How is this acceptable again?

WhyAmINotStudying · 6 months

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karikamiya1234 · 6 months

not wtf.

a picture of a man screwing a tailpipe is wtf

this is not

karateblitz · 6 months

When this was posted earlier last year, I read on a comment saying that the man had prior convictions in petty robbery and/or drugs charges. So the 15 year conviction kinda makes sense. Although he was remorseful, he should have realized the seriousness of robbing a bank, especially being a black homeless man.

squigs · 6 months

Well, the "homeless man" had several previous convictions, was the person entirely responsible for the crime, and was a direct menace to an individual who had the right to perform her job without being threatened at gunpoint.

The CEO was a relatively minor conspirator in part of a larger organisation. The cost was purely financial and any hard done was fairly abstract. Nobody was put at immediate fear of their life as a direct result from these actions.

His position of CEO was pretty much in name only and he was something of a patsy here.

It's still a little imbalanced, because the CEO had representation and the bank robber didn't, and this is an inherent unfairness in system but not nearly as WTF as implied.

Lee Farkas was the ringleader and chairman and was sentenced to 30 years.

z1mb0bw4y · 6 months

This has probably been said multiple times, but the guy's homeless. Prison is a massive boost in "home-havingness" than homeless. You get 3 healthy meals per day, a bed, a roof over your head, and time to exercise. This man has it made now.

cragwatcher · 6 months

the devil is in the detail, which none of us actually know. Until we have all the facts, we cant say if this is fair or not....

did the homeless guy have previous convictions? the corporate guy was jailed for 'his role' - we dont know what it was...

on the surface it looks shit, but who knows?

Vuul · 6 months

He now gets a place to stay and free meals

mikecngan · 6 months

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ConorMaximus · 6 months

Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world.

greenbags125 · 6 months

It's a great way to get three squares a day and a roof over your head for 15 years

Aikidi · 6 months

Fraud is non-violent and doesn't require a weapon.

TChuff · 6 months

Ah this again. First they are in different states with different legal systems. Second, the bank robber had previous convictions.

Darrian · 6 months

Umm.. he still robbed the bank. This isn't elementary school where you can just say you're sorry and everything is fine.

Edit: oh didn't notice the part above that. In any case I have no problem with the homeless guy doing time for robbing the bank, but other guy should have done serious prison time too.

83alx · 6 months

Armed robbery is not fucking fraud.

edit: He had his hand in his pocket but what would you think was in there in that situation?

CiXeL · 6 months

sounds like he was doing him a favor. he wont have to worry about a meal or a place to live for 15 years.

shadow1515 · 6 months

I'm guessing the homeless guy did that on purpose so he has a place to live and food to eat. Not to mention healthcare, which plenty of people with jobs and homes don't even have.

xtian11 · 6 months

Clever homeless person gets home for 15 years.

enjoythenow · 6 months

Isn't 15 years in prison good for homeless people?

I heard they have Cable, Gym, a bed, food, a library, and courses to turn your life around.

That sounds better than sleeping on the cold streets for even 1 more year.

Not sure if the system is fucked in this case or if the judge meant to give him a home for 15 years.

roxitor · 6 months

What if they put the homeless man in prison so that he would get free food, water and a roof over his head?

srvstrat71 · 6 months

To be completely fair he's going from homeless and hungry to having a bed, toilet and meals every day....prison seems like a better living situation for him to me. Fifteen years is a long time though its true

Li5a · 6 months

Man, the system is just so fucked. Did you know that in the CSC (Correctional Services Canada) there are only 3 people in the human rights sector... THREE PEOPLE. And that is including one co-op student. Mother fuckers.

probo1 · 6 months

HEY, at least now he has a home!

A taxpaid home :D

Everyone wins!... except everyone:(

MONDARIZ · 6 months

Although I’m not really surprised, it’s funny to see how many redditors find a nice ray of sunshine in that story: the poor guy has a home now. How the hell is it possible to miss the point so completely? It’s not about those two guys, but about a penal system that so obviously is not blind. That does not meter out fair and just sentences, and that do not represent something most people associate with justice.

champsd · 6 months

Paul Allen= American Pyscho

doctorralph · 6 months

To be fair, Paul Allen does have some really great business cards.

pmcfarl · 6 months

Mandatory minimum sentencing?

jaygibby22 · 6 months

40 month sentence for being greedy, but a 15 year sentence for a minor felony that was committed in order to stay alive. Honestly I think the homeless guy got rewarded for stealing - free food and housing for 15 years sounds better to me than 15 years living on the streets not knowing where your next meal is coming from and where you will sleep

HisRoyalHIGHness · 6 months

This isn't always true, however, there are times when homeless people get caught for crimes intentionally so that they have a room and a bed. This is especially common for those in places with harsh winters. Perhaps in the case of this homeless man he had done that a few times and has now violated the three strikes rule, causing the length of his sentence to increase. There are so many unknowns with this story, not to mention the bias of the journalist etc.

supermegafuerte · 6 months

If I were a homeless man, I wouldn't bat an eye at being given a 15 year lease, three meals a day, a place to shit, medical care, and a bed. It's not ideal, but it's better than living on the streets.

supergingerlol · 6 months

I'm so happy that I don't live in America! :)

jdubsbody · 6 months

Well he is black..

[deleted] · 6 months

Maybe the judge did him a favour? At least in prison he has a bed, shower, food and healthcare to look forward to everyday. We don't know any other facts surrounding this but perhaps he was better off in prison.

You might argue that this is a retarded argument to make, because he has been denied justice and what-not but I'd argue that there is no justice when a man (or woman) has no home, food or healthcare and the state doesn't intervene to help.

Still, I'm speculating.

Skitrel · 6 months

Robbing a bank with your hand under your shirt whether or not you have a gun is still a fucking horrible thing to do. The person on the other end of the interaction has no option but to THINK that you have a weapon. Ever been robbed at gunpoint? I'm pretty sure I'd find it fucking terrifying.

Not sure about over there in America but over here in England this is classed as armed robbery regardless of actually having the weapon or not and as such you'd be subject to getting charged with armed robbery, regardless of handing yourself in. The starting point for armed robbery? 15 years.

I see no problems here. There's definitely problems with the rest of the system, in that he should be able to get the help he needs to detox if that is indeed what he needed the money for, but armed robbery is still armed robbery and it still affect those on the receiving end of it the same.

Phreakradio · 6 months

If the guy is homeless and hungry...wouldn't prison actually be an ideal place, aside from the constant threat of death and rape?

aletoledo · 6 months

It's called government. More specifically democracy. It's two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

bongtin · 6 months

Who the fuck would downvote this post?

Edit: typo

bonecrusher1 · 6 months

rich people always get short sentences or dont get sentenced at all... this world orbits around money

JDStrings · 6 months

I guess he'll at least have a warm place to stay and shouldn't go hungry for a while. Although I don't know much about prison.

ZeldenGM · 6 months

In the UK it's the other way round. Some of you might have seen that uni student who got jailed for 'racist tweet' about a footballer that collapsed. The judge jailed him for 52 days saying he should handle his alcohol better.

In Leicester a couple of years before, 2 somali women assaulted a white women in a drunken hate attack leaving her badly beaten and needing intensive hospital care. The 2 women were let off with a community service order because 'they were not used to alcohol due to their culture'

British Justice = Broken.

engibeer-me · 6 months

how is this repost on the front page again?

empw · 6 months

How is 40 months slightly less than 6 years?

deadly990 · 6 months

Is everyone forgetting that he is homeless? perhaps he committed the crime to BE put into prison where he would get shelter and food, although at substantially higher risk in other factors.

ColonelFlashman · 6 months

Prison is going to make that homeless guy healthy, sober, fed and warm if he wants it to.

Ninjazanus · 6 months

In all fairness, jail might be better than homelessness.

RhinoFeeder · 6 months

In America, Prison >> Homelessness

2brainz · 6 months

No matter how often this gets reposted, it will change nothing. If you want to change something, get off reddit, go into politics and fix the broken US justice system.

Huangdingo · 6 months

Has anyone considered the possibility that the homeless man asked to be sentenced to jail for that period of time? Given that he is homeless and needed money for a detox centre, he might have seen prison as the best way. He now gets room and board as well as health care. Pretty smart idea if you ask me.

FlyingVolvo · 6 months

Capitalism is what's happening. The people with money get shorter sentences. Even if they do some shitty things.

appleofpine · 6 months

So...

15 years with a roof over his head, with a meal every day instead of living on the street, sometimes going without food?

Yea, he must be angry.

EvenSteam · 6 months

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0p8tjWYpj1ql8wa5.jpg

uncute · 6 months

Systemic racism, anyone?

ConfutatisMaledictis · 6 months

To all those people who says "At least he gets food, blah, blah" you can not imagine how terrible is being in prison.

Every person in jail is privated of their freedom and that affect their mental health, they usually get violent actions to other prisoners and nobody really cares.

You people, thinking like this is really sad. You have a terrible injustice in front of your eyes and, instead of move your ass to make this world a better place, you try to make it look more acceptable.

Rmanager · 6 months

Prison is not a home. I have no real problems with either of these cases and I'm laughing at Reddit's bandwagon jumpers. Still, please stop saying he's "better off". Being in prison is not easy.

skunks66 · 6 months

While I understand that picture doesn't represent the whole story I find it funny that everybody is saying robbery is MUCH worse than fraud because worst case scenario is a couple people get shot. What you guys don't seem to realize is that in most cases fraud can cause many people to lose their WHOLE livesavings. Granted they made bad investment choices but usually by the time the fraud gets discovered the money is all gone and the people that invested never see a penny of their money returned. Many of these people that lose all their money are retired and have to go back to work and move in with their kids. Fraud ruins way more lives than armed robbery. Fraud>armed robbery

rakust · 6 months

Came in here for racism and corporation hating.

Was not let down, stay predictable Reddit.

OttawaMarcin · 6 months

Would be easily appealed with the right lawyer as unjust punishment. Also, prior convictions? He's homeless, what were you expecting. Dump people on the street and think their need for food and shelter will disappear?

His biggest mistake was turning himself in. Your mother raised you to be stupid. If society isn't taking care of you when you're down and out, you don't owe society anything.

Snigen · 6 months

This is fucking disgusting, not to boast about my country, but had he done that in Norway, we would have given him the 100 dollars AND given him help to get a job. Fuck this..

[deleted] · 6 months

Ignoring the amounts for a minute, just consider that one guy walked up to another person and took money under threat of deadly harm, while the other probably just fudged some numbers in a computer.

Aside from that I'd be willing to bet that the homeless guy had prior convictions and was probably even on probation, while the other guy surely led a mostly clean life prior to his arrest.

The big difference is the amount taken, but there's no question who's the bigger threat to the general population.

whimmy_millionaire · 6 months

If I remember from the last time this was posted, the guy on top was one of many who were arrested, and he cooperated and turned on the other guys for a lighter sentence. The one on the bottom, robbed a bank and had prior convictions, and probably couldn't afford a proper lawyer. It also doesn't say if he used a weapon to threaten the cashier, which (and I'm no lawyer) automatically carries a minimum sentence.

devinlucifer · 6 months

The homeless man got more jail time because he was sentenced in Louisiana, and the CEO was sentenced in Virginia. The homeless man was black. I'm positive that racism played a huge part in the homeless man's sentence.

RyuKenya · 6 months

homeless guy just got a roof over his head, access to free health care and 2 square meals a day, i would say that was a very wise and calculated decision..!

SippinPippen · 6 months

SIGH fucking repost, obviously if you read into it, you would see that it was his 3rd strike. do some research before posting up stupid bullshit that has been recycled over and over and over and over and over

jcampeon · 6 months

Only in America....the land of the wealthy and the hypocrites

cyvaris · 6 months

Because he is black.

Zeraphim · 6 months

He just wanted a home.

PurplePower · 6 months

Dont worry Patrick Bateman gives paul allen the axe.

...ITS HIP TO BE SQUARE!

nunother · 6 months

3 Squares a day and a roof over your head? Money well spent homeless man. Good job.

wnighttrain · 6 months

He's better off in jail anyway. Free food, shelter, and access to learning.

Aldesso · 6 months

It Only works in America

WTF

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