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I'd like to show this to some people. (socwall.com)
submitted 5 months ago by galdor557
[–]woahification 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
Conversely..
[–]King_Henry_of_Spades 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
THERE IT IS! Jesus Fuck it took forever for someone to find it. I've scrolled through the entire comments section looking for this, waiting for the second half to be posted.
To the top with you!
[–]woahification 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I went through the comments too, to make sure I wouldn't be reposting. How awkward would that have been, eh?
[–]galdor557[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
THIS ^ makes it so much better. Thank you.
[–]Ragnalypse 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
"Significant" is a human concept. The universe doesn't give a shit if it's significant.
Since significant is anthropocentric to begin with, it's logical to say that we are significant.
[–]VWftw 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Very articulately stated, thank you.
[–]VWftw 41 points42 points43 points 5 months ago
I disagree with insignificant because all of that vast infinite space isn't people. We are all of a very limited edition and our place in this cosmos is up to us to decide. If the universe is completely indifferent to you then you are free to intrinsically define meaning.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
We may be significant to other people, but in the great big scheme of things we're not even noticeable. Just one little atom in a drop in the ocean. Why would anybody think that a 'god' would single out this little bit of rock for special attention?
[–]bobpndrgn 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
As in one look can change the future. Not sure what theory this is but I think Stephan Hawking wrote it...
[–]VWftw 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
The big scheme is your entire life, to throw it's significance away and still be alive is wasteful.
Who said I'm throwing my life away? I'm just not egocentric enough to believe that this ball of dirt is all that important when compared to the entire friggin' Universe.
[–]VWftw 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
It's not egocentric to value this ball of dirt as it is the only home we will ever know. There is a big beautiful universe out there, nobody is contesting that, but we're not going there right now. We have to take action with our given abilities within our life spans rather get lost in despair and pathetic apathy. The Earth is important, so is your life.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
The Earth is important,
Yes, to humanity.
so is your life.
Yes, to me and mine.
But why would anybody believe that we're that important in comparison to This?
[–]VWftw 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Because we are related to it. We are a part of it. Star stuff, contemplating the stars.
[–]thatpeterguy 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, so I have your back on your very valid points.
We're just as significant as anything else in this universe because we're all part of the universe; we're just the universe aware of itself. Fucking poetic.
Sure, on a size scale, we are quite insignificant to the rest of the universe. But it all depends on how you're defining significant. And where we are, we're pretty significant.
[–]rasputine 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
He was never downvoted, he un-voted for himself. Don't complain about votes.
[–]thatpeterguy 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Yeah...not really complaining, just textually wondering something.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
But it all depends on how you're defining significant.
That's what I've been saying all along.
Fucking sugary sweet sentimental shit.
Sure, on a size scale, we are quite insignificant to the rest of the universe.
Wahey! He finally gets it.
And where we are, we're pretty significant.
Or maybe not.
Your perception is that of the fish in a tank. You acknowledge the world outside your own as infinitely larger and falsely assign arbitrary value to the world you can't live in. If you can comprehend that the universe is indifferent but not that it is significant then you should find some people to love or passions to explore.
[–]windg0d 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Chaos theory?
[–]SubtleMockery 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Because importance is relative. If I never existed, then, from my "perspective" none of that was ever important at all. A universe without inherent meaning is one in which subjective meaning can easily be created.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Yep. But I'm not talking about from your perspective or mine. I'm talking about from the perspective of the Universe.
The universe has no perspective. The whole thing could blink out, just like our galaxy, and it wouldn't matter.
[–]VeteranKamikaze 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Our entire species, our entire planet, even our entire solar system, the sun and all the planets...
..fuck even our entire GALAXY could completely disappear tomorrow in the blink of an eye and it would make ZERO difference to the universe as a whole.
[–]SubtleMockery 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
So?
[–]VeteranKamikaze -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
So we are DEFINITELY insignificant. Significant things matter, things that could completely disappear without a trace and that happening would make no difference in the grand scheme of things are not significant. We are as significant to the universe as a single grain of sand is significant to the entire human race.
[–]SubtleMockery 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
Significance is completely subjective, because the universe is indifferent. NOTHING matters. Anywhere. No matter how big it is. The entire universe doesn't have any meaning or purpose. There is no "grand scheme of things" in which anything could matter. Ergo, whatever level of significance we ascribe to ourselves or our kin, is sufficient and has nothing against which to be measured.
Well lets put it this way. I'd call gravity significant because the universe would collapse without it.
[–]cach-e 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I think you're missing his point. There is no objective significance, it is a human concept. The only reason the universe collapsing is "significant" is because you think so.
[–]VeteranKamikaze -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
I got his point I was disagreeing with it. Even though significance is a human concept it can still be argued and demonstrated that one thing is more significant than another.
Not really, because it's totally dependent on who it is significant to.
[–]cach-e 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
"[it can be] demonstrated that one thing is more significant than another"
That's the point. You can't. How do you measure significance? Signifiometers?
[–]VeteranKamikaze 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Not familiar with the term "argued" which you conveniently left out when quoting me, huh?
[–]rasputine 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Not only that, but the entire universe couldn't even notice, even if they were watching us intently, for thousands of years after our disappearance.
[–]VWftw -2 points-1 points0 points 5 months ago
That's also called dying.
I don't suggest it, but it's also an inevitability we'll all get to experience, so there's that.
[–]briang1339 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
True indeed. But to the rest of space we are of no significance at all. We may be unique (as far as we know), but that does not make us important in my opinion. Arguably, we just damage the world around us.
[–]Sgeo 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
I'm important to me and to my friends. What do I care whether I'm important to the unfeeling cosmos?
The whole point is that we are insignificant on a universal scale so funny enough it's absolutely irrelevant whether or not you even care.
[–]briang1339 -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Right I know. Youre missing my point. The vastness of space makes you and your friends completely unimportant. You can be important to yourself and your friends and the world we live on, which is terrific and it is the whole point of living. This does not make your life meaningless at all.
[–]VWftw -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 months ago
Last I checked space wasn't doing much on its own besides waiting patiently.
Arguably, we just damage the world around us.
Stop it then. Jerk.
[–]briang1339 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
jeez dude sorry. Besides, its not necessarily ME it is our species as a whole. I am just saying that the argument could be made that WE actually do no good whatsoever and actually just do negative things to the space around us.
Well that's why I said what I said, your inclusion of everyone in your broad generalization is silly. I work with many organizations and we definitely do our best to improve the world and detract the damage caused by others.
Good for you. But sorry, WE still do a lot of damage despite the SOME that does some good. Obviously you're offended by being put into a group that does something you do not approve in. We have this in common. I am just saying that people have done a lot of harm. No controversy there.
Well check out some of Hans Roslings research, the world is getting better everyday and there is statistics to prove it.
[–]HardDiction 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Organic life could be extremely common. Even intelligent (on par with human intelligence, however you choose to classify this...) could be extremely common. We don't know how many other sapient being exist in the universe...
In any case, our planet is still insignificant to the universe at large...
[–]VWftw -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
our planet is still insignificant to the universe at large
Try living someplace else then? Oh you can't. I'd say that's significant.
Uh. Yes, you likely could live on several different planets in our galaxy. And likely millions, or billions in the universe. Don't be an ignorant shit.
Do you know about the time and resources required to travel to those planets? Don't combine hate with ignorance.
We aren't talking about the difficulties involved with getting to those planets, we are discussing that this particular planet is not in any particular way significant in the Universe at large.
We are the Earth part of the universe at large. Star stuff, contemplating the stars. This guy says it so nicely.
I'm aware... That still doesn't make us 'significant' with regard to the ENTIRE universe... There are likely billions of sapient beings created from star stuff... It's excellent, I enjoy it, but it is insignificant with regard the the universe at large.
Well you seem pretty stuck on that opinion so I'll leave ya to it.
[–]DeadlySight 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
How do you know we're a limited edition? There's a chance there's 1000s of civilizations out there.
If there were 1 humanesque race in every galaxy, we wouldn't even know it because the galaxies are all so far away. Think about it, a civilization 1 million lightyears away could be evolving at the exact same rate as ours, they could be just as technologically advanced as us, yet if they didn't start sending transmitions and traceable evidence until a thousand years ago, we wouldn't know for another 999,000 years
That would only add to our limited existence, for we are not them, nor are we there.
You're right, I said we might not be a limited edition, not have a limited existence. Two entirely different points.
Everything technically has a limited existence, hell at one point the universe didn't exist. It's amazingly egotistical to assume that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, or that we matter at all in the grand scheme of things.
I take solace in the fact that I'm an insignificant speck in the universe, and this is my one life to live, but no matter what I do it won't change anything.
So you're a kind of solipsist and don't think that's egotistical? Come on man. If you've acknowledged you only have this one life to live but aren't willing to be admit you have the ability to change things relative to your life, then you are just idling for death.
I'm not a solipsist at all, I believe there are tons of real people, organisms and entities in the universe. I'm not arrogant enough to think I have some special little place, that I ultimately matter. I can change plenty relative to my life, but it's all relative to my life. I can't change ANYTHING relative to Proxima Centauri or further away, but I'm atleast willing to admit that the universe is MASSIVE and humans as a race are insignificant, at least up to this point in our history.
I really don't know how you drew the conclusion that I was in any way a Solipsist.
Your viewpoints are the same, only in reverse. You're saying everything exists but inside your mind it is not significant. Over arbitrary reasons none the less, what would you be doing messing around in Proxima Centauri that would bring significance to your life that you can't draw from on Earth anyways? How can you justify away our entire species progress and current existence is nothing short of egotism.
Not inside my mind, in reality. It's insanely egotistical of anyone to say humans are significant. I don't need to mess around in the Proxima Centauri system, my point is, we have no effect on them, humans don't matter.
If there are aliens in the PC System, we've had no effect, and might never have an effect on them. Therefore we're insignificant to them. Expanding that to the 100 billion billion stars and you start to realize just how small and insignificant our race is.
Since philanthropy is lost on you lets try a science approach.
The viewpoint of insignificance is one of no application, it is also one of defeat and apathy. Without application we would not have the sciences we enjoy today such as the knowledge of the size and scope of the universe.
How can you say with a straight face that the human race, which can't get out of it's own solar system, let alone anywhere near another star, in a universe of 100 billion billion stars, is significant. It's amazing.
You say I'm have a solipsist point of view, yet I never said anything close. You say now I have no grasp of philanthropy, which is wrong.
Are you just going to keep using words and ideologies that have nothing to do with me to keep trying to describe me because you don't understand their meaning?
I understand philanthropy. Part of encouraging the human race is also objectively understanding our place in the universe. I'm not a defeatist or apathetic, I'm all for knowledge and understanding and would love to see humans continue to evolve and who knows, one day reach another star. I'm still able to look at the big picture and know that we, as a race, are insignificant. Maybe insignificance scares you, I don't know.
[–]blazingscience 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
I just want to say something.
Significance is a subjective trait. It requires a conscious mind to be meaningful. Stars and galaxies are inanimate objects. To them, nothing is significant because they don't have the capacity of thought.
To you random people reading this, I'm insignificant. If you saw me, I'd be another face in a crowd. To my brother, I'm one of the most significant things in the universe and vice versa.
If you're going to say something is insignificant, I feel compelled to ask, "Insignificant to whom?"
Humanity is significant to me, because I'm a human. It's not significant to some race of beings living on the other side of the universe, but I don't really give a damn what they think. Those beings are insignificant to me.
I agree completely with what you're saying.
I think a lot of what bore this image into life was the notion many theists get, being we view ourselves as significant, therefore there must be some divine reason to our existence rather than simply existing. I think simply existing is quite exciting, because anyone who knows even a bit about evolution knows that we arrived to this point in our evolution through anything but simple means.
[–]SubtleMockery 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
And also the astronomical odds against us existing.
[–]hayashirice911 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago*
"...These ingredients (nitrogen,oxygen etc.) become part of gas clouds that condense, collapse, form the next generation of solar systems. Stars with orbiting planets, and those planets now have the ingredients for life itself. So then when I look up at the night sky and I know that yes, we are part of this universe; we are in this universe. But perhaps more important than both of those facts is that the universe is in us. When I reflect on that fact I look up. Many people feel small because they're small and the universe is big, but I feel big because my atoms came from those stars." - Neil Degrasse Tyson
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[–]keberos 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago*
I want something like this in Facebook cover image dimensions. Yes, I'm quite aware I'm being lazy. I'll see if I can pull it off later, but my image-fu is weak lately.
[–]thefreq 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
I'll see what I can do. :)
[–]Jollyranchr 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Although some people find this to be quite depressing, it's actually kinda nice to know that all your problems really mean nothing in the vast scheme of things.
[–]JeremyKean 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Oooh, so size matters? Not the fact that we are alive or thinking?
Ok, yeah. Fuck us. Our sun doesn't think, I mean, it's just a ball of hydrogen and helium. But it's bigger than us.
How about our brains? I mean, they're so stupid and tiny! Pssssh. Who cares that it's taken a few billion years to fine-tune them to be as shitty and sophisticated as they are, today. They may seem cool. But compare them to The Pillars Of Creation and maybe you wouldn't be so impressed.
I bet that VY Canis Majoris and his big star friends have developed hundreds of languages by now... Oh, they haven't? Whatever, Canis still has a radius of 3 billion km.
This post doesn't really deserve a diatribe. But I get kind of frustrated when people always seem to insist that humans are no big deal because we're half a spec on the ass of a spec, orbiting a spec, among trillions of specs.
I say fuck that. Life is significant to other life. We are a pretty big fucking deal, no matter how large we are in size.
[–]oftenalone 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
You are 1 human being.
Composed of 78 organs.
Composed of around 100 TRILLION cells.
Composed of around 7 OCTILLION atoms.
Composed of....mostly empty space... never mind
[–]mycroftxxx42 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
My heart is an engine that runs on dead stars.
[–]eltycreative 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I hate this solely because of the kerning.
[–]Natt_Gray_244 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
TIL what "kerning" is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning
It's an important but overall annoying aspect of typography.
[–]gsrt 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I'll leave this here, as I think it's both related and beyond awesome. His Noodliness knows how many hours I've spent starting from the quantum fabric, scrolling ever-so-gently until I reach the other end. Think I even teared up the first time.
[–]PivotalPlatypus 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Relevant.
[–]auandi 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
This doesn't treat the universe in a relativistic way though. Yes hundreds of billions of other star systems exist in this galaxy and hundreds of billions of galaxies exist, but given the relativistic limitations on travel for all real purposes most of it might as well be theoretical since we will never reach them. So from our perspective, our "universe" is not the whole of the universe, so why compare ourselves to it?
We are such a freak occurrence, the number of things that have to go right to get self perpetuating chemical compounds complex enough to understand what a self perpetuating chemical compound is boggles the mind. I would propose this uniqueness, not in the face of the whole of creation, but within the realm of our localized area of creation, makes us utterly and fantastically significant.
We shouldn't diminish the fantastic nature of our self awareness by comparing ourselves to a quadrillion fusion explosions millions or billions of light years away traveling away from us at high multiples of c. Many of these are so far away it is possible light itself could not reach them between now and a hypothetical end to the universe.
I just don't see the point of diminishing what is by all objective measures a crazy, unlikely series of events that is unique in that it allows us the self awareness to marvel, analyze and dream about the majesty of our own unlikely existence. Marvel at the vastness of space, but do not try to use it to diminish what we are, we are unique, we are significant, the fact that we can analyze significance at all ensures it.
[–]idonotcollectstamps 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
We do not have enough data yet to determine if abiogenesis is a rare occurrence or a common event. Intelligent, self aware, tool using sentient life might be an eventuality for most star systems containing semi stable temperature planets, or it might be so rare as to have only have occurred one time in the entire Universe.
If I had to place bet I would bet on extremely common. Gravity forces hydrogen to clump together everywhere in the universe. Star formation happens everywhere. Planet formation happens everywhere. The same chemicals are available pretty much throughout the entire universe. Evolution is more than likely a universal force. More than likely abiogenesis is a commonality and the multiverse is just brimming with life.
I highly doubt life is a freak occurrence, although I could be wrong I do not think that I am. Life might be able to arise through multiple different combinations of chemicals and forces. With things like the Fibonacci sequence being a universal constant and the fractaline nature of the cosmos life follows rules just like gravity and the strong and weak nuclear forces.
Lovely sentiments. Not what this image is trying to convey, though. Basically, why would a god pick out one little tribe in one little corner of one little rock indistinguishable from billions of others? It just doesn't make sense.
You don't understand the point of his/her post, then. He/she is saying that we are more significant than the image is portraying us as. I'm sure he/she gets the point of the picture in relation to the deity aspect, but bear in mind that he/she isn't arguing that. He/she is arguing the definition of significance that this image is placing on us, which is only in terms of size. Yes, we're small in comparison, but we are by no means insignificant.
I understood exactly the point of auandis post. I'm saying that he didn't understand the point of the OP.
[–]rdwj 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
oh, this again. How long until someone posts the "enormously significant" one?
[–]King_Henry_of_Spades 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I was going to say. Jeez, I've scrolled through the entire comments section, thinking, "where's the second half?"
Nobody's found it yet. Let's just wait.
[–]MrTurtleSlap 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
This is a lame way to look at it though. I like to think the world is my world because once I die, the world is over. At least for me it is. So I am actually extremely significant to myself. This post to me just seems like you're trying to cut down on someone feeling good about themselves, which is cool and all I guess....
[–]Unending 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
This makes me feel nothing, other than enormously significant. It is an amazing fact that we exist in this universe. That alone is astonishing. To be human is of great significance. We have so much information, and yet so much more to learn from the universe around us. To exist at the current peek of civilization, culture, technology, and science is truly significant. We as a species are significant. And, as a unique individual among billions, you are significant. I suggest you re-evaluate your stance on life.
[–]OneofthemBrians 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Someone needs to watch Neil deGrasse Tyson's- The most astounding fact.
[–]DangerousIdeas 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Wasn't it NGT who said he feels empowered knowing that his particles used to be shared by the cosmos?
[–]simpletonlol 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Where is the other half of this pic? OP mutilated a good picture. Props to anyone who can find the full one.
I just found this on stumbleupon.
[–]Bladelink 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Thanks for the new desktop background bro.
[–]SimilarImage 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
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[–]Joe_The_Atheist 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Even though it's been years, I still forget that we only have 8 planets. RIP Pluto.
[–]WhoMouse 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
It's not like Pluto is gone. It just doesn't fit the rules of being a planet.
Scientists realized that if they made Pluto a planet, they'd have to keep making more and more dwarf planets into planets. We'd end up with a ridiculous number of planets and have to re-categorize them, at which point Pluto would be out of the major 8 anyway.
Before, it didn't fit size, composition, orbits, or even naming conventions of the other planets. It was the foreign kid at the table full of native adults. Pluto would be happier now if it was capable of emotion. Be happy for it since it can't be. :)
[–]Nevermind04 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Regardless of it's planetary status, I am anxious to see the results of New Horizons in 2015 which will pass Pluto and study it's 4 (+?) moons. Sadly, it won't be able to study Eris, which has been a particular fascination of mine. However, it should be able to poke around the Kuiper belt for a decade or so, which will be interesting to watch. Since the Kuiper belt is visually hard to distinguish from the backdrop of the milky way, not much is known about it aside from the existence of several large "dwarf planets". It'll be interesting to actually see pictures of stuff that's ~3.5 billion miles away.
No kidding! As much as we have learned about the universe, out around the Kuiper belt holds so much unknown...right in our own cosmic backyard.
I bet human beings are the first interstellar species to recover the Voyager 1 & 2 golden disks.
[–]oftenalone 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Ask kids what pluto is in 30 years... it's as good as dead! :(
[–]WhoMouse 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Not if the kids are taught about science. Pluto is one of (if not the) biggest of the dwarf planets, so it would be discussed. Do we not learn about the moons of other planets? Asteroids? Saturn's rings? There's plenty to learn about with Pluto.
It's just not something kindergarteners will learn to chant after Neptune any more. But when it comes to actual science education, you bet it will be there, heading up its own section on dwarf planets. Sure, it won't be as prominent, but it will be there. Heck, any decent teacher will teach the history of how it got demoted to help teach what makes a planet a planet.
If a kid doesn't know about it in 30 years, then they didn't care to pay attention.
[–]oftenalone 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
"any decent teacher will teach the history of how it got demoted to help teach what makes a planet a planet." good point, I was talking more about the kindergarteners chanting.
[–]sj070707 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
DAE find this thought inspirational? Great design, btw.
I didn't actually design this; I've been looking for the original to no avail :/ I just stumbled upon it.
[–]coolplate 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Here's the original.
[–]mtldude1967 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
"Matter flows from place to place, and momentarily comes together to become you." - Richard Dawkins
I find that pretty significant.
The poetry of science really is incredible.
[–]galdor557[S] 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I agree with you. We are both extremely insignificant and infinitely important and the same time.
[–]mtldude1967 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Didn't mean to disagree with your post, just offering another perspective. Glad you agree.
[–]Strudol 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
um dont mean to be a douche bag. but there are actually 200 billion stars in our galaxy. and they believe most of them have planets. just pointing that out
[–]galdor557[S] -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
Again, I didn't actually make this. lol. I wouldn't say 'most' of them have planets, though. More like half. link
ah ok, i have heard that almost all stars have planets, i was misinformed
Keep in mind that we can only detect relatively large planets at the moment; we're just recently finding extrasolar planets as small as Earth. As our methods advance, we may find planets as small as Mercury in other systems that were otherwise thought to be barren.
[–]dem_aqplez 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I tried to follow it like a path and got lost and out of sequence
[–]bitterweasel 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I really dislike this way of thinking, it depresses me. Interesting post though.
In what possible way is this depressing? Because you aren't as big in this universe as you wished you were?
Just be thankful that your particles are constructed in a way that allows you to think. That fact is fucking sweet.
[–]IllGiveYouAnUpvote 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I honestly find this quite demotivational.
[–]NorMel1 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
This makes me think of my favorite saying: Just remember that you are unique, just like everybody else.
[–]ShockedSystem 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Whelp, time to go kill myself.
[–]SuddenDeth 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Insignificant ... relevant to what?
[–]Zideburnz 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
What is this trying to prove? What does this have to do with atheism? I have NEVER understood the whole "THE UNIVERSE IS REALLY BIG, JUST THINK ABOUT THAT." argument that people like to make here.
It's just posting about space, using the word science a lot, and whoring for karma.
[–]JeremyKean 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
First, people need to shut the fuck up about karma whoring. Reddit is just another internet show-and-tell. This shit wouldn't function without a points system. People who bitch about it just seem whiny, and jealous.
I think atheists like to tout this fact because the idea of a personal god is pretty arrogant. For some, it kind of gets centered around the idea that in this vast universe, there is a magical father-figure that is wasting its time focusing on solely our affairs, and that all this is made for our amusement or something.
[–]Manickel 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I've always felt that this is a somewhat ineffective and pessimistic way to view an individual. I mean, does size, disbursement, and population really determine significance? I get that it's supposed to be humbling; we certainly aren't the center of all the goings on in the universe and we shouldn't view the world in a self-centered manner. Still, I don't think we should view ourselves or others as insignificant.
[–]I2ichmond 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
There's an important phrase in eastern philosophy: "as above, so below." The little picture is important to the big picture, so your life is very significant in a way that has nothing to do with religion.
[–]pcnerd37 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I'd almost like to show this to some people I know just to piss off the self esteem movement people.
Think of it this way. If a sailing ship is off by even the most minute amount, the consequences are exponential and the captain could end up miles away from his/her destination. Its the same way with the universe. I just hope to make that small change that just might set the course of the universe's history over the infinite years that it exists.
[–]dontgogreen 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
i get that we are just very small people in a huge universe but i dont feel that any person is insignificant
[–]AdrianBrony 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
wasn't there a version of this that was the inverse?
[–]kingseed 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Depressing but true.
Not only are you a momentary blip in the grand scheme of things but so is every human collectively.
I think this is just a tough pill to swallow for most religious people.
[–]CunningTF 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
It's not a particularly good argument against god/religion. If I was religious I could post the exact same poster, and just tag a line onto the bottom that said something like : "And only one planet has any life", and to the best of our knowledge, it would be true. Not that I don't think that there's life elsewhere in the universe, but until you prove its existence, it sits in the same state of null as God if you ask me.
[–]thehitchrestinpeace 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I thought of three while the page was loading...
[–]BetterThanOP 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
this is so relieving
[–]CaptainAsshat 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Hmmm, I think I'll eat a whole cake.
[–]FajitaofTreason 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
In case you were interested in a Higher Resolution
Edit: apparently coolplate found it before me.
[–]evilcanuck 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I liked Pluto
[–]teamgonuts 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I remember when it was 9 planets ='(
[–]ShutupBiz 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
this is why i have this tattoo
[–]Asplundh 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I'm insignificant as fuck, but I matter a lot to myself.
[–]aweeleprechan 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I like to remind my self of this with my ringtone.
[–]A_wizard_actually 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
gee thanks go ahead ruin my day!
[–]Iannic 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Ahem...nine planets...forever.
[–]identity_free 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
This is now my desktop wallpaper. Tyvm :)
[–]robson0 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Excuse me while I go hang myself.
[–]Pigtroll 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
"But I'm too pretentious to accept that the world doesn't revolve around me" -Every religion ever
[–]somebodee 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
And give them existential depression? No thanks, I'm already unable to sleep thanks to my fear of the pure size of existence
[–]thatgamerguy 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
It's shit like this, not making fun of Christians, that makes people hate Atheism. It's the fact that most people think that atheism does indeed lead one to being insignificant and worthless that makes them hate us. It's why they fear our beliefs.
But we aren't insignificant at all. Each and every one of us is significant to someone. Significance is a term created by us, and applies to things we find significant. Since each of us is found significant by someone, we're all significant :)
[–]Bahamy 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
On a side note, not sure if anyone linked this. Neil Degrasee Tyson explains how I feel about this.
[–]gaspah 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
This is dumb. because you don't mention the fact we only have EVIDENCE of life on ONE of those planets/stars etc
Significance, like many other things, is relative. I'm plenty significant to me, and those close to me.
Not only is our scale of size insignificant, our scale of time is as well. If we are extremely lucky we get MAYBE 122 orbits around the Sun out of the possible estimated 2.5 Billion or so that have happened since oxygen was first manufactured on Earth in the Proterozoic era.
It is believed that the Sun has enough fuel to burn for another 5 Billion or so life sustaining years that you could also ride around on the Earth orbiting the Sun playing Skyrim games, fapping and surfing Reddit. I believe the oldest recorded human lifespan was 122 years. So that is the most you are probably going to get and the current world average is 67.2 years.
Hello anyone in the future or in the multiverse/alternate time line/alternate dimension who is receiving this signal! Please res me after I wipe. Thank you for your time.
[–]Trugger 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
9 planets what they did to pluto is unforgivable
[–]deadcow5283 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I think significance is a relative term. An ant is relatively insignificant to us but that doesn't mean it cares how we feel about it and its role in the universe. So why should we care what the rest of the universe think of us? I'm significant to my family and friends as they are to me, and that is all that matters to me.
[–]cosmic_charlie99 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
LIES!!! ALL LIES! I refuse to accept that Pluto is no longer a planet!!! there are 9 Planets.
[–]Ceigee 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
I Do believe there's another part to this. I recall seeing this image a while back. I will try to paraphrase as much as I can.
What you got is the first part which is supposed to be what you are to god.
To science, out of one hundred billion galaxies, out of one hundred billion star systems, inside a planet among eight others, with 7 billion people, you have a unique genetic make up. To science, you are enormously significant.
[–]bhig3 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Insignificant to whom?
[–]TrimHopp -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
8 planets? Really?
Le sigh.
[–]FriendlyCommie -1 points0 points1 point 5 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT_dqETarHQ that is my response
[–]FahmuhA -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 months ago
So murder's no big deal, then?
[–]thatpeterguy 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Only to those who think their existence is any more significant than another's.
Or to someone whose brain is fucked up.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
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