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Faith in god.... (i.imgur.com)
submitted 5 months ago by thedarklord187[]
[–]dietotaku 122 points123 points124 points 5 months ago
i believe this is officially the 1,000,000th time i've seen this posted!
[–]ANDpandy 82 points83 points84 points 5 months ago
congratulations! You won an Ipad!
[–]VelvetWaldoJeffers 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
Okay... This is hilarious.
[–]dassouki 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
Why did you click the link 999,999 more times
[–]dietotaku 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
OCD
[–]quadrapod 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I personally would just use an Explosively formed penetrator for any actual assassination attempt on a high profile individual like this. That three inch laminate would be like tissue paper.
Here's some EFP slow motion porn
[–]Inky_musty 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Where are you going to get your hands on something like that?
[–]quadrapod 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
A concave copper plate could be hand forged, and high explosive is not as hard a thing to get a hold of as it likely should be.
[–]ItscalledCannabis -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 months ago
/r/atheism proving that fact is much more stranger than fiction
[–]thegrim99 32 points33 points34 points 5 months ago
This might get down voted to hell, but the previous Pope was shot while traveling. Of course it was possibly KGP agents, but whatever..
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_paul_2
[–]Craigellachie 15 points16 points17 points 5 months ago
This also might put you down but he forgave his attacker as well. Real bad example that pope was.
[–]expandingmess 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
the pope is also a politically charged entity, forgiveness is in the rules of what he preaches. he would have been a massive hypocrite if he hadnt forgiven the shooter.
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[–]SlasherX 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Since when did jews kill jesus? You're reading a different book than I am.
[–]TrebeksUpperLIp 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
The Sanhedrin sort of forced Pontius Pilate's hand in having him executed. Goes the story.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
and then when Pilate wanted to free Jesus and Kill Barnabas (seeing Jesus just as being another illuminated, nothing too dangerous), the Sanhedrin sent a few men in the crowd to motivate them to vote to free Barnabas... lol
[–]ahlaenxna 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Actually, for much of Europe's history, anti-semitic feelings were popular; jewish populations all across the continent were discriminated against and forced into poverty. When Hitler took it to the extreme he did, hatred of Jewish people fell out of fashion.
[–]mindembiggener 27 points28 points29 points 5 months ago
Well, if the pope got shot it would be "God's will." Who is he to question God's will? I think that is the point here, not whether it is reasonable for one of the most famous and controversial people in the world to ride in a bulletproof-glass car.
[–]GrelodTheKind 32 points33 points34 points 5 months ago
Maybe it's God's will that he ride in a bulletproof car. Checkmate, Atheists.
[–]martymcflyer 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
And on the 7th day god decreed Pope though shall travel in bullet proof cars!
[–]FreeGiraffeRides 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
If God is pulling the strings, every abortion is God's will
[–]WonkaKnowsBest 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
what if it was God's will that the guy was supposed to make this for the pope?
[–]CakeSmasher 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Accoridng to Christians, God's will is unstoppable. All the bulletproof glass in the world wouldn't help, God will find a way.
So why waste money on it them, Mr. pope?
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 months ago
You're asking a guy who lives in the biggest art collection in the world, sleeping in a golden bed and sitting on a golden throne about why he's wasting money?
It was God's will for them to buy the bulletproof glass?
There is no point in applying rationality to religion...
[–]NolanRoss 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
It's kinda like when kids play war.
I have armor
Well I have special bullets
Well you missed anyways
No I didn't I hit you
[–]Moon-Atomic -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 months ago
Human will would kill the pope. God's will has never killed a single person
[–]SuperSural 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
Not sure if trolling or has never read bible.
[–]Moon-Atomic -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 months ago
The old Testament is largely hyperbolized, and, honestly, false. At the end of the day, the bible isn't even important. God is. Atheists especially seem to think christians believe in some bearded guy in the clouds, condemning people to hell. They believe that God wrote the bible, or told the writer's what to say. That's not the case. God is a force, not a person. The words in the bible are simply unimportant. The stories are. The story of Jesus Christ and the acts of the apostles, those are real. Some old myth about how God destroyed cities and such are explanations for seemingly unexplainable events, tossed with a little bit of fancy and sprinkled with rumors, theatrics, and exaggeration. So sorry if I ignore such fallacies as Noah's Ark or the parting of the Red Sea, but hasn't science already disproven that such things happened? Even so, acts like assassination ARE perpetrated by humans out of human will, therefore the glass is necessary.
[–]IamGonnaStopTalking 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
except for the whole angle of death thing..
[–]ImposterProfessorOak 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
what was that catastrophic flood that killed nearly everyone then?
[–]abenton 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Gods will at work. Why is this pope trying to impede?
[–]landob 24 points25 points26 points 5 months ago
I share an atheistic view religously these days, but I was always taught that you put faith in the lord, but not foolish faith. Don't walk out over a cliff and expect god to catch you. Same here, he knows people would love to kill him so take steps and protect yourself. Just like an average every day christian white woman dont take a detour thru compton california on foot at 2am.
Yeah but this is the fuckin' pope. You'd think he'd have a bit more favoritism on such things.
[–]President_Cow 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Free will means humans can still murder each other, even if the victim is faithful.
Yeah, I guess, if God wants to let the Pope die every time they go out in public...
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
The definition 'foolish faith' seems a tad redundant.
[–]acolossalbear 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
What a brave statement in a place like this.
[–]Kgbeast1 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
If you don't like it, then why are you here?
[–]stevospc 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Faith in the lord, not faith in humanity. Humanity is fucking crazy.
[–]Phage0070 -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
So put your faith in the lord unless it really matters. Super.
[–]Rhakan -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 months ago
Exactly. Even as ridiculous as religion is, arguments like "if the pope actually believed in God then he wouldn't take any steps to stop someone from killing him" are straw man arguments of the most obvious kind.
I find it quite silly that we need to stoop to this level of poor logic in order to make fun of religion given that it almost makes fun of itself.
[–]needs_a_username 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
Relevant SMBC.
[–]iesvs 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Not quite Bill Hicks verbatim, but close enough.
[–]Rawtashk 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
People in the world have free choice, it's up to you to protect yourself from them.
I can ride a unicycle while blindfolded over a tightrope suspended over an alligator pit.....but it doesn't mean it's a very good idea.
[–]FreeGiraffeRides 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
A lot of christians believe that while still somehow simultaneously believing that it's god's will when something happens to them as a result of other human actors.
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[–]Jess_than_three 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
I don't think that Christians think that. I do think that a lot of Christians think that whatever happens in the world is "God's will", which confuses me because, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, if the Pope were to get shot, that would obviously be part of the divine plan. (See also medicine and even prayer as attempts to subvert said divine plan.)
[–]dler32 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
If the religious are so quick as to say that Christopher Hitchens' death was god's will, and that Osama's death was god's will, then we can make the assumption that the religious believe that human lives are in gods hands, in which case, surely his most highly regarded representative would be protected by "god's will", hence the seemingly redundant need for an armored, bulletproof vehicle.
If god does not promise physical safety, but at the same time promotes the physical harm of non believers, that is a truly petty and unworthy god to worship.
[–]dler32 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
If some lives are in God's hands, then we can assume all of them are, unless God doesn't agree that all men are equal, which Galatians 3:28 clearly says he does.
Quoted for the lazy: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"
So does God go further to differentiate between us? No he does not.
"For there is no partiality with God" (Romans 2:11).
So my argument from assumption, to intermediate conclusion, to conclusion stands supported and logical. The only fallacy lies within the assumption itself, that our lives are in the hands of God.
But that was never an assumption I made on my own (obviously, as a non believer), but rather an assumption made by many religious people the world over, when they believe that the deaths of those they dislike are acts of God.
[–]venkmanman 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
The atheists of r/atheism have a very childlike view of Christianity.
I suspect most of them are very young.
[–]Tm0 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Polls were taken, the average age was like 21+
[–]Username20x6 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Ya, I took a poll on a porn site, it said 100% of the users were 18+
[–]HATES_BLIND_HATERS 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I have you tagged as "Doesn't know what theories are". Interesting...
[–]venkmanman -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 months ago
And I have you tagged as "Typical atheist spouting nonsense".
rolls eyes
[–]gribbly 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
The atheists of r/atheism
...are not a monolithic group
[–]EdinMiami 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Isn't it so much more fun now that you can come here and say what you like but /r/christianity complained and got the mods to force civility in your own subreddit. Now compare your own cowardice to the Pope.
The irony just keeps on rolling.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
How do you know he was from /r/christianity? I'm from /r/atheism, and I still think half of these people don't really understand what they're bashing and just bash to be bashful (not sure if it's the correct usage of bashful, but I had to keep going).
[–]EdinMiami 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
bash to bash (bashful is shy)
edit: if you (specifically you) don't like my use of the word "you" then assume I meant you in the general sense of the word and not specifically you in relation to venkmanman
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
Thanks for the info.
[–]Buscat 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
you do hear them say that "everything is part of god's plan" pretty often, but you're right. They never consider it god's plan that they would get hurt.
[–]Harnellas 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Precautionary measures seem to be quite the opposite of my understanding of the term faith. I admit to a bias however, as any expenditure by the catholic church on this useless symbol of a man strikes me as blatantly hypocritical.
[–]konakona24 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Are you implying that God would not protect his chosen representitive to mankind? That seems a little ignorant.
[–]dler32 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Of course not. His intention was for Christ to die. The only reason he sent Jesus Christ down to Earth was to die for the sins of mankind. Why would he protect him? Jesus Christ was little more than a messenger and a pig raised for slaughter.
For a God who can create the universe and everything within it with his almighty supernatural powers, a sadistic and pathetic God he must be indeed to formulate a method so horrific for removing/forgiving sin from the world, when it should've taken little more than his own wishful thinking.
[–]Riceater 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Compound that with the thought that he created a practically endless universe, that we'll probably never get to see/visit most of, all for one species on one tiny planet with the sole purpose of worshiping him for eternity and if we don't he sends us to a place to be burned and tortured forever (aka no end).
If this is the reality I was born into, I wish I was never born...
[–]EdinMiami -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Who is saying that god protects his followers from physical safety?
The point is that the Pope is scared for his life. Why? Didn't Christ die as a martyr? Death is nothing more than an earthly consideration. Why does he fear it? Is it god's will that he insulate himself from the people? Is it his will that his voice on earth must hide behind glass?
Those are rhetorical, blinders are blinders.
[–]Crrack 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Well in this hypothetical, God has chosen to give the Pope cancer so who is he to decide that God was wrong for doing so. What makes him smarter then the all mighty.
[–]Crrack 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
No, that's you putting words in other peoples mouths like you've done all over this page.
If you truly believe God has a divine plan than you wouldn't need to concern yourself with modern medicine.
A "reasoned" conversation with a Christian is impossible because the very premise of Christianity is... unreasonable.
Of course it's relevant.
God has dished out these diseases/illnesses for a reason (if he has a plan). By curing them, you are going against his plan.
We can go back and forth all day, but in the end you just can't put rational thinking and reason behind an argument for Christianity.
Nice deflection. Continue to look straight ahead.
[–]FirstRyder -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
In the form of a bullet-proof shield? No. But through the power of faith and prayer? Yep.
[–]FirstRyder -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Yes, it's amazing how there are contradictions in the christian outlook. What's your point? Are you suggesting that Christians as a whole don't believe that faith and prayer have power?
You have missed the point of the meme entirely.
Plus there's plenty of reason to impute an immature belief system on to the Pope. The entire belief is immature and it would be naive to think otherwise.
[–]ImposterProfessorOak 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Psalms 121:7 The LORD will keep you from all harm--he will watch over your life;
[–]ImposterProfessorOak 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
probably not, if we apply this logic to the rest of the bible something interesting happens...
[–]FirstRyder 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
The Pope, who was conscious until going into surgery, suspected that he would live, thanks to what he earnestly believed to be the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Our Lady of Fatima.
(From the wikipedia page, and a story I've heard elsewhere.)
Now tell me again that it isn't part of the catholic belief system that the pope (not necessarily uniquely) receives supernatural protection.
[–]TheChurchOfSagan 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
Don't wear a condom, if your supposed to get pregnant it's God's will....but surround yourself in bulletproof glass because an all powerful being cant stop a murderer
[–]Leaningthemoon -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Don't wear a condom because baptisms are expensive and we need the money. . . . . . . . and a place to put our wieners
[–]MadLintElf 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Notice the driver does not have the same glass as the passenger!
Maybe the driver has faith....NOPE
[–]Skolekid 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Less people think the driver is an idiot
[–]Boo_This_Redditor 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Am I the only one who noticed he's rolling in a benzo?
[–]CoupledPerfect -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Boo
[–]superwinner 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago*
The pope being killed while promoting gods words wold be a guaranteed first class ticket to heaven if you ask me. You'd think, if he really believed in such a place, he'd be happy as hell to be sent there.
[–]HaydukelivesAZ 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
The glass isn't to protect the pope, it protects any young boys he might come apon while out and about.
EDIT: Freudian slip, misspelled a word.
[–]danleeks 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I wish these pictures included the 20 secret service looking dudes that run alongside the vehicle. It pretty much screams "well you don't expect god to protect me, do you?
[–]YourFaceSucks 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Boring
Maybe he's afraid of God's retribution for his blasphemy.
[–]kaisermatias 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
That photo cuts out the swarms of bodyguards running along the Popemobile. And the cops lining the roads keeping people away.
True believer, that Pope is
[–]Ariomon 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I brought up this point with my agnostic dad and he trolled me good. His reasoning for it was that it was to prevent someone committing the sin of murder.
[–]learnebonics 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Also ironic considering...
[–]iLoginToComment 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Whenever I see this I always think......RPG?
[–]lipsheutz 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I wonder if the driver ever wants to break suddenly while the pope goes flying into the glass. What a great mental image.
[–]idonotcollectstamps 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
You don;t get to 2 Billion followers without making a few enemies.
[–]S1lents 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
In a Mercedes.
[–]Lots42 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Come on. This is the one time I'm going to have to go against the atheist school of thought.
I fail to see why bulletproof glass couldn't be the work of the all powerful, omnipotent diety they believe in.
something about a valley and walking /shrug
[–]ericchen 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
God works through the hands of Corning Inc.
[–]Charlievil 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Not only is this a repost, but does anyone else wish this kind of stuff wasn't in r/atheism? I wish there was another subreddit for atheists intelligent discussion of serious issues like /r/atheist but no-one goes there.
[–]Del_Castigator 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
This isn't faith in god this is faith in man.
[–]Themex 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Even though I'm not Christian either, he actually rolled down the window in Mexico while wearing a sombrero.
[–]stinkymonkeh 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
TIL that the pope rides around in a custom Mercedes
[–]moronic_comment 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
The glass isn't to prevent bullets getting in, rather it's for bullets getting out.
[–]BurlyBrownBear 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Well, he isn't wearing a seat belt. I guess that can count as faith in god right?
[–]bosswoodfox 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
-bill hicks
FTFY
[–]ddam 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
As Penn Jillette says, we're all atheist. If you wear a seatbelt, you don't believe in God; if you look both ways before crossing the street, you don't believe in God; if you wash your hands, you don't believe in God.
[–]forcedtolie 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
It's bullet proof, but let's see him fare against Thor's hammer.
[–]lolzmaster69 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
a religious argument would be that God gave humans free will, so they could kill the pope if they so desired
[–]Fleshgod 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
"Pray to God and he will protect you!"
An hour earlier
"Hey, so is that bulletproof glass ready? I don't want to get hurt, you know..."
[–]arcainic 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
To be absolutely fair, it's only 3 inches.
[–]northbayray 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
The Pope's got a sweet hat and a Benz to match his robes. And he doesn't give a single fuck.
[–]mrcloudies 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
In a custom built Mercedes no less.
[–]upvotesfortheworthy 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
He can't trust someone that doesn't exist and even if god did exist he doesn't care about us
[–]apb1979a -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
rationality in r/atheism: nothing says "intellect" like upvoting an old meme for the hundredth time
[–]FapsAtGarrus -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
The car and glass was a gift of God, therefore God is protecting him!
It's stupid, but I guess that is one way the Catholics can defend the use of the car.
[–]HiggyBaby -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 months ago
Yeah guys. He's in a bullet proof glass because of people like you guys, who are attacking people like him. Wouldn't you be afraid too?
[–]jasokant 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
Yes. Us dangerous atheists on reddit are to be feared.
[–]HiggyBaby -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 months ago
Um, no need to be nasty? I respect your beliefs, if you want to believe that, good for you! I'm happy for you! Not gonna say, "You terrible person! You'll burn in Hell for everything you've done!" I don't care that much. As long as you respect me, I'll respect you!
[–]VeryMild 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
You directly insult us and insinuate that we are the cause of this delicious irony, and then get offended when you are responded to in a quite tame manner?
In addition, I don't respect religion. It has committed far too many crimes against humanity.
[–]Beaver420 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago*
You respect our beliefs yet call us murderers
[–]HiggyBaby -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 months ago
You misunderstand. Or maybe I do. I did not DIRECTLY call YOU murders. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
[–]EdinMiami 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
There is no misunderstanding. You were quite clear. People who do not believe in god are likely enough to kill the Pope that he must protect himself. Nothing unclear about it.
Of course, none of that gets down to the real reason the Pope is behind the glass.....he lacks faith in his convictions.
[–]HiggyBaby -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 months ago
That's true. (Glad someone understands :D) Yeah, guess we'll never know why he's behind that glass! :/
[–]EdinMiami 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
We know. That he or his christian followers deny it doesn't make it any less so.
[–]jasokant 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
..............................................wat?
[–]HiggyBaby -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
Confused about..?
...pretty much absolutely everything you said. You sure you didn't respond to the wrong comment?
[–]Kerrt -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
The Jesuit/CFR press should report the religion of both the offender and the victim that we may be given a fuller understanding of undeniable, criminal dominance among certain religions—Romanism, Atheism and Islam.
“This avowal of UNIVERSAL SOVEREIGNTY perfectly corresponds with the History of the Jesuits in all ages.—Their real standard is ATHEISM, and they only employ Popery as a Stepping-stone to the attainment of this end.”
John Spurgeon, Anti-Tractarian Tracts, “The Principles of the Jesuits.”, Second Series, Number 11, (Norwich, England: C. Muskett, No date; mid-1800s), p. 3.
[–]Farmschwiem -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
original...
[–]Bergs_ -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Old picture is old....
[–]ltjkid -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Come on reddit. Are you really going to make fun of Christians when they finally do something logical?
[–]konakona24 -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Seen this like 17 times in the few months I've been here.
[–]checksumfail -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
FANKS I NEVA SEENT THIS B4!
[–]JIZZCOLLECTOR69 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
Nothing my Barrett cant penetrate.
[–]Ey_mon -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
I just thought of something, maybe not all the popes actually believe in god, they just like the idea of them being the voice of someone's god or something like that, I don't really know what the pope does other than be an old man with a lot of power
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