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[–]blueboybob 13 points14 points ago

Bring it to a lawyer to read over

[–]BenjaminSkanklin 3 points4 points ago

That sounds incredibly expensive. What kind of legal team do you keep at your disposal?

[–]tomdarch 14 points15 points ago

How many hundreds of thousands of dollars are you spending on this house? If you can't afford a few hours of a real estate lawyer's time (a few hundred dollars for a simple purchase) then you can't afford to buy a house. When you sign those documents, you personally become liable for those hundreds of thousands of dollars.

If you were writing a check for $250,000 to buy in as a partner in a bar or an ice cream parlor, you'd have a lawyer represent you in that business deal right? Buying a house is a business deal - and odds are you don't know a damn thing about the details of the state laws that apply or the legal precedents that interpret those laws.

If a real estate agent or mortgage provider ever tells you "oh, you don't need a lawyer" or worse, "Oh, our in house lawyer will explain this to you" ... run.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

It doesn't mean a lawyer is going to protect your interests. It just means a lawyer is going to charge you hundreds of dollars to read a document you should be able to read yourself.

[–]SR71-boss 0 points1 point ago

Psst, you think I can afford said house? That's why I got a mortgage.

[–]StrangeWill 0 points1 point ago*

Seeing how many people actually do this, but how high this gets voted every time, it's mainly just another Reddit circle jerk opinion mainly by people that have say... taken on college loans and never took those to a lawyer...

So take it with a grain of salt. Armchair opinions and all that.

Let alone, this.

[–]BenjaminSkanklin 0 points1 point ago

The other guy who responded to me made a pretty valid point, if you're going to dump a quarter million into a house then you should be able to spend the money on some legal advice before you sign anything.

[–]TROLLLLLLLL 0 points1 point ago

Go to www.pe.dobea.r.gov, The man that owns this website will give you the address to his house and you can go over the contract there, he may even have free candy.

[–]dale31 13 points14 points ago

[–]bloodflart 1 point2 points ago

I just refinanced and it took about an hour and a half of signing papers as the dude explained what each one was. He said one lady read every single line before signing and it took over 7 hours.

[–]Forlarren 4 points5 points ago

He said one lady read every single line before signing and it took over 7 hours.

So what he is saying is if everyone actually read their contracts the system would grind to a halt. Yet we must still assume these contracts are perfectly valid and all parties were equally informed.

That is what bothers me about the EULA/contract society we have become. If everyone took it seriously it would never work but we keep acting like ignorance is no defense, when it is in fact critical to the functioning of the system.

[–]BenjaminSkanklin 0 points1 point ago

A lot of things are like that. Take debit/credit/check fraud for example. If they actually scrutinized each transaction and verified signatures then nothing would ever get accomplished. It's much less time consuming to allow everything to go through and sort out the illegitimate things later.

[–]Alpha_Angel 0 points1 point ago

You would have a fucking aneurism if you knew how ridiculously detailed tax law is. I highly doubt there is a single individual alive that knows every code by heart.

[–]SimilarImage 6 points7 points ago

[–]sachegrande 1 point2 points ago

Really? Only 4 days ago?

[–]miss_louie 1 point2 points ago

I fucking hate these lame repost comments. Guess what cunt. This is the first time I've seen it, and I laughed my ass off.

[–]TacticalNukePenguin 1 point2 points ago

Oh, you missed the other 5 over the past 5 weeks that made it at least to the first three pages of r/funny -.-

[–]bob-leblaw 1 point2 points ago

Was in mortgage finance for 10 years. Will give you Cliffnotes on it if you want somebody to look at it. Black out personal info, I'll check it if you'd like.

[–]WHealy 1 point2 points ago

This guy is legit, his name is similar to a law blog i saw once.

[–]TheJack38 1 point2 points ago

This is how I feel when reading my linear algebra homework.

[–]IcySeal 1 point2 points ago

It gets better.

[–]TheJack38 1 point2 points ago

Having studied more since I wrote that

Yeah, it actually does :3

[–]IcySeal 0 points1 point ago

Now longterm, I don't know if I can make the same promise.

[–]TheJack38 0 points1 point ago

Heh, I only have this course for one semester anyway. xD

[–]FuschiaLucia 0 points1 point ago

Oh man, if you only knew...

[–]v1rt 0 points1 point ago

I work in Insurance for a major bank. Let me help with the Insurance part.

  • Never lapse in coverage. Not even for a day or the bank will charge you for the day or days you lapsed by placing it's own coverage on you, regardless of whether or not its your fault or your insurance company's. Oh, and the coverage they will place on you is going to probably be, on average, 3 times as much as what you'd be paying someone else. This may vary from bank to bank and from area to area, but this is pretty standard.

  • Understand what might happen in the event you incur a loss on the home. Your bank has an interest on the property until every penny is paid and has the right to monitor the claim if it deems necessary. Knowing how your bank handles losses to a property will save you a lot of headaches in the future and it's good knowledge to know.

  • If you have an escrow account, don't sit on your hands until you start getting notices from the bank or from the insurance company (or both) saying the bank hasn't paid your insurance renewal or that the insurance company hasn't sent your bank the yearly renewal notice. Be proactive and make sure these two completely unrelated companies handling your business are communicating with each other and have the means to do so.

  • Related to the last bullet: look up terms like "Mortgagee Clause" (the address your insurance company will use to send your mortgage company documents) and make sure your agent/insurance company has the correct one because your bank may have 1, 2, 3 or 15 different ones. Know the fax# and/or e-mail address as well to send documents if needed.

And if you just refinanced, do the above anyways because it could have changed

If you follow all the above advice, it'll make your home owning experience much easier.

Also, I've found USAA, Allstate and Geico very good in terms of customer service. I'd stay away from Liberty Mutual/Peerless/Montgomery Ins/Indiana Insurance (They're all the same) and American Family. Individual experiences may vary, it's just that in my years of doing my job, they've given me the most headaches.

[–]xampl9 0 points1 point ago

The deal is - they tell you the same information several times. The government, the lender, the mortgage broker .. each has to repeat it to you, lest you sue them.

Really, the HUD-1 form has everything you need to know.

You should hold onto it, btw. If you ever refinance, or decide to turn it into a rental property, it will be your record of how much you paid.

[–]JoshuaLyman 0 points1 point ago

Really, the HUD-1 form has everything you need to know.

As long as all you want to know is the amount advanced at close and the points, sure the HUD1's all you need. If you actually care about the terms of your mortgage and ensuring that those terms are consistent with what you were told, you might want to read and then match up the language in the promissory note to the GFE (good faith estimate).

[–]1wiseguy -3 points-2 points ago

Did you ever read a mortgage contract? They are simple.

I guess years ago, they were complicated, but then they enacted the "truth in lending" laws, and now, a child can understand it. I've seen sushi menus that are harder to follow.

I kills me when somebody claims they were fast-talked into some kind of bad mortgage deal that they don't understand. If it was any simpler, you'd sign it with a crayon.

[–]FaptainAwesome 9 points10 points ago

So... You're saying I shouldn't have signed my mortgage contract in crayon?

[–]getsome13 -1 points0 points ago

Even worse when I had to try to act like I knew what it all meant when I bullshitted my way to explaining it to my fiance when we were both drunk.

[–]Its_eeasy -1 points0 points ago

I was thinking the gif would be this one

but yours is certainly more fitting.