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[–]Hypersapien 5 points6 points ago

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Even hypothesis is way too generous.

[–]moves_like_jager 1 point2 points ago

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Agreed, so would we go with idea?

[–]MasterofStickpplz 2 points3 points ago

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yea.. considering a hypothesis is an educated guess..

[–]moves_like_jager 0 points1 point ago

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precisely

[–]dos_user 4 points5 points ago

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There needs to be some kind of movement to educate people on the difference between a hypothesis and a theory, because clearly the schools have failed us.

[–]icameliac[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I agree. I know that sometimes the word theory is used to mean something else like when you're not speaking of anything scientific (example: In theory, Amanda usually blah blah blah) so it can be easy for some people to use it incorrectly. But when speaking of something scientific/official/important/etc I think it is important to make the distinction and use theory and hypothesis in the more correct way. Did all that make sense?

[–]Falkner09 4 points5 points ago

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....I'm kind of wondering why there's a stick of dynamite in the water. down at the bottom.

[–]flanl 1 point2 points ago

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to kill the megalodons & sarcosuchuses... sarcosuchii? fuck it.

[–]TrustiestMuffin 1 point2 points ago

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Trouble with latin? Brian feels your pain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

(Fun fact: John Cleese studied Latin, so he knows what he's talking about)

[–]KrimTheRed 0 points1 point ago

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I wondered that same thing.

[–]Falkner09 0 points1 point ago

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Ah, nevermind. i found another comic with that in it, apparently this artist puts those in almost all his comics as easter eggs. Slices of pie sometimes, too.

[–]regen_geneticist 2 points3 points ago

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As a practicing scientist, I have to point out that there is a lower level than hypothesis that many non-science people wrongly claim to be an actual hypothesis. This concept is called an 'idea' (there may be a philosophical term that may accurately describe this better, but I will use the term 'idea' for simplicity's sake). A hypothesis is an idea that developed to the point that allows a scientist to test this idea with the theoretical framework of the scientific discipline he/she is practicing in. A simple idea is just something someone thought-up, and is not yet testable because an experiment or derivation (if you are a theorist) has not been devised to test it. Or in many cases, it never makes it to that point. It just kind of stays an idea and never matures.

Or in the case of Creationism, it is just a shitty idea that refuses to die. It cannot be tested, so a viable hypothesis can never be developed. It is intellectual junk.

[–]Slotos 0 points1 point ago

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As an occasional user of several languages I should remind you that your implications are not shared by everyone.

Scientific hypothesis is a hypothesis that can be tested. Your pursuits imply "scientific" but that is not a commonly accepted implication. However the moment someone starts using non-scientific definitions when talking about science and testable knowledge I'm all for correcting the culprit. Context matters.

Idea is a broader term for ideas are not limited to explanation of phenomena.

[–]regen_geneticist 0 points1 point ago

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What other context ever uses 'hypothesis' other than science (or things claiming to be science)? There is no 'commonly accepted implication' of hypothesis outside of science that I am aware of, so I do not see the relevance of the context specificity. The whole point of pointing out the 'just a theory' concept among common people is that the common perception is flat-out wrong. I also want to point out even among some/r/atheism users, for example, there is a knee-jerk reaction to calling theories hypotheses without a second thought, even if the theory is indeed a theory. Or in this case, this theory hypothesis is not really a hypothesis. It is just a stupid idea. Finally, calling Creationism a hypothesis is an insult to science and scientists alike.

[–]Slotos -1 points0 points ago

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It won't hurt to look up the history of those two words. They are quite older than scientific method. Science uses these terms, but you do not posses a sole right to define a word.

"Theory" and "hypothesis" are the words that have their use in different languages in contexts unrelated to science. Deal with it like an adult.

[–]Blue_Shift 3 points4 points ago

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One more theory hypothesis myth.

[–]Supermoves3000 1 point2 points ago

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Is that a hypodermic needle and a piece of pie floating in the water??

[–]tomswartz07 2 points3 points ago

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THANK YOU

[–]icameliac[S] 0 points1 point ago

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You're welcome lol.

[–]comfort412eagle 0 points1 point ago

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Seems legit.

[–]guy_lovejoy 0 points1 point ago

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This = idea idea made into a form that is easily scientifically testable = hypothesis a hypothesis that has passed so many tests its as close as we have to fact = theory

If we stick to scientific definitions of these words (mine might be slightly off) in normal usage, then we might be able to reduce this issue where everyone misuses the terms.

[–]THES8N 0 points1 point ago

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Aha, Thank you good sir

[–]thetheist 0 points1 point ago

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I realize that this doesn't go over very well in /r/atheism, but "theory" doesn't only mean what you think it means. Words are defined by their usage, not by their dictionary definitions.

People today use "theory" to mean "idea". I'm sorry, but they're right by default. On the upside, language continues to evolve. Feel free to use one of their words inappropriately, and see if it catches on. How about "pray" means "masturbate"?

[–]Slotos 1 point2 points ago

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Santorum?

By the way, brace for impact. People do not like being reminded of fuzziness of everyday language.