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[–]bholzer 107 points108 points ago

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This meme has never been used more correctly

[–]gingerlemon 77 points78 points ago

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Unexpected item in bagging area.

[–]Jetblast787 32 points33 points ago

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...please remove item before continuing

[–]SweetMojaveRain 12 points13 points ago

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Do Not Bag

not a single item bagged that day

[–]caturday21 10 points11 points ago

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More like "Unexpected item in bagging area. Are you using your own bag?" Yes. "UNEXPECTED ITEM IN BAGGING AREA. PLEASE SEEK ASSISTANCE"

[–]10seiga 5 points6 points ago

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...Item removed from bagging area, please return item.

[–]WillMcB 5 points6 points ago

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"Oh alright I'll just remove that" "AN ATTENDANT HAS BEEN NOTIFIED TO ASSIST YOU"

[–]NanoGeek 7 points8 points ago

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We have to have an associate come over and put in a password because you don't want to bag the item you just scanned. Even though you just paid for it we don't trust you. Please wait here like an idiot. And have a nice day.

[–]Skelletonhand 1 point2 points ago

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This happened to me at Wal-Mart and I had selected Spanish as the language. Poor kid.

[–]CantWearHats 4 points5 points ago

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[–]original-finder 52 points53 points ago

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[–]hitsonbots 21 points22 points ago

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Well hello.

[–]live_wire_ 1 point2 points ago

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No way you didn't know this wa...

Oh.

[–]Tossedinthebin 2 points3 points ago

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The original got a better laugh from me.

[–]MakesItAboutNam 138 points139 points ago

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Honestly, the self checkout machines aren't that bad. They can be somewhat finnicky, but it still ends up being much faster than waiting in line behind the mouthbreathers. But I won't lie, "Shut up and take my money" is precisely the line that goes through my head when the machine is giving me a hard time, and as you can imagine I have a pretty active inner monologue, which vacillates between pop culture references and deep reflection about how I can learn from the sacrifices of others. Nearly 60,000 men gave their lives in the primes of their youths in the 1960s, and it is important to reflect on what that collective selflessness in and of itself can teach us. To me, that is far more important than the political motivations of that war, the novel military strategies that the terrain required, or the fact that it was one of the first wars broadcast into the living rooms of regular Americans on a daily basis, giving everyone an idea, and believe me video does not truly capture the full experience, of what was going on in Southeast Asia.

[–]gogs_101 30 points31 points ago

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I was wondering what the fuck you were chatting for a long time...

then I saw your user. Well player, sir.

[–]fj785 9 points10 points ago

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This isn't 'Nam, Donny. There are rules.

[–]unladenswallow 6 points7 points ago

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he was speaking to smokey, not donny

it was when he was OVER THE LINE and refused to MARK IT ZERO GODDAMMIT

[–]unladenswallow 4 points5 points ago

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Walter, I really don't see the connection to Vietnam.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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They're also usually express lanes as well, so you have the added benefit of more express lanes open without taking away from the regular lanes.

[–]Finstyle 0 points1 point ago

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No tl;dr? Still upvoted !

[–]Kratzyyy 0 points1 point ago

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Most people just don't understand that it's all by weight. If you scan something, you need to put it in the bagging area so the machine can keep track of what's there. If the bagging area is over weight you could be stealing, if it's underweight you could pad it out with something else and still steal something.

Scan -> place in bag. Easy. Only hassle is when you're buying beer and you need to call the assistant over to check your ID.

[–]ANewAccountCreated 2 points3 points ago

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That's all really nice. None of the machines I've encountered work properly at all. I know what it's looking for and what I'm supposed to do. The fucking thing fails.

[–]daveoodoes -3 points-2 points ago

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Wrong. I worked these fuckers and that is NOT all that goes wrong.

[–]pterodactyl_lelly 0 points1 point ago

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I have worked them as well, and I agree with you and OP. They are finicky and incredibly sensitive which causes them to constantly trigger a security alert for the cashier. However, I must say people are fucking idiots. If there is one thing I've learned about humanity from working customer service is that people are lazy, impatient, and refuse to pay attention. The instructions are clearly explained ( at least in my experience). People will move bags from the weight table. They'll stand there and stare at you and huff and puff almost to the point of a temper tantrum because they can't figure out why it won't continue with their transaction, when the whole time the touch screen is flashing the solution at them the entire time in large print. Hell, the damn thing even talks to you. So yes, the machines are touchy, but 80% of the time the problem is user error and easily fixed if they would just pay attention and read what is in front of them. Customers are idiots and/or lazy impatient people.

[–]Kratzyyy -1 points0 points ago

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Not all that goes wrong no, but you can't deny if customers just did as they're meant to things would go a whole lot smoother.

[–]daveoodoes -1 points0 points ago

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Responding to and using these, the machines glitch out and give errors on their own. A majority of the transactions screw up because of this. The minority is customer related.

[–]sntruong 11 points12 points ago

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"Please place the item in the bagging area" Okay. "Please place the item in the bagging area" .... "Please place item in the bagging area"

[–]jrhoffa 2 points3 points ago

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And you've got nine more identical packets of Kool-Aid

fuck

[–]NinjaDog251 0 points1 point ago

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that's when you ask the cashier to do it. When I see someone with koolaid, i offer to scan them all so they can pass that.

[–]aquanautic 0 points1 point ago

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There needs to be a "I'm not bagging a single goddamn item" button.

[–]jugglist 0 points1 point ago

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The way to solve this is to give the bagging area a good solid shove down whenever you place an item that's not very heavy.

That makes it re-measure the weight and move on.

[–]runonandonandonanon 4 points5 points ago

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THERE ARE TOO MANY ITEMS ON THE BELT. PLEASE BAG SOME ITEMS BEFORE CONTINUING TO SCAN.

IF YOU ARE FINISHED SCANNING, PLEASE SELECT "FINISH & PAY."

IF YOU ARE FINISHED SCANNING, PLEASE SELECT "FINISH & PAY."

IF YOU ARE FINISHED SCANNING, PLEASE SELECT "FINISH & PAY."

IF YOU ARE FINISHED SCANNING, PLEASE SELECT "FINISH & PAY."

[–]NinjaDog251 0 points1 point ago

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STOP TOUCHING IT! I FIXED IT FOR YOU! YOU MESSED IT UP NOW I HAVE TO FIX IT AGAIN!!!

[–]meatwad75892 4 points5 points ago

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I hate how people that self-checkouts are meant to weed out are still allowed to use them. I can check myself out in Kroger in about 30 seconds or less with a small load and an open kiosk. But when I have to wait behind a bunch of 60 year olds buying 50+ items, paying with cash(usually lots of ones), and can't understand the concept of scanning a fucking barcode, the purpose is kinda defeated.

[–]jrhoffa 1 point2 points ago

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Or some cheapskate who wants to buy only one grape

[–]WedgeTalon 1 point2 points ago

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Or paying by check.

Also I find the lag between item-placed-in-bag and ready-to-scan-next-item annoyingly long. I swear just that at least doubles the time it takes me to selfcheck.

[–]Uberhatkat 3 points4 points ago

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[–]Neogodfather 0 points1 point ago

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METH!

[–]Uberhatkat 1 point2 points ago

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Do you have any meth?

[–]-SubZer000z 12 points13 points ago

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DAE think that the customer should get a discount for checking out their own items? Or how about they pay me for doing it?

[–]3rdParty2012 13 points14 points ago

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Three pounds of steak... I mean bananas.

[–]IamRigel 6 points7 points ago

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Dried blueberries or cranberries are so much less expensive if they're rung up as raisins

[–]gigitrix 0 points1 point ago

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Nah, it's good for the both of us. We still have the choice.

[–]Kratzyyy 0 points1 point ago

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No, the entire point of self service is to pay and get out quickly. If you're willing to put in some extra effort to scan and bag your own items it's a good trade off.

Otherwise, just go to a regular till. No ones forcing to to use self service.

[–]DoctorWedgeworth 4 points5 points ago

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No, the entire point of self service is to pay and get out quickly.

Especially as more and more staff are taken off checkouts and tills are getting slower to be opened.

No ones forcing to to use self service.

Yet. At least not before 10pm. Or after 9am.

[–]Ahesterd 1 point2 points ago

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Some drug stores near me are actually all-self checkout for standard items. The CVS down the road still has the photo counter, but that's the only manned register.

[–]-SubZer000z 1 point2 points ago

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Might as well serve myself at the restaurant and collect my own tip too right?

[–]jrhoffa 1 point2 points ago

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That is a brilliant idea! We should go into business together and open a chain of restaurants based on this premise

We should make it fancy, too, give it some French name

"Buffet"

[–]foot56 2 points3 points ago

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I think self checkout was invented by a guy who had to buy tampons.

[–]jrhoffa 0 points1 point ago

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And was mature enough to not feel the need to brag about gettin' some

[–]drunk2407 1 point2 points ago

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I cheat on self checkout machines, when I weight fruit, I always hold it up a bit with my arm.

[–]saywhatisobvious 1 point2 points ago

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i don't always use self checkout

but when i do i buy condoms

[–]lovelythistimeofyear 1 point2 points ago

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As a grocery store employee, I can confirm.

[–]Kozel_ 1 point2 points ago

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We dont have those in Finland.

[–]jrhoffa 1 point2 points ago

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Go back where you came from. This site is for AMURRIKANS.

[–]social_drinker 0 points1 point ago

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UK has them.

[–]jrhoffa 1 point2 points ago

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That's in Kentucky, right

[–]crackyJsquirrel 1 point2 points ago

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There needs to be a limit of 10 items or less in the self checkout. They are supposed to be for speed and convenience. People who roll up with like two carts of shit are assholes. They have a pyramid of shit just piling up in the bag area. It is not like they have no right to use it, because they do. It's the fact that nobody is bagging their crap while it is being rung up, so it takes twice as long for these people to get through it.

/rant

[–]blackstarx 1 point2 points ago

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Working as a repair tech on self-check out units, I've seen plenty that just gobble up change and no one says anything. There's like $20 worth of change inside the damn thing haha

[–]sgt_salt 7 points8 points ago

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More like "Shut up and take somebody's job!" AMIRITE?

[–]Topsiders 7 points8 points ago

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I get what you're doing salt. I apologize for Reddit's collective lack of humor.

[–]sgt_salt 3 points4 points ago

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I just find it interesting that this is the exact thing people complain about constantly. "There's no jobs anymore. Back in the day, you could walk in to such and such, and start working there an hour later." Yet people are willingly and happily using these machines to save several minutes. If you're shopping enough, that those minutes are adding up to something significant, then you are shopping too much. I understand that these aren't glorious jobs, but they may be the difference between making rent or not to a lot of people. Ask an 80 year old man what he thinks about assembly line robots.

[–]peppermintbutler 2 points3 points ago

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pointless jobs aren't useful. If I can do it faster myself and it isn't a dangerous activity there should be no reason for doing so. Imagine if you used this analogy to stop people from fixing their own cars or from doing their own yard work. Cashiering is the same IMO. Human cashiers are there for the people who choose not to use machines but those who do aren't killing jobs.

[–]sgt_salt 0 points1 point ago

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How is it not killing jobs? There are less jobs because of them. It's a little hyperbolic to compare it to not going to a mechanic and paying someone 60-175 dollars an hour because you have the knowledge and skill to fix your own car. Not to mention the fact, that you then have to many times, make an appointment, drop the vehicle off, and go back and pick it up several hours later. Typically what happens with technology, is that it is slowly introduced. People are still given the choice to do things the old way. That choice is then either taken away, or not partaking in the new way of doing things, will socially cripple you. What will most likely happen in this case is that eventually there will be no human cashiers. There will be one person per six machines.

[–]peppermintbutler 0 points1 point ago

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A cashier isn't really an important job in society. For things to move forward people will have to accept that some low-wage jobs have a chance of being replaced by a machine. It is an inevitability of living in the 21st century. There should be programs to help find people jobs who are being replaced, but arguing against advancements because it is killing jobs is a backwards way of looking at things. People are going to have to be trained to do other jobs. This training could be funded by taxing stores that put in machines and would ensure a balanced adoption rate instead off mass layoffs of unskilled workforce all at once.

[–]sgt_salt 0 points1 point ago

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The problem is, there aren't other jobs opening up for unskilled/entry level employees because of this. There is no taxation of these stores, and there never will be. Otherwise, they would just keep the employees and get a tax write-off instead of getting rid of them and paying taxes. It's not just the people currently employed at these stores that are losing out, it's every future generation. These are some of the most flexible jobs for college, high school kids, single parents etc. When all of the entry level jobs are gone, it's just going to result in more people taking on more debt, so they can go to post secondary schools. They will be more in debt when they finish, and there will be less and less jobs available for them, because more and more people will be going through these programs. It's already not really an option to be able to support a family with a high school education any more unless you get a foot in the door at an entry level position and work your way up, or if you're extremely lucky/have the right connections. I'm not saying people having a post secondary education is a bad thing, but in a lot of ways, the reason that it is beneficial is because not everyone has one.

[–]elite1247 2 points3 points ago

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totally agree i tell everyone i know not to use these things, people that do will be the same one's complaining when all there is is self check out, just like everyone has to pump their own gas now.

[–]Chaytup 2 points3 points ago

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Hardly. You still need people to man the self-checkouts, and they definitely aren't a full replacement of cashiers. Just a convenience to customers. Maybe a very small amount of cashiers have lost jobs due to them, but not enough to call them job stealers.

[–]sgt_salt 1 point2 points ago

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I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote on another comment. One person watches six registers or more, so there are far less cashiers working. Plus this technology is still somewhat new, and a lot of people don't like these machines. As time goes on, there will be no cashiers at all. Just a couple of people watching all of the machines.

[–]NinjaDog251 0 points1 point ago

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so we could take out the 6 registers and replace them with 1 register? that makes sense... The number of workers won't change.

[–]Chaytup -2 points-1 points ago

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Well I guess we'll all get jobs making and maintaining self-checkout machines, huh.

[–]sgt_salt 0 points1 point ago

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There certainly won't be as many jobs in that area. Making the machines will at some point, if not already be mostly automated, and maintaining the machines will have nowhere near a 1:1 ratio.

[–]Kratzyyy 0 points1 point ago

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In the supermarket I worked at there's one person managing 6 self service checkouts, and they removed 2 regular tills to fit them.

You're right though, no one usually loses their job. The person on the self service tills can only be there for a certain amount of time (where I worked anyway) because they're constantly on their feet.

[–]gigitrix 0 points1 point ago

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Progress is inevitable. Change causes friction. Sucks, but you can't ignore changes in society just because people are losing jobs...

[–]brendyballs 1 point2 points ago

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I was once stuck behind an old lady in the queue of a self checkout for about 15 minutes..

She was trying to scan a loose banana..

I would have been frustrated had it not been extremely amusing.

[–]indefort 4 points5 points ago

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God forbid you help the old lady.

[–]brendyballs 4 points5 points ago

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She wasn't "infirm" old. I see your point and I raise you this picture:

[–]Tabesh 0 points1 point ago

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God forbid people be required to understand technology from the 70s to check out without the professional technical assistance of a grocery store employee.

[–]itchyburn 1 point2 points ago

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Fuck you for using cash at the self-check out.

[–]leevs 0 points1 point ago

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Brilliant.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Please remove all items from the scanner. Please place the item in the bag. Please remove all items from the scanner. One moment please...

And then it freezes.

[–]jrhoffa 0 points1 point ago

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Application crashes, it's the Windows XP wallpaper

[–]Lemon_Tile 0 points1 point ago

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[–]H483R 0 points1 point ago

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I used to love the self-checkout machines. I could checkout fast because most people seemed to not know how to work them or were too lazy. Maybe that's why I haven't seen a single one in at least two years here in Tampa.

[–]thetraffic 0 points1 point ago

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signing X doesnt work either i have tried why do those things need our signature?

[–]doesnotlikememes 0 points1 point ago

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SHUTUP

[–]xqx2100 0 points1 point ago

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Haha, best use of that phrase.

[–]Isatis_tinctoria 0 points1 point ago

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What is real?

[–]gbear84 0 points1 point ago

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best meme ever

[–]the_killer_chair 0 points1 point ago

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Put bag of chips in the bag...

"Please place the item in the bag."

[–]Spring_Break -1 points0 points ago

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NO. I personally refuse to use these things and I think everyone else should stop using them as well. The car industry as well as most factories have conveniently replaced the middle class workforce with machines. Now these self checkouts are removing the cashier from the work place and putting hundreds of thousands of jobs as stake. The people of this world need jobs, not convenience.

[–]SammyLocked 4 points5 points ago

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My response to anyone giving this argument: "Well someone has to watch them."

[–]sgt_salt 3 points4 points ago

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One person watches six registers or more, so there are far less cashiers working. Plus this technology is still somewhat new, and and a lot of people don't like these machines. As time goes on, there will be no cashiers at all. Just a couple of people watching all of the machines. And it's not like the saved money is going into making the merchandise more affordable.

[–]huntedhobbit 0 points1 point ago

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Those six registers will probably only take up the place of two or three manned ones. From what I've seen the manned ones are very rarely all manned except at the busiest times (and then staff are generally taken from other duties around the store to man them). The loss in jobs is probably not as large as it initially appears to be.

[–]sgt_salt 0 points1 point ago

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emptying out two or three manned positions, doesn't just eliminate 2 or 3 jobs though. a lot of these places are now open 24 hours a day, that could take anywhere from 3-5 shifts to cover. 6 - 15 people at one store, IF they were working 7 days a week. which they are not. And it is not just 6-15 people one time, because these are permanent job closures in a high turnover industry. It's also not just one store. It's pretty much ever major grocery store, and every Wal-Mart in the country.

[–]SammyLocked 0 points1 point ago

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Not at my store. Just 4. And they are mostly there for convenience since a lot of people don't want to wait for long periods of time (especially with the emergence of couponing lately.) They really are helpful in stores, regardless of the small amount of people that refuse to use them.

[–]sgt_salt 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not saying that they aren't convenient. I'm saying that we are choosing convenience over jobs. Of course it makes sense to the business. You certainly can not blame a company for cutting cost wherever possible and staying competitive by offering what is convenient for the customer. It is us, as the consumer, that needs to make the choice to use or not use the self checkout lines. We realistically couldn't do anything about all of the jobs lost in, say automobile factories, but we can make a decision to use these machines or not.

[–]thom612 -2 points-1 points ago

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And it's not like the saved money is going into making the merchandise more affordable.

Good point. Notice how much gas prices went up after most stations switched from full to self service?

Obviously, paying people to do unnecessary work is what makes goods affordable and keeps our economy strong.

[–]sgt_salt 1 point2 points ago

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Clearly cutting more jobs, especially ones that can be done by unskilled laborers, and raising unemployment numbers is the best solution for the economy. It's not like those people pay taxes and don't have to rely on social assistance cheques.

[–]thom612 0 points1 point ago

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No. It is not good for the economy to make people do useless work. It is wasteful. It is a good thing to empathize with people whose skills have been rendered useless by technology and innovation, but it does nobody any favors to keep wasting their time or energy by forcing them to perform that useless work.

If the cost of having somebody do their job exceeds the value that comes from the work they do, then they shouldn't be doing it. If you want people to be net positive taxpayers then they have to do work that creates economic value.

A good economy doesn't come from "jobs", it comes from the creation of value. It is much more sensible for a person to collect welfare training for productive work than to waste away doing "work" that doesn't need to be done, and therefore creates negative value. It may even make sense for a person to just collect welfare and do nothing.

If you need to make this point clear to yourself, just envision a future world in which absolutely all work is performed by robots, including building and fixing robots. That economy would be just fine, even though not a single person would have a job.

[–]Spring_Break 0 points1 point ago

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So then the point of the self checkout would be to eliminate person to person interaction. I personally find this gross and an embarrassment

[–]SammyLocked 0 points1 point ago

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If you lived in the deep south area that I lived in, you'd find this a blessing in disguise. Lol

[–]kingwolfos 0 points1 point ago*

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Where jobs are lost in grocery stores they are gained in the manufacture and maintenance of the machines. Think of all the people that benefit from the design, production and sale of these machines. Someone has to mine the materials used to make these machines. Someone has to design them. Someone has to market them. Someone has to put them together. Someone has to fix them when they break down.

It's really easy to complain that one group of people are losing work, but what about the other group of people who are getting work? Or do they not matter because their work is behind the scenes where you can't see it?

[–]Spring_Break 0 points1 point ago

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aka you are just proving my point. Maintenance aside (which is far less hours per week than a cashier), production + sales only puts money in few hands. And for design, if you have ever sold intellectual property, you should also know money crosses few hands and always ends in the hands of few

[–]kingwolfos 0 points1 point ago

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Sure, you're right. It's a not a 1:1 trade. But if you're working at a company that produces checkout machines, and America goes on this massive boycott of the machines and you get laid off, it doesn't really matter to you whether it's a 1:1 trade. You're not a bad person for building machines that are replacing cashiers, you needed the money to feed your family. The same goes for the cashiers. You need a job. The production worker's needs aren't your concern, you need money to live. Are either of these people less important than the other?

Things change. Sometimes the changes are harsh, but over time society adapts. Yes, cashier jobs may be lost, but those cashiers will move into other things over time. Will it be easy for them? Probably not. But it's never been easy for the working class, and it never will be. A farm that used to need 50 people to operate now needs 5. Where did all those farmhands go? What about milkmen? Elevator operators? Street car drivers? Telegraph operators? We should have 50% unemployment because all those jobs disappeared and were never replaced, right? But that's not the case. Those jobs returned in other forms in other industries.

This idea of refusing to change is only going to hinder those cashiers in the end. The change cannot be stopped. Businesses will take the path that makes them the most money and that's that. The only thing you can do for the cashiers is help them realize that their trade is dying so they can begin taking steps to move into other things while they still can. I'm really sorry, but you refusing to use checkout machines isn't going to help them. If you really want to make a difference, encourage people you know who work as checkout clerks to start thinking of some other things they might want to do.

[–]theGaffe 0 points1 point ago

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A business saving money by hiring less employees? Madness!

[–]Spring_Break 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, "by hiring less employees"....if you were unaware, jobs are not exactly in spades at the moment.

[–]sqpantz 0 points1 point ago

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I get that using these things may take away potential jobs and would consider opting instead for the express lane if the damn things were actually quick. 15 items or less? Please, 15 items is pretty much a full cart. Then there's the people who wait for the checker to tell them how much the total is before they even start to reach for their wallet. Next you have the ones who look at the payment card reader like it's some newfangled contraption. Obviously my patience is non-existent, and rather than have a conniption fit every time I go to the grocery store to pick up a couple of items, I choose to breeze through the self check-out and save myself the grief. At least that way any irritation I experience is likely self induced.

[–]Spring_Break 0 points1 point ago

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Well obviously you have never been a cashier or worked behind a register (if you have then I'm surprised by your indifference). And although I understand the disdain for "slow" or poor service, human to human interaction in business transactions should be held over the anonymity of cold capitalism. I don't want to live in a world where people are unnecessary in the exchange of capital--because without people what is the point of business?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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Yeah, but for people doing well with their money need convenience, not jobs.

[–]Spring_Break 0 points1 point ago

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but at whose expense?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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The poor people, duh.

[–]bruin11awp 0 points1 point ago

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How is scanning your own stuff more convenient? The actual action of scanning your own stuff is going to take longer, and the cashiers mess up the process less. The only way you'd be saving any time is if the line for the cashier was long, and even if it's the case you save like 5 minutes.

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[–]runonandonandonanon 0 points1 point ago

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I don't understand why you put that backwards. Is this a clever trick to fool passing downvoters?

[–]SirLawrenceSummers -3 points-2 points ago

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Time does not permit me to tell of the myriad ways what you just typed is wrong so ill just reply, "gaaaaaaaay!". Your understanding of "jobs" is archaic and perhaps even harmful. Please phase your type out so we can advance as a species.

[–]Spring_Break 0 points1 point ago

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myriad is a big word for someone who resorts to "gaaaaay" as some sort of insult. If you support the social darwinism of the unskilled laborer, I assume you are fortunate enough to never have to be one. I hope you wont find yourself in a situation where you have to resort to the unskilled, and find that there are no jobs to support your well being.

[–]SirLawrenceSummers 0 points1 point ago

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How the hell do you assume to know a person occupational skill level by a single word? Let me take a shot at this. You seem like a pretentious prick. Hey that was fun and easy and doesn't matter if im accurate.
Who the hell wants to be a cashier? Hey lets get rid of self-service pumps! Thatll employ thousands in a stable career. Why should freight be carried from Chicago to New York by railroad when we could employ enormously more men, for example, to carry it all on their backs?

". . .it may seem [that] labor has suffered a net loss of employment [from automation], while it is only the manufacturer, the capitalist, who has gained. But it is precisely out of these extra profits that the subsequent social gains must come. The manufacturer must use these extra profits in at least one of three ways, and possibly he will use part of them in all three: (1) he will use the extra profits to expand his operations by buying more machines to make more coats; or (2) he will invest the extra profits in some other industry; or (3) he will spend the extra profits on increasing his own consumption. Whichever of these three courses he takes, he will increase employment."

The truth is your vision is limited and again please do humanity a favor and just phase yourself out. Take your tired ideas and your near-sighted vision and just fade away... you know, like the dodo.

[–]PuG_LiFe 0 points1 point ago

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"Have you scanned your Club card?"

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DEMACIA

[–]Alterstatedego -4 points-3 points ago

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[–]Pretty_Boy_Floyd -1 points0 points ago

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I consider it robbery by the establishment to not give me a discount for doing their cashiers job and then on top of that they want to charge me for the lousy plastic bags...so i just declare no bags when prompted then proceed to bag my groceries and gloriously skate outta the store. FUCK YUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

[–]justafurry 1 point2 points ago

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What the hell? I've never heard of the bags thing before. And now I can't decide between "what a scumbag store, charging for bags!" or "what a good store, charging for bags to discourage waste!"

[–]shananagoats 2 points3 points ago

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It's about 2 cents a bag.

[–]_qtwerp_ 1 point2 points ago

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Enough to piss people off. Not enough to change behavior.

[–]Pretty_Boy_Floyd 2 points3 points ago

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I live in Canada and Loblaws/SuperStore, Safeway and Co-op do this. Fuck them, if I ever get questioned regarding my illegal activity i'll simply drop the groceries off at the counter for my refund. I cannot be charged with theft of the bags because I've not left the store with them at this point. I'm all for discouraging waste but these greedy bastards take it too far by as I said not giving me a discount for doing their cashiers job.

[–]idonotcollectstamps -1 points0 points ago

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Wait so let me get this straight. I am doing the job of the cashier AND I am also doing the job of the grocery bagger. BUT I am not getting paid any money to do this NOR am I getting any discount on my order?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!

[–]aitiafo -1 points0 points ago

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I used to work for a grocery store. Trust me, it's probably your fault.

I swear, only the dumbest customers in the store decide to go through self checkout. It's not that hard.

[–]gmangw 2 points3 points ago

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It is that hard when the scale won't acknowledge my goddamn chapstick and if I choose to skip bagging it won't let me finish until the attendant approves my decision to give them money.

[–]syriquez 1 point2 points ago

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It's not that it's hard or difficult to use the machines, it's that the machines have like 3-4 prompts to go through before you can do anything.

  • English.
  • Begin.
  • No, I don't have a Pump Perks/Customer Rewards/Whatever card.
  • No, I don't have whatever other card you want me to have.
  • Begin Scanning.
  • a) Produce/Bakery
  • a) i) Enter ID #
  • a) ii) If applicable, weigh, otherwise enter number of items
  • a) iii) Item Complete
  • a) iv) Repeat if necessary.
  • Finish Scanning.
  • Do you have Coupons?
  • a) If yes, scan coupons now.
  • a) Coupons Complete.
  • Select Payment Method.
  • (Use payment pad if using a debit/credit card. If you're some kind of fucking idiot that went to one of these aisles with WIC or food stamps, may your choice of deity have mercy on your soul.)
  • Do you want a receipt? (Not all machines have this it seems.)
  • Finish Payment.

Why yes, I do use self checkout quite often.

Edit I'd like to believe there is a better way to use nested bullet points but I'll be damned if the formatting help shows it.

[–]WedgeTalon 0 points1 point ago

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Most that I have used will skip straight to scanning if you just scan your first item.

[–]syriquez 0 points1 point ago

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Not at my local market. You are required to go through the first 4 prompts or it will not scan.

[–]WedgeTalon 0 points1 point ago

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Ugh, I hate forced tedium like that. :-(

[–]sh0rtgeek 2 points3 points ago

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It's not that they're hard, it's that they've been dumbed down so much for the idiot customers that they won't shut the Fuck up! Even when someone's using it correctly.

[–]bowlforthedude -2 points-1 points ago

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More like thank you for allowing me to buy things my age doesnt legally allow me to buy

[–]meatwad75892 4 points5 points ago

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I've never come across one that doesn't have a rep checking ID's. Pretty sure a store that didn't would get nailed hard with fines.

[–]bowlforthedude -1 points0 points ago

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its happened successfully at home depot multiple times

[–]meatwad75892 0 points1 point ago

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Buying chemicals, air duster, fertilizer? I can see that working. But on the other hand, you could do more damage by igniting gas, but pumps don't check ID's.

US law is goofy.

[–]bowlforthedude -1 points0 points ago

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butane and torches

[–]syriquez -1 points0 points ago

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Yeah, no.

One, the machine is going to force an ID check. Hell, many store self-checkout lanes outright do not permit restricted materials to be purchased at them.

Two, if the lanes do permit you to purchase restricted materials, there is an employee stationed at the lanes for this reason (among others).


I mean, for fuck's sake, if you're going to lie about it, describe the actual method of doing it: use a lane with what looks like an uninterested or lazy clerk. The self-checkout lanes are going to be the absolute worst path to use because the computer doesn't get tired or lazy, it just follows the rules and orders programmed into it.

[–]I_Answer_With_Memes -3 points-2 points ago

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[Insert random joke about dessert and being raped]