending out resumes every day.

[–]DukeEsquire 2 points3 points ago

If what you're saying is true, then you've done something bad to fuck it up.

How in the world do you get 10 internships anyways? Are you 45 years old?

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

10 internships and letters of rec with a degree in Engineering = 70k starting salary

10 internships and letters of rec with a degree in Communications = gooood luck

[–]jack_spankin 20 points21 points ago

It depends on why your resume is shitty. Does it suck because it is poorly constructed, or is it shitty because you have no meaningful experiences?

The cold fucking truth is that by the time you are a senior you have no excuse for either. Your resume construction should be near flawless and your cover letters spot on. Yes it takes a lot of time but the paper gets you in the door.

Even if you don't have a job experience your resume should reflect other experiences. This should include education, internships, volunteer work and special projects.

Imagine for a minute you are an art/design student and when you go for an interview you have no examples of any work. You tell them you haven't any work. You've taken classes but you don't have any stuff they can look at because you've not had that first job yet. Imagine their response. You'd look fucking crazy.

Other majors are no different. Just like the art/design student who shows their portfolio of work your resume should reflect your portfolio of experiences. Sure you've never had a job, but that's a lousy fucking excuse.

Wellness major? Why haven't you helped with a non profit putting on a 5K or helped manage a Special Olympics day or found a team in need of a wellness program designed for them?

Business major? You should have 3-4 small businesses in your community that you have helped. Maybe it's marketing or research or financial restructuring, but you've met and helped them problem solve their issues.

Internships are the easiest thing in the world to create for yourself. People act like they come in a package from Target and when they are gone there are none left. Thats lazy defeatist bullshit.

[–]d_r_w 11 points12 points ago

You're making assumptions that on-the-job experience is what makes a resume "not shitty". That's a terrible assumption to make. For any given major, there are ways to get involved in the form of extra-curriculars that are related to the subject. If not, see what you can do with your university to start one. If I was making a hiring decision based on three people, two of whom just got out of college and one with five years of experience in the field, but not necessarily our particular domain (in the computer world, for example, this hypothetical person was solely writing PHP applications, and we're a Java shop), but one of the college folks started an IEEE chapter and was president of it for four years and the other graduated summa cum laude but had no involvement, I'd be inclined to pick the IEEE person. I'd interview all three, but in this hypothetical, the one who demonstrated drive enough to create and lead a group would be one most predisposed to win, even before the interview had happened. Be involved. Work at leading. It will shine through.

[–]schulzee 13 points14 points ago

its annoying that high academic standing is so disrespected. it takes a lot of self discipline and hard work, and if you're in a technical major, probably a lot of intelligence. believe it or not, there are people with high GPAs that do have social skills and are not arrogant intellectuals. why should they be penalized?

[–]asmodeanreborn 19 points20 points ago

As somebody who graduated with a high GPA out of Computer Science, it's not strange at all. I was great in college, but I really didn't learn the skills that my first job was looking for. I was lucky to have connections enough that they were willing to try me out on an internship, and then I learned. Meanwhile, one of my coworkers was a sub 3.0 student, but a true rock star programmer. If I was my old boss and had to choose between the two of us, I would have picked my coworker every single time.

I'm on my second job in the industry now (and it's been 6 years since I graduated), and in my department, the two by far best programmers (they refuse to call themselves software engineers) don't have college educations at all. Either of them could make it anywhere they wanted in the industry because they're intelligent enough to learn whatever they need to know.

I realize I'm not making myself look all that great, but I just tell it the way it is. Being academically skilled means nothing in the real world. Real world results and drive is far more important.

[–]KobeGriffin 5 points6 points ago

College, the drilling it imposes, and the grades which result, are a very poor measure of what it takes to be successful in RL.

There is no predefined path to success in RL, but there are predefined parameters for success in every class in every university. That is: in college, what to do is (relatively) clear, as is the time allotted; you just have to learn how to do it. In RL, you are more likely to know how to do a few different options, however, what to do, how long it should take, or when to stop are a mystery. You deal with uncertainty extending in every direction, and the better you cope, the better you will do. Of course, there are jobs which mimic school (technical jobs, for instance), but they do not typically offer great pay, security, or room for growth. These are the types of jobs from which older folks are constantly displaced by a younger person who will work cheaper, and harder.

You will find that surprisingly little of that work you did in college will translate to the real world. Really, just the ethic will end up being relevant, even in specialized fields.

[–]d_r_w 3 points4 points ago

Nobody is being penalized, or disrespected. You're absolutely correct that a student who gets the highest GPA is working their ass off to get that result. But who does that result benefit? Further, comparatively, how much research work has the student put out? I've seen students who have the high GPAs and they also take the time out to be leaders in various organizations. It's not easy to do that, especially when you have to (if you have to) factor in having to work a full-time job. But they've done it, and they're prime hiring material. Leadership and grades are not mutually exclusive, but high leadership talents along with knowledge in the trade makes a person far more valuable than grades alone.

[–]_Aggron 3 points4 points ago

i think by shitty resume, he meant people who have stuff to put on a resume, but have made little effort to have it critiqued and reviewed.

that said, no, you're not really. you'll get a job eventually, but not having a solid resume out of college will indeed put you at a disadvantage for any given career goal. the disadvantage being that the good people spent a lot of time accomplishing things in college--leadership roles, unique academic roles, personal projects and accomplishments relevant to what they want to do. you should have meaningful experience without having had a job.

if you're just going to classes and getting a degree, you're not going to have a good time. some people slip through the cracks, but generally, even if you have to start something yourself, its possible to gain real experience that you can put on your resume before you graduate.

[–]shinybluedollar 13 points14 points ago

EXACTLY! When I graduated, I had a job lined up. I graduated one day and started teaching the next. But then again, I spent most of my life getting tons of experience that paid shit when I was in college and grad school.

Being a Teaching Assistant and a Research Assistant pays pennies and i had a hard time making ends meet in Uni, but I was more marketable upon graduation than a lot of other friends that did the bare minimum. I signed up to teach all the summer research programs I could and tutored other college students. Also, my preferred job is to be doing research but I applied to what was available and I pulled all of the strings I had. If I knew somebody who could potentially open doors for me in the future, I made sure to stay in touch with them and periodically check in.

My undergrad prof had a saying "Make hay when the sun shines" In other words, hustle when you don't need to that way, when it comes time to reap the rewards you won't have a hard time.

[–]cuppincayk 13 points14 points ago

Unfortunately, it's hard to even get a job as a teaching assistant anymore. I've given up on the dream of being a teacher. Just kind of trying to figure out what I want now.

[–]shinybluedollar 4 points5 points ago

You need to be persistent. I didn't get the TA-ing jobs right away either. It took me an entire 6 monts to get my foot in the door. Mostly, I would visit the coordinator every week. And I mean EVERY WEEK. I'd just pop in to say hello and remind her not to forget about me.

I posted later on in this thread about how I got my first RA job. I was sitting in the hallway and a prof I always smiled at and said hi to just hired me after she saw me reading a book about pathogenic bacteria. Later (after we became friends) she told me that it was because I was always smiling and I seemed like a "breath of fresh air".

My first RA job I got because a prof offhandedly told me to show up on the 1st day of class while I was cutting his hair. I knew he didn't mean it but I showed up anyway. He was so impressed with my tenacity he hired me even though I didn't have the 4.0 GPA he was used to hiring (I'd slacked off my freshman year). His job helped open up the doors to many more.

It's all about being persistent and tenacious and keeping in touch. People will remember you and think of you.

[–]laublo 7 points8 points ago

I've noticed this is the #1 determinant of whether someone graduates with a job or not (along with effort exerted during fall of your senior year which is when most companies are recruiting). My friends who didn't work during college: no job. Those of us who did: job.

Work experience during college is incredibly crucial, even if you're only earning minimum wage. You do have the time, even if you call yourself a "full-time student."

[–]marzxbarz 3 points4 points ago

This. Not only will having a job in college help you get a job in the future, it also helps you figure out what you're looking for... entering the job market without a clue on what you're looking for is extremely daunting and chances are that your resume will look extremely generic.

Just finished college about two weeks ago, and will be starting at my new job in about two weeks!

[–]laublo 2 points3 points ago

Nice! Congrats on graduating. I'll be where you are in a month or so too.

At this point I just feel bad for my friends who didn't work. They are just as smart as those who got jobs, but things will be a lot harder for them. I know all of them regret it too and wish that they'd gotten jobs. Unfortunately it also heavily depends on the school you go. So much more competition for the relatively few student jobs at bigger schools.

[–]poobly 2 points3 points ago

Also people pick majors based on what's most fun or interesting to them. Fuck that. Ideal world yes, you're Indiana-fucking-Jones tracking down ancient artifacts. Real world, get a business, or STEM degree and watch the history channel or a 55" inch and be able to afford a vacation a couple of times a year.

[–]click_here_to_wait 9 points10 points ago

Much truth to what you say.

However: are you saying that "if all students hustled, all/most would get jobs?"

Or just "the top few hardest-hustling students will get what jobs are available?"

If the first - I respectfully disagree.

If the second - pointing out that the toughest alley dogs get the scraps does not constitute a criticism of the remaining alley dogs.

Not enough to go around is not enough to go around.

[–]jack_spankin 5 points6 points ago

However: are you saying that "if all students hustled, all/most would get jobs?" Or just "the top few hardest-hustling students will get what jobs are available?"

The truth is that not everyone is going to hustle equally or even have the same level of skills.

If the second - pointing out that the toughest alley dogs get the scraps does not constitute a criticism of the remaining alley dogs.

Agreed, but sometimes you need to clue the newest members of the pack that this is indeed a dogfight.

University has a way of taking the edge off competition and removing people from the harsh realities of the musical chairs of the real world.

I always imagined how education would be different if there were always too few chairs for the number of students and those who missed out had to fuck off. How would that change their view of their educational opportunities? Education is so inclusive it sometimes gives students a false sense of security.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

^ it is this very defeatist attitude that is responsible for unemployed graduates everywhere.

[–]click_here_to_wait 3 points4 points ago*

I don't deny that it may not be the most productive attitude for any given grad to adopt. And, of course, I encourage all grads to try their hardest, and wish them the best: jack_spankin's advice seems pretty sound.

But I think you have to admit you're stretching the truth if you mean to imply that unemployment is only due to fear of unemployment - which is literally what you wrote.

I see no reason we can't simultaneously wish grads the best, and advise them to work/try hard - while not denying that they face worse prospects than grads in the past.

What if there were half as many jobs available? A quarter? An eighth? At what point would you acknowledge that the resulting unemployed grads were not "entirely" to blame for being unable to claw their way into the few jobs available?

[–]mishka6 6 points7 points ago

I hustled. I hustled so hard.

I'm a receptionist now, after working for five months at a deli. Where I cut part of my thumb off in a meat slicer.

Don't tell me the people who hustled are the ones with jobs because that is a straight lie.

[–]kjhyung 5 points6 points ago

I needed this. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.... so much TT

[–]o2d 4 points5 points ago

Thanks man, I needed that. :P

[–]U2_is_gay 6 points7 points ago

I got a job right out of school just to have a job and I fucking hate it.

Maybe I shouldn't expect so much out of life, but I'm trying to learn early on that if you aren't doing something you enjoy you will probably wind up on the news after killing your family and then killing yourself.

[–]Adamkat 3 points4 points ago

I learned pretty fast that it's not necessary to have a job that you love but rather a job that you don't hate.

[–]averymonsen 11 points12 points ago

[–]odlogan 2 points3 points ago

All of my fellow graduates are dead...

[–]NoTimeForThat 9 points10 points ago

Please post this on your resume!

[–]greyztaxi 8 points9 points ago

sorry

[–]Chamaeleon 29 points30 points ago

Whelp.. here come the engineers telling you it's all your fault..

[–]shopsmart 2 points3 points ago

Actually no, I have an engineering degree, I have been looking for a real job for 11 months now.

[–]throw_a_weigh11 19 points20 points ago

It's okay! I was in the same boat as you a year ago.

Now I am in a decent job and happy. I was in a terrible spiral that made me question whether I would ever have any success ever. But it gets better.

[–]Oxilery 19 points20 points ago

Out of curiosity, what did you major in?

[–]WayneDaniels 17 points18 points ago

Major in art history they said. You'll get a job out of college they said.

[–]sleepyseanzzz 11 points12 points ago

I don't think anyone had ever said that...

[–]lawlshane 11 points12 points ago

who told you that?

[–]meikana 9 points10 points ago

As long as you have a degree, that's what counts they said.

Yeah.. I regret every single day my choice to be an art major. 2 years out and I make $11/hr.

[–]AndersonCoopersDick 2 points3 points ago

Said nobody ever.

[–]bkporque 99 points100 points ago

Maybe it's because some people figured out early in the college game that there are ways to make yourself marketable getting all the awesome experience that college offers.

[–]BrainInAJar 61 points62 points ago

I worked on a couple open source projects my last 2 years of university. I came out making almost twice what my classmates made out of college.

[–]whatupnig 46 points47 points ago

That's just it, you have to start working early. Education is important, but experience and on the job knowledge will always trump it.

[–]teeheemcgee 3 points4 points ago

Also know your worth. I never realized how skilled I was until I finally sat down and cranked out a serious thoughtful resume. I was amazed at what I could put down. It's too bad I didn't realize my achievements earlier. Do yourself a favor and sit down with the intent of creating a killer resume. The results will surprise you, not to mention the confidence boost.

[–]bkporque 16 points17 points ago

Our school offers stipends in all the student publications and there's hardly any competition to get in. All the designers and journalists that were involved got jobs right away. The sad part is that we always had to beg people to get involved, but the joke is on everyone else now.

[–]autechr3 17 points18 points ago

Then those people get on reddit and bitch about not having a job.

[–]CubicKinase 8 points9 points ago

Same idea at my school. Professors in the Biology/Chemistry department are always looking for undergrads to help with research. 99% of the students in the departments don't take advantage of this huge opportunity and then complain right before graduating that they don't have any practical experience and weren't recommended for internships during school.

As you say, jokes on them.

[–]actualscientist 2 points3 points ago

The number one objection that my peers who didn't seek co-ops/internships/student research positions cited: it seems like too much work. Even from my friends who tended bar and waited tables and all sorts of other taxing studentish jobs. It's crazy. I took an internship at a small engineering firm while I was getting my first undergrad. I did next to nothing, got paid more than I was worth, and got my nights free every other semester for the whole back half of my college experience. I had pangs of guilt it was such a sweet deal. It's pretty much the norm for these kinds of positions. It was also the number one reason I was able to get a job right out of school. I don't know why people aren't lined up around the block.

[–]NufCed57 2 points3 points ago

Wish I'd gone to your school. I failed to make the school paper three times :/

[–]autechr3 1 point2 points ago

I work on campus (programming), and everyone that graduates that works there ends up making like 10-15k more than others with no experience. Also often have multiple if not seemingly unlimited offers.

[–]munchbunny 12 points13 points ago

This. Key points I learned after college about being successful in college, also points I wish I'd followed better:

  1. Work your ass off. Not in class, you should do well in class, but what really matters is that you work your ass off on something you care about. But this isn't because the work you do correlates with your success. It's because you have to establish your work ethic as habit, and because people around you need to know that you're a steamroller with a broken kill switch.

  2. Meet people. You know how those people got awesome jobs right out of college? Referrals. How do you get referrals? Your professors. Your bosses in internships. Your friends. Random people you know. But keep in mind that you have to impress these people first, hence point #1.

  3. Learn to sell yourself. This is a skill too many people don't figure out... ever. Do your research before important conversations. Dress well. Think clearly, enunciate and speak positively, etc.

At least, I wish I'd figured this out during and not at the end of college.

[–]RunningInSquares 5 points6 points ago

I figure I'll get by just saying "Yeah I'm going to grad school!" until I get a job lined up. Since I was accepted somewhere I guess it's not such a terrible lie right?

[–]i_Lean 7 points8 points ago

It's frustrating, I know. I graduated last year, and my friends who actually have jobs are the ones that didn't bother getting internships (or good grades) while we were in college-- their dad just knew a guy. Meanwhile, I had three top-notch internships in college and received stellar reviews in all of them, but here I am still on the prowl for employment. On the bright side: I'm a stronger person now, and I hope you will be too :)

[–]BKD2674 77 points78 points ago

I'd guess for about %80 of jobs it's not what you know, but who you know...

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[–]i-drink-ur-milkshake 11 points12 points ago

In what field? 2/1000 for interviews is fucking atrocious and completely atypical.

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[–]i-drink-ur-milkshake 19 points20 points ago

Ok, nevermind. That makes sense.

[–]sammo62 15 points16 points ago

I worked at a small company and in my time there we hired 7 out of 10 people based on recommendations from friends and family connections.

It really isn't always just straight Nepotism either - it can be hard to find new employees and having a personal recommendation from someone you trust helps a lot. Plus generally most applications you receive will be from people who really aren't qualified for the job you are offering.

[–]rydan 2 points3 points ago

It is actually closer to 90% according to the instructors at some career transition thing I went to right after getting laid off 3 1/2 years ago. They basically said if you post your resume online or send them out to hiring companies odds are no one is going to ever see it or hire you. They recommended giving your resume to your neighbor or a friend and letting them pass it on because somewhere out there is a connection to what you do and you'll get a job much quicker and with less work.

It took me 2 years because I didn't know anyone from outside my previous job. I ended up having to make a name for myself winning various awards while subsisting and almost losing everything. In the end I impressed a VP of one well known company with all my work and ended up with a nice job. Now I have to fend off recruiters on LinkedIn daily.

[–]Niqulaz 6 points7 points ago

Exactly. What OP is doing wrong, is that he should have made sure to be born as the nephew of someone who owns a company, or at least someone who sits on the board of a company or two. That way, he would have been upper middle management right now, straight out of college with a mediocre bachelor's degree in finance.

Alternatively, you have to suck up to a whole lot of people.

[–]karnim 10 points11 points ago

You can join the rest of us avoiding the real world by getting a graduate degree!

[–]Accolade83 29 points30 points ago

Best gif ever

[–]Lunares 6 points7 points ago

Definitely one of the best I've ever seen

[–]farfle10 4 points5 points ago

it's amazing how at first you think it's just gonna be "fuck you", but then it continues... oh so gloriously it continues

[–]atakamoto 8 points9 points ago

I'm saving that now!

[–]pahina1 11 points12 points ago

Good grades get you into university, people get you jobs.

I cant tell you how many people I knew with sub 3.00 GPAs (in some cases way below) had jobs right out of school because of who daddy knew. That is all getting a job it about. Who you know. If you are more qualified, but some other dumbass's father knows the guy hiring, they will get the job over you.

It is a fucked up system, but it is what it is.

-2007 grad still yet to find a job in field of study

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[–]FireFox516 4 points5 points ago

Tell me about it. I graduated with a Bachelor's of Science in Game Art & Design in December of 2010 and I'm STILL having trouble even getting a Testing job. My school promised me that for six months after graduating they'd help place me in something, but they did nothing to help. Been on my own since.

Have to stay optimistic, though. Have to stay optimistic...

[–]Nightlight10 4 points5 points ago

I have spent the last 3 months looking for a work. I DON'T HAVE A JOB BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A JOB goddamnit

[–]GW_missquote 40 points41 points ago

Well that's cold. I worked my ass off for 4 years to get my undergrad in electrical engineering. I freaking deserve the job I am getting.

[–]blackjackjester 31 points32 points ago

You should probably get off reddit and work on that.

[–]menomenaa 9 points10 points ago

Hi, when I graduated I had a great job lined up in a "dream" industry. I crashed and burned and hated it and cried every day and wanted to die.

Then I was unemployed for 6 months, completely defeated because my first job experience made me feel incapable and it made me never want to work again.

Then, I got a job I liked. And now, I still like it. There is no one path. I would have been one of the people you'd tell to "go fuck yourself" and I probably had a worst post-grad experience than you will, even if you're still job searching for a while.

[–]Takamine700 6 points7 points ago

Just curious, was it investment banking?

[–]menomenaa 4 points5 points ago

I'm a girl, so the "dream job" thing might be a bit stereotypical. It was in the fashion industry.

[–]trutommo 7 points8 points ago

Most "dream jobs" are low wage death marches because it's "glamorous" and people who don't know any better apply in droves ready for abuse. Give me well paid obscurity instead!

[–]TastyAnimal 2 points3 points ago

My wife used to work in that industry. It is not a nice place. Out of interest - what did you end up doing?

[–]derpMD 12 points13 points ago

Whatevs. Finding work sucks. Get what you can. Welcome to reality.

[–]salt_addict 7 points8 points ago

This was on or near the front page tonight, but in case you missed it. Here.

[–]PapauNewGuinea 2 points3 points ago

My favorite part of that gif by far is "Jobies"

[–]iKissMySister 2 points3 points ago

I swear I could hear some strange bubble popping / balloon rubbing noise when his arms were twirling.

I think I'm going crazy.

[–]cykyros 2 points3 points ago

Well, even when the economy is going great, unemployment is around 4.5 percent. That percentage includes anyone working at least an hour a week and excludes anyone too discouraged to seek work.

In any capitalist economy, there will be unemployment. Businesses must cut the cost of labor either by paying their workers less, or employing fewer people and offsetting the lost productivity through mechanization. Plus, the presence of the unemployed--or the "reserve army of labor"--pressures those with jobs to work for less or face being replaced by someone who is willing to work for less.

Like the top comment says, not having a job isn't anyone's fault. The unemployed shouldn't be stigmatized.

[–]JiggleBiscuits 2 points3 points ago

No job - yet.

Working on it.

[–]theoderic123 2 points3 points ago

The oil industry is hiring.

[–]nogami 2 points3 points ago

People who graduate with jobs lined up started working on those jobs back months (or years) prior to graduation.

If you wait until everyone else is looking for a job, you're too late.

[–]noCaptainJack 2 points3 points ago

Jobs haha. I remember those :)

[–]sputnikv 2 points3 points ago

i'm so fed up with my field of study that i can't possibly work immediately without putting a bullet to the temple (been studying architecture for 6 straight years). i'm really looking forward to not working for a little bit or doing something outside of my discipline temporarily to brush off the bad taste academia has left in my mouth

[–]baordog 2 points3 points ago

Don't feel so bad. I have a degree in music and we never, ever get jobs. Not even burger jobs.

[–]cutterh 2 points3 points ago

I feel the same way...let's start our own business and then we won't let anybody that has jobs lined up in! That'll show em!

[–]banorange 2 points3 points ago

Do a degree they said, you'll get a job they said!!

[–]Scatman_Crothers 2 points3 points ago

Well as someone with a job lined up who worked hard for it and never did anything to harm you or earn your enmity, you can go fuck yourself too

[–]fragmasster 2 points3 points ago

Seriously, go fuck yourself right back. Four years of working my ass off and developing networks of people just so that I can guarantee myself a job after I graduate were totally worth it.

[–]applefan9 2 points3 points ago

That's why you don't major in art

[–]silentcrs 2 points3 points ago

Pity some people can prepare better than others.

[–]EmperorSofa 5 points6 points ago

Aren't there programs in most colleges these days to help students network? What about internships, stuff like that? It's not like the college can grantees you a job anymore, so you may as well take advantage considering how much of you money you give them.

[–]hooizyoo 14 points15 points ago

All the people criticizing the op on this are ridiculous. The fact is that the economy is in a recession and that the majority of college graduates will not receive job offers upon graduation. I remember graduating in late 2008 as the economy was collapsing. My degree is in hospitality management, from one of the top hospitality schools in the US. They have a career fair every semester for people graduating within the next year. I remember that the last semester that they had it while I was there, the number of companies that participated was about half of what it was the previous semester. On top of that, about half of the companies that did show up flat out said that they weren't hiring and only came to keep their company name relevant. I remember the big companies (Hilton, Marriott, Starwood/Sheraton, MGM, Harrahs/Now Caesar's) all did interviews for management training programs. Each one of them had 200-300 applicants at my college and only about about 15-20 available positions throughout the entire country, not just for applicants from my specific college. I remember sitting next to a girl at a banquet schmoozefest where a lot of these same companies showed up to speak with graduating students and get a free meal. She told me she had a great job lined up with a big, well known company because her dad was friends with the hiring manager. This type of thing happens much more than people know or are willing to admit. The fact is that these days, your chance of landing a good job are based on who you know as much or more than your qualifications, knowledge or what your capabilities are.

[–]Alinosburns 2 points3 points ago

According to something in the local paper in my country the other day. 76% of the year 2010 graduates had "found Work" by May 2011. it didn't elaborate what found work meant. If it is in conjunction with degree that would seem more reasonable in my mind.

But it's still a large amount of people not getting a job. There are 250 student's in my degree. meaning that 60 of us won't have found work by may next year(We graduate in november

[–]hooizyoo 2 points3 points ago

Found work doesn't mean a management position or even a decent paying job with a career path. It includes $8 an hour front desk jobs (what I as well as the majority of the people in my graduating class obtained) which requires no formal education or training whatsoever, mostly just a willingness to work for peanuts and eat shit for eight hours a day.

[–]mach250 6 points7 points ago

Why can't you be happy for other peoples success? Maybe it will be helpful in the end..

[–]wh44 2 points3 points ago

This. I can't believe I had to go almost to the bottom to find it.

[–]prosciutto_spaziale 8 points9 points ago

Have you thought about the Army? You can shoot guns.

[–]Fnoggins 9 points10 points ago

What did the guns ever do to you :/

[–]UNionized 3 points4 points ago

My new favorite gif.

[–]policedisco 2 points3 points ago

My advice... Don't sweat it. I took a year off after college because I couldn't find a job. Go explore. Do something you never would have. I spent 8 months in Colorado working on a ski lift. I was poor, ate a ton of ramen, drank my balls off and had one hell of a time!!!

[–]hAxehead 14 points15 points ago

HOW DARE YOU BE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN ME

[–]MIXEDGREENS 2 points3 points ago

It's pretty human tendency.

I feel the same way about neurotypicals. Having my bipolar disorder manifest during my third year of college on a full-ride as a national merit scholar turned my bright future into a smoking heap of self-loathing, self-sabotage, contempt for my peers who didn't suffer sudden mental illness who went on to be successful, and envy of those born with their illness so as to not suffer the false optimism and crushing despair of the loss of their dreams.

Of course, through my journey, I've discovered I value relationships above all else and consider myself the richest man in the world being able to come home to a beautiful girl with whom I am desperately in love and who loves me as well.

But I still kind of hope all you bright-eyed and bushy-tailed kids who have been coddled by your middle-class upbringing and have never faced true adversity get your hopes and dreams ripped from you in as dramatic a fashion as they were from me.

It's nothing personal.

[–]lbizz 8 points9 points ago

No, thanks though.

I'm truly sorry the OP doesn't have a job lined up, and all of the rest of my graduating peers that don't have jobs lined up, but do we have to rag on me for having a job lined up? Good for me man, I just got offered the job this afternoon and I'm fucking elated. It was really hard and I got lucky, I'm sure. I'm sure you'll get lucky soon enough, with all of your hard work too.

[–]ch4rrr 8 points9 points ago

I understand your frustration. When I graduated, a lot of my friends immediately got jobs just because their family "knew people". That kind of thing really sucks. But I sucked it up, put myself out there, and now I have the best job I could ask for (out of college, anyway) based on the career path I chose. You can do it, you just have to swallow your pride for a bit and stop being so bitter about those who have easier connections. Because trust me, I had NONE. And yes, fuck them. But you can't just pity yourself or you'll get nowhere, settle, and in turn become more and more miserable.

[–]Qzy 1 point2 points ago

Well, I don't want to make a job post, but I do look for a backend/frontend programmer in Copenhagen/Denmark.

[–]Tyrien 1 point2 points ago

I'd assume that's resume material.

[–]samsterlicious 1 point2 points ago

i see you driving round town to the job i want

[–]goldcrackle 1 point2 points ago

I feel this way and I graduated two years ago. Oh god if I keep going on like this I'm going to be saying the same thing 20 years from now. I should probably get my shit together.

[–]Dunkelz 1 point2 points ago

I honestly have no idea where I'm going to go next year when I graduate with my B.S. in Criminal Justice. Lots of people think it's a joke degree, but my school takes it incredibly seriously and is known for it. I've had federal judges, big city district attorneys, and defense attorneys who have tried supreme court trials be my professors, but I am terrified that I might have to settle for a career as a police officer (no offense at all to them, I have met MANY incredible officers in my life) when I desire more. I would love nothing more than to become a paralegal, I don't think I could stomach full on law school, but damn I think the idea of a paralegal is what I want to do. Even though NY state doesn't require (or atleast a lot of places don't) an actual paralegal degree, I think I am way under qualified for such aspirations.

Hopefully I have some fellow Criminal Justice peers feeling my pain...

[–]nickxero 2 points3 points ago

I knew someone who graduated with a Writing degree, had worked in a law office during school, then went through a certificate program to become a Paralegal. It didn't seem like an arduous or long process and she has a job now.

[–]wanderingtroglodyte 2 points3 points ago

More school isn't going to qualify you as a paralegal. Getting out there, and getting a job is going to do so.

Try volunteering at the DA's office, or call your local bar association. If you're up for a change, pick a big city you want to live in, and plaster the firms (of whatever you want to do) with your resume and cover letter.

Best of luck! (Also, though I'm just finishing up law school, I may well end up taking a job as a paralegal. Balls.)

[–]BradMonstR 1 point2 points ago

Going through this myself. Wish I had more upvotes to give. :-/

[–]elvisliveson 1 point2 points ago

fuck, i remember the 90s, everyone had job offers waiting up the wazoo..every tech company had $65,0000/year jobs to start and couldn't wait for enough students to graduate. come 2001 everything starts going downhill. jobs replaced with boondoggles and all of a sudden everyone's writing loans. ffs!

[–]sunshine-x 1 point2 points ago

where'd ya find that gif? nice..

[–]kehrk 1 point2 points ago

Okay, so what, you're hating because some of our lives are taking off faster than yours? What happened to being happy for your bros? Or are you just the type of slacker that feels entitled to reward and responsibility because they "tried?"

[–]PronAddict 1 point2 points ago

Oh boy do I empathise with this post. I left my application for grad positions too late (entirely my fault) and ended up fluking a grad positions with a pretty shit company. 1 year later im applying for a grad positions with the bigger companies for 2013.

Good luck mate.

[–]Funktapus 1 point2 points ago

What if I told you that you could stay in college?

The real world can wait. Graduate school, guys.

[–]seafood10 1 point2 points ago

Do not go out and buy a brand new car if you are still renting your domicile. I have seen it too many times, graduates college, gets orgasmic with entry level position paying 38k and goes and buys a new car and now has payment

So in a typical scenario the graduate has rent, school loans, car payment and during the first few years they go out every night and spending a fortune on drinks and other party favors.

Few years down the road you meet the girl of your dreams, you got a 3k/year raise, still have all of the above expenses and you are now stuck in the corporate world forever, cannot quit because you have to pay everyone and maybe now planning a family where your wife will stay home and you are responsible for the bacon, corporations love employees with debt because they have to work hard to pay off their debt.

Me, I did not do any of that, I went to school but I worked a corporate job, drove the same car from college and started my own business working nights and weekends and by the time I was about 35 I owned a number of rental properties in Los Angeles , still driving the same car. I can go on but after only about 18 years out of college I am now retired and love being a mr. Mom do not get in debt, never ever get in debt.

[–]The_Derek 1 point2 points ago

3 years running, yep.

[–]Simonific 1 point2 points ago

Should have taken engineering and done co-ops (internships). Not even done 2nd year and I already have at least 2 positions lined up for when I grad, with plenty more available if I so desired.

[–]rabidferret 1 point2 points ago

Degreeless. Got a job anyway. Sorry bud, it's not just graduates.

[–]Youngpoorscientist 1 point2 points ago

after 160 applications mailed out i finally got a job as a microbiologist once i graduate in june. u will get one don't worry.

[–]az3r132 1 point2 points ago

I personally don't know you. But i know a lot of people with the only thing they have on their resume being their diploma and some public service job like cashier. These people don't even network in their field and wonder why they won't get employed. I laugh at them.

I advocate self employment over normal employment though.

[–]aquietmidnightaffair 1 point2 points ago

As someone who finished grad school and is currently unemployed, this gif made my night!

[–]erndizzle 1 point2 points ago

I have a job lined up! starting March 15th a few weeks after exams end.

[–]Sc2RuinedMyLife 1 point2 points ago

you seem really bitter.

what did you major in?

[–]mynameisboourns 1 point2 points ago

I've said this many times before but fyi, by far the easiest way to get a job (if you're competent) is through a temp agency and/or job placement agency. Most people assume temp agencies are only for secretarial jobs, but if you live in a decent-size area like SF or LA or NY, there are agencies that specialize in everything from law firms to engineering firms to graphic design firms.

I had one friend who poo-pooed the idea of going thru a temp agency after graduating with a law degree and he spent several months sending out a few hundred resumes and cover letters. Out of all of those mailing he got four interviews and no job. After I finally convinced him to go to a temp agency he got a job cleaning out the fridge at some law firm's kitchen in a couple of days. While doing his job, however, he talked to people wandering into the kitchen and when they found out he'd just graduated with an emphasis in tax law, they hired him as a lawyer.

This may sound like a fluke but it's not. Once you're temping at a company and they can see that you're not a fuckup and would be a good fit, if there's a position open, there's a good chance they'll offer you a full-time job.

In total I have three friends who got full-time lawyer jobs thru temp agencies, four friends who got full-time engineering jobs thru temp agencies, four friends who got enough connections to go contracting full time in technical writing thru temp agencies, and seven friends who scored full-time graphic design jobs thru temp agencies. Some took several months to get the full-time gig, but during those months they got sent on many short temp gigs and were never really hurting for money, plus they got to scope out the working conditions at several offices so that they had a better idea of what constituted good and bad work environments.

[–]DerivativeMonster 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, fuck those guys. Seriously.

[–]Swartz142 1 point2 points ago

Try living in a small town with 0 referal from friends and family in the field you studied in... ಠ_ಠ

Worse, imagine that if you ever had a negative contact with someone in the industry (bad luck or anything) that would be the end of your career in that field.

And then while you keep looking for a job as a programmer, the career you left as a welder is now in crisis... because too much people are retiring, they offer job to anybody who can put 2 piece of metal togheter and press the trigger at 19$/h.

And of course everyone around you found a job 5+ years ago, keep working there, bought a house, get married and think about having childrens while you tell yourself that maybe next month is the last time you can pay the rent, maybe mcdonald isn't that bad after all.

Yeah, feels good to be at the same point in your life as you were 8 years ago... when you were 16.

/rant

[–]mildiii 1 point2 points ago

a shot to all the unemployed grads... my your resumes and portfolios shine.

[–]kjorlaug 1 point2 points ago

Now that's just inconsiderate. I would say go fuck yourself instead. People get what they earn in the end.

[–]Shyamallamadingdong 1 point2 points ago

After I graduated, I was desperate to get a job - so I took a pretty shitty one.

Yada yada yada, six months down the drain, until I finally quit and looked for a job I really liked and I found one!

My advice - don't take up an offer just because "It's a Job", make sure you do something that interests you - you won't regret it!

[–]mongolinvader 1 point2 points ago

Maybe you should have gotten a degree in a field with strong demand.

[–]McDickButt 1 point2 points ago

I won't even consider a job where I have to look presentable and kiss ass. I changed my major to computer science so I don't have to sell my soul to land a job.

[–]UsingIE6isTorture 1 point2 points ago

Find temp work, make yourself invaluable while you are there, and get hired on full time when your temp position is up. This is my advice for anyone who didn't get an offer out of college.

[–]GoLightLady 1 point2 points ago

It's ok, they won't like them after 6 months, or will suck at the tasks and get fired. Unless they have government jobs, you're just as lucky as them.

[–]ggushea 1 point2 points ago

Wish you all the jobs and all the upvotes.

[–]alteron808 1 point2 points ago*

Sorry, man. I knew that feel until yesterday. I actually got a job after being turned down when another applicant dropped out.

My best advice is to stick to an allotted time for applications each day (I used to fill out two a day, once you get through a few with amazing and heartfelt responses, you can copy+paste them!) and make a similar allotment of time for your mental well-being. I'm not kidding, depression is a big risk in an extended job search - go bike, go read, take a nap or watch TV, whatever helps you unwind. It'll also help you from getting jaded in applying or initial interviews.

EDIT: I'm an engineer, and I don't buy into the typical engineering circlejerk of "4.0 + all-nighters = job". You sure as hell need connections, even if you're the most brilliant programmer/comp. eng. guy/mech. eng. guy in history.